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Quote from: Hispo on October 27, 2023, 12:40:27 PM

Quote from: xSkylarx on October 27, 2023, 08:03:40 AM

Quote from: Hispo on October 26, 2023, 07:27:32 PM

Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

To be honest, I do not think I could spot the difference, though I would try to find over-exaggerated reactions to losses and unnatural underwhelming reactions to wins. But a good actor could always fool someone like me, who is not used to watching streamers for hours and hours in a row.

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

. They were laughing but you could recognize that it was scripted but I am not saying all but there are this kind of streamers.

I think that is one of the easiest ways to identify whether someone is showing genuine feelings of happiness or are faking all of it, through their laugher or their grim/smile.
Faking joy and happiness can be difficult for the average person, so one could tell whether some streamer is actually betting/gambling when they react to wins.
Once I was taught that someone who is laughing authentically will have their eyes stretched (a tendency to getting then close), if someone fakes a smile and does not do so, then it is very likely to be gambling monopoly money for the sake of advertisements, etc.

Though, I would not be willing to bet my own money on trying to identify fake streamers among authentic ones.

Well, it's true, a lot of streamers - *won 40k* and their reaction: "hmmm ok" (when bankroll is 200k). But when you look at the best streamers (Rosh, for example) – they show emotions, they entertain because they know for they get paid for.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on October 27, 2023, 08:03:40 AM

Quote from: Hispo on October 26, 2023, 07:27:32 PM

Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

To be honest, I do not think I could spot the difference, though I would try to find over-exaggerated reactions to losses and unnatural underwhelming reactions to wins. But a good actor could always fool someone like me, who is not used to watching streamers for hours and hours in a row.

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

. They were laughing but you could recognize that it was scripted but I am not saying all but there are this kind of streamers.

I think that is one of the easiest ways to identify whether someone is showing genuine feelings of happiness or are faking all of it, through their laugher or their grim/smile.
Faking joy and happiness can be difficult for the average person, so one could tell whether some streamer is actually betting/gambling when they react to wins.
Once I was taught that someone who is laughing authentically will have their eyes stretched (a tendency to getting then close), if someone fakes a smile and does not do so, then it is very likely to be gambling monopoly money for the sake of advertisements, etc.

Though, I would not be willing to bet my own money on trying to identify fake streamers among authentic ones.

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Quote from: Shamm on October 27, 2023, 01:02:10 AM

But we must remember that not all streamers are real some of them are fake, they gamble because the online casino paid them and that money they use to gamble is not from then cause it's sponsored by the owner of the sites.

If you can't differentiate the real from the fake, it's safer if you consider it all bullshit, marketing, and casino hype. I know for a fact that casinos will pay people to create nonsense content for them. A guy I know got paid to create reviews for an online casino, and they deposited money into his casino account. His task was to play a certain game, write about his experience and post screenshots when he won. The idea is to show the world how easy it is to win.

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Quote from: Oilacris on October 25, 2023, 03:45:02 PM

With having those kind of normal approach which had been applied with some common sense then you would really be mainly thinking that these streamers are really just that working for money or something that make them money and dealing up with gambling is really that totally opposing on what they are trying to do. Its true that once they do make out those thousand base bet on their wager then it would really be just that easy to assume out that they are whether have funded or those balances are really just that not a real money. THere's no way on telling it out not unless if they do make out that on point withdrawal but well it isnt really still a solid proof that they are really earning that money.

This is why it would really be ideal that you should really not make yourself that getting involved on watching up these clowns and just tending to hype you up
and make out some deposits on the site that they are really that advertising. Stick into your sense on which this would really be the key.

Those are the things that make their viewers get influenced, they think that if you have a large bankroll, you can actually make money through gambling because those streamers actually make it look easy using high bets and ending up having more balance in their account when they are ending their stream from when they started it. These things make their viewers start gambling and try to use bankrolls as high as possible to possibly earn money through it and eventually end up losing all their money.

People who watch these streamers need to understand that whatever they see isn't always real and one can't have the same experience as them if they try to copy them and earn money, and even if a streamer is actually using real money, it's because they can afford to do it and they won't even be bothered even if they lose that money since they earn good enough.

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Quote from: Hispo on October 26, 2023, 07:27:32 PM

Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

To be honest, I do not think I could spot the difference, though I would try to find over-exaggerated reactions to losses and unnatural underwhelming reactions to wins. But a good actor could always fool someone like me, who is not used to watching streamers for hours and hours in a row.

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

I don't claim to be a veteran in the gambling world but what I mostly notice about those fake streamers is that their reactions the way they bet and the way they react to losses or winnings are very different. You could really see the difference between a fake and one that is not affected by the losses. I just recalled when after the pandemic there were tons of videos in social media that in the end they were playing in a casino and the way they won some money was some sort of fake. They were laughing but you could recognize that it was scripted but I am not saying all but there are this kind of streamers.

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The fact part is EVERYBODY KNOWS

Like who doesn't know that those streamers are doing it to get paid? Either they are fake or real its all about the money, if not why the effort at all? It makes no sense to work for free without getting something in return, the fake ones will even shill gambling results that aren't real, to make people FOMO onto the casino and try their luck.

If gambling is that easy as how the streamers are making it look like, almost all gamblers will have become a millionaire, that's why you must not gamble base on what you see in screen, majority of those advert are not real, and the fact is it's not easy to win in a casino.

I have never watched an advert about casino saying "Try and test your luck, you might win or lose" it's always some rollers hitting the jackpot or gamblers jumping up because they just hit millions of dollars, all casinos adverts are not reality, they are all base on fantasy, it's left for gamblers to do the right thing.

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Quote from: Davicious on October 23, 2023, 09:13:14 AM

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?
It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

There was a time when I started to question every streamer involved in high stakes gambling, especially the new channels and streamers betting heavy and without even caring around a million dollars in one session. It not only lacks enjoyment for us as viewers and enjoying the max win videos and emotional ones, but also those videos or streams seem so fake. Streams that aren't honest and claim to use real money hold no value for me and I won't waste my time watching or supporting them.

On the other hand, I have come across some streamers who play with smaller to average stakes, and some even with the minimum bet in games like Sweet Bonanza, Gates of Olympus, and Sugar Rush. I genuinely enjoy their videos. I remember one streamer that gamble on Roobet, and run a contest daily while he gamble I enjoyed watching him beside winning the prize couple time and been received to my Roobet account as tip.

For those fake casino streamers, do you think they are paid by the casino itself or just they were trying to get more views?

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 27, 2023, 03:24:09 AM

Quote from: Hispo on October 26, 2023, 07:27:32 PM

Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

Fake streamers usually advertise their sponsorship deals pretty blatantly which is why it's easy to identify them. However, it's very difficult to differentiate between a legit and fake streamer who aren't endorsed in any manner whatsoever.

I wouldn't bet on identifying such streamers though some bad actors can be easily identified thanks to obvious tells.

Streamers would provably promote something that can benefit them and they will not stream for nothing so for sure its hard to fine those streamers with huge following that doesn't accept any promotion because that's how they earn then sustain their channels. If no income will come to them for sure they will not last long on that career because for sure they leave and find another options that can give them guarantee income.

Maybe we can see these people with low following but I don't think their are people will spend some time watching those not famous streamers since usually people always go with the hype and those famous streamers got this that's why they usually watch them and possible can win on promotions they offer to their channels. I may bet on what they are promoting but I make sure that I'm in the right mind to follow my own strategy and not those strategies or info's they tell since obviously that's fake and might not work to us.

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 25, 2023, 11:51:44 AM

Streamers (also the fake kind) are popular both with the casinos/sportsbooks as well as the viewership. They advertise a platform and its games, and play there with fake money or cash the casinos gave them. That's marketing. When they win, those watching their streams want to replicate their success and play there as well. That's the gambling mindset. If one person won, that means I could as well. The more gamblers are watching those streams, the greater the chance that some of them will sign up or continue playing at the advertised casinos looking for their next big win.

You are right... after watching big winners (real or fake) we would like (or we think it's our turn) to achieve a similar thing, to get those max wins, or at least very high multipliers. But the odds are against us, the reality is that big wins don't happen that often...

But that's gambling... it's on us to try it and test our luck! If we don't try it and risk some money then we don't have any chances, simple as that. So we try and try, and sometimes, some people win... but just some people!

at truth, this happens frequently to our gamers, who are gamblers at any casino we visit. And, as you say, we no longer notice it. Because the only thing we ever think about when we gamble is that we will be lucky, right?

But there is no hurting if we will manage to check whom we are following because streamers are being paid with their client and they will say every possible things to attract players,
so better before looking for Luck best to look for good side first as remember if you were scammed there is no way that you can get back your money.

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The streamers will not promote a casino if they are not sponsored by it, unless they are certain that, in addition to getting paid, they will receive other perks for signing up through their link, one of which is a bonus commission.

lol even how they are certain , since it is their Work to stream or promote , they will seek for payment or else they will move to other client or opponent of that said site.

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Quote from: Hispo on October 26, 2023, 07:27:32 PM

Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

Fake streamers usually advertise their sponsorship deals pretty blatantly which is why it's easy to identify them. However, it's very difficult to differentiate between a legit and fake streamer who aren't endorsed in any manner whatsoever.

I wouldn't bet on identifying such streamers though some bad actors can be easily identified thanks to obvious tells.

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Streaming sites may be legit but the streamers and their contents are questionable. For the dollar, streamers will do whatever it takes, and considering that the streamers got online to get the dollars makes me even more suspicious on the content the streamers are streaming. Most of the contents we find in the internet today are not regulated and then platforms just open up to these streamers to stream. How can we tell whats real and whats fake. Don't believe everything you see on streaming sites.

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Quote from: iv4n on October 25, 2023, 02:15:23 PM

Quote from: Pmalek on October 25, 2023, 11:51:44 AM

Streamers (also the fake kind) are popular both with the casinos/sportsbooks as well as the viewership. They advertise a platform and its games, and play there with fake money or cash the casinos gave them. That's marketing. When they win, those watching their streams want to replicate their success and play there as well. That's the gambling mindset. If one person won, that means I could as well. The more gamblers are watching those streams, the greater the chance that some of them will sign up or continue playing at the advertised casinos looking for their next big win.

You are right... after watching big winners (real or fake) we would like (or we think it's our turn) to achieve a similar thing, to get those max wins, or at least very high multipliers. But the odds are against us, the reality is that big wins don't happen that often...

But that's gambling... it's on us to try it and test our luck! If we don't try it and risk some money then we don't have any chances, simple as that. So we try and try, and sometimes, some people win... but just some people!

Yes we can not deny the fact that once we saw a winner on that gambling sites then like what you said we are jealous and we want to win too in order to feel what they felt. But we must remember that not all streamers are real some of them are fake, they gamble because the online casino paid them and that money they use to gamble is not from then cause it's sponsored by the owner of the sites and lastly it's hard to believe why when the streamers will bet they will always win but If our turn we will loss. So there's a reason behind that thing for sure it's a drama not a real one.

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Quote from: Hispo on October 26, 2023, 07:27:32 PM

Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

To be honest, I do not think I could spot the difference, though I would try to find over-exaggerated reactions to losses and unnatural underwhelming reactions to wins. But a good actor could always fool someone like me, who is not used to watching streamers for hours and hours in a row.

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

Nah, I will not dare to bet on that. Maybe not that hard to spot the difference between a real and fake streamer but not wise to accuse them wihout a legitimate proof.
Most of the evidences only come from a "hunch".

Also, some viewers who get the giveaways will denied about it hehe.

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Quote from: iv4n on October 25, 2023, 02:15:23 PM

Quote from: Pmalek on October 25, 2023, 11:51:44 AM

Streamers (also the fake kind) are popular both with the casinos/sportsbooks as well as the viewership. They advertise a platform and its games, and play there with fake money or cash the casinos gave them. That's marketing. When they win, those watching their streams want to replicate their success and play there as well. That's the gambling mindset. If one person won, that means I could as well. The more gamblers are watching those streams, the greater the chance that some of them will sign up or continue playing at the advertised casinos looking for their next big win.

You are right... after watching big winners (real or fake) we would like (or we think it's our turn) to achieve a similar thing, to get those max wins, or at least very high multipliers. But the odds are against us, the reality is that big wins don't happen that often...

But that's gambling... it's on us to try it and test our luck! If we don't try it and risk some money then we don't have any chances, simple as that. So we try and try, and sometimes, some people win... but just some people!

at truth, this happens frequently to our gamers, who are gamblers at any casino we visit. And, as you say, we no longer notice it. Because the only thing we ever think about when we gamble is that we will be lucky, right?

The streamers will not promote a casino if they are not sponsored by it, unless they are certain that, in addition to getting paid, they will receive other perks for signing up through their link, one of which is a bonus commission.

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Quote from: Eternad on October 26, 2023, 02:19:42 PM

Quote from: Sunderland on October 26, 2023, 02:12:42 PM

Most of streamers playing with a special deposit bonus, lets say they deposit $10k and the site will give them 10x or 20x bonus or more from their initial deposit with different wagering requirement including min and max bet amount depends on their followers and their popularity.

Also usually the site who pays for the giveaways, not the streamer.
Many of them using scripted bots to make their channel looks alive or close friends who will win the giveaways.

Most of the popular streamer doesn’t claim bonuses because have partnership money from the casino they are promoting plus the referral commission from all the viewer who will sign up using their referral link.

True that how can one claim a bonus when they are sponsored by the casino? I think aside from the agreed payment, streamers also earn some percentage of the winning amount. The reason why many streamers joy looks so genuine because of this kind of setup.

Quote from: Eternad on October 26, 2023, 02:19:42 PM

I agree that most of their giveaway is just fake especially if the reward will come from their pocket but some streamers is genuinely giving away since one of my friend manage to win on one of the casino streamers giveaway although the amount is not high since the streamer he is watching is not that extremely popular.

Some streamers who happen to use their own money create a giveaway when they hit huge amounts of money on their session. We cannot deny the fact that most streamers are staging fake giveaways but there are still many streamers that are genuine when it comes to giveaways.

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Question for all you guys who consider yourselves to be veterans within the gambling world.
Do you think you would be able to spot a fake gambling streamer from an actual streamer who would be wagering their money in a casino (no sponsorships or fake credits of any kind) ?

To be honest, I do not think I could spot the difference, though I would try to find over-exaggerated reactions to losses and unnatural underwhelming reactions to wins. But a good actor could always fool someone like me, who is not used to watching streamers for hours and hours in a row.

What you guys think?
Would you be willing to bet on you spotting the fakers?

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These platforms should remove such videos or place an age restriction on those containing online casino content to ensure the safety of their young viewers.

Yeah. That isn't happening anytime soon because these are the same platforms that allow viewers of all ages to watch game streams where real money can be used for various benefits such as FIFA packs, CS skins etc.

Their families are the only ones who can make sure that they don't get obsessed with any of that stuff basically.

I do not yet get why people collect things in general, it is just something that does not really click on me - I mean, other than collecting money Grin

But certainly I know people who will go through pains to find things like a carpenter's plane or certain physical items. What I mean is that if physical collections do not click with me, I won't even tell you about collecting digital items (other than art I guess).

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Quote from: Davicious on October 23, 2023, 09:13:14 AM

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

You should have your own way of determining if what you watch is crap or not.

Having a little experience playing at a casino shouldn't be a reason why that subject should be a big issue for you. It's not wrong to watch those streams but we all have common sense if what we really watch does make sense or is worth our time. Others just watch it for entertainment as it supposed to be.

Obviously, there are popular streamers, rising ones, and newbie streamers. Most of these streamers are on purpose of gathering lots of subscribers and views that's why they are hired or not by gambling sites, it doesn't matter as their revenue will come from the number of views per stream.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 25, 2023, 02:39:05 AM

I don't know about this article what to think as we have some real streamers and some other guys trying to copy what they do,it is difficult to distinguish yet if you see streamers playing at popular casinos it means they are sponsored by them and as such I consider them true streamers while people playing on not at all well known platforms I consider them not true as my distinction between true and false streamers,this for me have worked well as when I want to see a true streamer I immediately see at which casino he is playing,if he is playing in really big well known casinos I watch him,if not I don't.

Most of streamers playing with a special deposit bonus, lets say they deposit $10k and the site will give them 10x or 20x bonus or more from their initial deposit with different wagering requirement including min and max bet amount depends on their followers and their popularity.

Also usually the site who pays for the giveaways, not the streamer.
Many of them using scripted bots to make their channel looks alive or close friends who will win the giveaways.

Not all streamers are bad or fake, some of them are real gamblers either and they are the same with us, just looking for profits with a special deposit bonus and gain popularity to make more money from it.

Most of the streamers who are promoting gambling platforms are just doing their job to earn money and there’s no problem with that as long as minors won’t be allowed to get involved. Those who are streaming platforms are not required to be as passionate as us for this industry. Their goal is to just promote a platform and if he happens to be really a gambler for that platform then that would be better. Some streamers are just making use of their popularity to pronote anything they are being paid for and that’s just fine for me. If they are not really a gambler then for sure they won’t be loved in such title as it is now; they play other games as well for sure which keeps their audiences still there.

But trying out to filter on the age of your viewers on said streaming platforms is almost that impossible or would really be that hard on which you cant really know on whose really behind those monitors and even if you do put up some disclaimer then there's no guarantee or assurance that there's no minor on which seeing your stream on which chances that there would really be those young minds that have seen with those things. This is what makes it hard but since you are really just that simply doing your job then it would really be that your least concern in this regard.

We know that in todays era or years where accessibility is already that too easy on spreading or market out services or companies or products that you are really that having.Hiring
up with those influencers with so much followers will really be fastening up the job and we are really that paying for that one.So its normal that their job would
really be giving out recommendations on the companies that they are promoting.As a viewer then we should really be that careful on choosing on whose the one we are really that following on.

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Quote from: Sunderland on October 26, 2023, 02:12:42 PM

Quote from: swogerino on October 25, 2023, 02:39:05 AM

I don't know about this article what to think as we have some real streamers and some other guys trying to copy what they do,it is difficult to distinguish yet if you see streamers playing at popular casinos it means they are sponsored by them and as such I consider them true streamers while people playing on not at all well known platforms I consider them not true as my distinction between true and false streamers,this for me have worked well as when I want to see a true streamer I immediately see at which casino he is playing,if he is playing in really big well known casinos I watch him,if not I don't.

Most of streamers playing with a special deposit bonus, lets say they deposit $10k and the site will give them 10x or 20x bonus or more from their initial deposit with different wagering requirement including min and max bet amount depends on their followers and their popularity.

Also usually the site who pays for the giveaways, not the streamer.
Many of them using scripted bots to make their channel looks alive or close friends who will win the giveaways.

Not all streamers are bad or fake, some of them are real gamblers either and they are the same with us, just looking for profits with a special deposit bonus and gain popularity to make more money from it.

Most of the streamers who are promoting gambling platforms are just doing their job to earn money and there’s no problem with that as long as minors won’t be allowed to get involved. Those who are streaming platforms are not required to be as passionate as us for this industry. Their goal is to just promote a platform and if he happens to be really a gambler for that platform then that would be better. Some streamers are just making use of their popularity to pronote anything they are being paid for and that’s just fine for me. If they are not really a gambler then for sure they won’t be loved in such title as it is now; they play other games as well for sure which keeps their audiences still there.

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