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Internet companies do all the crazy tricks to promote their services. And it's not just the gambling industry that does all these because the adult industry is the worst of it all. A chick on the camera can actually make the jackass pay for more ballistic positions or a Facebook friend request with a petite girl can bring a maniac go to an adult dating site.

In the gambling industry which is very competitive, they could really be just rolling out their own money or a new owner of a casino may even do a streaming himself just to promote and them scam clients in the end.
legendary
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You're asking why casino streamers are fake? why you're not ask why people are wasting their time to watch someone who gamble? if there's no market, the casino will not want to spend money for that marketing strategy since there's many other ways.

Gambling is about luck especially the streamer is playing slots, it's really worth to watch someone sad, happy, angry and just click spin button?
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Yes, we can't call them fake, they're just doing their job.
Acting like they are risking their own money with the casino supporting them in various ways is most definitely considered fake/artificial behaviour and there is no need to sugercoat it.

They know damn well what they are doing and they are earning well by fooling gamblers around the world. Think!
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well, is totally different to see a streamer playing with $1k than a streamer playing with $9M... And that is why these streams are that attractive to users, because is crazy to see guys playing $50k hands on blackjack, or doing $100k bonus buys, is just a high-quality bait.

But i wouldn't say is fake money, streamers have a roll-over, just like the depo bonus rules, if they can bet the starting balance X times, then they can keep the money. Each casino have it's own rules about this.
Every streamer has a different deal. Some have the rollover like you mentioned, some just have to stream for x hours and keep what's left, and some have to stream and get to keep 10% of the balance that's left. There are other deals out there as well, but they all depend on many factors. How many viewers you get in your stream on average, how many followers you have, how often you can/will stream, what sort of balance you want to play with, etc. All of this is considered before a casino will even offer you a deal, if certain numbers aren't there then a casino will not offer you a deal. You also have to have depositors if/when you get a deal. If people aren't making deposits under your code, you will lose your deal within 2 weeks. Casino has to be gaining something from you or there is no point in having you on their payroll.

If you are a streamer with a nice number of viewers( not from a viewbot as that's worthless)(min 50-100 average viewers) and have an active chat, I may be able to get you a deal. I would have to verify a few things before getting you in contact with my contact. Send me a pm or message on telegram @yahoo62278 and maybe I can help you out. Don't waste my time though, I'm not contacting anyone for you if you have a viewbotted channel. It's pretty easy to spot.
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There are two types of streamers currently in the streaming platforms. One who invests funds from himself and gambles to entertain people. Another one is who get sponsored by the casinos to play in those and hence they gamble. Now there is no need to call anyone fake according to me. They have done enough hardwork also to reach this position. So yes it’s according to them whether they will promote a site or how they will stream. If you don’t like them, then just ignore and move on.

As far as i know, some streamers has literally no idea on what they'd advertise or they don't really play it in real life just like what others features in their posts and streams. Some casino hires many influencers nowadays, that's one of their marketing and advertising strategy to gain players, investors and clients. Influencers and Streamers received a sponsors and business proposals not just in gambling but also to introduce new online games in the market. Yes, we can't call them fake, they're just doing their job.
What you say is true because an influencer is usually paid quite large amount but some of them don't really know what they are promoting because an influencer only prioritizes payment and not anything else related to the site.
But there are indeed many influencers like those in the article shared by the OP even though I haven't actually found them quite a lot of gamblers have said so and have found them.

In my country there are several similar cases but most of them are influencers who have all the requirements for streaming gambling have been prepared by the gambling site so that the influencer only needs to broadcast it.
Most of them are casino accounts that have been prepared by the site and the accounts used to play and broadcast have very high winning percentage so losses occur less frequently.
Things like this will make more people interested especially new gamblers who don't have much gambling experience.
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The good thing is that they at least are not on YT anymore. Not interested people never will find them. Unless they are Drake fans
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Nowadays people on the internet use all means to make money, this means they are not trying hard to lose money. Those guys who create twitch channels are creating with the intention of making a profit from it, that's why they play with little money from their pockets and when they have opportunities to be sponsored by the casino then obviously they will play using the money that the casino gave them to play. Now how would this be considered fake? If the owner of the channel did not say that he plays with money from his pocket and was honest in saying that it is being sponsored by a casino, then he cannot be considered dishonest, because he was honest in saying where the money comes from so he can do everything bets

It becomes fake and dishonest when the guy doesn't say where the money comes from for him to place bets and lies that he uses money from his pocket to place bets when in fact he is being sponsored by a casino. Another very important point is that people should not copy everything these stream channel owners do and say. because we all know that in games of chance people rarely come out with a profit, there are more losses than profits. By the way, OP, I see that you created an account last year but only now did you decide to make this post and precisely with an article that was created by a certain casino that in the past was involved in a controversy that reduced their popularity. this is very strange
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Isn't it obvious ? It's because of their popularity. Streamers get a lot of views for their streams and viewers get influenced by them and start betting on the casino sites.
Although we can't say that all such streamers use fake accounts but many of them do and get paid for influencing others.
It's best to bet within our limits and on the sites that we trust. We should keep trying casino sites with very small deposits and stick to 1 or 2.
As a business owner then it would really be just that normal that you would really be putting up focus into those known or popular influencers or streamers when it comes to marketing as much as possible knowing that exposure would really be that more wide if the said  streamer would really be that having that tons of followers on which it would really be just that so normal that they would really be that choosing those.
Speaking about  fake then i dont think that there would really be that becoming that big or popular because once that a certain streamer does have that kind of issue on something being that manipulative
then issues could really be thrown out and would really be affecting his popularity and reputation then which means that he cant really go into the peak in speaking about being that reputable.

This is why we us viewers then it would really be just that normal that you would really be that careful on whose streamer you would really be watching into.
Its impossible though that you wont really be noticing something if there's odd something happening.
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).
Yes it is obvious that a one sided article , and believing streamers is like letting your money being taken by casino houses that easy.
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There are two types of streamers currently in the streaming platforms. One who invests funds from himself and gambles to entertain people. Another one is who get sponsored by the casinos to play in those and hence they gamble. Now there is no need to call anyone fake according to me. They have done enough hardwork also to reach this position. So yes it’s according to them whether they will promote a site or how they will stream. If you don’t like them, then just ignore and move on.

As far as I know, some streamers have literally no idea of what they'd advertise or they don't really play it in real life just like what others feature in their posts and streams. Some casino hires many influencers nowadays, that's one of their marketing and advertising strategy to gain players, investors, and clients. Influencers and Streamers received sponsors and business proposals not just for gambling but also to introduce new online games in the market. Yes, we can't call them fake, they're just doing their job.
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Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?
You have to check it yourself if you want to know the truth, I didn't click on the link you linked and because I'm not someone who is interested in watching broadcasts from gambling streamers, I don't care at all if it's true, but if there is a fake streamer would have very little of viewers because usually gamblers will only watch broadcasts from known streamers.
And you don't need to be confused about why Twitch and Kick are full of broadcasts from gambling streamers because it has been going on for a long time and specifically for Kick, it became even more famous when Twitch banned crypto casinos from broadcasting on that platform.
What about doing your own research? This happens a lot, especially when people are online. Thats exactly why human verification is so important. Yeah, why waste time on people you don't know, right? When it comes to gaming, trustworthiness is absolutely essential. Strange or unreliable material won't get anyone's attention.

Turning the camera around a bit, it's interesting to see how platforms like Kick have used Twitch's choices to their advantage. A classic case of one door closed and another opening. Content creators will always find ways to get their work out there, even if some sites ignore them. Whats the basic idea? Be careful, think critically, and always, always ask questions about what you see before you start.
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Not just in gambling world only, anything the streamers around the world offers are been sponsored, this is how they make their own money, if you are the type that believes in things easily you will be filled easily, I don't always believe such entertainments because it's fill with lies and staged games.

Most streamers gets paid by bringing in people to the casino, they have only one goal, to influence many people as possible and that is what increase their paycheck.

Avoid them and gamble within your limits, use only trusted gambling platforms and leave the rest, some reputable casinos use streamers also and that doesn't make them bad but be careful when picking your online casino.
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).

There are plenty of posts around that talk about Stunna/Eddie (same person from what I have read) incentivizing restricted countries to use VPNs to bypass country restrictions and use Stake, and influencers/streamers doing the same thing toward their followers. All it takes is some googling or bitcointalk searching to see the reports of such. That's only one malpractice from the casino.

I think you are partially right that LTC Casino have made the post to point out the issues with Stake, probably to benefit their casino in turn. Though if the allegations are true, then that's just a competitor taking the opportunity to gain some business. I don't blame them for exposing a competitor if the allegations are true, and from my reading, they are more likely to be true than untrue.
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed

Some facts and arguments struck me as very curious. I had never really thought about why nowadays the Twitch and Kick platforms have become so full of people streaming online casinos there.

Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

It's very interesting to hear the opinion of experienced players and people who are versed in this subject.

Isn't it obvious ? It's because of their popularity. Streamers get a lot of views for their streams and viewers get influenced by them and start betting on the casino sites.
Although we can't say that all such streamers use fake accounts but many of them do and get paid for influencing others.
It's best to bet within our limits and on the sites that we trust. We should keep trying casino sites with very small deposits and stick to 1 or 2.
legendary
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I came across a very interesting article about fake streamers https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed
Having little experience playing at online casinos, I can't be sure that everything written in this article is true. What do you think about it?

The article is clearly written by a person who are coming from a specific casino (ltccasino) and what is written in the article is about some specific streamers (Drake, Roshtein and even Eddie who is known as the founder of Stake) who are working/being paid/affiliated by specific casino (Stake). I think article is not merely written to educate people but it is more about a casino that want to make people to think negatively about the competitor. I can be wrong, just a wild guess but it is a bit strange because the example given in article is like targeted to one specific casino only while there are some other casinos that are promoted with similar way (by streamers).
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The "Affiliate" streamers are fake, because they are using the money that are funded by the casino for them to gamble. They normally have unlimited funds and they also make huge bets to draw attention to gambling for marketing purposes. (You want to see a guy making $1000 bets.... not someone making $0.30 bets.. right)  Roll Eyes

Also, having being funded by a casino.... they usually chase the big win for much longer times, until the RTP kick in and he or she wins back the money or they win big jackpots. Normal players have a much smaller balance to play with and their money runs out... way before the RTP are hit.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Agreed, Most of the streamers especially high rollers use fake balance but they also using part of their money on some of their bankroll aside from their partnership money. They are not totally fake but rather they just have a  higher bankroll due to partnerships that’s why they can play in a very careless manner or whatever they like.

There some streamers that reported losing everything including their own savings just because they become addicted. A gambler that use to bet huge amount will always use the same bet amount whenever they are playing with real money. Maybe sometimes they are already using their own money on some part of their stream.
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For old gamblers, maybe they already know this and I also know this, so it is part of marketing to get traffic, after all, almost all casinos do the same thing in collaboration with streamers and influencers, this is done only to attract new gamblers, in fact, as long as there are still many their audience will become increasingly popular and that's what happens, as old gamblers of course what we do is just remind beginners not to gamble too deeply.

Whatever is said about fake casinos and others in this thread is not just a figment of the imagination and almost all of them actually collaborate with casinos and all the money in them may also be manipulated, even all casinos also use this method because it is faster to get traffic quickly than marketing. other. but there are also gamblers who are honest and do not display their winnings there because they know the dealer will always win  Cheesy
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The "Affiliate" streamers are fake, because they are using the money that are funded by the casino for them to gamble. They normally have unlimited funds and they also make huge bets to draw attention to gambling for marketing purposes. (You want to see a guy making $1000 bets.... not someone making $0.30 bets.. right)  Roll Eyes

Also, having being funded by a casino.... they usually chase the big win for much longer times, until the RTP kick in and he or she wins back the money or they win big jackpots. Normal players have a much smaller balance to play with and their money runs out... way before the RTP are hit.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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I think the question is not popular. They already have audience, before they stream casino most of them are are gamers (the audience are not from gambling). The real question, why people still watching even they're fake ? the reason is because most of the stream have (Giveaway) points on their stream system, that's the reason why people still watch these guys even they're doing a fake stream.

Take for example Drake, in almost every stream he does, he usually have this giveaways, he even called individuals personally, facetime them and so to the audience that indeed there is a person on the other side and that everything seems to be real, I mean the money that he is giving away. But it could come to Stake themselves as we all know that they sponsored him.

And also, those who are being called supposedly sign up under Drake, so there is where the source of the money is. Them sign under him as a affiliate and then he gives them money. Sure way, like win win for all party and then he can also make money too to those who are watching every streams.
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There are two types of streamers currently in the streaming platforms. One who invests funds from himself and gambles to entertain people. Another one is who get sponsored by the casinos to play in those and hence they gamble. Now there is no need to call anyone fake according to me. They have done enough hardwork also to reach this position. So yes it’s according to them whether they will promote a site or how they will stream. If you don’t like them, then just ignore and move on.
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