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Quote from: HeRetiK on December 15, 2020, 09:03:11 AM

Who in their right minds would buy covid-19 vaccines on the black market? Even if it were the right product there's no way to know whether it's been stored appropiately. Even mail delivery times would already cause trouble, at least with the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine.

Also keep in mind that many governments are going to vaccinate their citizens for free (or at least especially affected people such as health care workers or people with pre-existing conditions).

Exactly. Though buying the covid-19 vaccines with Bitcoins are quite good and less hassle for me, but the thought of buying in the black market is really disgusting. No people in their right minds would dare to try this kind of clear scam, its really obvious. And yes, you are definitely right, the governments will take charge of everything about this vaccines and we just have to wait to be immunized for free instead of getting it for ourselves in a rush way, only to put our health more at risk. As for me, I would rather wait for the free vaccine from our Government for a sure result and I don't have any plan to spend my money and purchase it myself.

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Quote from: thesmallgod on December 21, 2020, 03:18:49 AM

because of some elements like those reported in this article https://financialpost.com/financial-times/vaccines-for-sale-on-dark-web-as-criminals-target-pandemic-profits I am not very sure accessing COVID19 vaccine using crypto will be very realistic remember the approved vaccines are still at the early stage of distribution and according to the UNICEF some pharm companies are already targeting over 2 billion dosage by 2021 https://www.unicef.org/supply/covid-19-vaccine-market-dashboard. In most cases, vaccines like this are closely monitored by the government and are likely to be delivered directly to them and not make available to a common man on the street. All dosage will be take charge by the government who in many countries will be free for all to get vaccinated or make affordable just like some of the previous vaccines such as polio vaccines etc

It is true that the vaccines that are produced by multinational pharmaceutical giants such as Moderna, Pfizer and AstraZeneca will be delivered directly to the government agencies and they will not be available in the market. But the same can't be said about the vaccines from various manufacturers in China and Russia. I have strong suspicion that these vaccines may become available in the open market. The dark market listing which is mentioned by the OP involved vaccines from two Chinese companies - Sinopharm and Sinovac.

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because of some elements like those reported in this article https://financialpost.com/financial-times/vaccines-for-sale-on-dark-web-as-criminals-target-pandemic-profits I am not very sure accessing COVID19 vaccine using crypto will be very realistic remember the approved vaccines are still at the early stage of distribution and according to the UNICEF some pharm companies are already targeting over 2 billion dosage by 2021 https://www.unicef.org/supply/covid-19-vaccine-market-dashboard. In most cases, vaccines like this are closely monitored by the government and are likely to be delivered directly to them and not make available to a common man on the street. All dosage will be take charge by the government who in many countries will be free for all to get vaccinated or make affordable just like some of the previous vaccines such as polio vaccines etc

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on December 20, 2020, 05:42:18 PM

I am sure there are many fake COVID19 vaccines currently circulating, because scammers see that the demand for the vaccines is so high.
Certainly making scammers take advantage of this situation by selling the fake COVID19 vaccine on the dark web or on various market place
platforms. So I suggest you don't buy the COVID19 vaccine in a place that the government does not recommend, because to my knowledge
the COVID19 vaccine is not sold freely. Must buy from places that have been determined by the government, to ensure its safety.

There are only some rumors that fake vaccines are made available through dark markets. I am yet to see any concrete proof regarding the same. But here in India, local quacks have been selling their own "anti-COVID 19" medications for some months now. These medicines are made from local herbs and those who are taking them have reported no additional immunity against the Coronavirus. Anyway, all this just proves that the pandemic has created a lot of opportunities for the scammers, to make some quick money.

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Quote from: South Park on December 20, 2020, 04:02:21 PM

While I completely agree with you and I will never do something like that, the fact that there is a market for that suggests that there are people that are willing to do it, but who will? Exactly the kind of person that has spent months or even years buying from those kind of markets different drugs and taking them without worrying about whether the product that they were sold is what they were told, in that case those are kind of people who probably have no problem applying that fake vaccine to themselves.

That is, you want to say that some people are ready to constantly be deceived by not reacting very critically to any high-profile offers on the Internet? Or do they simply have no idea about the product they are buying? I still think that scammers posting such ads on the Internet are like fishermen throwing their bait in the hope of biting. If there are buyers for such a product, this does not mean that such behavior is a system for such buyers and they constantly become a victim of scammers.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on December 20, 2020, 05:42:18 PM

I am sure there are many fake COVID19 vaccines currently circulating, because scammers see that the demand for the vaccines is so high.
Certainly making scammers take advantage of this situation by selling the fake COVID19 vaccine on the dark web or on various market place
platforms. So I suggest you don't buy the COVID19 vaccine in a place that the government does not recommend, because to my knowledge
the COVID19 vaccine is not sold freely. Must buy from places that have been determined by the government, to ensure its safety.

There's still no vaccine until now or in short it isnt really finalized yet but good thing that they are already in the final phases before it would be mass produce.
You know that there would be people who would took advantage into this current pandemic and the main needed now is the vaccine.So its just normal for
them to use up things which are been desperately needed by some people even on what means.To think up carefully that it wont really be that safe
on getting those vaccine shots came from darknet which you wouldnt even know if its effective or highly dangerous instead.

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I am sure there are many fake COVID19 vaccines currently circulating, because scammers see that the demand for the vaccines is so high.
Certainly making scammers take advantage of this situation by selling the fake COVID19 vaccine on the dark web or on various market place
platforms. So I suggest you don't buy the COVID19 vaccine in a place that the government does not recommend, because to my knowledge
the COVID19 vaccine is not sold freely. Must buy from places that have been determined by the government, to ensure its safety.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on December 17, 2020, 11:31:45 AM

Buying vaccines through unauthorised dealers will put yourself in danger. Who would dare to inject themselves with vaccines came from nowhere? Why need to rush to get injected with these vaccines? If the vaccines will start to inoculate I’d rather wait for few months before taking it, because we can’t a 100% sure even if it came from legit source if its safe.

While I completely agree with you and I will never do something like that, the fact that there is a market for that suggests that there are people that are willing to do it, but who will? Exactly the kind of person that has spent months or even years buying from those kind of markets different drugs and taking them without worrying about whether the product that they were sold is what they were told, in that case those are kind of people who probably have no problem applying that fake vaccine to themselves.

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Quote from: bearexin on December 20, 2020, 03:14:51 AM

Why would anyone be buying their covid19 vaccines from a dark web when you already know how bad the people on the dark web can be. If you’re going to buy vaccines from anyone it should be from organizations that are well recognized and also allowed by the government to create and sell such a vaccine, and not just some people on the dark web that keeps on hiding their identity.

By buying from you don’t know at all you’re taking a huge risk, you don’t even know what was mixed in what you’re building and it can be some kind of substance that are harmful to your health

Purchasing prescription drugs from the dark market is not a new phenomenon. Drug prices are extremely high in the United States, due to FDA regulations. The same drug, which may cost $0.10 per pill in Canada may be sold at $5.00 per pill in the United States. And this has forced many Americans to actually travel to Canada or Mexico so that they could purchase cheap drugs. Those who don't want to travel purchase them from various dark markets. But then, purchasing unapproved vaccines using these sites involves a lot of risk.

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Why would anyone be buying their covid19 vaccines from a dark web when you already know how bad the people on the dark web can be. If you’re going to buy vaccines from anyone it should be from organizations that are well recognized and also allowed by the government to create and sell such a vaccine, and not just some people on the dark web that keeps on hiding their identity.

By buying from you don’t know at all you’re taking a huge risk, you don’t even know what was mixed in what you’re building and it can be some kind of substance that are harmful to your health

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Quote from: zasad@ on December 19, 2020, 04:38:30 PM

https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/19/coronavirus-uk-boris-to-hold-emergency-cabinet-meeting-today-13776673/

Scientists in the UK have identified a new strain of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2.
To be honest, vaccine testers are paid money to do this, so it's very strange that people are willing to buy unknown drugs on the Internet.
Can anyone explain how the vaccine works? How long does the vaccine protect against disease or serious consequences?

Vaccine works by having your normal cells produce proteins that are similar to the proteins present on the SARS-COV-2 virus. It's an mRNA virus, and mRNA is the intermediate between DNA and the final proteins produced by your body.

Since the proteins are foreign, the immune system will attack them and produce antibodies for any future spike proteins of SARS-COV-2.

Problem is, a mutation, could render the vaccine if the mutation causes vastly different spike proteins to be expressed. The vaccine is based on targeting the spike proteins.

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Quote from: Raflesia on December 19, 2020, 09:45:59 AM

But I am honest if my fitness is good then I will not get vaccinated even though it's free.

That is going to be the wrong strategy, I am afraid. The fatality rate is low for healthy people who are below 40-50 years of age, but it is not zero. In most of the countries, the fatality rate for this demographic group is around 0.1%, i.e one in thousand. So you can't say that you are safe from COVID 19. If you contract the virus, then there is a real chance that you may get seriously ill. I would recommend undergoing vaccination, irrespective of the age and presence of comorbidity.

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People must be out of their minds and that is maybe because they were already driven by desperation to believe that such vaccine being sold in the dark web is a legit and an effective vaccine. It is impossible for them to have the true vaccine for the fact that Pfizer is the one facilitating the distribution of the vaccine to many countries as planned for the mass usage of the created vaccine with 95% efficiency. Well, if there is a chance that the dark web do really have some legit vaccine then it is expected to be sold on a very expensive price and those who are really desperate would acquire such vaccine even if it is sold in terms of Bitcoin. But they must still think of the legibility of the vaccine being sold in that platform for the legit ones are still under distribution process. Better just wait for those rather than risking your life on fake vaccines because source is not known as well as legibility of it.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on December 19, 2020, 05:15:50 PM

Covid-19 vaccines on the dark web? How can we ensure that it is original or fake?
Moreover, vaccines cost expensive.
Well,
personally, I will not take the vaccine if it is so. I will prefer to wait for the official announcement and also vaccines by the government. It is not only about the way to buy the vaccine using Bitcoin but also the big news about the price of the vaccine. We must pay high for an uncertain vaccine Lol

You would really be expecting these kind of sales in Darkweb and from that place alone then you can really have doubts if those were legit or not.
It doesn't really need to be that expensive for those legit vaccines to come out because not all would really able to benefit that out in case if theres
some huge distribution.It might sound dumb but there are people who do lurk into DW and do tend to make use of their coins on buying out those
vaccines.Its just because out of desperation or do simply make out some useless purchase? As a human being its just normal for us to have some
common sense when it comes on purchasing something specially if it connects with health issues.

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Covid-19 vaccines on the dark web? How can we ensure that it is original or fake?
Moreover, vaccines cost expensive.
Well,
personally, I will not take the vaccine if it is so. I will prefer to wait for the official announcement and also vaccines by the government. It is not only about the way to buy the vaccine using Bitcoin but also the big news about the price of the vaccine. We must pay high for an uncertain vaccine Lol

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 18, 2020, 10:37:01 PM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on December 18, 2020, 06:01:19 PM

As said in the previous posts, and I agree with it because people wanted and they are so desperate with the vaccine. Maybe most of them can't wait to get the vaccine because they are not the ones being prioritized. I mean, it is really dumb buying vaccines in the black market. Who even knows where that vaccine came from?

It is a dumb move to purchase vaccines from the black market. But I can understand why people are getting more desperate. Till now, more than 1.6 million people have lost their lives to COVID 19. But if you are outside a high-priority demographic group, then you may not receive the vaccine before 2022. The government is prioritizing those with comorbidities, and those above 80 years of age. A lot of the deaths have occurred outside these two groups, and therefore I can understand the desperation being shown by them.

With a lot of cases happening all over the world, the demand is so high while the supply is so small. I hope the production would be faster for all the people to have the vaccine. Now that we have the vaccine, the only problem now is for the vaccine to be mass produced. I do understand their desperation but I hope that they can still wait, I know it takes a lot of patience but it is needed.

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https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/19/coronavirus-uk-boris-to-hold-emergency-cabinet-meeting-today-13776673/

Scientists in the UK have identified a new strain of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2.
To be honest, vaccine testers are paid money to do this, so it's very strange that people are willing to buy unknown drugs on the Internet.
Can anyone explain how the vaccine works? How long does the vaccine protect against disease or serious consequences?

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I don't get it though, what do you expect from an unknown seller in the dark web? but the most questionable part is, who's buying this!? I mean it can't be the common people since most don't even know how to enter the dark web. It's probably some rich dudes who wants to try their luck or desperate enough to actually buy this vaccines.

This is kinda dangerous though because the fact that it's from unknown source, these vaccines are most likely not safe.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 19, 2020, 06:20:18 AM

Quote from: Strongkored on December 19, 2020, 03:56:51 AM

My country has announced that the vaccine will be given free to all of the citizen, just waiting for its implementation but I know this will also be misused by officials with a corrupt mentality. Those who buy fake vaccines on the dark web are people who have more money to spent it, unlike most people with limited income who don't even know about the dark web.

In almost all the countries, the vaccines will be distributed for free of cost. Here in India also, the announcement has been made. So the affordability is not an issue, as the government is picking up the price tag. But the real issue is with the delay in distribution. Health workers, elderly and those with comorbidity are given preference for vaccination. If you are outside these groups, then you may need to wait for another 1-2 years. And this is the reason why so many people are trying to obtain vaccines from illegal sources.

It would be terrible if it was misused by irresponsible people even from the government, but we all know that the synovac vaccine from China has arrived in various countries but I still lack confidence because from the government I still continue to test its feasibility for use In everyone who gets injected however, there is good news too that the first president was to be the first to be given the vaccine to entrust the public about the dangers or not.
But I am honest if my fitness is good then I will not get vaccinated even though it's free.

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Even the vaccines that were officially released had still some issues with regards to its potency and side and adverse effect. So the chances on having the vaccine on black market yields would pose a much larger risk since you don't know if it the really vaccine or fake and we can't tell the exact effect it may do to our body.

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