Fate or lack of control - Gambling - page 13.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on April 27, 2021, 09:13:03 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

Most gambling is based on the theory of probability.

Therefore, it makes sense to estimate the probability of your winning at the beginning of the game. If the probability of winning is less than 50 percent, then you are guaranteed to lose if you play long enough.

There are gambling games in which your potential winnings are determined solely by your qualifications and your intellectual superiority over your partners in the game (for example, poker).

In such games, it is advisable to choose the weakest and dumbest partners for the game. This will guarantee you an easy win.

You can differentiate between a strategic based type of game to a pure luck based ones which you can eventually tell based up on experience on what
are the probabilities for you to win a certain game.If you do have enough knowledge and awareness then you can point out which one would really be good
if you do really mind of making profits and its up to you when making out decisions neither you do get out when in profits or simply proceed if you do
tend to play for more.Self control is always been on question.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on April 27, 2021, 09:13:03 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

Most gambling is based on the theory of probability.

Therefore, it makes sense to estimate the probability of your winning at the beginning of the game. If the probability of winning is less than 50 percent, then you are guaranteed to lose if you play long enough.

There are gambling games in which your potential winnings are determined solely by your qualifications and your intellectual superiority over your partners in the game (for example, poker).

In such games, it is advisable to choose the weakest and dumbest partners for the game. This will guarantee you an easy win.

As I've also mentioned previously, gambling is a game of chance, simple probabilities that we were taught in school (with the rolling dice being the most popular example). On each game, you have an X chance of winning and a Y of losing, the faster we acknowledge that, the better. All gambling games include the most contributing factor, which is chance, while a few other such as Poker, Roulette, or sport betting do require some kind of knowledge and skills.

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If there are gamblers who say their defeat is due to fate, it means that they cannot accept the losses suffered due to their own decisions.
Because our fate depends on our actions, therefore if we don't want to experience big losses when playing gambling. We must be able to
control ourselves when playing gambling, not to overdo gambling and get addicted. Actually experiencing losses in playing gambling is
a natural thing, because it is impossible for us to always profit when playing gambling. Or don't play gambling at all, if we are afraid of
experiencing losses when playing gambling.

Anyone trying to blame fate is just trying to shift blame away from himself and just wants to get sympathy as this was something that was happening to him no matter what this person did, and as you may guess this is not true, people need to accept the responsibility for their actions, if they do not do it then they are going to keep making the same mistakes many times and once they finally learn their lesson it could be too late for them as the losses they would have accumulated over that period of time will be too high.

I don't believe in fate, I believe in science, luck is simple algebra and probabilities, so is gambling, nothing to do with fate whatsoever. We're accepting the risk of losing our money when we're gambling, we know that there's a high chance we will, but we continue anyway. We are responsible for our own actions, if we end up losing money it's out of pure luck and lack of control.

At the end of the day we as humans are not as rational as we tend to believe, I know people that have seen the effects of smoking first hand and they still do it, I tell them they are going to suffer the same consequences if they do not stop and they keep doing it, so at some point during their lives they will have to pay the price and if they are willing then who am I to question them? However I am sure that when that time comes they are going to try to blame everyone except themselves about their situation similarly to what we see with addicted gamblers.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

Most gambling is based on the theory of probability.

Therefore, it makes sense to estimate the probability of your winning at the beginning of the game. If the probability of winning is less than 50 percent, then you are guaranteed to lose if you play long enough.

There are gambling games in which your potential winnings are determined solely by your qualifications and your intellectual superiority over your partners in the game (for example, poker).

In such games, it is advisable to choose the weakest and dumbest partners for the game. This will guarantee you an easy win.

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Quote from: peter0425 on April 23, 2021, 12:37:42 AM

It is not gambling that made the damage but the gambler that decides for their future .

so never blame gambling for what you will become because this is just s game and a Human is having the decisions .

I believed that gamble made for people to have some time and spend their extra time without feeling bored. But we all know that having fun should have limitations. For me, gambling is not fate, it is having lack of control. You don't win because you it's your fate to win the gamble. You loss because of indecisive decisions and having lack of control. We human should know to control ourselves and understand the consequences if we let ourselves in gambling.

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Quote from: Pamadar on April 27, 2021, 03:43:22 AM

Indeed! there's no regret as beforehand they'll knew that consequences .

There are many options if you straighten your mindsets, gambling as for the sake of fun should have limitation. It helps to prevent making big mistakes and losing huge amount of money.

Understand that whatever action you take it reflects to your personality, best to assess and keep your control over your gambling activities.

Yes, it is. The important here always have limitations and never break that for our own good. Once we forgot about that, our life will be in trouble. I agree that we should have a good mindset in gambling and we should have control for ourselves so that it will help us lose money.

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Quote from: Pamadar on April 27, 2021, 03:43:22 AM

There are many options if you straighten your mindsets, gambling as for the sake of fun should have limitation. It helps to prevent making big mistakes and losing huge amount of money.
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The solution to this is quite simple, you have to see gambling for what it is: a hobby that costs money (and in the very unlikely event can lead to you making a lot of money from it).

Personally, I control this, for example, through a fixed amount that I spend per month on my hobbies (cinema, ... but also gambling). Once this amount is reached, I no longer gamble. In some months I get out with a plus and then take it with me for the next month, where it is then mostly gambled away again Wink

That will need more control to be like you but you did a great to limit yourself in gambling. That is a simple plan on what we want to do with our money and if the amount is reached or we still have some amount for that month, we do not have to spend more instead, we can save it back to our wallet. And if we can win from gambling, that will be a bonus for us. It is hard to limitations but worth learning about limitations to not get into trouble in the future.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

I think that term is just a way for them to console themselves when they lose. Fate is decided by each person. When participating in gambling, they must accept the risks. In my opinion, in gambling, there is no trick that can make us win forever, no one can know whether we will win or lose. We need to have self-control, set certain limits to avoid losing everything

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Quote from: Pamadar on April 27, 2021, 03:43:22 AM

There are many options if you straighten your mindsets, gambling as for the sake of fun should have limitation. It helps to prevent making big mistakes and losing huge amount of money.
-snip-

The solution to this is quite simple, you have to see gambling for what it is: a hobby that costs money (and in the very unlikely event can lead to you making a lot of money from it).

Personally, I control this, for example, through a fixed amount that I spend per month on my hobbies (cinema, ... but also gambling). Once this amount is reached, I no longer gamble. In some months I get out with a plus and then take it with me for the next month, where it is then mostly gambled away again Wink

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Quote from: Obito on April 23, 2021, 03:30:13 AM

For me, people who don't take responsibility for their action and instead blame the unseen forces that may or may not exist are the type of people that don't deserve to have a prosperous life because if they can't own up to their actions then how can you expect them to do anything productive. When you are spiraling in losses when gambling, there is only one to blame and that is the individual.

Those people do not have confidence in themselves, so he counts on unseen forces that are unnecessary. They can not see that they actually have their power to do something other than just playing gambling to make money. They do not realize that life is not just for having fun, but we also need to try to do something and change our lives better. When they lose their money in gambling, that will be their mistake and they should not regret it because that is the consequence of playing gambling.

Indeed! there's no regret as beforehand they'll knew that consequences .

There are many options if you straighten your mindsets, gambling as for the sake of fun should have limitation. It helps to prevent making big mistakes and losing huge amount of money.

Understand that whatever action you take it reflects to your personality, best to assess and keep your control over your gambling activities.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 25, 2021, 04:42:37 PM

You'll never feel bad if you are a responsible gambler, being responsible makes you understand the risk and reward in gambling, and more so the risk since most gamblers are losing money, that's the reality we can't deny, and as evidence, their industry is growing that we can ever imagine.

All we do is be honest with ourselves, we can't beat the house if that's our intention, but we can be lucky sometimes and that's the reward in gambling.

It will be difficult for someone to accept responsibility when you are addicted to gambling, and being honest to ourselves is difficult because our brains are wired with the current reality and having it changed is a pretty difficult thing because we can't accept that our reality is wrong.

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Quote from: Obito on April 23, 2021, 03:30:13 AM

For me, people who don't take responsibility for their action and instead blame the unseen forces that may or may not exist are the type of people that don't deserve to have a prosperous life because if they can't own up to their actions then how can you expect them to do anything productive. When you are spiraling in losses when gambling, there is only one to blame and that is the individual.

Those people do not have confidence in themselves, so he counts on unseen forces that are unnecessary. They can not see that they actually have their power to do something other than just playing gambling to make money. They do not realize that life is not just for having fun, but we also need to try to do something and change our lives better. When they lose their money in gambling, that will be their mistake and they should not regret it because that is the consequence of playing gambling.

You'll never feel bad if you are a responsible gambler, being responsible makes you understand the risk and reward in gambling, and more so the risk since most gamblers are losing money, that's the reality we can't deny, and as evidence, their industry is growing that we can ever imagine.

All we do is be honest with ourselves, we can't beat the house if that's our intention, but we can be lucky sometimes and that's the reward in gambling.

We do not have to worry about the risk of gambling if we are responsible gamblers. But many gamblers can not be responsible gamblers and lose their money shortly. That is because they lack control and not being responsible for what they do in gambling.

Yes, when we can accept that the house will win in the end, we do not have to play gambling for a long time. And if we want to play gambling, just play for having fun and not think about trying to win the house because that will not easy.

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Quote from: michellee on April 25, 2021, 02:10:29 AM

Quote from: Obito on April 23, 2021, 03:30:13 AM

For me, people who don't take responsibility for their action and instead blame the unseen forces that may or may not exist are the type of people that don't deserve to have a prosperous life because if they can't own up to their actions then how can you expect them to do anything productive. When you are spiraling in losses when gambling, there is only one to blame and that is the individual.

Those people do not have confidence in themselves, so he counts on unseen forces that are unnecessary. They can not see that they actually have their power to do something other than just playing gambling to make money. They do not realize that life is not just for having fun, but we also need to try to do something and change our lives better. When they lose their money in gambling, that will be their mistake and they should not regret it because that is the consequence of playing gambling.

You'll never feel bad if you are a responsible gambler, being responsible makes you understand the risk and reward in gambling, and more so the risk since most gamblers are losing money, that's the reality we can't deny, and as evidence, their industry is growing that we can ever imagine.

All we do is be honest with ourselves, we can't beat the house if that's our intention, but we can be lucky sometimes and that's the reward in gambling.

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Quote from: Obito on April 23, 2021, 03:30:13 AM

For me, people who don't take responsibility for their action and instead blame the unseen forces that may or may not exist are the type of people that don't deserve to have a prosperous life because if they can't own up to their actions then how can you expect them to do anything productive. When you are spiraling in losses when gambling, there is only one to blame and that is the individual.

Those people do not have confidence in themselves, so he counts on unseen forces that are unnecessary. They can not see that they actually have their power to do something other than just playing gambling to make money. They do not realize that life is not just for having fun, but we also need to try to do something and change our lives better. When they lose their money in gambling, that will be their mistake and they should not regret it because that is the consequence of playing gambling.

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Quote from: justdimin on April 22, 2021, 07:44:57 AM

If you notice no one ask to stop you completely but suggesting you to take a break so that you will be finding different approach with your gambling. Taking break is very important so that we could approach gambling in different dimension which might bring changes in final results as well.

Take a break if you're always having a bad result.

That doesn't mean that you're giving up but in terms of gambling, you have to do something so that you can breathe some fresh air. Gambling is also a mental game that your mind will get tired if you're not going to take a break.

And that could lead you to potential more losses.

it will also help you clear your mind and see things differently. you will be surprised what it will do to you if you take even a quick break from what you are doing. maybe, it will even give you the hint of stopping your gambling activities. who knows?
dont chase your losses as you will incur more losses in that way. better know your targets here. what's in store for you in gambling? think about the reason why you are doing this in the first place.

Yes.

Breaking is like a reset for those gamblers who can't think right anymore. There's much pressure on their minds and that's really a big mistake if they won't put themselves into break.

Refresh your minds, have a rest and take time to rethink before continuing if things are not going accordingly to what was planned.

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Quote from: Obito on April 23, 2021, 03:30:13 AM

For me, people who don't take responsibility for their action and instead blame the unseen forces that may or may not exist are the type of people that don't deserve to have a prosperous life because if they can't own up to their actions then how can you expect them to do anything productive. When you are spiraling in losses when gambling, there is only one to blame and that is the individual.

Well said, we have to take responsibility of our action, saying that it's our fate everytime we loss is an stupid excuse, with that as our mentality, we will never learn or will not enjoy gambling because all we experience are just mostly loses.

Understand the risk and reward is necessary as that is the basis of our action, if we think we have less chance, then we should not take it seriously, instead gamble for fun as we consider that gambling platform as a luck based gambling platform only.

Even though the accepted result is losing more often but if it is just for fun, I think a result of winning and losing is no longer important for those who just gamble for fun. Gambling is basically having to be aware of control and not believe in fate, because I believe fate can be changed if we can do it better and fully with more mature considerations and to achieve that certainly a control is needed.

Even if we do play for entertainment or leisure but we cant really avoid nor not able to ignore that we do aim for making money via winning on the game but somehow
having the difference on what are the motives of a certain gambler will surely affect his behavior and reactions towards it thats why we do see lots of gamblers
do fail into this manner due to very common reason or aim which is to make money and once they lost their cool or control then this is where disaster do happens.
Fate has nothing to do with this because you are the ones who do make your own destiny.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 23, 2021, 05:02:10 AM

Quote from: Obito on April 23, 2021, 03:30:13 AM

For me, people who don't take responsibility for their action and instead blame the unseen forces that may or may not exist are the type of people that don't deserve to have a prosperous life because if they can't own up to their actions then how can you expect them to do anything productive. When you are spiraling in losses when gambling, there is only one to blame and that is the individual.

Well said, we have to take responsibility of our action, saying that it's our fate everytime we loss is an stupid excuse, with that as our mentality, we will never learn or will not enjoy gambling because all we experience are just mostly loses.

Understand the risk and reward is necessary as that is the basis of our action, if we think we have less chance, then we should not take it seriously, instead gamble for fun as we consider that gambling platform as a luck based gambling platform only.

Even though the accepted result is losing more often but if it is just for fun, I think a result of winning and losing is no longer important for those who just gamble for fun. Gambling is basically having to be aware of control and not believe in fate, because I believe fate can be changed if we can do it better and fully with more mature considerations and to achieve that certainly a control is needed.

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Quote from: Xinarae* on April 22, 2021, 11:49:35 PM

Gambling usually involves a lot of damage on one's own and in dealing with the situation. Even if a loss it is foolish to give up and lose everything profits and losses for the game will be higher if the risk is high it helps to learn something new and it becomes easier to know the next step of the game so gambling has to be played and enjoyed as a means of entertainment. You need to apply your skills and learn to take breaks when the risk is high in the midst of all adversity if the trader the participating gambler is respectful of the rules he can run the casino business profitably.

It is not gambling that made the damage but the gambler that decides for their future .

so never blame gambling for what you will become because this is just s game and a Human is having the decisions .

- Agree, the hurt comes from the decisions and the people who own the decisions are us, we are not in a hurry to run out of there, we even try to experience more joyful emotions here but clearly, a preset scene is just setbacks and crying miserably for loss, the victims are overwhelmed on the front page of many newspapers. Not learning from experience to get yourself out of adversity, thinking that fate causes us to fail, it is just a perfect disguise, don't let the cycle of guilt and blame keep us from growing up

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Quote from: Obito on April 23, 2021, 03:30:13 AM

For me, people who don't take responsibility for their action and instead blame the unseen forces that may or may not exist are the type of people that don't deserve to have a prosperous life because if they can't own up to their actions then how can you expect them to do anything productive. When you are spiraling in losses when gambling, there is only one to blame and that is the individual.

Well said, we have to take responsibility of our action, saying that it's our fate everytime we loss is an stupid excuse, with that as our mentality, we will never learn or will not enjoy gambling because all we experience are just mostly loses.

Understand the risk and reward is necessary as that is the basis of our action, if we think we have less chance, then we should not take it seriously, instead gamble for fun as we consider that gambling platform as a luck based gambling platform only.

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For me, people who don't take responsibility for their action and instead blame the unseen forces that may or may not exist are the type of people that don't deserve to have a prosperous life because if they can't own up to their actions then how can you expect them to do anything productive. When you are spiraling in losses when gambling, there is only one to blame and that is the individual.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on April 22, 2021, 06:39:08 AM

Belief in fate for me is just like a positive energy that can boost and have chances of winning and to focus on your gambling activity and should always remember how to control your lack and not should overcome in greed chasing your losses. Responsible gamblers will always be fine and far away from gambling addiction. Nevertheless, whatever it is, always be responsible for ourselves and gamble on what you can afford.

You can term whatever you prefer but ultimately by the end of the day you will be finding yourself with lack of control over your gambling. In the middle of gambling, we just need some reasons to continue and we are transferring that responsibility to our fate. But honestly that is really a lack of control over our gambling to stop and then continue after a break.

If you notice no one ask to stop you completely but suggesting you to take a break so that you will be finding different approach with your gambling. Taking break is very important so that we could approach gambling in different dimension which might bring changes in final results as well.

Believing in fate is something people do to justify their losses or mistakes, not only in gambling but any other aspect in life too, it's an easy way to abdicate for your mistakes/losses, that it is someone else's fault, not yours, it was fate that made you lose. Of course that's not realistic, but there are plenty of people who still believe in such a thing.

We might all lose control when gambling, it's just best to acknowledge when we do and proceed to take a break for a while, learn when we have to stop.

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