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First and foremost using gambling as a source of income is never advisable and it's one of the first Dont's of gambling because it can cause collateral damage.

Of course it would be wrong if a gambler considers gambling as a place for a source of income. If so, they should be consulted to change their mindset at gambling. But I don't want to blame those who are used to it, they will shape their own destiny on gambling.

Quote from: Lordhermes on April 05, 2021, 01:25:31 PM

However, I said earlier gambling is not for everybody because it was meant for people who can deal with the risk involved in the game not people who will turn it into an addict or blame the provider for his own mistakes.

I think it is true, for activities that risk money, they must consider the risk and accept the consequence. Gambling is a place where our money is always on the verge of defeat and victory. Skill only minority supporter, luck is expected and decisive.

So there is no harm if they are used to it, because with them being used to gambling I'm sure they must have their own way when losing at gambling. Therefore, when they have control then making gambling as a source of income might be fine for those who are used to it but indeed, the most important thing is not to make gambling a source of income because after all gambling is just for fun with any outcome that will be obtained.

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Quote from: acquafredda on April 05, 2021, 09:54:26 AM

And like all the worst addictions gambling can ruin people's lives.
If it would be seen as gaming rather than gambling, meaning if it is only some killing time activity done not that ofte, it could also be great and fun. But when it turns into an addiction, then the negative black hole starts spinning.
Educating yourself about the potential threats that can come from gambling is the first step to avoid ever get caught in that supermassive black hole.

A gambler must surely be addicted to predicting several games, casinos and other gambling facilities. Therefore, there are some specific activities that helps reduce the rate at which a gambler predicts and bets. Extra curriculum endeavour can actually be a helpful factor in winning the urge to be always finding yourself into gambling. This will certainly help.

For me controlling my gambling habits is the most important part of winning and losing. I don't really believe in fate when I gamble, it is up to me to decide if I stop after a winning session of if I continue to gamble it all away again. Controlling our actions for our long term plans is key here. What I like a lot lately is the 24hrs Panic Button for casinos. If I find myself losing a bit too much, or being up a lot, I can just press the button be locked out for 24 hours. Sometimes we just need a little help to control our gambling habits better.

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First and foremost using gambling as a source of income is never advisable and it's one of the first Dont's of gambling because it can cause collateral damage.

Of course it would be wrong if a gambler considers gambling as a place for a source of income. If so, they should be consulted to change their mindset at gambling. But I don't want to blame those who are used to it, they will shape their own destiny on gambling.

Quote from: maydna on April 05, 2021, 04:06:28 AM

However, I said earlier gambling is not for everybody because it was meant for people who can deal with the risk involved in the game not people who will turn it into an addict or blame the provider for his own mistakes.

I think it is true, for activities that risk money, they must consider the risk and accept the consequence. Gambling is a place where our money is always on the verge of defeat and victory. Skill only minority supporter, luck is expected and decisive.

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Quote from: acquafredda on April 05, 2021, 09:54:26 AM

We Will Win if we Know how to manage controlling our desires and demand, Gambling is a Game of disciplined people and not those aggressive one.

No gambling is a game of mature and understanding people

Gambling is a game people, whether they be stupid or mature, anyone can play it, and they can both win. Aggressive ones don't win? BS. Disciplined ones don't win? BS. They both win, that's why luck is always fair, it always looks out to everyone equally.

I agreed lucky is always fair not only in gambling cause it also fair in every other setting but it Gambling is a game for gamblers not for all people that is people who can take and live through the risk involve in the gamble this is the reason why I said gambling is for mature and understanding people and if people don't understand this important part when it comes gambling, addiction will never stop.

Once you become addicted to gambling, that will be the hardest part of your life because you will not think about other things except gambling. Your passion for gambling becomes bigger, and if you have money, you will use it for gambling instead of buying your daily needs. Gambling is an activity that has risks, and not all people can accept the risk. Some of them willing to take that risk and playing on many gambling games because they want to make money from gambling. If they realize that the chance to win will not bigger than lose, they should not use gambling as their source of income.

First and foremost using gambling as a source of income is never advisable and it's one of the first Dont's of gambling because it can cause collateral damage. However, I said earlier gambling is not for everybody because it was meant for people who can deal with the risk involved in the game not people who will turn it into an addict or blame the provider for his own mistakes.

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And like all the worst addictions gambling can ruin people's lives.
If it would be seen as gaming rather than gambling, meaning if it is only some killing time activity done not that ofte, it could also be great and fun. But when it turns into an addiction, then the negative black hole starts spinning.
Educating yourself about the potential threats that can come from gambling is the first step to avoid ever get caught in that supermassive black hole.

A gambler must surely be addicted to predicting several games, casinos and other gambling facilities. Therefore, there are some specific activities that helps reduce the rate at which a gambler predicts and bets. Extra curriculum endeavour can actually be a helpful factor in winning the urge to be always finding yourself into gambling. This will certainly help.

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Quote from: dimonstration on April 05, 2021, 12:26:38 PM

Quote from: acquafredda on April 05, 2021, 09:54:26 AM

And like all the worst addictions gambling can ruin people's lives.
If it would be seen as gaming rather than gambling, meaning if it is only some killing time activity done not that ofte, it could also be great and fun. But when it turns into an addiction, then the negative black hole starts spinning.
Educating yourself about the potential threats that can come from gambling is the first step to avoid ever get caught in that supermassive black hole.

When we know how to weight our priorities and we already set in our mind our goals and what to do we will not be too attached in doing gambling, usually those who became too addicted are the one's who have too much time, no work or dependent on parents that they will hVe money for them to spend throughly in gambling. We will never know if we're lucky or not without trying but we must know to limit ourselves.

You nailed it! if you know how to set your priorities you can manage well your activities, gambling is there to relax you but never to engaged to much to avoid addictions.

Every person / gambler got their own reasons and opinions about this but most of the time, those who have a lots of spare time are the one who's prone to addiction, using most of their time inside the house makes them more engaged and greed.

Where every worse things start when you see yourself trying to hit larger amount each time you gamble.

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Quote from: acquafredda on April 05, 2021, 09:54:26 AM

And like all the worst addictions gambling can ruin people's lives.
If it would be seen as gaming rather than gambling, meaning if it is only some killing time activity done not that ofte, it could also be great and fun. But when it turns into an addiction, then the negative black hole starts spinning.
Educating yourself about the potential threats that can come from gambling is the first step to avoid ever get caught in that supermassive black hole.

When we know how to weight our priorities and we already set in our mind our goals and what to do we will not be too attached in doing gambling, usually those who became too addicted are the one's who have too much time, no work or dependent on parents that they will hVe money for them to spend throughly in gambling. We will never know if we're lucky or not without trying but we must know to limit ourselves.

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And like all the worst addictions gambling can ruin people's lives.
If it would be seen as gaming rather than gambling, meaning if it is only some killing time activity done not that ofte, it could also be great and fun. But when it turns into an addiction, then the negative black hole starts spinning.
Educating yourself about the potential threats that can come from gambling is the first step to avoid ever get caught in that supermassive black hole.

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Quote from: maydna on April 05, 2021, 04:06:28 AM

Once you become addicted to gambling, that will be the hardest part of your life because you will not think about other things except gambling. Your passion for gambling becomes bigger, and if you have money, you will use it for gambling instead of buying your daily needs. Gambling is an activity that has risks, and not all people can accept the risk. Some of them willing to take that risk and playing on many gambling games because they want to make money from gambling. If they realize that the chance to win will not bigger than lose, they should not use gambling as their source of income.

The funny thing is that if these people later got rid of their addiction but did not find themselves some other interesting occupation, they recall the old days with nostalgia - after all, they had a goal and an eager thirst for gambling. They experience such emotions even though they realize it was an unhealthy condition.

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Quote from: michellee on April 01, 2021, 11:41:50 AM

Controlling ourselves in gambling will be above everything because that is one thing that we must have. Otherwise, we will lose everything that we have. But it can be a fate for us to losing money from gambling, especially if we do not remember when to stop playing gambling. We must realize that playing gambling can make us losing money slowly or faster, depend on how much money we use to bet.

If someone gambles, it's already attached that losing is always be one of the results. Well, there's not that much result but only two exists, to win and to lose.
But most of the results that would happen to us is losing, this happens very often whether you're good and discipline. It's inevitable and whether it's your fate, you must come up with a plan and I agree with what you've said about knowing when you should stop. Whether you win a lot or lose a lot, you should know how to stop.

We already know that in the game of gambling there are two choices of winning and losing, but the most important thing is that all of our self-control must be properly maintained, meaning that we don't spend a lot of money even though we already know to lose, discipline is very important there and emotional control and good strategy should be how to use it, don't use the winning benchmark continuously because gambling is a big risk, we can only enjoy a moment where big wins happen, but these opportunities don't come often only luck and fate will determine.

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Quote from: passwordnow on April 05, 2021, 06:47:05 AM

Quote from: michellee on April 01, 2021, 11:41:50 AM

Controlling ourselves in gambling will be above everything because that is one thing that we must have. Otherwise, we will lose everything that we have. But it can be a fate for us to losing money from gambling, especially if we do not remember when to stop playing gambling. We must realize that playing gambling can make us losing money slowly or faster, depend on how much money we use to bet.

If someone gambles, it's already attached that losing is always be one of the results. Well, there's not that much result but only two exists, to win and to lose.
But most of the results that would happen to us is losing, this happens very often whether you're good and discipline. It's inevitable and whether it's your fate, you must come up with a plan and I agree with what you've said about knowing when you should stop. Whether you win a lot or lose a lot, you should know how to stop.

It also depend on the game you are playing, a game that is won only by luck, there's no way you can win in the long run, your discipline may help but not to win but to enjoy and minimize your loses. There are only 2 outcome, win or loss but it's not true that we loss most of the time if we know how to choose our game.

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Quote from: michellee on April 01, 2021, 11:41:50 AM

Controlling ourselves in gambling will be above everything because that is one thing that we must have. Otherwise, we will lose everything that we have. But it can be a fate for us to losing money from gambling, especially if we do not remember when to stop playing gambling. We must realize that playing gambling can make us losing money slowly or faster, depend on how much money we use to bet.

If someone gambles, it's already attached that losing is always be one of the results. Well, there's not that much result but only two exists, to win and to lose.
But most of the results that would happen to us is losing, this happens very often whether you're good and discipline. It's inevitable and whether it's your fate, you must come up with a plan and I agree with what you've said about knowing when you should stop. Whether you win a lot or lose a lot, you should know how to stop.

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Quote from: hulla on April 04, 2021, 07:59:42 PM

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We Will Win if we Know how to manage controlling our desires and demand, Gambling is a Game of disciplined people and not those aggressive one.

No gambling is a game of mature and understanding people

Gambling is a game people, whether they be stupid or mature, anyone can play it, and they can both win. Aggressive ones don't win? BS. Disciplined ones don't win? BS. They both win, that's why luck is always fair, it always looks out to everyone equally.

I agreed lucky is always fair not only in gambling cause it also fair in every other setting but it Gambling is a game for gamblers not for all people that is people who can take and live through the risk involve in the gamble this is the reason why I said gambling is for mature and understanding people and if people don't understand this important part when it comes gambling, addiction will never stop.

Once you become addicted to gambling, that will be the hardest part of your life because you will not think about other things except gambling. Your passion for gambling becomes bigger, and if you have money, you will use it for gambling instead of buying your daily needs. Gambling is an activity that has risks, and not all people can accept the risk. Some of them willing to take that risk and playing on many gambling games because they want to make money from gambling. If they realize that the chance to win will not bigger than lose, they should not use gambling as their source of income.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on April 04, 2021, 06:28:31 AM

We Will Win if we Know how to manage controlling our desires and demand, Gambling is a Game of disciplined people and not those aggressive one.

No gambling is a game of mature and understanding people

Gambling is a game people, whether they be stupid or mature, anyone can play it, and they can both win. Aggressive ones don't win? BS. Disciplined ones don't win? BS. They both win, that's why luck is always fair, it always looks out to everyone equally.

I agreed lucky is always fair not only in gambling cause it also fair in every other setting but it Gambling is a game for gamblers not for all people that is people who can take and live through the risk involve in the gamble this is the reason why I said gambling is for mature and understanding people and if people don't understand this important part when it comes gambling, addiction will never stop.

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Quote from: Wexnident on April 03, 2021, 11:05:39 PM

Gambling is a game people, whether they be stupid or mature, anyone can play it, and they can both win. Aggressive ones don't win? BS. Disciplined ones don't win? BS. They both win, that's why luck is always fair, it always looks out to everyone equally.

Probably what he is talking is a consistency of wins, even if you are stupid, you can still win but in the long run you still lose money. Just try to look at addicted gamblers, they have some winning moment but due to lack of discipline they still lose their money in the end, worst if they lose everything because of addiction.

They will just continue to lose even opportunities knocks them out as greed will always behind them, thinking that luck are already there for them they will just ry to aim for more.
This kind of situations follow that scenarios most of the time with addicted gamblers, they don't mind for anything but to try to win, no matter what they will just continue to play.

It's something that control is really needed, though it's not the case when a person is already engaged and have
addiction problem.

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Strategies that rely on controlling your luck will never work because as we know it is impossible to control the random element of the games, the only thing that you can control in a gambling game is yourself, so if you do not want to experience big losses then the best way to do this is by not gambling with an amount of money that you're not willing to lose, if you happen to do that then the amount of money that you will lose will always be small and you will have no reason to be mad because the fun that you got out of the games is going to be worth the small amount of money that you spent.

Okay, assume they know the risk before they play, but they still play gambling, and if they lose several times, they are not thinking about stopping gambling instead of continuing to play gambling. So that does not make sense that they still playing gambling because, in the next rounds, they can lose more money. They know the risk, but they do not stop. If you know the risk, it is better to stop than continue playing gambling. They know the risk or they forget the risk? Grin

I think it is both, a person will need to be extremely ignorant about gambling to not know that the casino has an edge over them, we all know that, so why people still keep losing more money than what they are willing to lose when they gamble despite knowing this obvious fact? And the answer is very simple, people are not rational every single second of the day, we take a lot of decisions based on our emotions and while there are circumstances in which that is the correct thing to do, like when you decide who you are going to marry, there are also many circumstances in which this is incorrect like in gambling.

Agreed, it's because of our emotions that we make poor decisions; it's difficult to think clearly, particularly if you enjoy gambling and have already agreed to gamble anything for a big payoff. People continue to lose money because they are curious where their money would go if they use it in gambling, resulting in addiction and a loss of control. That's why gambling platforms should implement precautions to lessen this kind of cases but of course they will not do that because it's their advantage to gain profit from this kind of people.

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Quote from: Silberman on March 31, 2021, 09:57:14 PM

Strategies that rely on controlling your luck will never work because as we know it is impossible to control the random element of the games, the only thing that you can control in a gambling game is yourself, so if you do not want to experience big losses then the best way to do this is by not gambling with an amount of money that you're not willing to lose, if you happen to do that then the amount of money that you will lose will always be small and you will have no reason to be mad because the fun that you got out of the games is going to be worth the small amount of money that you spent.

Okay, assume they know the risk before they play, but they still play gambling, and if they lose several times, they are not thinking about stopping gambling instead of continuing to play gambling. So that does not make sense that they still playing gambling because, in the next rounds, they can lose more money. They know the risk, but they do not stop. If you know the risk, it is better to stop than continue playing gambling. They know the risk or they forget the risk? Grin

I think it is both, a person will need to be extremely ignorant about gambling to not know that the casino has an edge over them, we all know that, so why people still keep losing more money than what they are willing to lose when they gamble despite knowing this obvious fact? And the answer is very simple, people are not rational every single second of the day, we take a lot of decisions based on our emotions and while there are circumstances in which that is the correct thing to do, like when you decide who you are going to marry, there are also many circumstances in which this is incorrect like in gambling.

I bet that is what happens to that person. If they do not ignore what they can lose in gambling, they will not lose more money than the money they are willing to lose. Maybe the other fact is they still want to test their luck because sometimes, that thing is come to my mind and seduce me to continue playing gambling. But I remember that will not happen to me, especially if I already lose some money. I think you already have the same experience as me, and I think we learn from the past that if we continue playing gambling, that can invite other losses than winning.

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Quote from: Wexnident on April 03, 2021, 11:05:39 PM

Gambling is a game people, whether they be stupid or mature, anyone can play it, and they can both win. Aggressive ones don't win? BS. Disciplined ones don't win? BS. They both win, that's why luck is always fair, it always looks out to everyone equally.

Probably what he is talking is a consistency of wins, even if you are stupid, you can still win but in the long run you still lose money. Just try to look at addicted gamblers, they have some winning moment but due to lack of discipline they still lose their money in the end, worst if they lose everything because of addiction.

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Hmmm there's really nothing that's "out of control" for us, but if you were to attribute it to your sole being, then there'd be a LOT of stuff that's going to be out of control since humans weren't supposed to receive blessings or suffer disasters alone. As for relating it to gambling, ngl, that's your sole responsibility. Fate or whatnot doesn't even affect it at ALL. I mean, if you were to attribute losing to "fate", then I suppose so, but if you were to attribute losing money to "fate"? Then that's already wrong.