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Quote from: Russlenat on March 17, 2021, 07:48:13 AM

Quote from: Alucard1 on March 17, 2021, 07:33:18 AM

I don't believe in fate or something like that, it is you to decide what will be your future. You are not in fate to win gambling, it is your knowledge and strategy that you have put into the games. I just notice on some gamblers that whenever they have lost in a game they just keep on saying that it is not their day or it is not their lucky day even though they have played a skilled based gambling which requires skills and technique to win the game and not only in luck.

Every gambler has the game cycle, whenever they have lost they keep on playing because of thinking that they could turn back the money that has lost which I always want to avoid on my side because sometimes it just turns up into an empty pocket.

That would make you do the right approach which is a realistic one.

I'm positive in gambling and understand the risk also.

If I win big time then I would say that is my fate and gambling will change my life, however if the opposite will happen, I would not call it a fate or something, instead, I would accept that I made a mistake and I need to improve my strategy to win, I would only stop gambling if I realize that I don't have any chance anymore.

I guess that will be fate too, as that is what happens to you.
The fate is you made a mistake and lose the money.
But if you lose more and more money and not thinking about stopping the game, that will be a lack of control, and that is your fate too.
But once we get another loss, it will better to stop playing gambling and not think about continuing playing gambling and using more money because that can trigger another loss.

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Quote from: Russlenat on March 17, 2021, 07:48:13 AM

Quote from: Alucard1 on March 17, 2021, 07:33:18 AM

I don't believe in fate or something like that, it is you to decide what will be your future. You are not in fate to win gambling, it is your knowledge and strategy that you have put into the games. I just notice on some gamblers that whenever they have lost in a game they just keep on saying that it is not their day or it is not their lucky day even though they have played a skilled based gambling which requires skills and technique to win the game and not only in luck.

Every gambler has the game cycle, whenever they have lost they keep on playing because of thinking that they could turn back the money that has lost which I always want to avoid on my side because sometimes it just turns up into an empty pocket.

That would make you do the right approach which is a realistic one.

I'm positive in gambling and understand the risk also.

If I win big time then I would say that is my fate and gambling will change my life, however if the opposite will happen, I would not call it a fate or something, instead, I would accept that I made a mistake and I need to improve my strategy to win, I would only stop gambling if I realize that I don't have any chance anymore.

For typical gamblers they usually believe in luck or in fate but for gamblers who think of consistency, they rely on their method and improve it. There's a big difference in terms of mindset actually, serious gambler put serious bankroll and expect realistic percentage of win but some gamblers put a small bankroll and expect big winnings. Grin

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

I believe it is not fate to lose in gambling, "fate" is something that we can't handle, but also it is something that universe puts in front of us that we have to endure as well, gambling is not like that, you can stop at any time if you want to, fate is like car hitting you when you did nothing wrong, when gambling you know that house edge will make you lose in long term no matter what, that is why I think it is quite obvious that if you end up with gambling a lot, you should know that you will lose.

However with that knowledge, you still gamble and end up losing, that means you knew the risks and still gambled and still lost a lot of money hence it should be easily labeled as lack of control, there is nothing else that we should be calling this. There is really nothing wrong with gambling, as long as you do not lose control and take the controls in your hand.

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Quote from: Alucard1 on March 17, 2021, 07:33:18 AM

I don't believe in fate or something like that, it is you to decide what will be your future. You are not in fate to win gambling, it is your knowledge and strategy that you have put into the games. I just notice on some gamblers that whenever they have lost in a game they just keep on saying that it is not their day or it is not their lucky day even though they have played a skilled based gambling which requires skills and technique to win the game and not only in luck.

Every gambler has the game cycle, whenever they have lost they keep on playing because of thinking that they could turn back the money that has lost which I always want to avoid on my side because sometimes it just turns up into an empty pocket.

That would make you do the right approach which is a realistic one.

I'm positive in gambling and understand the risk also.

If I win big time then I would say that is my fate and gambling will change my life, however if the opposite will happen, I would not call it a fate or something, instead, I would accept that I made a mistake and I need to improve my strategy to win, I would only stop gambling if I realize that I don't have any chance anymore.

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I don't believe in fate or something like that, it is you to decide what will be your future. You are not in fate to win gambling, it is your knowledge and strategy that you have put into the games. I just notice on some gamblers that whenever they have lost in a game they just keep on saying that it is not their day or it is not their lucky day even though they have played a skilled based gambling which requires skills and technique to win the game and not only in luck.

Every gambler has the game cycle, whenever they have lost they keep on playing because of thinking that they could turn back the money that has lost which I always want to avoid on my side because sometimes it just turns up into an empty pocket.

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Quote from: Genemind on March 17, 2021, 12:08:38 AM

Whenever we lose we always blame luck on it.

Not me though, I don't think that luck is a big factor in winning or let's just say I don't rely on luck.

As a gambler, I want to achieve some consistency and that is by winning most of the time, and have the right bankroll management.
I would not think it's easy but with proper control, it's achievable and one day I'll be able to not only become discipline in bankroll management but I would also become a profitable gambler.

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Quote from: Genemind on March 17, 2021, 12:08:38 AM

Whenever we lose we always blame luck on it. I would say it is more on lack of self-control when we tend to spend more time gambling we always aim to win and we are eager to win more. Just observe, the longer you play the more you become greedy, we always start at the lowest bet we can to warm-up as time goes by our bet increases, we lose, then we chase for our losses. By the end of the day all your money is gone, it is not because of lack, it is because of poor bank-roll management and greed.

yeah it's a fact that we always put our losses in the category of bad luck, it's because nobody thinks that every loss has a cause and a reason and I think if everybody start thinking about their blunders, they would definitely be experts. As I observed many gamblers they have no self control and no limit that's why they always lose a big amount of money.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 15, 2021, 02:38:14 PM

Quote from: stadus on March 15, 2021, 08:28:51 AM

Quote from: STT on March 15, 2021, 07:55:35 AM

If you believe in fate, be consistent in your attitude in that if you believe it is preset then you should also schedule your budget so it too is preset beforehand then if you win you did so in a way that was always going to happen. If you run out of money then it was also too meant to be and there is no reason to extend beyond your planned expenditure, in this way believing in fate could be a positive attitude if you are able to be consistent in an approach.

Consistent in your strategy in gambling.

Winning is always our main goal and therefore we have to make a strategy that could help us consistently win, otherwise we are just wasting money if we are not having fun at all. Gambling should be treated like a serious job or a business, you invest on it, so manage it properly.

Fate is good if you do the right strategy, it's not if you are gambling irresponsibly, you just choose between the two.

The main motto is win, so everyone will be in-search of possible opportunities to make it happen. This is where we need to think of luck and fate in a combined manner. We could've made a good strategy that can give assured success, but it happens in the opposite way at the much important time of our gambling. This leads to lack of control and affect the entire calculation. So, if the fate is to win then even the failed strategy will bring success.

I'm afraid luck and fate cannot be combined or you cannot rely on at the same time. Luck is a passive thing while fate in an active thing, meaning, luck will just randomly gives you good opportunity while fate depends on what you're going to decide for best result. What leads us to a lack of control is our fate (destiny) in gambling since it's all man-made. Poor decision making to be specific, is the one that makes us lose our profits in the long run.

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Quote from: Genemind on March 17, 2021, 12:08:38 AM

Whenever we lose we always blame luck on it. I would say it is more on lack of self-control when we tend to spend more time gambling we always aim to win and we are eager to win more. Just observe, the longer you play the more you become greedy, we always start at the lowest bet we can to warm-up as time goes by our bet increases, we lose, then we chase for our losses. By the end of the day all your money is gone, it is not because of lack, it is because of poor bank-roll management and greed.

It goes both ways, if we win we also shouldn't credit luck because we are not lucky, the probability landed on where you put your money in so there is no luck there. I always assume that people who blames unseen forces their failings in life that they are also the kind of people that believes what a politicians promise, take responsibility for your mistakes, the unseen forces doesn't care enough about a small universe dust for them to intervene.

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Whenever we lose we always blame luck on it. I would say it is more on lack of self-control when we tend to spend more time gambling we always aim to win and we are eager to win more. Just observe, the longer you play the more you become greedy, we always start at the lowest bet we can to warm-up as time goes by our bet increases, we lose, then we chase for our losses. By the end of the day all your money is gone, it is not because of lack, it is because of poor bank-roll management and greed.

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Quote from: maydna on March 16, 2021, 10:44:16 PM

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Quote from: maydna on March 15, 2021, 11:23:37 PM

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Lack of self-control = almost automatic lose
Lack of Luck = automatic lose.

Even though we have a strategy when we aren't lucky enough or we don't have that self control that we need in gambling, losing is almost inevitable. Well, gamblers are gambling either for fun or profit but most of them are gambling because of money. Winning on gambling isn't easy because I have experienced it. I gambled on this one app where its kinda like dice. I already have a strategy but in the end, I lose all of my money because of lack of luck. No regrets from my side since I expected it to happen already

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We all have the experience of losing money in gambling games, and we know that luck will not come easily to us, no matter we have a great strategy. We should consider that gambling is just part of life and having fun, so we do not need to think to play hard to win because that will not easy. If we already thought that gambling could make us losing money, we will be ready if somehow we lose it in the gambling game. But we will prevent or limit the money that we will use to gamble because we do not want to see us lose all of the money.

it's the thought that we'd win more money after winning a little that makes us lose. but it's all combination of all, you are just unlucky and do not know when to stop.
there are gamblers who won huge amounts to one casino and then move to another casino to try the same strategy to another casino, this is almost like not stopping while winning. gambling is risky enough but pushing it harder will result in a different thing.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on March 16, 2021, 02:47:53 AM

Quote from: maydna on March 15, 2021, 11:23:37 PM

~snip~

Lack of self-control = almost automatic lose
Lack of Luck = automatic lose.

Even though we have a strategy when we aren't lucky enough or we don't have that self control that we need in gambling, losing is almost inevitable. Well, gamblers are gambling either for fun or profit but most of them are gambling because of money. Winning on gambling isn't easy because I have experienced it. I gambled on this one app where its kinda like dice. I already have a strategy but in the end, I lose all of my money because of lack of luck. No regrets from my side since I expected it to happen already

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We all have the experience of losing money in gambling games, and we know that luck will not come easily to us, no matter we have a great strategy. We should consider that gambling is just part of life and having fun, so we do not need to think to play hard to win because that will not easy. If we already thought that gambling could make us losing money, we will be ready if somehow we lose it in the gambling game. But we will prevent or limit the money that we will use to gamble because we do not want to see us lose all of the money.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on March 16, 2021, 12:10:32 AM

Fate by definition is the development of events beyond a person's control, regarded as determined by a supernatural power. So saying that fate is base on our action is not true because we don't have control over it as the definition says so, I do agree with you about blaming ourselves for our actions because I have heard of the excuses which do not take responsibility and I am tired of hearing that.

It is inevitable so if it's about to come, it will come. That's the definition of fate and if your fate is to win today, then that will only happen if you're going to gamble. And that's the control that we have to know about it because we must do it for the fate to happen.
It may be beyond our control but we're still part of the need to initiate the action for it to happen. And to those that don't take responsibility of their own actions, they can't accept that it's them that are doing things according to their fate.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 15, 2021, 02:38:14 PM

Quote from: stadus on March 15, 2021, 08:28:51 AM

Quote from: STT on March 15, 2021, 07:55:35 AM

If you believe in fate, be consistent in your attitude in that if you believe it is preset then you should also schedule your budget so it too is preset beforehand then if you win you did so in a way that was always going to happen. If you run out of money then it was also too meant to be and there is no reason to extend beyond your planned expenditure, in this way believing in fate could be a positive attitude if you are able to be consistent in an approach.

Consistent in your strategy in gambling.

Winning is always our main goal and therefore we have to make a strategy that could help us consistently win, otherwise we are just wasting money if we are not having fun at all. Gambling should be treated like a serious job or a business, you invest on it, so manage it properly.

Fate is good if you do the right strategy, it's not if you are gambling irresponsibly, you just choose between the two.

The main motto is win, so everyone will be in-search of possible opportunities to make it happen. This is where we need to think of luck and fate in a combined manner. We could've made a good strategy that can give assured success, but it happens in the opposite way at the much important time of our gambling. This leads to lack of control and affect the entire calculation. So, if the fate is to win then even the failed strategy will bring success.

Correct! but fate could really be affected from time to time depending on things that you have done but i do really believe that fate and luck is just totally the same because you wont really
win no matter how good your strategy is when luck or fate doesnt permit you in the first place this is why it do always come in random and thats why people would really be believe that everything
is really on chance and some do think that strategies do really work out if they do make use the best of it.Lack of control is one of the common factors that will affect your
probabilities of winning or worsening up the situation.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

It's not pure luck or fate when you lose or win but it depends upon the strategies and plans you are using to defend your position in the game.

I don't know why Some people accept it as a fate when the truth is most of our losing is from our greedy mind .
We tend to win big and big and this is the reason why we lose.

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You need to understand what move other player is going to make and you can show your cards accordingly to his particular move.

This is a General discussion and not just a card game , there are gambling that you has no opponent but the banker .

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Sometimes your strategy works and sometimes it don't work.So you can't blame yourself or your fate for your loss.

You can blame your self because most times you lose because you did not stand earlier, you seek for much high wins.

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I would suggest its 60-40 game which means 60% is your tactics and skills how to play and rest 40% is your fate and if they both are in your favour you would definitely win.Try all the possible outcomes before applying your plans and then continue playing.

Don't consider fate because this is not existing in gambling.

just pure skills and of course Luck.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on March 16, 2021, 02:47:53 AM

Quote from: maydna on March 15, 2021, 11:23:37 PM

Winning in gambling is the reason for the most gambler who playing gambling, but not all of them will think about winning on the gambling as they will know that is not easy to win on the gambling games. Yes, we can make a strategy to win, but we should remember that we need to have the luck to win, so no matter how good your strategy, if you don't have luck, that will not be possible to win. Besides that, inside of playing gambling itself must have control of ourselves because that will be important to us to manage our money because we don't want to lose that money in the short term.

Lack of self-control = almost automatic lose
Lack of Luck = automatic lose.

Even though we have a strategy when we aren't lucky enough or we don't have that self control that we need in gambling, losing is almost inevitable. Well, gamblers are gambling either for fun or profit but most of them are gambling because of money. Winning on gambling isn't easy because I have experienced it. I gambled on this one app where its kinda like dice. I already have a strategy but in the end, I lose all of my money because of lack of luck. No regrets from my side since I expected it to happen already

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There are people thinking that their fate are already written on their like that they going to win most of the gambling they sitted or playing. Gambling is just for the people who have full confidence and guts to win the game if you are strong enough and ready to take win or loss the game I think you are already matured.

Some people would like to wage all of their haves. "all or nothing". They want to risk everything just to take back their losses which are not appreciate they don't have any cut losses to their winning and losses this kind of mindset will burn them immediately to debt and downward net worth of income.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

It's not pure luck or fate when you lose or win but it depends upon the strategies and plans you are using to defend your position in the game.You need to understand what move other player is going to make and you can show your cards accordingly to his particular move.Sometimes your strategy works and sometimes it don't work.So you can't blame yourself or your fate for your loss.I would suggest its 60-40 game which means 60% is your tactics and skills how to play and rest 40% is your fate and if they both are in your favour you would definitely win.Try all the possible outcomes before applying your plans and then continue playing.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

I will never let myself accept this thing , that it is my fate losing ? lol if you Know when to exit and feel your luck if there or not?

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Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

Fate in winning is another wrong beliefs because our Wins came from at least Luck or strategy .
and we are the only one who can tell and decide that.

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What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

Self control is our weapon in gambling , so if you don't know how to use this then you will be a loser forever.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling.

It's not fate. Luck plays a part in many games, certainly, but fate does not. It is, as you say, a mechanism that people use to pacify themselves, to move responsibility for the loss away from themselves and onto something else, onto the universe as a whole. Saying that an outcome was due to fate is the same as saying "it's not my fault that I lost"... when it clearly would be your fault if you lost due to your own poor judgement, and if you lost due to bad luck, then you were just unlucky this time and perhaps bet too big given the mathematics. Luck tends to even out over time. Fate plays no part in gambling. An erroneous belief in fate, however, can certainly influence your mental state... as the false idea of a winning or a lucky streak can lead you into bad decisions.

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Quote from: maydna on March 15, 2021, 11:23:37 PM

Winning in gambling is the reason for the most gambler who playing gambling, but not all of them will think about winning on the gambling as they will know that is not easy to win on the gambling games. Yes, we can make a strategy to win, but we should remember that we need to have the luck to win, so no matter how good your strategy, if you don't have luck, that will not be possible to win. Besides that, inside of playing gambling itself must have control of ourselves because that will be important to us to manage our money because we don't want to lose that money in the short term.

Lack of self-control = almost automatic lose
Lack of Luck = automatic lose.

Even though we have a strategy when we aren't lucky enough or we don't have that self control that we need in gambling, losing is almost inevitable. Well, gamblers are gambling either for fun or profit but most of them are gambling because of money. Winning on gambling isn't easy because I have experienced it. I gambled on this one app where its kinda like dice. I already have a strategy but in the end, I lose all of my money because of lack of luck. No regrets from my side since I expected it to happen already

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