Fate or lack of control - Gambling - page 25.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on March 15, 2021, 07:13:42 AM

Quote from: Kittygalore on March 15, 2021, 07:09:57 AM

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I agree with this, that's exactly what we have to feel, don't blame others instead blame ourselves if we make mistakes in gambling. Fate is based on our action, we have to be responsible so we can ensure we will not lose a lot of money in gambling, or money that is not intended in gambling.

Our fate might not be good in gambling but we can always prevent that by being responsible all the time.

Fate by definition is the development of events beyond a person's control, regarded as determined by a supernatural power. So saying that fate is base on our action is not true because we don't have control over it as the definition says so, I do agree with you about blaming ourselves for our actions because I have heard of the excuses which do not take responsibility and I am tired of hearing that.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 15, 2021, 02:38:14 PM

Quote from: stadus on March 15, 2021, 08:28:51 AM

Quote from: STT on March 15, 2021, 07:55:35 AM

If you believe in fate, be consistent in your attitude in that if you believe it is preset then you should also schedule your budget so it too is preset beforehand then if you win you did so in a way that was always going to happen. If you run out of money then it was also too meant to be and there is no reason to extend beyond your planned expenditure, in this way believing in fate could be a positive attitude if you are able to be consistent in an approach.

Consistent in your strategy in gambling.

Winning is always our main goal and therefore we have to make a strategy that could help us consistently win, otherwise we are just wasting money if we are not having fun at all. Gambling should be treated like a serious job or a business, you invest on it, so manage it properly.

Fate is good if you do the right strategy, it's not if you are gambling irresponsibly, you just choose between the two.

The main motto is win, so everyone will be in-search of possible opportunities to make it happen. This is where we need to think of luck and fate in a combined manner. We could've made a good strategy that can give assured success, but it happens in the opposite way at the much important time of our gambling. This leads to lack of control and affect the entire calculation. So, if the fate is to win then even the failed strategy will bring success.

Winning in gambling is the reason for the most gambler who playing gambling, but not all of them will think about winning on the gambling as they will know that is not easy to win on the gambling games. Yes, we can make a strategy to win, but we should remember that we need to have the luck to win, so no matter how good your strategy, if you don't have luck, that will not be possible to win. Besides that, inside of playing gambling itself must have control of ourselves because that will be important to us to manage our money because we don't want to lose that money in the short term.

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Quote from: stadus on March 15, 2021, 08:28:51 AM

Quote from: STT on March 15, 2021, 07:55:35 AM

If you believe in fate, be consistent in your attitude in that if you believe it is preset then you should also schedule your budget so it too is preset beforehand then if you win you did so in a way that was always going to happen. If you run out of money then it was also too meant to be and there is no reason to extend beyond your planned expenditure, in this way believing in fate could be a positive attitude if you are able to be consistent in an approach.

Consistent in your strategy in gambling.

Winning is always our main goal and therefore we have to make a strategy that could help us consistently win, otherwise we are just wasting money if we are not having fun at all. Gambling should be treated like a serious job or a business, you invest on it, so manage it properly.

Fate is good if you do the right strategy, it's not if you are gambling irresponsibly, you just choose between the two.

The main motto is win, so everyone will be in-search of possible opportunities to make it happen. This is where we need to think of luck and fate in a combined manner. We could've made a good strategy that can give assured success, but it happens in the opposite way at the much important time of our gambling. This leads to lack of control and affect the entire calculation. So, if the fate is to win then even the failed strategy will bring success.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling.

Yes, there is fate in gambling and in life. That is why you have bad and good days.

Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big.

Greed. Take away greed then you have control lol Grin

Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side.

Do you know you can also run out of luck even when operating in a perceived lucky side? So, most times gambling is all about win and lose and the amount of money you win or lose depends on the level of risk you take too

Quote from: Vaculin on March 15, 2021, 07:48:12 AM

it really happened but if we lose more than we can afford to lose, that's because of our lack of control and we choose that fate,

Nope... When you bet more than you can bear to lose , is not lack of control but greed Grin

Greed in gambling is when you aim higher than necessary or continue to aim for win rather than existing.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on March 15, 2021, 07:49:58 AM

You're right but gambling and responsibility hardly go hand by hand. Leaning towards fate would imply that we have no power on our actions and that would sound like an easy gambler's justification.
That's not true because for the most part, gamblers are the sole responsible actors for their actions.

We're still the one who will decide whether we're going to win or lose. Fate may be there but if we don't have strategy or discipline to decide where to bet and how to control our betting amount or game we can't fully use the opportunity given if we're lucky. This two will go hand by hand but only the players can fully decide how to make the most out of it.

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Quote from: STT on March 15, 2021, 07:55:35 AM

If you believe in fate, be consistent in your attitude in that if you believe it is preset then you should also schedule your budget so it too is preset beforehand then if you win you did so in a way that was always going to happen. If you run out of money then it was also too meant to be and there is no reason to extend beyond your planned expenditure, in this way believing in fate could be a positive attitude if you are able to be consistent in an approach.

Consistent in your strategy in gambling.

Winning is always our main goal and therefore we have to make a strategy that could help us consistently win, otherwise we are just wasting money if we are not having fun at all. Gambling should be treated like a serious job or a business, you invest on it, so manage it properly.

Fate is good if you do the right strategy, it's not if you are gambling irresponsibly, you just choose between the two.

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If you believe in fate, be consistent in your attitude in that if you believe it is preset then you should also schedule your budget so it too is preset beforehand then if you win you did so in a way that was always going to happen. If you run out of money then it was also too meant to be and there is no reason to extend beyond your planned expenditure, in this way believing in fate could be a positive attitude if you are able to be consistent in an approach.

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You're right but gambling and responsibility hardly go hand by hand. Leaning towards fate would imply that we have no power on our actions and that would sound like an easy gambler's justification.
That's not true because for the most part, gamblers are the sole responsible actors for their actions.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on March 15, 2021, 07:13:42 AM

Our fate might not be good in gambling but we can always prevent that by being responsible all the time.

There are only two outcome, we can lose or we can win, if we lose that's okay as its part of game, it really happened but if we lose more than we can afford to lose, that's because of our lack of control and we choose that fate, not that it was given to us without our consent.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on March 15, 2021, 07:09:57 AM

I would lean on lack of control instead of fate because people who blames the things we can't see is not a sign of a responsible human being, I mean if it were fate, then that means that there was no other way for you to stop gambling because your actions were already set and you can't do anything about it which is pretty shitty reason for you to become an addict. Imagine hearing a gambling addict or any addict for that matter, "It's fate that I can't stop what I'm doing", you would think that they are going crazy. This is the same as luck, there is no luck in gambling, it was all just probability and chances, you just happen to be in the right place.

I agree with this, that's exactly what we have to feel, don't blame others instead blame ourselves if we make mistakes in gambling. Fate is based on our action, we have to be responsible so we can ensure we will not lose a lot of money in gambling, or money that is not intended in gambling.

Our fate might not be good in gambling but we can always prevent that by being responsible all the time.

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I would lean on lack of control instead of fate because people who blames the things we can't see is not a sign of a responsible human being, I mean if it were fate, then that means that there was no other way for you to stop gambling because your actions were already set and you can't do anything about it which is pretty shitty reason for you to become an addict. Imagine hearing a gambling addict or any addict for that matter, "It's fate that I can't stop what I'm doing", you would think that they are going crazy. This is the same as luck, there is no luck in gambling, it was all just probability and chances, you just happen to be in the right place.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on March 11, 2021, 08:55:42 PM

I personally believe that huge losses are caused by people lacking the self-control needed to mitigate these losses. It's always guaranteed that when you gamble, at some point you will incur losses, and it is up to you the gambler, on how you will act about it. Wise and responsible gamblers will think twice about gambling more, not because they are cowards, but because they know they can only gamble money that they can afford to lose.

That is the only logical explanation, we know that over the long term thanks to the house edge the casino is going to win more than the player, and personally I don't have any problem with that because casinos are a business and they need to win money, the problem is that some people have lack of control and once they lose an amount of money that they did not expect to lose they keep betting trying to get it back only to lose even more money in the process.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on March 11, 2021, 01:58:41 PM

Exit strategy would really vary no matte what kind of gambling game you've been playing because if you do really intent to make out profits then seeing gains or profit will be your outmost priority.

Fate is something that you do mold on depending on what actions you've been doing and if you do put emphasis with that luck smartly then you could really be ending up on profits in the end of the day.

Dont mind on how to trick up or trying to beat the system specially on dice because this is heavily relying with luck no matter how hard you do try because this isnt something that
can be done if luck isnt really on your side.

I totally agree with you.

People mostly often losses their money because of being prideful, what I mean is they don't want to accept defeat and will going to compete head on against the gambling site even though it's crystal clear that he cannot best the house, for me it's immature and will not help you evolve in the world of gambling especially if you are pursuing to be a professional gambler or making profits in gambling everyday.

I think admitting your defeat, reflecting on what you've done for you to lose your money is a great way to come up with a strategy that will give you profits instead of heartaches. And what I mean in profits is every small amount of the money you've won, appreciate it.

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It is lack of control and lack of understanding of the concept of expected value or mathematical expectation. There is no such thing as luck, betting results are pure mathematics. Another thing is that gambling has a high emotional component and many times people lose control.

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I agree.That is the main reason of losing money,the lack of control and letting your emotions decide for you.I have been at that stage and the way I have come out of addiction is I set a really small limit for gambling and if I lose I stop there,if I win I save that money for buying a graphic card for mining later by adding also some money from my pocket.

Good for you that you are slowly recovering from your addiction too, my advise is with incremental decrease in the money that you are spending in gambling, try to do some shock decrease on what you are spending from time to time, make it random so you don't have any chance of losing progress. Good luck on getting that graphics card that you want to save, I hope that you are getting close to your goal.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on March 14, 2021, 11:13:58 PM

Pretty obvious that the reason that you are losing big time is that you lack control, believing in fate makes you just think that we don't have any free will in the first place although free will is debatable, I don't think that we should blaming and crediting our actions to invisible forces because it shows that we lack the ability to be someone that is responsible.

I agree.That is the main reason of losing money,the lack of control and letting your emotions decide for you.I have been at that stage and the way I have come out of addiction is I set a really small limit for gambling and if I lose I stop there,if I win I save that money for buying a graphic card for mining later by adding also some money from my pocket.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on March 14, 2021, 12:59:42 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 AM

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

Some may dice gamblers have their emotional expression when dealing on playing dice game, some people actually play it out for fun while some eagerly take it as a way of making their dream of becoming millionaire come through, irrespective of all these emotions attached to dice, the results seems to be different, sometimes the person playing for fun becomes the millionaire.

Lol Dice to become their dreams come true Grin

Why not Lottery ? it is more higher jackpot and also a Luck base game like Dice Shocked

Yups , it is Luck that dictates the outcome so Either fun player or serious gambler may win .

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From the very start I started playing dice game and other casinos especially plinko, slot, I discovered that there is no strategy used, it's a game of luck, playing dice without control yourself gets you run out of your portfolio. Some people say professionals play better which is not actually true, they loose various times, but what makes them professional is because they can control their emotions, not become tense over some unexpected lost.

There are few that May manage to win with strategy but surely 99% relies on their Luck and also chance of hitting Jackpot is very tin.

Best to play for Fun and Happiness and if you win then that's only for Bonus .

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Pretty obvious that the reason that you are losing big time is that you lack control, believing in fate makes you just think that we don't have any free will in the first place although free will is debatable, I don't think that we should blaming and crediting our actions to invisible forces because it shows that we lack the ability to be someone that is responsible.

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Quote from: virasisog on March 13, 2021, 09:21:59 AM

Be it fate or lack of control, gambling g for too long even with luck on your side will result to lose. The house always wins, whatever strategy or what you do you will get busted. I remember gambling for a whole day and winning most of the time, as we spend more time in gambling g we tend to be getting greedier which is why most gamblers end their days with losses.

I consider that a lack of control because if you lose control in the gambling games, you will lose the money you already won before. At the end of the game, the house will get the money from the gamblers. Although the gambler can win from the other game, the house will take the biggest winning from many losing of the gambler. I agree that if we play for a longer time and win much money, the greed inside us will become bigger, leading us to spend more money without thinking about stop the game.

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Quote from: Fredomago on March 14, 2021, 08:39:54 AM

Rely with self control, this is really important when playing luck base gambling

Quote from: aioc on March 14, 2021, 12:54:18 AM

Fate is you are going to lose when playing Dice the house edge is killing the hope of every player, control is something you should cultivate if you want to have a chance in Dice, don't rely on fate rely on your self-control, it will win you money and will prevent you from losing a lot.

I've tried playing DICE, but with great greed. Without relying on my financial controls, I lost all the money I deposited on one of the famous sites. It's true, we have to put self-control number one. I lost my self-control because once the deposit immediately won 10% trying to return to the max bet with the hope of getting a 50% profit, as a result, I won it and greedily hoped to get 100% tonight I finally lost all my money. This is one of my stories that don't use self-control in dice games.

Greed accompanied with loss of self control always makes negative effects on gambling. There are very few gamblers who had succeeded out of the greed. Looking upon those gamblers, some believe the same could happen to us. In reality it won't happen, and some follow the successful gamblers. No use of doing it, because the luck between the two were completely different. It is all about luck that determines win on dice.

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