Topic: Fate or lack of control - Gambling - page 30. (Read 12319 times)

I don't believe in "fate". So this is just luck. But the term "luck of control" as for me (if i understood it correctly) is also very weird. How can you control of your luck? You're lucky or not, there is no third option for this.

Dice is the game about pure luck. The same as you can win 1000 in a row, the same you can lose.

I don't consider it also as fate because you are making your decisions here.
And whatever the results of your game is the outcome of your decisions.
I don't want to use the destiny when it comes to gambling.
Because it is your choice to go into gambling in the first place.

In my opinion, when this is something that can be changed based on our performance, then it cannot be completely destined. If a little bit of destiny, yes, we just like to make ourselves calm in the gambling defeat.
Like luck in gambling, of course not every time this happens and maybe only a few people experience it.
In my opinion, when gambling, it is more about strategy and technique and accuracy when playing. Even though sometimes the results are not as expected or even beyond expectations, at least the process we are working on is one of the reasons for the results.

There is no such thing as fate. If you lose big then you only have yourself to blame. Maybe you learn a lesson from this and you believe it was meant to be because now it empowers you to get your gambling habit under control. You can perceive it however you want as long as you can take responsibility for your actions.

I agree with the opinions of some people here that it really depends on whether you believe in fate or not.

If you go for the romanticized concept of fate, then everything you do can be considered fate. I dislike that idea because I want to own my successes and my mistakes. So I have more of a pragmatic view, which would apply to gambling on any game really.

It's important to understand that most online casino games these days, unless they're rigged, provide completely random results. In that regard, I'd say luck and fate are when you hit a prize even though maybe 10 people before you didn't. However, control is when you cash out your winnings or stop playing after your playing budget for the day is spent.

If players accept gambling as part of their life and as a hobby, they can set a daily or weekly budget for it. Sticking to this budget is what determines whether you'll be lucky or not, whether fate will be on your side or against you. Why? Well, if you lose, then that's what you already planned to lose when you created your gambling budget. If you win and withdraw, that's clear profit.

This is just my take on the concept. Of course, everyone has their own opinions and views. It's interesting reading other people's replies and I'm excited to see where this conversation will go. 

I've started this thread only after trying out the martingale strategy. Myself had around $680 worth of bitcoin. Started with a bet value of $1 with roll above 50.50 which gives a 2X on win. At the end the bet value of mine was $64. Myself encountered a continuous losing streak of $32 for three rolls. This made me get back the lost amount and the same made me double the bet value. Further I got a win on the roll and consecutive three more roll loss of $64. So in a very short time period $680 got emptied.

Most likely it's lack of control because I notice a lot of gamblers that play other games go through these scenarios as well when they go on a big (win or lose) streak trying to make up for their previous losses. With that said it's either feast or famine there's no in between as you struggle to accept the loss and like you've said already even if you do end up winning the lack of control could simply fan the flames on the current situation.

Bad luck and no self-control is the worst xombo a gambler might have in his gambling exploits. If you have both of these whenever you gamble, the end result would always be you losing, even if the bad luck somehow turned towards your favor. I wouldn't really think of it as fate, or it's already destined for me to lose. I could control that by immediately stopping if I know that I'm already in a bad spot. If I lose a lot, it will not be destiny's fault but rather myself since I allowed it to happen in the first place.

In my opinion it all comes down to believing in fate or not. I would say that we have to make our own luck and fate. Because what would be the reasons that we are losing and other people are winning? I understand that when we are losing it is frustrating and we are looking for explations why. Saying that it is fate we are losing gives away the responsibility to someone else. It would be better to look for specific flaws first and try to understand why we are losing. Maybe there is something wrong with out strategy, or our bankroll wasn't big enough to start with. Everybody is losing from time to time, it is on us to handle our losses better.

There is no exit strategy... I mean you can withdraw, but what stop you to deposit later? You either have control or you don't have... And why we continue to gamble after we made some profit? Is it greediness? Maybe higher goals? Whatever it is, the same happens to many of us occasionally... we make a profit x2, x3, or more, but instead of withdrawing we continue to gamble and we lose all!
When it comes to dices I rarely play manually, I get out of control with my bets, and I either make a nice profit or I get busted, real gambling with many all ins... so I like to play with auto, I like long-run strategies, and I try to improve them as I play them for days and look what is missing! With auto there's no lack of control or fate, I like to believe it's all math!

Exit strategy would really vary no matte what kind of gambling game you've been playing because if you do really intent to make out profits then seeing gains or profit will be your outmost priority.

Fate is something that you do mold on depending on what actions you've been doing and if you do put emphasis with that luck smartly then you could really be ending up on profits in the end of the day.

Dont mind on how to trick up or trying to beat the system specially on dice because this is heavily relying with luck no matter how hard you do try because this isnt something that
can be done if luck isnt really on your side.

Trick ?
Strategy?
I do not think these would work at all since now the online gambling games have become even more intelligent they have developed their bots in a way that they are already aware of all the possible outcomes and at the end if the player is winning big he should stop and take their money out honestly!! You have to understand for a fact that these situations might not be true 100% of the time. I do believe that at the end of the day they are always luck based. You can calculate probability and at the same time wager safely that would give you small returns in the end.  But I do believe that people should not rely on strategies since most of them needs a lot of investment and time which could go wrong any minute.  Some strategies only work for long time bets. Therefore I do believe that if you see you are loosing a lot you need to stop. That's dependent on your at the end of the day.

When it comes to situations then you are actually doing your own fate because this thing can really be altered out depending on what actions you've been doing.
I can actually tell that luck is just a temporal kind of situation where things do really abide you on being lucky in things you've been dealing with and its not
permanent no matter how many times you had changed up situation its still really be coming in random.It is just on how a certain person do control and utilize.
If you do chose to play further and without proper exit strategy then you would really be having that common ending scenario on where most gamblers do end up.

I believe both theories but on different situations when I win really big and cash it out, I take credit on my pure fate and thank it, but when I win big and then start to lose control, then a part of me tells me I'm ruining my own fate with lack of control and if I actually lose my money, I blame it completely on fate like a punching back xD

Are you guys trying to predict what's the outcome of your play in gambling especially in dice?

AFAIK none of us can make a certain guess but you can do some martingale strategy if you wish to make your fate more challenging but the risk is also high. Well, high risk is equal to high return too if luck is in your favor and if your only problem is how to control yourself from betting and betting even if you win already, I think you have to make a strategy after winning—an exit strategy.

And also bring money only that you can afford to lose and don't let emotions get into you even if you win or lose, small or big, never ever let emotions get into you.

There is what we call a 'gambler's cycle', wherein whenever a gambler bets and he wins/losses, the result would most likely force him to gamble again. He would gamble again due to either a streak of luck or to the hope of ending his losing streak. Either way, the gambler continues to gamble despite the circumstances he faces.

That is why, self-control and discipline is the key in order to at least mitigate your losses and maximize your winnings. Try your very best to fight the urge of betting again whenever you win/lose and that will actually save you money in the long run.

Fate means your destiny, and your destiny will be always yours to make, so if you lose in gambling, it is your fault, not your fate. It's more acceptable to say that a gambler losses his money because of lack of control that leads to huge losses in the long run.

If he'll say that it is his fate so it is unavoidable to happen, that's just him making an excuse to gamble again with the same habit that he has when he started playing gambling. I think greed is the one to be blame here, because that's what destroys most of us to make a strong decision, it's what gives us second thoughts whether to quit or not when we are winning.

And most of the time, we always shares the same fate because of greed.

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake.