Fate or lack of control - Gambling - page 7.

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It's always a lack of control, if you have a control to yourself you wouldn't be able to lose so much in gambling since you would be able to control yourself to stop playing well if someone managed to master this kind of behavior or skill the user would be able to control his losses and won't spend too much and end up losing all their money.

It's not hard to control yourself in gambling, I believe, majority of gamblers are responsible, yes, they maybe lose some money but they are enjoying. If getting out of control is a major problem, then we should not be seeing gambling operators still up now, that's the logic.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on July 02, 2021, 06:54:37 PM

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But if a player can afford to lose, for example, $ 10 million, then it is obvious that during the game he will win one million at least once, right? I think this is quite easy to achieve and it is a large sum. But I am 100% sure that after such a win, this player continues to play and this is explained by the dependence on the game process.

Game process keeps the gambler active and move forward for the big win. Having self control and the learning about the right time to exit will help in making profit. Very few will succeed, even with $10 similar is the situation. Myself with the last weeks payment gambled and made it to $300, but as it is said I went for a regular earning expectation. Here my fund started to lower and I wasn't able to reach you what I aimed. Went for high roll and lost everything.

It turns out that you started playing with about 60 dollars?
You managed to increase your deposit by 5 times, this is a very good result, but why did you continue to play for the full amount? It would be wise to put $ 60 aside and play with the rest of the money.

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There's a reason why they gamble, they still want to win big as that's the ultimate purpose of gambling. No one in this world had an infinite amount of money even if we call them to reach, they still get excited and want to win, so in the process, they get addicted as they also have an ego especially if they are losing. Them not being able to control their emotion, that will lead them to bigger problems and that could result in bankruptcy.

and everything you say is connected with fate, that gambler is destined to be lucky and win in a few rounds but because he is greedy then his fate changes and he loses in the next round....fate, luck, and misfortune are like a unit that can't be separated, just how can we take advantage of our luck when it comes when we gamble.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 02, 2021, 06:02:23 PM

Quote from: Japinat on July 02, 2021, 05:51:10 PM

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It seems to me that the essence of addiction is not in the desire to win or to win back, but in the desire of the very process of the game, so your advice is unlikely to help anyone. As we know, even very rich people who do not need big winnings suffer from gambling addiction, they depend on the very process of the game.

There's a reason why they gamble, they still want to win big as that's the ultimate purpose of gambling. No one in this world had an infinite amount of money even if we call them to reach, they still get excited and want to win, so in the process, they get addicted as they also have an ego especially if they are losing. Them not being able to control their emotion, that will lead them to bigger problems and that could result in bankruptcy.

But if a player can afford to lose, for example, $ 10 million, then it is obvious that during the game he will win one million at least once, right? I think this is quite easy to achieve and it is a large sum. But I am 100% sure that after such a win, this player continues to play and this is explained by the dependence on the game process.

Game process keeps the gambler active and move forward for the big win. Having self control and the learning about the right time to exit will help in making profit. Very few will succeed, even with $10 similar is the situation. Myself with the last weeks payment gambled and made it to $300, but as it is said I went for a regular earning expectation. Here my fund started to lower and I wasn't able to reach you what I aimed. Went for high roll and lost everything.

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Quote from: Japinat on July 02, 2021, 05:51:10 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on June 30, 2021, 04:00:21 PM

It seems to me that the essence of addiction is not in the desire to win or to win back, but in the desire of the very process of the game, so your advice is unlikely to help anyone. As we know, even very rich people who do not need big winnings suffer from gambling addiction, they depend on the very process of the game.

There's a reason why they gamble, they still want to win big as that's the ultimate purpose of gambling. No one in this world had an infinite amount of money even if we call them to reach, they still get excited and want to win, so in the process, they get addicted as they also have an ego especially if they are losing. Them not being able to control their emotion, that will lead them to bigger problems and that could result in bankruptcy.

But if a player can afford to lose, for example, $ 10 million, then it is obvious that during the game he will win one million at least once, right? I think this is quite easy to achieve and it is a large sum. But I am 100% sure that after such a win, this player continues to play and this is explained by the dependence on the game process.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on June 30, 2021, 09:52:16 AM

For one to loose in gambling is actually their fate but when it comes to loosing big then lack of control which might even end up as addiction might set in. Most gamblers are way too greedy take the little winnings tommorow is another day but most of them would want to get back at the feeling everyday has the same level of luck when it comes to gambling if you are opportunied to win stick to it and come back another day.

It seems to me that the essence of addiction is not in the desire to win or to win back, but in the desire of the very process of the game, so your advice is unlikely to help anyone. As we know, even very rich people who do not need big winnings suffer from gambling addiction, they depend on the very process of the game.

There's a reason why they gamble, they still want to win big as that's the ultimate purpose of gambling. No one in this world had an infinite amount of money even if we call them to reach, they still get excited and want to win, so in the process, they get addicted as they also have an ego especially if they are losing. Them not being able to control their emotion, that will lead them to bigger problems and that could result in bankruptcy.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on June 30, 2021, 09:52:16 AM

For one to loose in gambling is actually their fate but when it comes to loosing big then lack of control which might even end up as addiction might set in. Most gamblers are way too greedy take the little winnings tommorow is another day but most of them would want to get back at the feeling everyday has the same level of luck when it comes to gambling if you are opportunied to win stick to it and come back another day.

It seems to me that the essence of addiction is not in the desire to win or to win back, but in the desire of the very process of the game, so your advice is unlikely to help anyone. As we know, even very rich people who do not need big winnings suffer from gambling addiction, they depend on the very process of the game.

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when you don't have luck and can't control your emotions when gambling indeed it will have a very fatal impact because of course you will experience doubts and not be able to think clearly and will only provide losses that can make you regret. so when you want to gamble, even if you don't have high luck, you should at least be able to control your emotions so you won't be easily influenced.

When you do find yourself to be impulsive not just only with simple things then better you should avoid gambling in the first place or as early as you can because that kind of behavior would really just make your situation even more worst and this doesnt only affect your financial state but other aspects in life you do have will surely be affected too.So you should be mindful about yourself and use up your own self awareness thing
because we do have our own will on how we do react on a specific situation on where we can see that it could really put us on harm.I dont believe about making your fate because everything in life
could really be on chances and of course the actions you do make will have corresponding results or outcomes that will happen.

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For one to loose in gambling is actually their fate but when it comes to loosing big then lack of control which might even end up as addiction might set in. Most gamblers are way too greedy take the little winnings tommorow is another day but most of them would want to get back at the feeling everyday has the same level of luck when it comes to gambling if you are opportunied to win stick to it and come back another day.

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Quote from: iv4n on June 27, 2021, 08:12:23 AM

I guess we should be disciplined all the time, but it's hard... especially when we are in a good mood and ready to risk what we have for some entertainment and possible big wins!

I guess I would be okay losing my control when I'm winning as I could end up winning a bit or losing all the money I have. Compared to out of control because you are losing, you could possibly add more money to gamble although you have already max out your limit, and because of that, it might result in bigger losses that you will regret for the rest of your life. We don't want to be in that situation, but because we got caught up in anger, we make a stupid decision.

In gambling, self-control and out-of-control will definitely exist and I think both are very important in betting and the most important thing is being able to place them at the right time.
and it all depends on the bet being played, self-control when betting always loses and loses control when supported by having a chance of winning and definitely winning to increase the bet or something.
and that is the discipline of playing, occupying what is felt at the right time, and yes it is difficult but if you get used to it then the results will be good.

Being out of control will never exist as log as you have self-control, in my opinion, because you'll always be careful about your bets and decision making, they can't exist both at the same time unless your self-control is not that strong versus the urge of playing carelessly.

And losing control is not the right term if you're winning, I meant you can't win if you're out of control, because being not in control means you don't have any strategy up your sleeves unless you're playing luck based games. To be able to win means you have to be in control of the game, never let the game control you.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on June 29, 2021, 05:31:59 PM

Fate has nothing to do concerning gambling,luck rather should be used in place of fate.As fate talks about future(destiny) luck talks about now.When a gambler Gamble's and looses,he plays again to get back his money,and when he wins,he thinks of winning more,forgeting that he may loose again,And so he continue playing till his money gets finished.

I don't really agree with your opinion, destiny and luck are connected to gambling too...

for example, in the future someone is destined to win when playing gambling in poker, So destiny has placed man where he is lucky in the future. Destiny and luck are really connected and can't be separated IMO.

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Fate has nothing to do concerning gambling,luck rather should be used in place of fate.As fate talks about future(destiny) luck talks about now.When a gambler Gamble's and looses,he plays again to get back his money,and when he wins,he thinks of winning more,forgeting that he may loose again,And so he continue playing till his money gets finished.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 11:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

The psychology of a gambler, or any addict for that matter, is quite simple. The brain has built connections and releases happy endorphins from the habit that has formed over time. Every time a gambler wins the rush of adrenaline creates the thrill that they want to replicate again and again. It is possible to unlearn these bad habits but often times a gambler feels defeated with all the losses they accrue over time and that is possibly the toughest bond they have to break - the money is gone and you need to let it go, there is no point chasing it. A gambler actually has it easier, well except for the financial loss, than certain drug addicts who made end up with heavy chemical dependencies that will cause physical sickness to manifest if they ever decide to quit.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on June 27, 2021, 01:40:06 PM

Agreed on the statement. I'm the one who shared the real experience. Emotions is the one that drives towards losing. When I make a win my mind says go further, and this is not out of greed. This is out of the mind believing in luck. At some point we'll start losing and the mind never accept it. So, while trying to reach the maximum amount on the wallet I used to empty my wallet.

I have a different experience. I have never seriously believed in the possibility of making a good amount of money in gambling, so I cannot say that greed bothered me (emotions associated with it). But I was addicted to the very process of the game - regardless of winning or losing, you experience some emotions and get used to them. I cannot say that this is an adrenaline addiction - definitely not, it is rather an addiction to solving crossword puzzles, since I usually try different strategies during the game. Therefore, for me gambling addiction is an addiction to emotions that you experience while researching/solving crosswords or some difficult problem.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on June 29, 2021, 11:44:35 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on June 27, 2021, 01:40:06 PM

Agreed on the statement. I'm the one who shared the real experience. Emotions is the one that drives towards losing. When I make a win my mind says go further, and this is not out of greed. This is out of the mind believing in luck. At some point we'll start losing and the mind never accept it. So, while trying to reach the maximum amount on the wallet I used to empty my wallet.

Gamblers should learn to accept the defeat. If you are unable to accept the losses then you are addicted to gambling. Cause it's one kind of symptoms of gambling addiction. However, try to control your emotions while you play. Last time you said that fate is the thing which caused for your loss. Actually, both luck and control are important for gambler.

definitely right, acceptance and knows your limitations, if you have this attitude you are not prone into addiction, gamblers who knows when to quit when it's needed mostly enjoyed this venue of entertainment, for some they can manage to bring some decent amount out from the house and enjoy their profits.

Like what you have just said, fate and luck if both allow you to win and you take the advantage, probably the outcome for you is really favorable, learn this things and continue to enhance your chance building good system for your own benefits.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on June 27, 2021, 01:40:06 PM

Agreed on the statement. I'm the one who shared the real experience. Emotions is the one that drives towards losing. When I make a win my mind says go further, and this is not out of greed. This is out of the mind believing in luck. At some point we'll start losing and the mind never accept it. So, while trying to reach the maximum amount on the wallet I used to empty my wallet.

Gamblers should learn to accept the defeat. If you are unable to accept the losses then you are addicted to gambling. Cause it's one kind of symptoms of gambling addiction. However, try to control your emotions while you play. Last time you said that fate is the thing which caused for your loss. Actually, both luck and control are important for gambler.

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Quote from: Rajamuda on June 27, 2021, 03:28:33 AM

However, basically we are like trying our luck at gambling, and from there we don't let that feeling accompany when gambling,if you are lucky you should continue to be able to control yourself and stay calm and be consistent in betting, here the cause of lack of control is due to emotion, emotions and greed can affect the pattern of the game, especially in the dice game.

But do not forget that we can lose control if we win because when you win, the passion will be bigger and we will want to get bigger money. Controlling yourself will always be the important thing that you must have in gambling. Otherwise, you will not control the money, and even the win money will also go. So we must control ourselves before something worst happen and we can not prevent it.

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Quote from: Rajamuda on June 27, 2021, 03:28:33 AM

However, basically we are like trying our luck at gambling, and from there we don't let that feeling accompany when gambling,if you are lucky you should continue to be able to control yourself and stay calm and be consistent in betting, here the cause of lack of control is due to emotion, emotions and greed can affect the pattern of the game, especially in the dice game.

Agreed on the statement. I'm the one who shared the real experience. Emotions is the one that drives towards losing. When I make a win my mind says go further, and this is not out of greed. This is out of the mind believing in luck. At some point we'll start losing and the mind never accept it. So, while trying to reach the maximum amount on the wallet I used to empty my wallet.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 27, 2021, 09:18:48 AM

Quote from: iv4n on June 27, 2021, 08:12:23 AM

I guess we should be disciplined all the time, but it's hard... especially when we are in a good mood and ready to risk what we have for some entertainment and possible big wins!

I guess I would be okay losing my control when I'm winning as I could end up winning a bit or losing all the money I have. Compared to out of control because you are losing, you could possibly add more money to gamble although you have already max out your limit, and because of that, it might result in bigger losses that you will regret for the rest of your life. We don't want to be in that situation, but because we got caught up in anger, we make a stupid decision.

In gambling, self-control and out-of-control will definitely exist and I think both are very important in betting and the most important thing is being able to place them at the right time.
and it all depends on the bet being played, self-control when betting always loses and loses control when supported by having a chance of winning and definitely winning to increase the bet or something.
and that is the discipline of playing, occupying what is felt at the right time, and yes it is difficult but if you get used to it then the results will be good.

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Quote from: iv4n on June 27, 2021, 08:12:23 AM

I guess we should be disciplined all the time, but it's hard... especially when we are in a good mood and ready to risk what we have for some entertainment and possible big wins!

I guess I would be okay losing my control when I'm winning as I could end up winning a bit or losing all the money I have. Compared to out of control because you are losing, you could possibly add more money to gamble although you have already max out your limit, and because of that, it might result in bigger losses that you will regret for the rest of your life. We don't want to be in that situation, but because we got caught up in anger, we make a stupid decision.

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