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September 11, 2021, 10:36:03 AM
Cheesy LMAO, there is no such thing is "fate" when it comes to gambling or anything period as far as I am concerned.  That's like using the saying "everything happens for a reason".  It amazes me that people literally believe that.  Gambling is two part..both skill and luck, but there is not fate involved. Let's be real here.

Actually, those people understand that there's no "Fate" when it comes to gambling.

It's just that they don't want to do a simple method to bet so they will do something fancy and supposed to be a trick to somehow lure that luck. Luck-based games such as dice, slots, roulettes, you can see people doing their respective chores before rolling the bet.

Let's not be serious if someone is using the term "fate" in their gambling sessions. Smiley
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September 11, 2021, 10:32:57 AM
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Losing their money for addicted gamblers is normal, but it is not enough for them to quit since they are forever hoping to win the dream jackpot, and that's enough for them to keep on betting even if it's mean to lose their money every single day. It is bad, generally, but we can't do anything about it since they made a decision to stick to their plan. We can't help them if they won't let us.

The only time you can help them is when the time comes that they realized that there is something wrong in their system, and they're ready to change it... Though this is the initial phase, and you as a person have minimal effect in their mindset, it always a good start for them.

If you will ask when is the time you will have a major effect?, the time is when they approach you and ask for your help or advice.

Cheesy LMAO, there is no such thing is "fate" when it comes to gambling or anything period as far as I am concerned.  That's like using the saying "everything happens for a reason".  It amazes me that people literally believe that.  Gambling is two part..both skill and luck, but there is not fate involved. Let's be real here.

The term fate that they use was a defense mechanism to minimize the damage they have after losing.
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September 11, 2021, 10:27:59 AM

Losing their money for addicted gamblers is normal, but it is not enough for them to quit since they are forever hoping to win the dream jackpot, and that's enough for them to keep on betting even if it's mean to lose their money every single day. It is bad, generally, but we can't do anything about it since they made a decision to stick to their plan. We can't help them if they won't let us.


Yes I agree with you If someone who wants to leave in gambling in his/her whole lives.  we can give an advices and tips on how to avoid their games, or else we try to hang them out  or make an activities for them to be happy.

But if someone could  not  we can not help them unless they they will make a big mistake  in their whole lives
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September 11, 2021, 10:27:43 AM
Cheesy LMAO, there is no such thing is "fate" when it comes to gambling or anything period as far as I am concerned.  That's like using the saying "everything happens for a reason".  It amazes me that people literally believe that.  Gambling is two part..both skill and luck, but there is not fate involved. Let's be real here.

You are right, apart from skill in gambling, you also need luck. It's just that some people call it differently - luck, fortune or fate. It all depends on a person's faith. But regardless of who and how they call it, we know that it's just a favorable set of circumstances.  Grin
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September 11, 2021, 10:27:37 AM


For example, you are gambling and you plan to win $10,000 but your capital is only $100, that's very unrealistic as you can't be based on luck only, in gambling, probabilities always win, and therefore your chance is very low to make your goal.

Your right your Chance of winning is very low cause you cannot predict the results of the game and if you win then probably you will loss too cause we all know that there's a no chance to gamblers win always in the game

And we need to ask for luck just for the seek of winning otherwise losses are what we got.

Our chances of winning in gambling are so small that sometimes we'd never see. If we think that we can make money from gambling, we better stop that as it gonna be ridiculous and unrealistic. Yeah, we sometimes win but tried to calculate our losses, that seems surprising how big it was compared to the amount we win.
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September 11, 2021, 10:14:56 AM


For example, you are gambling and you plan to win $10,000 but your capital is only $100, that's very unrealistic as you can't be based on luck only, in gambling, probabilities always win, and therefore your chance is very low to make your goal.

Your right your Chance of winning is very low cause you cannot predict the results of the game and if you win then probably you will loss too cause we all know that there's a no chance to gamblers win always in the game
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September 11, 2021, 10:11:44 AM
Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry Cry

Playing gambling whether online or based land I couldn't say it is a fate. Because when you were born in this world came up from the womb of your mother, is that are you gambler already? Nope, you were just a baby who doesn't know anything in this world. Meaning, you chose to become a gambler while in your journey you found online gambling platform and you decide to become one of the gamblers in it due to out of your curiosity. So if you lose that means you made the wrong choice where to put your bet or etc. something like that.
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September 11, 2021, 09:41:53 AM
 Cheesy LMAO, there is no such thing is "fate" when it comes to gambling or anything period as far as I am concerned.  That's like using the saying "everything happens for a reason".  It amazes me that people literally believe that.  Gambling is two part..both skill and luck, but there is not fate involved. Let's be real here.
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September 11, 2021, 08:51:27 AM
  If we destine to lose let's accept but if we  win it's a good luck ,an we all know in gambling wether you win or you will lose and that would be defend in the fate of your the game. Having no control or lack of control it can leads you nothing cause a person who greed to win and if not responsible to play in the gambling and all of the labored will be gone.
Well, most of the time the destiny was to lose and it's an acceptable matter in the first place. That's the thing most gamblers lack and the fact is even people who aren't new will still fall on that behavior - lack of control.


I think few gamblers only, because if we believe most gambler has that kind of problem, then probably gambling should not exist as it's not good for the majority of people. The fact that gambling sites are still profitable is because addiction is just a small problem and it's happening to some people only, of course, only those who are not responsible.


I think addiction is a serious cases in gambling  because if a gambler get addicted he/she will make a way to Play gambling even if he/she will loss many money then the effect of being addicted   the time was come that they sell their properties  in order to Play thier gambling sites.

Losing their money for addicted gamblers is normal, but it is not enough for them to quit since they are forever hoping to win the dream jackpot, and that's enough for them to keep on betting even if it's mean to lose their money every single day. It is bad, generally, but we can't do anything about it since they made a decision to stick to their plan. We can't help them if they won't let us.
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September 11, 2021, 07:05:54 AM
No such thing as fate, that meant that everything that happens to you, you deserve it when in reality it's not. I don't know if it's been said in this thread already but the people that blames the unseen forces/fictional personas for their downfall in gambling and losses are people that are afraid of themselves and doesn't have the capability to carry the responsibility of their actions. Afraid of themselves because they can't believe that they're responsible to their own actions.
That is not related to the unseen forces/fictional personas and that is because we lack control in gambling, which makes us lose money. When they can be responsible for their gambling actions, they will not have to see the loss, although they will still lose, but they can reduce the amount. If finally, you lose in the gambling games, then that is your fate to see a loss in the gambling and that also happens if you win. But lack of control is something that we must avoid to prevent the bigger loss.
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September 11, 2021, 06:57:55 AM
  If we destine to lose let's accept but if we  win it's a good luck ,an we all know in gambling wether you win or you will lose and that would be defend in the fate of your the game. Having no control or lack of control it can leads you nothing cause a person who greed to win and if not responsible to play in the gambling and all of the labored will be gone.
Well, most of the time the destiny was to lose and it's an acceptable matter in the first place. That's the thing most gamblers lack and the fact is even people who aren't new will still fall on that behavior - lack of control.


I think few gamblers only, because if we believe most gambler has that kind of problem, then probably gambling should not exist as it's not good for the majority of people. The fact that gambling sites are still profitable is because addiction is just a small problem and it's happening to some people only, of course, only those who are not responsible.

I do think we can all agree that the root cause of any type of addiction- is lack of self-control and discipline.

The problem with gambling is that it revolves the expenditure of funds on a daily basis. You cannot engage into gambling if a person does not have the necessary capital to do so. What makes it more appealing is that sense of hope of hitting the jackpot that may potentially double or triple your initial bet.

As someone who experienced the other side of the spectrum, having a good support system is essential in combating addiction. Knowing that everyone or your peers are supportive of helping you is a big factor that made me changed my life for the better.

That's true, and if you are unrealistic, that would result in greediness. If you are just having fun and you are okay to lose, then you will surely not gonna face a serious problem, but if you are ambitious enough but unrealistic with your approach, then probably you are destined to learn the hard way.

For example, you are gambling and you plan to win $10,000 but your capital is only $100, that's very unrealistic as you can't be based on luck only, in gambling, probabilities always win, and therefore your chance is very low to make your goal.
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September 11, 2021, 06:49:19 AM
  If we destine to lose let's accept but if we  win it's a good luck ,an we all know in gambling wether you win or you will lose and that would be defend in the fate of your the game. Having no control or lack of control it can leads you nothing cause a person who greed to win and if not responsible to play in the gambling and all of the labored will be gone.
Well, most of the time the destiny was to lose and it's an acceptable matter in the first place. That's the thing most gamblers lack and the fact is even people who aren't new will still fall on that behavior - lack of control.


I think few gamblers only, because if we believe most gambler has that kind of problem, then probably gambling should not exist as it's not good for the majority of people. The fact that gambling sites are still profitable is because addiction is just a small problem and it's happening to some people only, of course, only those who are not responsible.

I do think we can all agree that the root cause of any type of addiction- is lack of self-control and discipline.

The problem with gambling is that it revolves the expenditure of funds on a daily basis. You cannot engage into gambling if a person does not have the necessary capital to do so. What makes it more appealing is that sense of hope of hitting the jackpot that may potentially double or triple your initial bet.

As someone who experienced the other side of the spectrum, having a good support system is essential in combating addiction. Knowing that everyone or your peers are supportive of helping you is a big factor that made me changed my life for the better.
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September 11, 2021, 05:25:36 AM
  If we destine to lose let's accept but if we  win it's a good luck ,an we all know in gambling wether you win or you will lose and that would be defend in the fate of your the game. Having no control or lack of control it can leads you nothing cause a person who greed to win and if not responsible to play in the gambling and all of the labored will be gone.
Well, most of the time the destiny was to lose and it's an acceptable matter in the first place. That's the thing most gamblers lack and the fact is even people who aren't new will still fall on that behavior - lack of control.


I think few gamblers only, because if we believe most gambler has that kind of problem, then probably gambling should not exist as it's not good for the majority of people. The fact that gambling sites are still profitable is because addiction is just a small problem and it's happening to some people only, of course, only those who are not responsible.


I think addiction is a serious cases in gambling  because if a gambler get addicted he/she will make a way to Play gambling even if he/she will loss many money then the effect of being addicted   the time was come that they sell their properties  in order to Play thier gambling sites.
a gambler should be able to control their emotions in playing, so that they can limit the losses that might occur in the game, but for a gambling addict, defeat will make them more curious and will continue to play to restore all the losses they can , without realizing it actually gambling addiction will greatly affect our personal and family lives in the future, in my opinion Gambling excessively can cause many problems, including: strained relationships, financial problems, legal problems, potential job loss, drug use, and what worse, all of them can end up committing suicide due to the financial pressures we face.
It is better to make gambling as a place to seek pleasure and not as a necessity so that we can avoid addiction.
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September 11, 2021, 04:31:46 AM
No such thing as fate, that meant that everything that happens to you, you deserve it when in reality it's not. I don't know if it's been said in this thread already but the people that blames the unseen forces/fictional personas for their downfall in gambling and losses are people that are afraid of themselves and doesn't have the capability to carry the responsibility of their actions. Afraid of themselves because they can't believe that they're responsible to their own actions.
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September 11, 2021, 03:23:55 AM
  If we destine to lose let's accept but if we  win it's a good luck ,an we all know in gambling wether you win or you will lose and that would be defend in the fate of your the game. Having no control or lack of control it can leads you nothing cause a person who greed to win and if not responsible to play in the gambling and all of the labored will be gone.
Well, most of the time the destiny was to lose and it's an acceptable matter in the first place. That's the thing most gamblers lack and the fact is even people who aren't new will still fall on that behavior - lack of control.


I think few gamblers only, because if we believe most gambler has that kind of problem, then probably gambling should not exist as it's not good for the majority of people. The fact that gambling sites are still profitable is because addiction is just a small problem and it's happening to some people only, of course, only those who are not responsible.


I think addiction is a serious cases in gambling  because if a gambler get addicted he/she will make a way to Play gambling even if he/she will loss many money then the effect of being addicted   the time was come that they sell their properties  in order to Play thier gambling sites.
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September 10, 2021, 09:43:41 PM
But most gamblers do not walk away after they lose instead continue placing their bets. That will not help them to win because they only dig their grave in a losing way. We do not know our destiny, but as long as we can be responsible for what we do, that will be our destiny.
Probably, as most gamblers continue to play instead of quitting and find some air when they suffer from heavy losses.

It's tough to control as aggressions keep coming inside and since there's still balance from their bankroll, they keep trying to recover what they've lost in a much quicker time frame. Even they win some it won't stop there, they keep digging and they will only stop when they're nothing left inside their wallet.
When they are greedy, they will not stop even if they already won some money because they want to win for some more. It is hard to stop in their position but if you have control for yourself, you will find it is not too difficult to stop.

If they can stop for a while to see how much money they have, they need to send their funds to their balance or other wallets and stop gambling while they already won. It is not advisable to recover their loss because that can make them have a bigger loss.

In gambling, we can only know when to play and when to quit gambling and not use too much money if we are not ready to see a big loss. When you win so much money, you need to stop gambling and never double your profit because that will not always happen.

Limit yourself and have a good control in setting up your goals. Your fate will be better if you know how to execute everything the right
way, gambling always accompanied by high risk best to keep in mind to allocate only the amount that you are willing to let go.
If we can allocate only the amount that we can afford to lose, we will not lose the balance at once instead we can playing gambling more the next day. When they are playing gambling, most people forget about this, especially after they enjoy the games for some time. Hopefully, they can realize that gambling is just entertainment to enjoy their lives.
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September 10, 2021, 01:56:53 PM

But most gamblers do not walk away after they lose instead continue placing their bets. That will not help them to win because they only dig their grave in a losing way. We do not know our destiny, but as long as we can be responsible for what we do, that will be our destiny.

Probably, as most gamblers continue to play instead of quitting and find some air when they suffer from heavy losses.

It's tough to control as aggressions keep coming inside and since there's still balance from their bankroll, they keep trying to recover what they've lost in a much quicker time frame. Even they win some it won't stop there, they keep digging and they will only stop when they're nothing left inside their wallet.

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In gambling, we can only know when to play and when to quit gambling and not use too much money if we are not ready to see a big loss. When you win so much money, you need to stop gambling and never double your profit because that will not always happen.

Limit yourself and have a good control in setting up your goals. Your fate will be better if you know how to execute everything the right
way, gambling always accompanied by high risk best to keep in mind to allocate only the amount that you are willing to let go.
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September 10, 2021, 10:24:08 AM
Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry Cry

I guess that by "fate" you mean luck.I think that fate is a little bit different term,which means that it is your destiny to win or lose.I don't believe in destiny and determinism.Our actions and decisions are what determines our lives,not some imaginative thing called 'destiny' or 'fate'. 
In gambling you have to learn how to control your luck.This means that you have to leave the game and walk away,when you don't have luck.On the other hand,you have to get as much profit as possible,when luck is on your side.
But most gamblers do not walk away after they lose instead continue placing their bets. That will not help them to win because they only dig their grave in a losing way. We do not know our destiny, but as long as we can be responsible for what we do, that will be our destiny.

In gambling, we can only know when to play and when to quit gambling and not use too much money if we are not ready to see a big loss. When you win so much money, you need to stop gambling and never double your profit because that will not always happen.
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September 10, 2021, 03:17:45 AM
Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry Cry

I guess that by "fate" you mean luck.I think that fate is a little bit different term,which means that it is your destiny to win or lose.I don't believe in destiny and determinism.Our actions and decisions are what determines our lives,not some imaginative thing called 'destiny' or 'fate'. 
In gambling you have to learn how to control your luck.This means that you have to leave the game and walk away,when you don't have luck.On the other hand,you have to get as much profit as possible,when luck is on your side.
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September 10, 2021, 03:08:55 AM
  If we destine to lose let's accept but if we  win it's a good luck ,an we all know in gambling wether you win or you will lose and that would be defend in the fate of your the game. Having no control or lack of control it can leads you nothing cause a person who greed to win and if not responsible to play in the gambling and all of the labored will be gone.
Well, most of the time the destiny was to lose and it's an acceptable matter in the first place. That's the thing most gamblers lack and the fact is even people who aren't new will still fall on that behavior - lack of control.


I think few gamblers only, because if we believe most gambler has that kind of problem, then probably gambling should not exist as it's not good for the majority of people. The fact that gambling sites are still profitable is because addiction is just a small problem and it's happening to some people only, of course, only those who are not responsible.
If gambling was a guaranteed winning business most gambling companies would have folder long ago. Have you taken your time to consider how the get the funds to pay their winners. The arithmetic is quite simple. They take from lost games to pay games won and the percentage of winning to losses is always high which helps them maintain their business
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