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Quote from: Desmong on July 25, 2021, 02:58:50 AM

Luck is the utmost force in gambling than fate which has great effects in determining the result of a dice when gambling. Luck coupled with self control can really increase the possibility of one having winning a bet rather than just depending on work input. Winning a bet could come as a force in form of luck increase the ways in which a gambler wins a bet without much efforts which comes in a simple or effortless manner.

You cannot determine results based on your luck. It comes at the end and even if you're very lucky, you'll only know that you are lucky at the end of your bets.
The effect of any of them can be said that it's about your luck or you're actually destined to win. Well, with such long explanations, it's really a long discussion about whether you are lucky or it's your fate when you win or lose as you lose control too.

Luck is the product of trying... and trying... only if you are trying you can get lucky! If you just sit and wait to get lucky, most likely you will not get anything, except the pain in your back from too much sitting!
I guess some people are luckier than others, after all, we are gambling and we never know what will happen in the end, but for sure we all hope that it's our time to win whenever we gamble! Probably that hope and desire to win push us to bet more and higher, and that affects our self-control! It's why we need some limits, to not spend more than we can afford to lose at the moment!

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Quote from: Desmong on July 25, 2021, 02:58:50 AM

Luck is the utmost force in gambling than fate which has great effects in determining the result of a dice when gambling. Luck coupled with self control can really increase the possibility of one having winning a bet rather than just depending on work input. Winning a bet could come as a force in form of luck increase the ways in which a gambler wins a bet without much efforts which comes in a simple or effortless manner.

You cannot determine results based on your luck. It comes at the end and even if you're very lucky, you'll only know that you are lucky at the end of your bets.
The effect of any of them can be said that it's about your luck or you're actually destined to win. Well, with such long explanations, it's really a long discussion about whether you are lucky or it's your fate when you win or lose as you lose control too.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on June 29, 2021, 05:31:59 PM

Fate has nothing to do concerning gambling,luck rather should be used in place of fate.As fate talks about future(destiny) luck talks about now.When a gambler Gamble's and looses,he plays again to get back his money,and when he wins,he thinks of winning more,forgeting that he may loose again,And so he continue playing till his money gets finished.

Luck is the utmost force in gambling than fate which has great effects in determining the result of a dice when gambling. Luck coupled with self control can really increase the possibility of one having winning a bet rather than just depending on work input. Winning a bet could come as a force in form of luck increase the ways in which a gambler wins a bet without much efforts which comes in a simple or effortless manner.

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If one properly examines the meaning of the word "fate", the oxford dictionary puts it as the "development of event outside of a person's control." It is plausible to think that there are some external forces that sometimes push people to gamble and may be out of situational pity or the right to win after many consecutive failures in the game, things just go as intended even without much effort and careful thinking.

So if you have gambled a lot and lost some money, have it at the back of your mind that you are accumulating and earning your right to win because fate is watching really and expect that at some point, you will hit jackpot. You only do not win after a while probably because you did not try to win enough, and you quit before your efforts got ripe enough to earn you a win.

It is important to always remember that loosing actually shows that an effort has been made to win, but one should also gamble responsibly and in proportion and should be weary of rash decisions in gambling.

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Even I think most of the gamblers are not responsible because I have seen many people complaining about their losses in gambling.
Many gamblers are not able to control their emotions and end up in huge losses.
While some gamblers play only for fun the others are gambling to make a quick buck.
Lack of control is what makes many gamblers lose money.

If not most for sure we won't see more and more casinos around, it's very likely that there more gamblers who can't control themselves while playing.

Some thinks that they are just having some fun and continue to bring more money to their bankroll exceeding from what should they'll be using for their gambling sessions.

Lack of control which really kills all those those deposited funds from gamblers and continue depositing to casino owner's paychecks!

That's wrong, it's not most gamblers, maybe we can use the word a lot of gamblers, but not most.

What made gambling platforms still operating and growing is because they are bringing entertainment, and they would not last if most of the gamblers are losing money more than they can afford to lose.

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Quote from: pawanjain on July 04, 2021, 10:11:40 AM

Even I think most of the gamblers are not responsible because I have seen many people complaining about their losses in gambling.
Many gamblers are not able to control their emotions and end up in huge losses.
While some gamblers play only for fun the others are gambling to make a quick buck.
Lack of control is what makes many gamblers lose money.

If not most for sure we won't see more and more casinos around, it's very likely that there more gamblers who can't control themselves while playing.

Some thinks that they are just having some fun and continue to bring more money to their bankroll exceeding from what should they'll be using for their gambling sessions.

Lack of control which really kills all those those deposited funds from gamblers and continue depositing to casino owner's paychecks!

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 03, 2021, 07:57:00 AM

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It's always a lack of control, if you have a control to yourself you wouldn't be able to lose so much in gambling since you would be able to control yourself to stop playing well if someone managed to master this kind of behavior or skill the user would be able to control his losses and won't spend too much and end up losing all their money.

It's not hard to control yourself in gambling, I believe, majority of gamblers are responsible, yes, they maybe lose some money but they are enjoying. If getting out of control is a major problem, then we should not be seeing gambling operators still up now, that's the logic.

Gambling business is still running does not mean that gamblers are responsible. There may be few gamblers who are responsible ones but majority of the gamblers just play to get quick profits and have no plan. If you only depend on fate in gambling, then you won't be able to win in long term.

Even I think most of the gamblers are not responsible because I have seen many people complaining about their losses in gambling.
Many gamblers are not able to control their emotions and end up in huge losses.
While some gamblers play only for fun the others are gambling to make a quick buck.
Lack of control is what makes many gamblers lose money.

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It's always a lack of control, if you have a control to yourself you wouldn't be able to lose so much in gambling since you would be able to control yourself to stop playing well if someone managed to master this kind of behavior or skill the user would be able to control his losses and won't spend too much and end up losing all their money.

It's not hard to control yourself in gambling, I believe, majority of gamblers are responsible, yes, they maybe lose some money but they are enjoying. If getting out of control is a major problem, then we should not be seeing gambling operators still up now, that's the logic.

Gambling business is still running does not mean that gamblers are responsible. There may be few gamblers who are responsible ones but majority of the gamblers just play to get quick profits and have no plan. If you only depend on fate in gambling, then you won't be able to win in long term.

If fate is not a fulcrum for you in gambling, you are probably thinking that skill will be a turning point but unfortunately I don't believe in such skills, you may be right that each game will need a different skill to help us have more optimal interaction and win but this is not an online game market, it's not our antagonism with others, it's our antagonism and the operator. A few simple lines of code on their website design are enough to make us lose, our responsibility is to enjoy some winning feeling, not to try to win

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But if a player can afford to lose, for example, $ 10 million, then it is obvious that during the game he will win one million at least once, right? I think this is quite easy to achieve and it is a large sum. But I am 100% sure that after such a win, this player continues to play and this is explained by the dependence on the game process.

One great example is Floyd Mayweather, he is known to be a high stake gambler especially in sports, and until now we haven't heard a news that he is already bankrupt, so that says, if one has the control regardless of the amount involved, he will be able to enjoy gambling.

I think this is not the best example since he has huge incomes in the past and I think in the present. He has a name and even if he completely loses his money, he can more or less easily recover a significant amount from the lost one. Many organizers of events, interviews and other will easily pay him a good sum for the very fact of his presence.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 03, 2021, 07:57:00 AM

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It's always a lack of control, if you have a control to yourself you wouldn't be able to lose so much in gambling since you would be able to control yourself to stop playing well if someone managed to master this kind of behavior or skill the user would be able to control his losses and won't spend too much and end up losing all their money.

It's not hard to control yourself in gambling, I believe, majority of gamblers are responsible, yes, they maybe lose some money but they are enjoying. If getting out of control is a major problem, then we should not be seeing gambling operators still up now, that's the logic.

Gambling business is still running does not mean that gamblers are responsible. There may be few gamblers who are responsible ones but majority of the gamblers just play to get quick profits and have no plan. If you only depend on fate in gambling, then you won't be able to win in long term.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 03, 2021, 07:57:00 AM

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It's always a lack of control, if you have a control to yourself you wouldn't be able to lose so much in gambling since you would be able to control yourself to stop playing well if someone managed to master this kind of behavior or skill the user would be able to control his losses and won't spend too much and end up losing all their money.

It's not hard to control yourself in gambling, I believe, majority of gamblers are responsible, yes, they maybe lose some money but they are enjoying. If getting out of control is a major problem, then we should not be seeing gambling operators still up now, that's the logic.

What kind of logic is that? How cant we see gambling operators if out of control is the major issue? We have heard many bad stories regarding gambling since years ago but as we can see, casino is remain there. People come and go btw.

The ability to control ourselves regarding gambling is an easier said than done thing to be honest. People will forget it once they faced bad losses. They will try to chase the losses as fast as possible which mostly will lead them to the very bad end.

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Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

I guess a lot of gamblers lose a lot of money because of their lack of control when they keep winning the bet we tend to continue betting thinking that we are gonna continue to win.

Maybe fate doesn't count because you could play the whole day and just win straight if you really lucky and probably can go lose straight without even winning even though you might have a 50% chance of winning.

You could always lower the chance of losing if you know your limitations and lower the money you could lose, continue to gambling when winning probably is not a good idea since you could probably lose it all in the end.

In terms of lack of control, it's not because of your fate, it's your wrong decision-making that leads you to become irresponsible in gambling. You will not lose a lot of money if you stay in control, so don't make stupid excuse that it's your fate to lose big money in gambling.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 11, 2021, 11:14:20 AM

Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.

What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry

I guess a lot of gamblers lose a lot of money because of their lack of control when they keep winning the bet we tend to continue betting thinking that we are gonna continue to win.

Maybe fate doesn't count because you could play the whole day and just win straight if you really lucky and probably can go lose straight without even winning even though you might have a 50% chance of winning.

You could always lower the chance of losing if you know your limitations and lower the money you could lose, continue to gambling when winning probably is not a good idea since you could probably lose it all in the end.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 03, 2021, 12:19:31 PM

Quote from: hahay on July 03, 2021, 09:17:57 AM

Self-control still won't be easy, if you say self-control is easy but in reality it's only for a few percent of them and usually they are disciplined gamblers.

Small percentage from those experienced gamblers who can really managed their emotions,
they manage to practice self-control and have a better chance not to lose huge amount of money.

Quote from: hahay on July 03, 2021, 09:17:57 AM

I never feel self control is easy even after you play for a long time, when you enjoy gambling then that's when you are only controlled by your own addiction.

When you are enjoying and you are satisfied with the outcome, win or lose as long as you are not exceeding to your budget.

Quote from: hahay on July 03, 2021, 09:17:57 AM

If it's like that, of course self-control can no longer be prioritized because you will only continue to seek pleasure in gambling that is difficult to control.

again, if you are not exceeding, but if you are unable to control yourself and you continue depositing more, then it will lead you to addiction.

I think poker is a good example for a game that requires an amazing mental health. Sure luck in involved, but think about those guys playing the world series of poker for seven days or so. Sitting at the table for 10 hours a day, never lose your mind and be patient and patient even if it's not going well for you for a day. I respect that a lot as to me it is quite an achievement to get through these huge events. Even players like Gus Hansen started losing their minds, interestingly when they got older. You would think they'd be more calm as they got older, but you have less mental fitness and endurance.

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Quote from: hahay on July 03, 2021, 09:17:57 AM

Self-control still won't be easy, if you say self-control is easy but in reality it's only for a few percent of them and usually they are disciplined gamblers.

Small percentage from those experienced gamblers who can really managed their emotions,
they manage to practice self-control and have a better chance not to lose huge amount of money.

Quote from: hahay on July 03, 2021, 09:17:57 AM

I never feel self control is easy even after you play for a long time, when you enjoy gambling then that's when you are only controlled by your own addiction.

When you are enjoying and you are satisfied with the outcome, win or lose as long as you are not exceeding to your budget.

Quote from: hahay on July 03, 2021, 09:17:57 AM

If it's like that, of course self-control can no longer be prioritized because you will only continue to seek pleasure in gambling that is difficult to control.

again, if you are not exceeding, but if you are unable to control yourself and you continue depositing more, then it will lead you to addiction.

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It's always a lack of control, if you have a control to yourself you wouldn't be able to lose so much in gambling since you would be able to control yourself to stop playing well if someone managed to master this kind of behavior or skill the user would be able to control his losses and won't spend too much and end up losing all their money.

It's not hard to control yourself in gambling, I believe, majority of gamblers are responsible, yes, they maybe lose some money but they are enjoying. If getting out of control is a major problem, then we should not be seeing gambling operators still up now, that's the logic.

Self-control when playing gambling is very important because we will play a game that has an unexpected ending, therefore we must be prepared for whatever results will come, although some people think self-control is an easy thing but that is not the case for gamblers who playing in online and offline casinos, many gamblers even continue to play when he wins and think if he plays longer he will get bigger wins, even though we know in gambling everything can happen suddenly and it is not impossible if the first one wins but in the end will lose, therefore self-control is quite important in gambling and we must know when we have to stop gambling, in other words, it means when we win, we should be able to keep the excitement at a natural level and when we lose, we should be able to control our emotions, because emotions can cloud our minds, and once emotions do, it will affect our own judgment and meaning , both in happiness and sadness, if we don't have good self-control, we can certainly make decisions that we will eventually regret.

Self-control still won't be easy, if you say self-control is easy but in reality it's only for a few percent of them and usually they are disciplined gamblers. I never feel self control is easy even after you play for a long time, when you enjoy gambling then that's when you are only controlled by your own addiction. If it's like that, of course self-control can no longer be prioritized because you will only continue to seek pleasure in gambling that is difficult to control.

It is truly easier said than done. Especially if a gambler is into playing for a long time, and intentions are also being intensified due to various reasons such as needs, then self-control is a blurry aspect for them. Regardless of this, it is really the lack of control in my opinion, that has resulted to huge incurred loss for gamblers.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 03, 2021, 07:57:00 AM

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It's always a lack of control, if you have a control to yourself you wouldn't be able to lose so much in gambling since you would be able to control yourself to stop playing well if someone managed to master this kind of behavior or skill the user would be able to control his losses and won't spend too much and end up losing all their money.

It's not hard to control yourself in gambling, I believe, majority of gamblers are responsible, yes, they maybe lose some money but they are enjoying. If getting out of control is a major problem, then we should not be seeing gambling operators still up now, that's the logic.

Self-control when playing gambling is very important because we will play a game that has an unexpected ending, therefore we must be prepared for whatever results will come, although some people think self-control is an easy thing but that is not the case for gamblers who playing in online and offline casinos, many gamblers even continue to play when he wins and think if he plays longer he will get bigger wins, even though we know in gambling everything can happen suddenly and it is not impossible if the first one wins but in the end will lose, therefore self-control is quite important in gambling and we must know when we have to stop gambling, in other words, it means when we win, we should be able to keep the excitement at a natural level and when we lose, we should be able to control our emotions, because emotions can cloud our minds, and once emotions do, it will affect our own judgment and meaning , both in happiness and sadness, if we don't have good self-control, we can certainly make decisions that we will eventually regret.

Self-control still won't be easy, if you say self-control is easy but in reality it's only for a few percent of them and usually they are disciplined gamblers. I never feel self control is easy even after you play for a long time, when you enjoy gambling then that's when you are only controlled by your own addiction. If it's like that, of course self-control can no longer be prioritized because you will only continue to seek pleasure in gambling that is difficult to control.

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It seems to me that the essence of addiction is not in the desire to win or to win back, but in the desire of the very process of the game, so your advice is unlikely to help anyone. As we know, even very rich people who do not need big winnings suffer from gambling addiction, they depend on the very process of the game.

There's a reason why they gamble, they still want to win big as that's the ultimate purpose of gambling. No one in this world had an infinite amount of money even if we call them to reach, they still get excited and want to win, so in the process, they get addicted as they also have an ego especially if they are losing. Them not being able to control their emotion, that will lead them to bigger problems and that could result in bankruptcy.

But if a player can afford to lose, for example, $ 10 million, then it is obvious that during the game he will win one million at least once, right? I think this is quite easy to achieve and it is a large sum. But I am 100% sure that after such a win, this player continues to play and this is explained by the dependence on the game process.

One great example is Floyd Mayweather, he is known to be a high stake gambler especially in sports, and until now we haven't heard a news that he is already bankrupt, so that says, if one has the control regardless of the amount involved, he will be able to enjoy gambling.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 03, 2021, 07:57:00 AM

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It's always a lack of control, if you have a control to yourself you wouldn't be able to lose so much in gambling since you would be able to control yourself to stop playing well if someone managed to master this kind of behavior or skill the user would be able to control his losses and won't spend too much and end up losing all their money.

It's not hard to control yourself in gambling, I believe, majority of gamblers are responsible, yes, they maybe lose some money but they are enjoying. If getting out of control is a major problem, then we should not be seeing gambling operators still up now, that's the logic.

Self-control when playing gambling is very important because we will play a game that has an unexpected ending, therefore we must be prepared for whatever results will come, although some people think self-control is an easy thing but that is not the case for gamblers who playing in online and offline casinos, many gamblers even continue to play when he wins and think if he plays longer he will get bigger wins, even though we know in gambling everything can happen suddenly and it is not impossible if the first one wins but in the end will lose, therefore self-control is quite important in gambling and we must know when we have to stop gambling, in other words, it means when we win, we should be able to keep the excitement at a natural level and when we lose, we should be able to control our emotions, because emotions can cloud our minds, and once emotions do, it will affect our own judgment and meaning , both in happiness and sadness, if we don't have good self-control, we can certainly make decisions that we will eventually regret.

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There's a reason why they gamble, they still want to win big as that's the ultimate purpose of gambling. No one in this world had an infinite amount of money even if we call them to reach, they still get excited and want to win, so in the process, they get addicted as they also have an ego especially if they are losing. Them not being able to control their emotion, that will lead them to bigger problems and that could result in bankruptcy.

and everything you say is connected with fate, that gambler is destined to be lucky and win in a few rounds but because he is greedy then his fate changes and he loses in the next round....fate, luck, and misfortune are like a unit that can't be separated, just how can we take advantage of our luck when it comes when we gamble.

We only need luck in order to win, unlike in sports betting that we also need to analyze every team's performance. if we are too lucky this today, might happen that we become unlucky by the next day. A life in gambling is all about losing and winning but honestly, having some fate couldn't save us. We gonna lose more or every day if we don't have luck and much more if we don't manage to control our emotions.

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