Topic: Features of the worldview of a gambler - page 3. (Read 618 times)

Addiction can easily be gotten if we are not careful about the kind of decisions we are making. Gambling has it own risk and too much of consistency can lead to gambling addiction. There are level of addiction and when it reaches a level called the acute addiction, we can still adjust and control ourselves. Acute addiction can easily to relinquish with the help of chancellor and family members. Getting rid of it does not take too long. The Chronic addiction is what we need to try to stop because it is very difficult to get rid of it. This stage it is unlikely to scape or get rid of it due to many factors.

Many gamblers feel optimistic when playing gambling and think they can win some money when in reality, they have difficulty winning from gambling games. These people have lost a lot of money in gambling but have not stopped themselves or even reduced their gambling activities because they feel they can win. And many of them are addicted to gambling but don't want to stop gambling before they win. Unfortunately, many of them don't understand how to manage the risks of gambling because they still gamble often and even use more money. For wise gamblers, they continue to try to manage and reduce the loss of their money in gambling, but not for gambling addicts.

Well, maybe they are still unfamiliar with risk management but if they don't learn it soon, they could lose even more money. They must immediately cure their gambling addiction because it can get worse and will cost them all their money. But it depends on the wishes of each gambler because if they still want to gamble more intensively, they will not be able to stop gambling.

If they learn a hard lesson from gambling, maybe that would make them stop for rehabilitation. I believe that they are having some good and bad times and they are still hoping that they will make profit from gambling as this is the first thing that led them to addiction.

As for risk management, I never knew of this until I joined this forum and that is how many gamblers are out there just gambling without knowing the risk management in gambling and this is why even as they are losing, they continue gambling and hoping the next game will be the winning game.

Gambling addiction is a very real issue it the fact that so many people fall in this type of addiction without being able to get any help, goes to show how our society has failed to improve it's infrastructure for those that need it most. We have so many people addicted to gambling these days, and they are barely able to function within society's rules due to this issue. Imagine how much better the world would be if they would be able to get better help...

Correct, it is not everybody that will agree of what they do, as you may know, it is hard to agreed that one is doing something wrong, even when they know that they are not doing the right things, but people can admit that they are doing the right thing if really they are doing it.
it is hard to quit gamble so everyone must be so careful he or she is dealing with gamble.

Oh you!  
I know (I am 99% sure that I know) what country you are from. If you look around, you will be convinced that everything that you have listed in relation to gamblers works perfectly for 90% of the population of that country   The situation has been developing for years (for more than 10 years) from bad to worse, but the majority, instead of making the necessary decisions, continue to remain optimistic and somehow adapt. Risk management and more complex things are not even worth mentioning. It’s funny, but in my opinion, the fact that some gamblers do not understand that the casino has an advantage over them is more understandable than the fact that the majority of the population does not understand how the government robs them through inflation.

As for the fact that gamblers understand that they are gamblers but continue to play, there is no paradox here either - I know that many alcoholics also understand the harmfulness of their habit. In both cases, the point is that people are willing to pay for positive emotions (which they receive in such a perverted way) not just with their money, but also with their health and other risks. People are irrational, you have to accept that.

For a gambling addict to admit that they are addicted is one step toward their solution, but only talking about it will not make them stop. For example, if I am a drunker and I agree that yeah, I am a drunker, admitting the fact and telling people about it will not make me stop drinking; I will still be urged to drink, but if I have the ability to resist such an urge, then there is a tendency to prevent myself from drinking. So, as a compulsive gambler, the first thing is to admit that he or she is a compulsive gambler, and the second thing is to discipline themselves from gambling compulsively. The person should seek help from people around them, mostly loved ones. Gambling is one thing I know that if someone is into it, it becomes difficult to resist doing it, but the person just needs to practice self-control, or gambling will be in control of them.

Having a strong hope that their gambling addiction is positive, puts them into a more serious gambling problem. The journey of gambling addiction is quite difficult, to the extent that they won't accept their problems. The losses don't count to the addicts, all they hope on is the future winning. Human brains are not programmed to reason differently. Whatever is expected of the brain to do in one aspect of life, it will also similarly do in another. That is why if we are pursuing a goal our brain won't stop until it's achieved. Hence in gambling the brain executes similar actions, thereby pushing gamblers to continue gambling not minding the disadvantages. And the house is also aware of the reaction of the brain towards gamblers, especially when chasing for a win. So, just asking addicts whether they're addicted or not, doesn't help any of them to heal. It's only a way of deriving a view for the show presenters.

Doing that is more of a way of escalating the problem to more people who watch the show. As Op mentioned, these people lack control and already don't feel remorse for their problems. It's normal to see addicts who don't feel a thing about losing much money in gambling. Life is normal to them, even they'll think that nonaddicts are the silly ones, not them. Addiction works strangely, the brain has been restructured to love gambling more than anything else. Hence no need to expect a negative answer from an addicted gambler about what he feels about his bad habit. Unless he's now on the near line of escaping addiction, he'll always be proud of gambling. Nobody hates what they truly love. Hence, since the continuous effort doesn't yield any positive result, it's not enough to stop the player from gambling, even though it's causing him much trouble each day. Building a relationship with the addict is great in saving him from problem gambling.

Nothing concerns gambling addicts with risk management except if they are not really that addicted, and by the way, a gambler who practices risk management will hardly get addicted, so, in essence, gambling addicts really don't care, or should I say, most of them don't  care.

And a couple of times, I actually come across gambling addicts who really knew that they were  addicted to gambling but seem to be enjoying it, that is, they seem nonchalant about the whole thing, but what I did notice is that, they were at peace with themselves, and I guess this is possible or probably because, they have good source of income, earning good money every month. So, because of this, they feel secure financially knowing fully well that they will never or may never go bankrupt, or experience financial stagnation due to gambling.

Your topic is named " Features of the worldview of a gambler " and yet you talk about gambling addicts. I think that is not the same thing and the two should not be equated. I have never exhibited any of the four features you mentioned but I gamble. I know my limits and I know when to stop. I am not optimistic but rather pessimistic about gambling, which is why I never gamble large amounts of money. And risk management is everything to me. I make sure to always follow my own risk management plan and it has saved me from a lot of heartache.

Gamblers in general or the addicted ones you are talking about? The worldview each category of gambler has is different from others. A casual gambler who plays responsively will view gambling an a hobby or distraction from daily stress and tasks, while an addicted gambler will dedicate a long time or his whole time to gambling activity, as it were the exclusive purpose of his life. Actually, the worldview addicted gamblers have towards this activity might be quite complex to be understood.

In some cases it must be a relation of love and hate: at same time they love and get excited gambling, they also hate it because they can't stop playing and even though they live in alienated states of mind to afford such disfunctional routine, they have some lucidity moments where they take conscience how harmful gambling is being for them, so they get angry and mad on it.

Anyway, it's never too late to change oneself's view on gambling. We are always able to resignify meanings in our life. Worldviews are moldable and must be done in a way it becomes more healthy and functional as possible. The first step is to wish a change, to evolve, to progress. Once it happens, it's totally possible for such gamblers to adopt a rational stance towards gambling through professional help and treatment, which pass across changing the worldviews they have over gambling.

I agree that you must have certain features of character to become a gambling addict. Most people never do because they're more down to earth. Gamblers are usually, as they say, walking with their head in the clouds. They're optimists, they're dreamers, they're the types that like to project the outcome before it happens, like to think of the future, and have high ambitions. They have $100 in their pockets but act and think like someone with a thousand.
Unfortunately there's almost no way to save a certain type of gambler. If you stop him from betting too much in one place, he'll find a way to lose the money somehow by betting in a bar over some stupid trick, or a game of pool. I know blokes like that in person.

When I chatted with many gambling addicts or analyzed their personalities I saw that they didn't have a mindset other than optimism. In fact, due to the lack of a different mindset during the addiction process and constantly thinking positively, gambling addiction is triggered and these people gamble more. Generally, the factor that causes people who have recovered from gambling addiction to get out of this mindset is awareness. When a person becomes aware of his/her gambling addiction and the fact that he/she constantly loses money in gambling, he/she gets rid of his/her optimistic thoughts and realizes that this addiction is actually a bad thing and that he/she will not earn a regular income by gambling. In this case, if the person takes a step to get rid of gambling addiction and can stay away from gambling by controlling his/her own emotions he/she can completely get rid of gambling addiction over time.

In summary, it is possible to say that individuals addicted to gambling can't get rid of their gambling addiction because they think optimistically and after gaining awareness of this they get rid of their gambling addiction over a period of time. As someone who has previously experienced gambling addiction and then overcome it, I state these thoughts with confidence.

What is clear is that too much is not good, it's addictive. This affects the brain and way of thinking, an addict will not care about what he will do, what the results will be, no matter how bad it is. If left unchecked, it will be very dangerous, possibly threatening the economy, selling the house and other valuables, getting into debt and even stealing.

It's true that you say it all depends on self-control, maybe a feeling of regret can provide enlightenment and encouragement to stop things from getting worse.

Too much optimism is bad and if it's applied in gambling, you're going to be putting yourself in a much clearer space that no matter what you do as long as you're gambling then no one's will ever gonna stop you. And that's gonna result into a bad situation that you'll never like but can we stop them? As I've said, it's a clear space, a clear thing that no one's going to stop them from taking loans/debts and will use the money from there to gamble. Only themselves can stop their own point of view when the things don't go accordingly over their optimistic minds. There is always a limitation for everything and these gamblers will eventually realize that but only when it's too late.

Yes and in this light one would wonder if optimism is used in the right sense by gambling addicts or that they are miss using it and allowing it to work on them wrongly because when you see that you have lost 1,2,3 and more times but you decide to be positively optimistic to stay and keep trying on it, on what the basis is luck.

Optimistic is suppose to be used for what you can have little or some control and then you add or strengthen your effort to make it work. For example if you have failed in an example and you know you didn't prepare very well for the exam, hence you can be optimistic to pass next time because you know you had no effort in the first time and that if you strengthen your effort the next time then you are likely to pass but gambling is not that way because the effort is not on your on influence or control and this is why addicts keep going deep as optimistic gamblers.

It is true that a lack of risk management can make someone addicted to gambling because they are used to gambling brutally. Most people don't see the risks they have to face when gambling, even though it is very important to limit themselves. Managing their financial expenses and also gambling is very good as a self-limiter so they don't get addicted to gambling. and playing beyond the limits of a normal gambler

Gamblers are defensive they do not want to take pity from people, many of them are intelligent in addressing their behavior, they are optimistic because that's their reason to continue gambling.

If they want to make a big issue of their addiction, it's like they want help and they want to get out from their addiction, compulsive gamblers will not do that they will always downplay their addiction they treat it as normal, they think that addiction is ordinary and nothing to cause an alarm, a gambler who wants to get out from addiction will usually reach out and will make an issue on their addiction, if a gambler is not doing that, they want to continue to play.

Apart from being unable to control their emotions and finances, gambling addicts tend to increase the frequency of their playing, even though they know the consequences if they continue gambling. They continue to gamble, even though they are experiencing financial problems, because they think that gambling can solve everything, including financial problems.

And to find out the characteristics of someone who is addicted to gambling, those who are addicted to gambling tend to experience quite significant changes, both in their attitudes and behavior. For example, initially a person is quite patient and becomes someone who is emotional and easily irritated. And initially the person is quite productive and professional, but after he gets to know gambling and gets caught up in it, the person becomes someone who is lazy and performs poorly, and often loses focused because all he had in mind was gambling.

Optimism itself ain't the enemy when it comes to gambling. It's like salt in a dish – a little can enhance the flavor, but too much can ruin the whole meal. The key, lies in understanding the nature of the beast – the house edge, that pesky little gremlin that always takes a bite out of your winnings.

For some folks, that knowledge is enough to keep things in check. They see it as a cost of entry, a toll on the road to a good time. They gamble with money they can afford to lose, and even if they don't walk away dripping in gold, they get the thrill of the chase, the camaraderie of the casino floor, the escape from the everyday grind.

But for others, that understanding can be a double-edged sword. It can fuel the fire of that "pathological optimism" you mentioned, that little voice whispering, "Just one more spin, the odds are bound to change!" The house edge becomes a hurdle, not a deterrent, and the pursuit of defying it becomes a dangerous obsession.

That's where the true danger lies – not in the optimism itself, but in the disconnect from reality, the inability to accept the inherent disadvantage of the game. It's like playing with loaded dice, expecting to roll sixes every time. The thrill becomes desperation, the camaraderie turns into isolation, and the escape becomes a prison.