Topic: Few Trusted Escrow Providers (Read 4068 times)

Thank you shasan. Can you update it with the following?

I have updated the Trusted Escrow Provider's list. BPIP trust rank updated so I have rearranged it if there is any change.
Rank increased
zazarb 81 to 28.
willi9974 44 to 11.
SFR10 97 to 94
shasan 104 to 90
AB de Royse777 109 to 85
irfan_pak10 133 to 110
GazetaBitcoin 272 to 246

Rank Decreased:
MoparMiningLLC 9 to 11
willi9974 11 to 16
SFR10 94 to 96.
Username changed:
Royse777 to AB de Royse777

I have updated the Trusted Escrow Provider's list. BPIP trust rank updated so I have rearranged it if there is any change.
Rank increased
MoparMiningLLC 12 to 9.
willi9974 44 to 11.
SFR10 97 to 94
GazetaBitcoin 340 to 272


Rank Decreased:
OgNasty 4 to 5
zazarb 26 to 81

Username changed:
Royse777 to AB de Royse777

BPIP profile link changed for several users from https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=username to https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Username

Added, think you.

New Profile added:

133

irfan_pak10

Ann

NA but accept tips/gifts

And

104

shasan

Ann

1% (also it can be set via discussion)

Hey shasan!

There is one more escrow provider which can be listed: irfan_pak10. his ANN thread is here
At same time, you can add yourself as well. Of course, if you consider yourself good enough for listing in the list from your OP

I come back on this matter as I just discussed with zazarb about Dab's loan (0.605 BTC): he defaulted it. He almost with 1 year overdue. At same time, most likely defaulted also a 16.800$ loan owed to DarkStar_. I tagged him but there are low chances to see him again, since he is inactive for 6 months already.

shasan, I saw that irfan_pak10 opened ANN for his escrow [ANN][bptrades] Escrow Services for Secure Trading - Buy & Sell Safely - 0 Fees
He is an older member, I have seen before that he offers an escrow service it can be considered that he is not a beginner and already has certain references. I assume that he has grounds to be on your list.

I have updated the Trusted Escrow Provider's list. BPIP trust rank updated so I have re-arranged it if there is any change.
Rank increased
zazarb 27 to 26
GazetaBitcoin 428 to 340

Rank Decreased:
willi9974   15 to 44
SFR10 82 to 97
SebastianJu 71 to 118

Added:

140

Royse777

Ann

Need to Ask

I asked you questions because right before you suddenly had a coin that was not funded - you were on the forums requesting to buy 2fa coins that were not funded or were redeemed.

then suddenly you had one that "wasn't funded" and would provide no proof of where you got it - no way to verify that the coin was not the one you bought unfunded

now you could be 100% genuine and all that - all I did was ask for verification - and you instantly called me an accomplice. \

you have also accused numerous other very well standing members of this community of the same thing - Mikhail, Lesbian Cow and others

Just because you dont like back up your claims with actual proof when questioned does not make those that question you a "scammer"

show me one person - from the hundreds I have dealt with - that has been scammed by anything I have done or sold them - you will find none.

I have processed several hundred thousands of dollars worth of BTC and alts for members of these forums, I run a legal LLC and have met several dozen members from these forums - at no point has anyone ever been scammed.

There have been 4 people who have had issues with me - Game Protect - known scammer, Rainbowsky - known asshole who has been banned multiple times, Vod - guy was great at one time but after some health conditions went south, he saw enemies where none were but has since removed his false negative on me and then there is you, all around dumb ass and moron who accuses everyone of being a scammer and an accomplice.

You bought a coin that was not funded - you never verified the balance - you are also in fact documented for requesting unfunded/redeemed coins and have verified feedback that you have made such purchases.

you first  stated you would not reveal where/who you got the coin so you wouldnt "incriminate" or possibly drag the seller in as they may not be involved.

your issue showed there was a bug in Titans DB - they had an active bounty for finding such bugs - you refused the bug bounty - which funnily enough was the same amount you claimed you were robbed of.

your issue was long before Titan started having issues - many people have redeemed numerous coins before "your issue" and many after "your issue" with no problem.

Titans issues arose when their site went to shit, their db went to shit and he was found to have invested and lost people's funds much later.

He is still somewhat trying to correct that. Albeit in a shit and insufficient way but still trying.

as for the whole "doxxing" when Tim went MIA - I posted the public information from the sites registration which did include an address.  It was later identified that this was his parents address.  

That address is thousands of miles from me - I have never been to it - where the fuck do you get the bullshit information you post?


You have stated I have harassed his mom, that I have suggested people to go there and exact "revenge" or to "settle the score" or w/e bullshit you made up --- none of it is true.

also noted you posted the same address.

so if I am to get banned for it - so should you.

Now as I have requested - shut the fuck up about me - you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You are some pussy ass keyboard warrior who would probably scream and run from your own shadow in person.

You have also accused the only person to successfully shut down an exchange with 100% of all customers funds being returned of being a Chinese spy.

If you have something further to say - come to my address - it's public and easily found and run your mouth. Otherwise shut the fuck up and fuck off already.

MoparMiningLLC comes to a scam accusation thread, finds the original victim who warned all the others 7 years ago, singles that person out for over 18 months of personal harassment, accusing the VICTIMS of malfeasance and "deserving" to be scammed.

Yep, that's exactly what an accomplice to the scam would do.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62709988

MoparMiningLLC also DOXXED the MOTHER of a user of this site, posting her personal residential address to this site:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58380791

Apparently, as I understand, he even WENT to this residential address, trying to settle an old score over a cash transaction gone wrong. I recommended that others go to the police, FBI, SEC, and FINSEC, for legal recourse, to file complaints about the scam. I didn't post residential addresses of a user's mother, and try to harass a user in person, like MoparMiningLLC did. MoparMiningLLC should be BANNED from this site, for DOXXING!!!

So just consider, if you want to do business with a guy who shows up in scam accusation threads to personally harass and hound the VICTIMS, while doxxing people and trying to settle scores in person, instead of going to the police when things go wrong.

Take MoparMiningLLC off the trusted escrow list. He's a fucking psycopath, and not to be trusted. I'm warning you about him.

This is a guy who is known for doxxing and showing up at people's houses over crypto transactions. Don't give him your physical address, I would consider it a major security risk.

pay this lying individual no mind. I have never ripped anyone off - every single accusation he has posted is fictional - has zero actual backing to make.

He has a vendetta because I question his statements asking for proof. DYOR - Read the threads around Titan, you will see I am no accomplice.

MoparMiningLLC should be taken off this list, he's a known scammer and accomplice to the Titan Mint scam. Ask Charlie Lee about how MoparMiningLLC was trying to sell Ballet wallets in the Titan Mint scam accusation threads, where he accuses the VICTIMS of malfeasance. Unbelievably low-class. Now he no longer represents Ballet wallets it seems. I was the first victim back in 2016 who told people not to trust Tim Fillmore from Titan Mint, now I'm here warning you not to trust MoparMiningLLC.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62706882

Yes sure. Please feel free.

Cheers,

Oh this is something new. Thank you for clearing things out.

I was not aware of that and, most likely, shasan was also not aware. Now that you cleared out this aspect I believe that shasan will list you also in the OP. There were too few active escrows anyway. They were 8 until now and, if shasan will add you to OP, their number will become 9. It's still a very small number, considering how big is this forum, but it is what it is.

Should your campaign management thread be used also as the ANN for escrow service?

I do offer escrow service up to 1 BTC. Feel free to check it from my service banner. I have no certain fees, depending on the type of deal, I set my service fees. There are several escrow already were done except the projects I am managing. Escrow service for TheLead123 and mixerdream is one of them.

You are right that Royse777 is not acting as escrow for the forum users. Royse777 might act as an escrow if requested but Royse777 has no open announcement thread. And also Royse777 act as escrow only for this project which managing by Royse777. Yet it could be considered as escrow service if there is an announcement thread of providing escrow service.

The escrow providers from OP are added based on their own ANN threads. Royse never created such thread and, therefore, he was not listed. I also never heard about him acting as escrow for deals between forum users. I know he offer this service for his signature campaigns, but not also for "regular" deals.

Hhampuz was not listed anymore as he is not offering escrow service anymore. If you'll read among pages of this thread you'll see that either I or shasan tried, in the past, to contact all users which have an ANN thread for escrow services, in order to see if they are still acting as escrows.

Coming back to Hhampuz, this is what he said:

The same question came to my mind about few other members who actually provide escrow services, whether to parties they work with personally or to other parties for a fee. Take, for example, manager Royse777 who provides escrow service in addition to campaign management services he run, and he does this with complete professionalism. Also, manager Hhampuz, who I remember did not mind at one time providing escrow services for one of the donation campaigns for those affected by the Corona quarantine period.
Do they have to be included on your list at their request or are there other conditions?

Thank you very much for the suggestion about escrow. Actually, I need more time to maintain escrow service professionally. I am holding a few funds as escrow which has been mentioned on here. Hopefully, think may run the service at the end of this year o the beginning of the next year. Wish you good luck.

Hey shasan, thank you for another update and for keeping this tread reflecting accurate information about all escrow providers.

I have a question though. I noticed this post of yours, where you are willing to help someone with escrow service. I also saw the other post, where you mentioned that you can escrow up to 5000$. Considering these, I was wondering why you don't list yourself within this thread as an escrow provider. You have a lot of experience with financial deals from your lending service and seeing also that you are willing to help someone now, maybe you can make it a general service provided by you?

You have a good reputation and I believe you are able to offer a professional escrow service.

I have updated the Trusted Escrow Provider's list. BPIP trust rank updated so I have rearranged it if there is any change.
Rank increased
willi9974 40 to 15
zazarb 74 to 27
SebastianJu 136 to 71
SFR10 105 to 82
GazetaBitcoin 523 to 428

Rank Decreased:
MoparMiningLLC 11 to 12

Saw them bumping their escrow ANN so-

110

DireWolfM14

Ann

Free for trades between two individuals; nominal fee for campaigns, games & rounds or other businesses

Fee excerpt - in case someone wants to rephrase the "Fee" bit better:

Thank you for this new update, shasan!

Now the topic is 100% up to date and it contains only active, valid and reliable escrows!



While it is somehow surprising to see that, out of 3.5M users, only 8 act as escrow, at least those looking for such service will find help if they read this topic.

For comparison, we can take a look at the obsolete lists from the other two topics related to escrow services: first one contains 11 users, from which only 4 are valid, while second topic contains 14 users, from which only 6 are valid. Practically, any user find those threads, by pure unluck, will have 50-70% chances to contact an invalid escrow and be scammed, wait for nothing, lose their deal, risk having their PM reported etc.

I am more than happy to see this topic offering only valid information and I will try to bring my contributions to keep it up in the topics list of Service Discussion board, by bumping it from time to time with valuable information.

Rank increased
SFR10 106 to 105

Rank Decreased
willi9974 36 to 40
zazarb 73 to 74
SebastianJu 135 to 136
bittawm 150 to 151
GazetaBitcoin 522 to 523

The rest are unchanged.

151

bittawm

Ann

0.9% BTC & 1.5% altcoin

I have removed bittawm as bittawm is offline for more than 4 months and is unresponsive to GazetaBitcoin's message.

Sorry, his fees are not fixed. When anyone will use him as escrow he will fix his fee.

Thank you as well for this update, shasan!

I also noticed that there is no fee mentioned for Sebastian Ju and you wrote in OP "Need to ask". Would you like me to ask him? Or can you PM him for letting us know his fee as well?

And I also noticed that there is one more user which needs to be removed: bittawm. I also contacted him in January and, as I said before, he never replied:


We are already in April and he never replied to my PM. Besides, he was last active more than 4 months ago and he never updated his thread since May 2018.

178

John (John K.)

Ann

1.5% long terms 2.0%+

I have removed him from my list base on your suggestion and as he is not active on the forum. Last active was more than 4 months ago. Though I have not sent him PM(I guess) yet I have faith on you and removed him from the list, thank you.

Thank you for updating this topic regularly, shasan! I also wanted to suggest you to remove Dabs for the reason you stated and also for the fact that he never replied to my PM from January.

Other than that, please also remove John (John K.). He also never replied to my PM from January. Besides, this user was last seen in November last year and, more important, his last post was made on April 8th, 2020, which is 3 years ago. There is no reason for keeping him in the list.

This was also suggested by PX-Z here, in February and by me as well, also in February.

Besides, you said


If you PMed John K. and he did not reply to you as well, I believe it's safe to remove him from the list. As far as I remember, last time when I talked to him (which happened in 2020), he told me that although he still browses the forum from time to time, he is not active anymore. You can also see that by looking at the date of his last post. Considering these, there is no reason for keeping him the the list of escrow providers.

208

Dabs

Ann

1-2% (with a 0.03BTC min)

I have removed Dabs from the trusted escrow provider list as Dabs has an active loan and based on the required time I can't see any repayment also there is no announcement about the time extension. Also after the required time, there is no login. Once there is an update or repaid the loan I will add Dabs again to the trusted escrow provider list.

Recently, A user created a reputation thread regarding Dabs Escrow service. You can read it here; Dabs for to offer escrow service?. Dabs' is having some difficulties with his financial Condition. The guy pointed it out, but we haven't heard anything from Dabs. He has some active loans from zazarb and DarkStar_ (which is why T3PR00T created that thread). I am unsure if he is still acting as escrow since I haven't asked him personally.

Moreover, His ANN thread didn't get any replies since 2021. When the last time he replied, His minimum fee was 0.03 BTC which is too much considered the Bitcoin Market Today. I believe he is discontinued his service, or maybe he is not updating for some reason. May you want to make sure by contacting Dabs?

Rank increased
MoparMiningLLC 13 to 11
zazarb 75 to 73
Dabs 213 to 208
GazetaBitcoin 530 to 522

Rank Decreased
willi9974 15 to 36
SebastianJu 80 to 135
SFR10 94 to 106
bittawm 126 to 150
John (John K.) 143 to 178
ninjaboon  558 to 702

702

ninjaboon

Ann

1%

Has been removed as the user is offline since October 07, 2022, 06:49:09 AM which is about 6 months. I will add it again if the user becomes active again.

NA

BitCoinDream

Ann

Free

Has been removed as the user is usually inactive and the important thing is that the list is based on trust but the user is not on the top 1000 trusted users. And also there is no positive trust in the profile of BitCoinDream.

Thank you for deleting this users too, thus making the list from OP even more accurate. If you remember I told you about their refusal since Feb 3rd... In any case, it is good that you contacted them and you got your own confirmation about their position.

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Well, on the same basis you contacted krogoth and Hhampuz, without thinking you disturb them, right? There is no point in thinking you will disturb someone if you ask him about his service.


Besides, please remember I also suggested you on Feb third to contact those from which we have no news about and see if they are still offering their service, and you agreed to contact them...


So don't let yourself think that you may disturb someone... You won't. Think about what happens if some users contact them after seeing them in your list and they will either receive no answer or they'll be told (by ninjaboon / BitCoinDream) they are not escrows anymore. It would be a time lost by those users which are contacting escrows which are not escrows anymore. They may even lose precious deals if they PM an escrow and the escrow never replies. This is why it's important to have the list very accurate.

If you want, I can try to PM them, I have no problem with that.

ninjaboon is Last Active: on October 07, 2022, 04:49:09 AM which is less than 6 months offline. I have planned to see the status for 6 months. I could do it faster by sending a message if they could reply to the message that could be fine for keeping it and if no response then I could remove it. But I do not want to send a message right now to disturb him/her.

BitCoinDream usually does not come on the forum but s/he used to come online if see any important message. And s/he was active only a few days ago (March 08, 2023, 02:11:02 PM).

For krogothmanhattan I sent a message today and I came to know that escrow is not provided any more by the krogothmanhattan. So, I have removed krogothmanhattan from the list.

3

krogothmanhattan

Ann

1% (0.002BTC min)

For Hhampuz: I have received a reply and I have become confirmed that he is not providing escrow anymore. So, I have removed it from the list.

2

Hhampuz

Ann

1% (0.002BTC min)

Thank you for this update, shasan!


Thank you also for this "purge", which brings the topic closer to reality.

Any news about ninjaboon and BitCoinDream? Have you tried to contact them? Besides, ninjaboon was last active on 07 October 2022.

Other than that, any news about krogothmanhattan and Hhampuz? As you remember they already told me they are not into escrow services anymore.


Have you tried to contact them...? Have they told you something else...?

I have updated the Trusted Escrow Provider's list. BPIP trust rank updated so I have rearranged it if there is any change.
Rank increased
MoparMiningLLC 14 to 13
bittawm 127 to 126
Dabs 215 to 213
TwinWinNerD 312 to 311
GazetaBitcoin 535 to 530
ninjaboon  707 to 558

I have removed Blazed as Blazed is offline from October 27, 2020, 12:14:27 AM

6

Blazed

Ann

Free or 1%

I have removed TwinWinNerD as TwinWinNerD is offline from May 31, 2021, 02:38:57 PM

311

TwinWinNerD

Ann

1% (0.01BTC min)

I have removed Dudeperfect as Dudeperfect is offline from August 02, 2022, 09:25:31 AM

NA

Dudeperfect

Ann

Free

Well, I think it's better, for accuracy purposes, to have listed only active users, and those which still offer escrow services. If they are inactive or if they ceased offering the service (such as krogoth or Hhampuz), what's the reason for listing them...? It may only lead to confusion. After all, not all users read Trust pages (especially if they are new on the forum). And listing some which don't offer escrow anymore may lead to have users contacting them asking for escrow, while they are not interested in doing this anymore... (They could also report those PMs as being unsolicited, which may lead to other problems.)

Same is true about inactive ones: some users (which do not read Trust pages) may contact inactive ones and wait, in vain, for them to answer. This may also lead to having deals cancelled and so on...

And, after all, the purpose of this topic was to correct what was inaccurate in the other two topics about escrows... And what was inaccurate there was the fact that they contain obsolete users (inactive or which stopped acting as escrows) and the topic authors are no longer interested in having their topics up to date. Now, since a third topic was created, let's have this one, at least, up to date

In addition to this, I think it'd be better if "LoyceV's Trust score images" was also part of the table ^{[apart from its first step, everything else is automated]}.

• Quote from: shasan on March 04, 2023, 01:03:21 PM
  Rank increased
  ...
  Zazarb 76 to 73
  
  Rank Decreased:
  ...
  zazarb 73 to 75
  
  Wait a minute, why zazarb got two updates ^{[it's not fair haha ]}?

An active/inactive tag would probably be the easier route. What do you think?

Hey shasan! Do you have any news on these matters?


Have you tried to contact krohoth and Hhampuz? Have they changed their minds? I see they are still in the list...


Besides, have you tried to contact these users too? Have they replied...?

I am asking because it is important to have this list properly updated... Let's avoid what happened in the other two threads about escrow providers

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And I also have a suggestion: topic title should be Few Trusted Escrow Providers, not "Provider" Can you add that extra "s" to "Provider", please?

I have updated the Trusted Escrow Provider's list. BPIP trust rank updated so I have rearranged it if there is any change.
Rank increased
krogothmanhattan 4 to 3
Blazed 8 to 6
Zazarb 76 to 73
willi9974 16 to 15
bittawm 139 to 127
John (John K.) 147 to 143
Dabs 216 to 215
TwinWinNerD 316 to 312
GazetaBitcoin 676 to 535
ninjaboon 709 to 707

Rank Decreased:
OgNasty 3 to 4
MoparMiningLLC 10 to 14
SebastianJu 56 to 80
zazarb 73 to 75
SFR10 83 to 94

This is both ridiculous and sad and it makes me remember that in 2018 I was also scammed by someone and also with 20$ (facepalm). Same as you, I did not believe that someone would be in such hunger to eat the dirt from under his fingernails and try a 20$ scam. I was wrong. Same as you...

Would you like to describe what happened? Do you have more details? Is there a topic which can be used as reference or screenshots of the discussion between you and the scammer, showing undeniable proof that he scammed you? If so, you can make  topic in Scam Accusation board, using the scam report format from here and the scammer will be exposed, limiting his future actions inside the forum. Besides, he may also be tagged with negative feedbacks by DT users. I hope this helps.


You can do it also for lower amounts, not just for big ones. See what just happened? You were scammed with 20$...

Thank you so much for the list!

It's very helpful especially for me as new user. I must use them in the future for the big amount transaction.

I was really shocked & just realized that there are so many scammer in here. And one of them just scammed me $20 today. Lol. I let them not use escrow service because i do never expect that someone will scam for $20 only. I can't imagine how poor they are in real life.

Welcome  

I will reply below to some parts of your post.

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What's confusing you? If it helps, here's his reply:



And this was my message:

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As I wrote in my previous post, I already PMed (on Jan 19th) OgNasty, SebastianJu, John (John K.), PsychoticBoy, Dabs, bittawm, willi9974, minerjones, zazarb, Lutpin, SFR10, Hhampuz, krogothmanhattan, realediston and MoparMiningLLC.
SebastianJu, John (John K.), PsychoticBoy, Dabs, bittawm, Lutpin and realediston have not replied until present day.

From my perspective it's useless to PM them again, for same matter. Unless you want to give it a second try (which is fine ). But it'll be just losing time, in case you'll do it.

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Great jobs in adding willi9974, MoparMiningLLC, OgNasty, updating stats for minerjones and myself and deleting Lauda!

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I already posted above krogothmanhattan's reply. Here is Hhampuz's reply:




From my perspective, only Blazed should be contacted, as he was the only one from your topic which did not appear in the other two (obsolete) topics. Considering I already contacted everybody else (all remaining users from your list appear also in the other two topics), only he remains to be contacted. But again, if you want to give everybody one more try, feel free to do it

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Yes.

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Have you also thought about another name for the topic? One which could match easier Google searches, thus it would appear in searches on top of the other two threads? Maybe "Active BitcoinTalk escrow providers"?

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Later edit: SebastianJu actually replied to me but, for some reason I did not see his PM in my inbox at first sight. He is still offering his service:


Everything else is correct though: John (John K.), PsychoticBoy, Dabs, bittawm, Lutpin and realediston have not replied until present day.

Confused about krogothmanhattan.

I will send a pm to those who are/will be inactive for more than a month. And I will wait for 7 days to get a response from them before removing them.
Done.

16

willi9974

Ann

1% (min. 0.002BTC

Added

10

MoparMiningLLC

Ann

1%

Ognasty is on the list from the beginning.
Updated though I could not see it on his ann thread.
I could not see any significant change. So, (except but will work with client to adjust as needed
) nothing changed.

Already same info on my list.

Will do but before then I will send them a message as they are already on the list.

Removed last week when I updated the list.

Done.

I will do so.

Do you mean the amount of the escrow or the fee of the escrow?

Thank you a lot GazetaBitcoin.

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BPIP trust rank updated so I have rearranged if there is any change.
Rank increased:
Zazarb 76 to 73
SebastianJu  78 to 56
SFR10   86 to 83
bittawm 139 to 127
John (John K.) 152 to 147
Dabs 234 to 216

Rank Decreased:
Blazed 6 to 8
TwinWinNerD 303 to 316
GazetaBitcoin 665 to 676
ninjaboon NA to 709

Hey shasan, great job with this topic! And thank you for listing me in OP!

As I said before, I had the intention to create such topic myself, without knowing about yours. Having this in mind, I contacted all escrow providers from the other two topics I knew and asked if they are still offering the service and if any change intervened regarding their charges / conditions. I PMed on Jan 19th the following users: OgNasty, SebastianJu, John (John K.), PsychoticBoy, Dabs, bittawm, willi9974, minerjones, zazarb, Lutpin, SFR10, Hhampuz, krogothmanhattan, realediston, MoparMiningLLC. So far only willi9974, minerjones, MoparMiningLLC, OgNasty, zazarb, Hhampuz, SFR10, and krogothmanhattan replied.

willi9974, minerjones, zazarb, SFR10, krogothmanhattan and MoparMiningLLC are still offering their services.

Hhampuz does not want to be listed. krogothmanhattan is not offering escrow service anymore.

Since SebastianJu, John (John K.), PsychoticBoy, Dabs, bittawm, Lutpin and realediston have not replied in almost a month I think it's safe to not have them listed. Besides, not all have an immaculated reputation here so it's better this way.

So here are the suggestions I have for you:

1. Remove SebastianJu, John (John K.), Dabs and bittawm, due to their inactivity. Since they are not active even on the forum (not to mention that they were unable to reply to a PM sent in their interest in almost one month) I don't think they are still interested.

2. Add willi9974. Here are his details:


5. Update zazarb's info:


I think that best reason for removing Lauda is that her account was banned at her own request

10. Regarding the note from my profile, respective:


can you change, please, "transaction" with "transactions"?

11. I suggest you to PM Blazed (although there are low chances for him to ever reply, since he was last active in 2020), TwinWinNerD, ninjaboon, BitCoinDream, and Dudeperfect, for making sure they are still offering the service.

12. Last, but not least: I would recommend you to add a column for min-max amounts and a column for what stuff the user is escrowing. Besides, maybe you can PM the final list and ask what yahoo62278 said in my thread from Meta -- "Do you think it's important to only add escrows to the list that can provide proof of funds for the amount they're willing to escrow? If users are truly supposed to feel safe with an escrow, then said escrow should be able to cover/insure a deal if something were to happen."

Anyway, this is up to you if you want or not to implement these changes.

I hope this helps. Let's make this thread the most visible upon Google searches! Maybe also a new topic title may help in Google searches.

Fair thought. But i would have put at least a "NSA" = Not Sure if Active or something similar status or just remove them temporarily or what.

Because escrows should be very responsible to update their ann threads at the very least to let their future clients knows their status. As their name goes up in every escrow list, scammers will find ways to copy them and find victims. Escrow list thread can help preventing such things to happen in some way.

That's the reality of how money can affect someone. A matter of fact it falls on "money is the root of all evil" thing.

You are obviously right. But those who have been scammed (turned into scammers) have a good reputation. In our country, we have a prover regarding police (Police who eat sweets and those police take bribes) and I think all the people have a trust limit except a limited number of people. For example, I may not scam 1000$ But I may scam 10000$. I have seen several cases like this both in the forum as well as in my real life.

Thanks for update! But fact that significant number of people from this list become scammers or ruined their reputation. Escrow isn't just some random service, it's thing where people trust other poeple with their money, and often it's big money. It shows that even most trusted members can turn into scammers one day, especially when there is big money on the table.

No idea, maybe someone who have closer contact with him may know. But seems that he is another famous Bitcointalk member who disappeared strangely :/.

I have not yet excluded based on the inactive only (I have removed based on inactive+red trust and/or only based on red trust or only based on the lock announcement thread). Soon (next week probably) I will update based on the inactive and I will consider an inactive user who is inactive for at least 90 days.

This 4 Dudeperfect, TwinWinNerD, ninjaboon, Blazed has no activity more than 5 months already they should be considered inactive.

While bittawm and John (John K.) is inactive since december, also their ann thread was last updated or has a reply more than 3 years at least, they should be considered as inactive in the list unless they post here or in their ann that they are still accepting escrow transactions.

Thank you for letting me know, I have just updated it.
I am sorry I do not know but I have still not updated the list base on only inactive. I will do that though.

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I have just found an escrow service announcement by GazetaBitcoin which I have added to the op.
If anyone can see any misinformation then please update me. Also please inform me if need to add/remove any user on the list, thanks in advance.

There's a small correction for Dabs: He updated his fees back in December of 2013 ^{[the minimum fee is 0.03BTC]}, but for some reason, he forgot to also update the opening post of the thread.

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Does anybody know why Blazed has been inactive for the past 27 months?

16

Lauda

Ann

1-2% (with a 0.005 BTC min)

I have removed Lauda as there are several negative trusts as well as inactive ones on the forum.

59

yogg

Ann

1% or 0.002BTC min

I have removed yogg from being turned into a scam as well as being inactive.

74

PsychoticBoy

Ann

1% Fee

I have removed PsychoticBoy for several negative trusts as well as inactive ones on the forum.

298

bL4nkcode

Ann

1% - 2% (0.001BTC min)

I have removed bL4nkcode from the list as bL4nkcode has several negative trust active flags supported by several DTs and was inactive just woke up recently from a long period of inactivity.

I will update edit/remove a few more later. I will also add a new escrow too if I can find out a new service.

Edit: I have just updated the trusted rank.
Edit:

5

DarkStar_

Ann

0.0005BTC, or 0.7%

I have removed DarkStar_ as DarkStar_ stopped escrow service.

213

ranochigo

Ann

1%

I have removed ranochigo as the announcement thread is locked.

Edit:
I have edited the escrow fee.

I guess OP should be somewhat updated, since it's been months after the last update and many things had changed, especially the trust rank.

Does it bother anyone else that currently the top 2 rated escrows on this list have escrowed (without transparency) an ICO that cost those who trusted them to safeguard their funds millions of dollars in losses and that they're only atop this list due to a circle of trust abuse along with their escrow partner, a documented extortionist?  

Earlier I have updated the list base on recognition rank but just now I have updated it base on the most trusted rank of BPIP. Note: There might have few mismatches as it can change anytime. I will try to update once a week or at least once per month.

OP did great job by making this topic, but I don't think that's very difficult to keep it up to date. Majority of escrow providers have builded their reputation in long years by providing their service, and it's not likely that someone of these people will become scammer or something similar

Thanks for the list everyone that needs an escrow should see this thread they can easily find trusted escrow, I personally liked bL4nkcode he pays on time in signature campaign that I joined. Its hard to maintain a thread like this what if one on the list got a bad behavior so you need to check one by one every time thanks for the effort.

Got your point and bitcointalk gave it's user's a lot of freedom. Anyone has a choice which escrow the person will and which will not. Also if anyone disagrees to use any escrow that might be ok if the other person is okay with that. Using escrow is safer than not using escrow. If the amount is too big then they should use multiple escrows instead of one.

Almost all users on the list are active and also they have several trade histories except 2 persons which I am still observing.

Most users knows that, if what escrow service he will use. The most recommended to use a service is an escrow who did active lately not just does have a numbers of trust.
And as what as I see, most in the list are active and can be trusted but there are few I don't consider.

Just a warning:  Even if someone looks to be trusted and have a long history of good behavior doesn't mean they won't turn out to scam if the price is right.  I have been a part of other forums/marketplaces before and saw my fair share of reputable members scamming after years of good service.  Just something to be aware of, most people have their price that they will scam for.

Thanks a lot for reminding me. I have added Lauda on the list. Also Updated your recognition rank as well as recognition rank of all the listed users on this topic. Thanks again.

Now I guess you have to include her due to her huge come back in dt1.

Also if you mind, would you update my recognition rank? as I see, 'twas been updated in bpip.org.

List updated.

48

Lauda

Ann

1-2% (with a 0.005 BTC minimum)

Has been excluded from my trusted escrow list as Lauda has negative trust.


You are always welcome. Hence you are the number 1 escrow among my list.

I have just updated the list. As recognition rank change, I have to update regularly. I have just update for that. Few entries have been reformatted.

Added:

45

krogothmanhattan

Ann

1%

Done.
Added
Included.

It's good to see their consistent providing escrow that's not turn into scam.

I was talking about master-p incident 

Since you individually listed CET members (minerjones & Lauda), then you might as well include "Blazed" to the list (ann thread).

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Ranks for few users needs to be updated

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On a side note:

You can add the following website to that thread: Payment methods
- Useful for #3 on your list.

I have removed these names from Few Trusted Escrow Provider list. As they are inactive more than 1 month. If anyone inform their availability or I can see they came back I will add again.

26	Tomatocage	Ann	BTC 1%, Altcoin 3-5%
84	Monbux	Ann	1% (0.006BTC minimum)
284	devthedev	Ann	1% or 0.01BTC minimum
933	Blazr	Ann	1%
>1000	Lyth0s	Ann	1%

Thanks for the explanation! I don't think it's too off-topic, honestly, it's a part of the chart that the OP has created and there's not really an explanation here about bpip here anywhere, nor the recognization system. Also wasn't aware that Vod created BPIP; for anyone reading this thread that wants some more information on BPIP, there's a thread on the topic here. Seems like a lot more info is interspersed throughout this forum, but I managed to find this main ANN thread.

It's a bit off-topic, but you can find more information about recognition on Bitcointalk here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-recognized-are-you-in-the-bitcointalk-world-4799468
Shorty, it's combination of trust, activity and merit.

Nice that someone decided to recompile a list of escrow providers; the one I used to link everyone is now rather outdated, and there hasn't been another one since that one that has been of decent size. I also suggest that you regularly browse the forum to see whether or not certain members have become less reputable, or if disputes are happening between users; there's not much use to a escrow list if it isn't regularly updated. Still, good work!

I also wasn't aware a site like bpip.org existed, seems like a good database of users on this forum. Pretty interesting to browse through profiles and ratings on the forum, they don't mean much in the grand scheme of things but I like seeing things like this. It's a shame they don't have a FAQ on how things like most recognized are ranked.

As for certain members like philipma1957 no longer providing escrow services, I would suggest messaging such users to determine if your item or service can be escrowed. At the end of the day, it takes seconds to read a message and it really can't hurt unless the user in question doesn't have a thread or anything on the forums stating their minimums and restrictions (like phil). I recall escrowing some items with Phil, and he stated the minimums he would escrow about a year back, but things change.

it's hard to maintain a thread like this. OP has initiated a good thing which was already done by serveral other people. including marcotheminer's thread about Escrow providers. that was very trusted thread and everyone use that in their referrences.
but that thread also got out of dated like others. lets see how OP of this thread do now.

As users above said, there are few more older overviews of escrow providers, but not all of them are updated. If you already made this list, don't forget to update it in future . It's nice that you used Recognition ranks from BPIP. How you can improve this thread? Maybe show trust score of escrow provider. It's best indicator to identify trusted escrow. Also, you may improve layout of your post, make a table like it's popular to do in other overview threads, list some additional information about service provider.

Just made the list. I will make any changes which required. If long time no activity there is no benefit either they are good escrow or not.

I hope that updating your list is based on login activity. I mean if the member is not active, there is no need to list him here.
There are some people in your list that are not available like    Tomatocage [Last Active:May 04, 2018, 01:46:06 AM], Blazr [Last Active:July 06, 2018, 10:54:56 AM], and lyth0s [Last Active:March 01, 2018, 06:39:06 AM].

Also, I remember that some members provide an escrow ex: philipma1957, I do not know if he still provides that service or not.

Yes, it is based on recognition rank.
exactly.
Okay, will add trust rating.

I know there's that older and more established list mentiomed above but if this list is also somewhat based on bpip recognition rank, then it does have added value. Trust and activity used in old thread.

Also, the min amounts and fees are updated here, old thread isn't clear or inaccurate.

Better would be to combine both, though, even if it's just a starting point. A simple aggregate of ratings from past users would be nice too.

Thanks for the suggestion. I have searched and saw that post. But I have added them on another way. Also:

Many threads available to explain the escrows and many more service provider things. If you wish to share knowledgeable things about forum users or anything relevant to the forum you must need to search that using the above search bar then you post it mate.

Keep on sharing the same thing will bulge up the forum no more use from it.

I have added few additional escrow, exclude escrow who has no ann thread, Placed them according to Recognition Rank of BPIP.

There's already a similar thread of list of escro providers with more details included in it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2955628
I think that it's stll active. The last post is from September 10 and the thread seem to be updated. It just need to be bumped so everyone else can see it.

Nowadays there are a lot of scammers and to avoid scammer is too difficult. That's why many traders want to use escrow service. Any reputed member can be an escrow. There is a lot of escrow of them I have listed few. You may select it. I have placed them base on Trusted Rank of bpip. This Recognition Rank does not mean or certify that the first one is better or the last one is worse. I have mentioned details while use escrow makes a little research.
Note: fees can be changed by anytime and also escrow may change their service anytime. I am not responsible for any escrow fraud. If anyone wants to be added or want to add someone on this list please comment your/their ann I will add on it. Happy trading.
Note 2: Don't beleive anyone blindly. If anyone ask to change wallet id out of bitcointalk then make confirm it from bitcointalk. Also you may see Strategy of Scamming People!

Trusted Rank	Profile	Ann	Fee
1	minerjones	Ann	1% (with a 0.001BTC min)
5	OgNasty	Ann	1% (0.002 BTC min)/ For USDT $50 (TRC20) or $100 (ERC20) + 1% of the total
11	MoparMiningLLC	Ann	1%
16	willi9974	Ann	1% (min. 0.002BTC
28	zazarb	Ann	1% (with min 0.001BTC)
61	SebastianJu	Ann	Need to Ask
85	AB de Royse777	Ann	Need to Ask
90	shasan	Ann	1% (also it can be set via discussion)
96	SFR10	Ann	1% (0.0005BTC min)
110	irfan_pak10	Ann	NA but accept tips/gifts
246	GazetaBitcoin	Ann	Free for the first transactions after completing the first transactions fees will be added.

Last Update:
6th April 2024