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November 23, 2022, 02:13:41 AM
The coach behind Saudi Arabia is a genius and underrated.
Argentina shocking lost to Saudi Arabia 2-1 in their first game in the world cup. Argentina had three additional goals in the first half but all we're disallowed due to an offside position. It's really pain to see one of the tough country to lose their opening game, especially now that they will have to fight for a winning in their next game. Pretty an amazing results for Saudi Arabia and they have even declared a public holiday in accordance to celebrate their winning.
Saudi Arabia manager has used rare tactic that offside trap lately hasn't used anymore for most of famous managers but he used it yesterday against Argentina and the result is Argentina players looks confused start to attacking because their players were trapped in the same tactic so i have to says Saudi Arabia manager is briliant and besides that they know the quality of Argentina players were above them so that's why Saudi Arabia used 5 midfielder players attempts to guard midfield players from Argentina and this also successfully to implemented and it caused lack of ball supply to Martinez and Messi during the match which is Argentina didn't get much opportunities to scoring goals
Saudi Arabian coach used understandable high pressure, to which the Argentines were not ready, they thought that the Arabia will stand in defense and look for chances in rare counter-attacks, but to the surprise of Argentina, the Arabia combined, went to attack, played very sharp in their attacks.
In general, the coach of Saudi Arabia is very experienced, he has won the championship of Africa twice before with different countries!
It seems no one has ever repeated his record.
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November 23, 2022, 02:08:43 AM
it was clear that Argentina's forward line had problems, bad enough when they failed to score a goal in normal play against a side so far below their quality.
Saudi Arabia played freely without any burden and they took advantage of the careless lines of the Argentine defense.
Argentina should do it better in their first conceded goal but in the second one, it is impossible because Saudi Arabian player was too excellent in that moment. It is like one and only one moment in career of that player. Argentina still shown their dangerous attacking and they were lack a bit of luckiness to have other goals in the match. Offside trap can work perfectly like yesterday for Saudi Arabia but in another day, it might kill them.

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Mexico and Poland are the next opponents, it's not impossible for Argentina who have quality games and players who are quite capable.
No need to look back and regret about missing opportunities. Argentina must win all two rest matches to go next. They won't have time to be sad and waste their mentality as well as energy for the loss. I really want to see Messi and Argentina go far in this World Cup because it is a last World Cup for Messi and Argentina is one of strongest teams this year.
I think Argentina will learn from the mistakes they made against Saudi Arabia and win the next two matches. Because the Argentina team has the ability to beat Mexico and Poland. The Argentina team knows that if they lose one of their next two matches, their World Cup journey could end in the first round.
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November 23, 2022, 02:06:55 AM
Wednesday 23rd November
Morocco 10:00 Croatia
Germany 13:00 Japan
Spain 16:00 Costa Rica
Belgium 19:00 Canada

Source: https://www.skysports.com/world-cup-fixtures

Games of the day, underwhelming games for today.
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November 23, 2022, 01:55:02 AM
Ops had a great opportunity to get a huge win in yesterday's match.  If you could have bet your $114 for Saudi Arabia when they offered 100x you would have received $11400 in return which would have made you rich instantly.  However it was not on our foreheads so we missed out rather lost our money.  Argentina gave us a big pain through this match

This would had been a risky bet as Argentina almost won that game if not for the newly introduced offside calls that saw two goals get cancelled. Argentina is a football power house and was meant to win that game but the Saudis got lucky today. The Saudis had their fans behind them and that helped them alot because they were least favorite in that match. Argentina still has a chance of qualifying from the group stages.
They must win the next two games to do so and although the pressure is now on them but still they can defeat those nation. Argentina is the third best country according to FIFA ranking and they have the best player playing for them with other talents. Argentina can still win the world cup as well.


This is what we thought before the match started no country from Asia will be able to beat Argentina but the fact Argentina was defeated
Moments like this often occur in several top tournaments one of the most memorable moments was at Euro 2004 Greece won the Euro Cup
So we can't predict which country will win in this world cup especially after Saudi Arabia proved it.
What are you saying? Because we witnessed a rude shock between Argentina and Saudi Arabia yesterday does not mean that the world cup is not predictable. Personally, I don't have high hope for Argentina as many people do and all my predictions are working 100% so far. This world cup is highly predictable for now, one big shock is not the end of the game. Regardless of the loss, I still support Argentina to qualify for the group stage. They often struggle at times before making it to the last 16.
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November 23, 2022, 01:50:18 AM
This is what we thought before the match started no country from Asia will be able to beat Argentina but the fact Argentina was defeated
Moments like this often occur in several top tournaments one of the most memorable moments was at Euro 2004 Greece won the Euro Cup
So we can't predict which country will win in this world cup especially after Saudi Arabia proved it.
You are not wrong, Argentina was the hope of everyone, it was a good day for gambling sites as people were not happy when Saudi Arabia won, but such disappointment is in football. World cup is usually won by European or South American countries, Saudi Arabia won Argentina, but my stance still remain that Africa, Asia or other country from other continent than Europe or South American will not still win this year, this is still even just the group stage.
Either all the world is happy or not but Saudi world is celebrating this victory like a festivity as they have announced a holiday today for celebrating victory and they were distributing feasts yesterday as a token of celebration in their country.  For teams like Saudi Arabia yesterday was an historical day and lifetime memorable win .
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November 23, 2022, 01:42:34 AM
This is what we thought before the match started no country from Asia will be able to beat Argentina but the fact Argentina was defeated
Moments like this often occur in several top tournaments one of the most memorable moments was at Euro 2004 Greece won the Euro Cup
So we can't predict which country will win in this world cup especially after Saudi Arabia proved it.
You are not wrong, Argentina was the hope of everyone, it was a good day for gambling sites as people were not happy when Saudi Arabia won, but such disappointment is in football. World cup is usually won by European or South American countries, Saudi Arabia won Argentina, but my stance still remain that Africa, Asia or other country from other continent than Europe or South American will not still win this year, this is still even just the group stage.
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November 23, 2022, 01:33:36 AM
The coach behind Saudi Arabia is a genius and underrated.
I agree with this.
Regardless of how most people think that Saudi Arabia is playing quite boring, I feel that it is indeed difficult for them to play openly against a team of Argentina's caliber which is very much the favorite, so carrying out a defensive scheme like this is definitely something that is really good to do.
On the other hand, for the world cup this time, there have been 2 surprises, indeed what happened after England played with the highest score. of course this will be a little difficult for their competition in reaching the next round.

Well I've been thinking about this, and if I can come to the conclusion that the Arabian manager is a great coach, and I'm sure they'll drag him to Europe, in fact I'd like him to be at Man United rather than Ten Hag, apart from this I think that the forward they have in Arabia is unique, I think that they have a phenomenal future if they continue to explode, because apart from playing well, I think that Arabia has a very great explosiveness and their players are quite good as to follow the same model of strategies that they used for Argentina, what I see from here is that if Arabia continues to play like this, they can be very successful.

It remains to be seen how it continues to unfold in the next matches, but the future I see for this World Cup can make many appusetas go down, because this World Cup is giving many surprises.
because seeing this match I was looking for some achievements from Herve Renard after the surprise that happened for Argentina but indeed this coach turned out to be one of the cold-blooded coaches for surprises because apart from now he has also given several other surprises like in 2012 he succeeded in becoming a champion with Zambia which incidentally is not very favored for the Africa Cup of Nations.
Apart from that, in 2015 he also brought Ivory Coast to win the same championship and in 2018 he managed to bring Morocco to the world cup and this year his surprise was in Saudi Arabia. Obviously this is a pretty good achievement, especially if you see the euphoria that was carried out by Saudi Arabia, it seems they are happy with this, even the Saudi kingdom has announced that today they are on holiday because they won 2-1 over Argentina Wink.
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November 23, 2022, 01:15:21 AM
Ops had a great opportunity to get a huge win in yesterday's match.  If you could have bet your $114 for Saudi Arabia when they offered 100x you would have received $11400 in return which would have made you rich instantly.  However it was not on our foreheads so we missed out rather lost our money.  Argentina gave us a big pain through this match

This would had been a risky bet as Argentina almost won that game if not for the newly introduced offside calls that saw two goals get cancelled. Argentina is a football power house and was meant to win that game but the Saudis got lucky today. The Saudis had their fans behind them and that helped them alot because they were least favorite in that match. Argentina still has a chance of qualifying from the group stages.
They must win the next two games to do so and although the pressure is now on them but still they can defeat those nation. Argentina is the third best country according to FIFA ranking and they have the best player playing for them with other talents. Argentina can still win the world cup as well.


This is what we thought before the match started no country from Asia will be able to beat Argentina but the fact Argentina was defeated
Moments like this often occur in several top tournaments one of the most memorable moments was at Euro 2004 Greece won the Euro Cup
So we can't predict which country will win in this world cup especially after Saudi Arabia proved it.
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November 23, 2022, 01:11:23 AM
it was clear that Argentina's forward line had problems, bad enough when they failed to score a goal in normal play against a side so far below their quality.
Saudi Arabia played freely without any burden and they took advantage of the careless lines of the Argentine defense.
Argentina should do it better in their first conceded goal but in the second one, it is impossible because Saudi Arabian player was too excellent in that moment. It is like one and only one moment in career of that player. Argentina still shown their dangerous attacking and they were lack a bit of luckiness to have other goals in the match. Offside trap can work perfectly like yesterday for Saudi Arabia but in another day, it might kill them.

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Mexico and Poland are the next opponents, it's not impossible for Argentina who have quality games and players who are quite capable.
No need to look back and regret about missing opportunities. Argentina must win all two rest matches to go next. They won't have time to be sad and waste their mentality as well as energy for the loss. I really want to see Messi and Argentina go far in this World Cup because it is a last World Cup for Messi and Argentina is one of strongest teams this year.
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November 23, 2022, 01:09:54 AM
I think, Argentina coach need to introduce new tactics that will help the team to win their remaining two matches so that they will be able to stand well as the best in the group. Argentina really played well in the first half that made many people to believe that Argentina will defeat Saudi Arabia in the second half but match turned for the favour of Saudi Arabia to defeated Argentina 2-1 in the second half. I believe, Argentina will definitely get it right in their remaining matches, because their coach will not allow such thing to happen again that will make them to lose points than to do everything possible within his power to help the team to embrace their points from the match.

How can you say that Argentina played well in the first half, when they wasted so many good opportunities? They had ball possession and that was it. Argentines underestimated their opponents, despite fully knowing the fact that Saudi Arabia is playing in close to home conditions. And they paid the price for this. The only goal scored by Argentina came from a penalty. The well renowned attack of Lionel Messi, Ángel Di María, Lautaro Martínez and Paulo Dybala failed to score a single goal against such a weak opponent through the normal mode.
it was clear that Argentina's forward line had problems, bad enough when they failed to score a goal in normal play against a side so far below their quality.
Saudi Arabia played freely without any burden and they took advantage of the careless lines of the Argentine defense.

This defeat was quite surprising when Argentina had a good record before the world cup took place but they had to accept a humiliating defeat in the first match.

there is a lot to fix in the Argentina team but I personally still believe they will go further and rise, this is only the first match and they must win the next 2 matches to qualify from group C
Mexico and Poland are the next opponents, it's not impossible for Argentina who have quality games and players who are quite capable.
Argentina underestimated this Saudi Arabia team and now they’re without a point in the group they thought was an easy run. But again, failing to win your opening World Cup game does not necessarily doom a nation where its chances of becoming champion are concerned. Argentina face Mexico on Saturday in a must-win game if they want to progress from the group, followed by Poland. I expect from their coach is that, he should address some glaring errors that were committed against the Saudis. Assuming they can do that, this is still most definitely a team that can become champions.
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November 23, 2022, 01:08:03 AM
Watched the whole Argentina vs Saudi Arabia match. I was so impressed by their tactical masterclass. They played a high line of defense with subtle offside traps, and Argentina got a whopping 7 offside in the first half alone, more than they got in their entire 2018 World Cup run with three goals disallowed.

The coach behind Saudi Arabia is a genius and underrated.
Argentina's hope is still there in the 2022 World Cup even though they surprisingly lost 1-2 to Saudi Arabia in the first match yesterday.
Saudi Arabia from the start played with a fast tempo and a little hard so that Argentina's first goal scored by Lionel Messi came from the penalty spot for a foul they made.

I think Saudi Arabia against Argentina is different from Saudi Arabia at the 2018 World Cup in Russia. It could be because of their current coach who made them perform well who managed to beat Argentina.
But it's still very early for us to judge them. They still have a few more games to play.
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November 23, 2022, 12:48:59 AM
Ops had a great opportunity to get a huge win in yesterday's match.  If you could have bet your $114 for Saudi Arabia when they offered 100x you would have received $11400 in return which would have made you rich instantly.  However it was not on our foreheads so we missed out rather lost our money.  Argentina gave us a big pain through this match

This would had been a risky bet as Argentina almost won that game if not for the newly introduced offside calls that saw two goals get cancelled. Argentina is a football power house and was meant to win that game but the Saudis got lucky today. The Saudis had their fans behind them and that helped them alot because they were least favorite in that match. Argentina still has a chance of qualifying from the group stages.
They must win the next two games to do so and although the pressure is now on them but still they can defeat those nation. Argentina is the third best country according to FIFA ranking and they have the best player playing for them with other talents. Argentina can still win the world cup as well.
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November 23, 2022, 12:30:31 AM
I think, Argentina coach need to introduce new tactics that will help the team to win their remaining two matches so that they will be able to stand well as the best in the group. Argentina really played well in the first half that made many people to believe that Argentina will defeat Saudi Arabia in the second half but match turned for the favour of Saudi Arabia to defeated Argentina 2-1 in the second half. I believe, Argentina will definitely get it right in their remaining matches, because their coach will not allow such thing to happen again that will make them to lose points than to do everything possible within his power to help the team to embrace their points from the match.

How can you say that Argentina played well in the first half, when they wasted so many good opportunities? They had ball possession and that was it. Argentines underestimated their opponents, despite fully knowing the fact that Saudi Arabia is playing in close to home conditions. And they paid the price for this. The only goal scored by Argentina came from a penalty. The well renowned attack of Lionel Messi, Ángel Di María, Lautaro Martínez and Paulo Dybala failed to score a single goal against such a weak opponent through the normal mode.
it was clear that Argentina's forward line had problems, bad enough when they failed to score a goal in normal play against a side so far below their quality.
Saudi Arabia played freely without any burden and they took advantage of the careless lines of the Argentine defense.

This defeat was quite surprising when Argentina had a good record before the world cup took place but they had to accept a humiliating defeat in the first match.

there is a lot to fix in the Argentina team but I personally still believe they will go further and rise, this is only the first match and they must win the next 2 matches to qualify from group C
Mexico and Poland are the next opponents, it's not impossible for Argentina who have quality games and players who are quite capable.
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November 23, 2022, 12:21:22 AM
Amazing. Amazing.
2 goals were immediately replied by Saudi Arabia in approximately 5 minutes. The spirit of the Saudi Arabian players immediately increased after the first goal scored by Al-Shehri.

It looks like many bets will fail for those who place for Argentina. Indeed Argentina has a number of star players who played at big clubs, but Saudi Arabia saw a lot of changes in the match against Argentina under Herve Renard, the former coach of the Moroccan national team.

62 minutes already in the second half. What happened and what next?
What game did Saudi Arabia show? This is an incredible game.  Never expected that in today's game.  It is a shame for Argentina that they are going to lose to Saudi Arabia. Those who supported Saudi Arabia and bet on them are going to be rich today

If I could have bet some of my money on this match, I would be rich today.  But due to bad forehead I didn't bet on this match.  But it has to be accepted that those who bet in support of Saudi Arabia today are the owners of a lot of money today. I never imagined that Saudi Arabia can win this match. At the end of the game, Saudi Arabia won.
This is really very crazy, 1.02 odds against 100, This is crazy, to be sincere, alot of money was lost today, and if you had betted, maybe you would have lost your money too, because no body was expecting Saudi Arabia to win this match, from the odds, we can see that alot money went to Argentina.
The only people that would have betted for the Saudi Arabians are the Saudi Arabian supporters themselves, any sane gambler out there would never have thought that Argentina would loose this match.
But it has happened, many have learnt the bitter lesson including myself, I hope I don't make this kind of mistake next time.
Yup unfortunately i lost my money yesterday. my bet was 1.13 for Argentina . But nobody was prepared for what happened in the Argentina vs Saudi Arabia game.  Think for yourself when a team offers 100x within 20 minutes of the game, who dares to bet for that team! Anyway congrats to Saudi Arabia for showing such a good match. It will be a memorable match in World Cup games in 2022
No one could have imagined that Saudi Arabia would win the match between Argentina and Saudi Arabia tomorrow.  Not only you, millions of you like me bet on Argentina vs Saudi Arabia.  I lost $114 yesterday by pulling out for Argentina.  However, betting is completely uncertain, it is impossible to say for sure when any event will happen.  Like Argentina's humiliating defeat against Saudi Arabia yesterday.
Ops had a great opportunity to get a huge win in yesterday's match.  If you could have bet your $114 for Saudi Arabia when they offered 100x you would have received $11400 in return which would have made you rich instantly.  However it was not on our foreheads so we missed out rather lost our money.  Argentina gave us a big pain through this match
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November 23, 2022, 12:18:11 AM
Lewandowski's fails in big games are still seen and people are still making memes out of them on the internet. I wonder when he will be able to fix this problem and start playing better in big games. It has been like that at Barcelona so far and it is still going on in the World Cup as well.

Two big players who failed in the first round of the World Cup group stage, namely Lewandowski and Lionel Messi. Lewandowski failed to score from the penalty spot and this was the only good chance for his national team to win last night's game and it was Messi who failed to lead Argentina to win the game against Saudi Arabia even though they are almost 99.99% predicted to win the match without any difficulty at all. Sometimes having big players in a team cannot make a significant contribution because football is a team game and everyone has to be of one mind.

Winning against argentina just like winning in the war. What a reaction from the government. Saudi arabian government thinks that if argentina was also a country with so many great footballers in the world. Winning from argentina has same meant like you are winning against a big kingdom that has a great name in the football history. I think that if another reason must be if saudi arabia was also winning against messi as a player with so many ballon d'or.

Saudi Arabia's victory over Argentina also opened up opportunities for them to pass from the group stage, they only need to draw the remaining two matches, namely against Poland and Mexico, even if Poland does not show improvement in appearance Saudi Arabia has the chance to win and maybe other surprises all they can do is win the group but this is just my prediction.
You can imagine how many bonuses the Saudi Arabian players will get from their king, yes indeed when they beat Argentina it's like beating Messi and hopefully the Saudi Arabian players don't get immersed in euporia and become anticlimactic.
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November 22, 2022, 11:30:06 PM
I think, Argentina coach need to introduce new tactics that will help the team to win their remaining two matches so that they will be able to stand well as the best in the group. Argentina really played well in the first half that made many people to believe that Argentina will defeat Saudi Arabia in the second half but match turned for the favour of Saudi Arabia to defeated Argentina 2-1 in the second half. I believe, Argentina will definitely get it right in their remaining matches, because their coach will not allow such thing to happen again that will make them to lose points than to do everything possible within his power to help the team to embrace their points from the match.

How can you say that Argentina played well in the first half, when they wasted so many good opportunities? They had ball possession and that was it. Argentines underestimated their opponents, despite fully knowing the fact that Saudi Arabia is playing in close to home conditions. And they paid the price for this. The only goal scored by Argentina came from a penalty. The well renowned attack of Lionel Messi, Ángel Di María, Lautaro Martínez and Paulo Dybala failed to score a single goal against such a weak opponent through the normal mode.
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November 22, 2022, 11:27:30 PM
This happens when you are too much dependent on a single player. Karim is also one of key player for real madrid but France must not have too much dependency on him. Now since Karim is out from this Cup france chances of making it to next round are now too slim. This should not be the case.
We think it is appropriate for a coach to rely on Karim Benzema, he is the best European player who is so mature in football, so his contribution and presence is very important in the squad, especially since France has a mission to defend the World Cup. But that doesn't mean that other players are ignored and underestimated, many French players have been injured, so their task this time will be very tough, even though they have many substitutes.

What just happened?

Saudi Arabia never thought in their wildest dream that they would defeat Argentina in the world cup. This might be one of the biggest upset in this world cup. Messi magic did not work at all. A defeat by the Arab team might harm Argentina moral in the upcoming game.

What a win by Saudis they were in control of the ball throughout the second half. I felt they were more accurate in their pass and coordination than the Argentine team. Good to see a new country raising it rank in this world cup.
Argentina was frustrated with the offside trap from a defender from Saudi Arabia, at least 10 offside traps were carried out well and canceled two goals from Argentina, besides that we also saw Argentina being too cool to attack, leaving a void resulting in the process of two goals from Saudi Arabia.
In the second half, Saudi Arabia played a bit more open than the first half, even though statistically Argentina were very dominant in possession. A good strategy was implemented by coach Herve Renard, although many people consider this victory to be good luck for Saudi Arabia.
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November 22, 2022, 11:26:05 PM
The coach behind Saudi Arabia is a genius and underrated.
Argentina shocking lost to Saudi Arabia 2-1 in their first game in the world cup. Argentina had three additional goals in the first half but all we're disallowed due to an offside position. It's really pain to see one of the tough country to lose their opening game, especially now that they will have to fight for a winning in their next game. Pretty an amazing results for Saudi Arabia and they have even declared a public holiday in accordance to celebrate their winning.
Saudi Arabia is very happy because of the victory in this match. The government of Saudi Arabia has announced the closure of all educational institutions in Saudi Arabia because of the victory in this match. I am very happy to see this incident. However, this is a matter of great difficulty for the people of Argentina. The people of Argentina are very worried.  The problem is that their team lost the first match.
Winning against argentina just like winning in the war. What a reaction from the government. Saudi arabian government thinks that if argentina was also a country with so many great footballers in the world. Winning from argentina has same meant like you are winning against a big kingdom that has a great name in the football history. I think that if another reason must be if saudi arabia was also winning against messi as a player with so many ballon d'or.
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November 22, 2022, 11:19:16 PM
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What a shock today at the world cup,who would have thought that Saudia Arabia will win south America champions in a world cup game,  I must congrats them for winning Argentina that has Lionel Messi in it, their whole country will be proud,they are already heroes already in their first game, I think Argentina were missing geovanni Lo Celso in the middle, the Tottenham Hotspur player brings another energy from midfield he reduced the work load for Lionel Messi. I think they can still qualify in the group.

Argentina coach need to introduce new tactics that will help the team to win their remaining two matches so that they will be able to stand well as the best in the group. Argentina really played well in the first half that made many people to believe that Argentina will defeat Saudi Arabia in the second half but the match turned for the favour of Saudi Arabia to defeated Argentina 2-1 in the second half. I believe, Argentina will definitely get it right in their remaining matches, because their coach will not allow such thing to happen again that will make them to lose points than to do everything possible within his power to help the team to embrace their points from the match.
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November 22, 2022, 11:16:09 PM
The coach behind Saudi Arabia is a genius and underrated.
Argentina shocking lost to Saudi Arabia 2-1 in their first game in the world cup. Argentina had three additional goals in the first half but all we're disallowed due to an offside position. It's really pain to see one of the tough country to lose their opening game, especially now that they will have to fight for a winning in their next game. Pretty an amazing results for Saudi Arabia and they have even declared a public holiday in accordance to celebrate their winning.
Saudi Arabia is very happy because of the victory in this match. The government of Saudi Arabia has announced the closure of all educational institutions in Saudi Arabia because of the victory in this match. I am very happy to see this incident. However, this is a matter of great difficulty for the people of Argentina. The people of Argentina are very worried.  The problem is that their team lost the first match.
Honestly the shock Saudi Arabian victory is one of the standout results in World Cup history and puts Argentina's hopes of a third title in doubt. Nobody expected this kind of result. Their direct, efficient play should not have come as a surprise to Argentina. They came prepared and executed their tactical plan in the game. The Government were really pleased with the team performance and it’s a good thing for the employees and students in Saudi Arabia, at least they will have the opportunity to celebrate the historical victory.
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