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December 11, 2022, 09:05:27 PM
Argentina have a tough job to do in the semi finals. Croatia are going to be a very tough opponent for them due to playing a defensive focused game. Croatia are already the last finalist in the World Cup and they want to make this happen once again to finish their incomplete job. This job was with France as they lost 4-2 back then.

Argentina should be able to take advantage of their attacking power somehow. Messi's performance will play a key role of course. van Gaal couldn't stop him and let's see if it will be the same for Dalic as well. I still expect Argentina to eliminate them.
this would be a bit like an attack strategy (Argentina) vs a defensive strategy (croatia). what's scary about croatia is when they counterattack so quickly. so Argentina really has to be careful. because as you said, Croatia seems determined to make it to the final again, like in 2018. Even now, Croatia, of course, has been equipped with experience from 2018. So Croatia's mentality is good. I can not predict which one is superior in this match. because both have their advantages.
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December 11, 2022, 09:05:22 PM
It was not luck, but hard work and great strategy for Morocco. I guess the big teams just assumed Morocco would be an easy win, and then got a surprise defeat.
Morocco has their solid strategy for the tournament and with player resource they have, they can't apply other strategies. Will Morocco repeat a big surprising success of Greece in Euro 2004?

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Cristiano Ronaldo was absolutely shocked when they scored and when Portugal lost. He couldn't believe it.
In the only goal of Morocco to Portugal goal, their striker had amazing jump and that contributed to an inaccurate save of Diogo Costa, goalkeeper of Portugal. As an expert with very high jumps, Cristiano should know how much pressure such jumps can make defenders and goalkeepers fearful. And that situation happened very quickly, within a few seconds.

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So I think France has to take them seriously, otherwise Morocco will continue to destroy superstars...
France had troubles to play against serious defensive teams and Morocco are a team like that. England controlled Mbappe very well in quarter math and if Morocco can control him in semi-final, they will have higher chance to beat France. We should not forget that France have many players who can score goals. Tchouameni's goal against England is a good example.
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December 11, 2022, 07:44:25 PM
~snip~Many people assume they win because of luck. But I think it is a subjective assumption.
Morocco defeated Belgium in the group stage, defeated Spain in the round of 16, and they defeated Portugal in the quarter-finals. We can say they are just lucky to win in 1 match. But winning in 3 matches from big teams, can't be said a luck factor. Morocco wins because they can play solidly as a team and they have a strong mentality.

Yep, Morocco has done their best efforts, they reached the semifinals because of their hard work. I really expect that this team can reach the final round, so there will be another surprise in this world cup tournament. However, in theory, they are almost impossible to win against France. France is the defending champion and they have a too strong squad.

Absolutely right.

It was not luck, but hard work and great strategy for Morocco. I guess the big teams just assumed Morocco would be an easy win, and then got a surprise defeat.

Cristiano Ronaldo was absolutely shocked when they scored and when Portugal lost. He couldn't believe it.

So I think France has to take them seriously, otherwise Morocco will continue to destroy superstars...
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December 11, 2022, 06:49:47 PM
Morocco might've got this win as a lucky one. From the very beginning we can't say the team have reached the semifinals out of luck. In every round Morocco have given the best and have reached the semifinals. Surely Morocco will reach the finals. This is my choice out of fluke, and lets wait for two more days to know the outcome.
Many people assume they win because of luck. But I think it is a subjective assumption.
Morocco defeated Belgium in the group stage, defeated Spain in the round of 16, and they defeated Portugal in the quarter-finals. We can say they are just lucky to win in 1 match. But winning in 3 matches from big teams, can't be said a luck factor. Morocco wins because they can play solidly as a team and they have a strong mentality.

Yep, Morocco has done their best efforts, they reached the semifinals because of their hard work. I really expect that this team can reach the final round, so there will be another surprise in this world cup tournament. However, in theory, they are almost impossible to win against France. France is the defending champion and they have a too strong squad.

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December 11, 2022, 06:21:50 PM
Of course, but they have to win against France, it's tough. Above the statistical record Morocco will not win. But as you said, Morocco has become an unexpected force. There aren't many star players, but their spirits are currently in a green image, fighting spirit ready to fight. The victory in the previous party made them unstoppable until now. I don't dare to bet against France, in terms of quality I actually prefer France but Morocco has a spirit that is beyond expectations.
Morocco got a very lucky victory because they managed to score a goal from a bait kick from outside the penalty box which was accidentally scored and the opposing goalkeeper had difficulty getting the ball, teamwork and luck were the keys to victory from Maroco, at least Morocco were able to prove that they were able to advance until to the Finals.
Morocco might've got this win as a lucky one. From the very beginning we can't say the team have reached the semifinals out of luck. In every round Morocco have given the best and have reached the semifinals. Surely Morocco will reach the finals. This is my choice out of fluke, and lets wait for two more days to know the outcome.
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December 11, 2022, 06:19:19 PM
Of course, but they have to win against France, it's tough. Above the statistical record Morocco will not win. But as you said, Morocco has become an unexpected force. There aren't many star players, but their spirits are currently in a green image, fighting spirit ready to fight. The victory in the previous party made them unstoppable until now. I don't dare to bet against France, in terms of quality I actually prefer France but Morocco has a spirit that is beyond expectations.
Morocco got a very lucky victory because they managed to score a goal from a bait kick from outside the penalty box which was accidentally scored and the opposing goalkeeper had difficulty getting the ball, teamwork and luck were the keys to victory from Maroco, at least Morocco were able to prove that they were able to advance until to the Finals.

Morocco They have reached their highest record in their lifetime so far.  Because in the past they were eliminated in the first round in the group stage.  But by defeating a huge strong team like Portugal and losing the world's best Ronaldo (CR7), they confirmed the semi-finals, which is the biggest achievement of the Moroccan team.  Because both their style of play and luck worked for the Moroccan team.  They had only one goal and not catching the ball turned their fortunes.
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December 11, 2022, 06:18:48 PM
Argentina have a tough job to do in the semi finals. Croatia are going to be a very tough opponent for them due to playing a defensive focused game. Croatia are already the last finalist in the World Cup and they want to make this happen once again to finish their incomplete job. This job was with France as they lost 4-2 back then.

Argentina should be able to take advantage of their attacking power somehow. Messi's performance will play a key role of course. van Gaal couldn't stop him and let's see if it will be the same for Dalic as well. I still expect Argentina to eliminate them.
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December 11, 2022, 06:14:24 PM
Of course, but they have to win against France, it's tough. Above the statistical record Morocco will not win. But as you said, Morocco has become an unexpected force. There aren't many star players, but their spirits are currently in a green image, fighting spirit ready to fight. The victory in the previous party made them unstoppable until now. I don't dare to bet against France, in terms of quality I actually prefer France but Morocco has a spirit that is beyond expectations.
Morocco got a very lucky victory because they managed to score a goal from a bait kick from outside the penalty box which was accidentally scored and the opposing goalkeeper had difficulty getting the ball, teamwork and luck were the keys to victory from Maroco, at least Morocco were able to prove that they were able to advance until to the Finals.
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December 11, 2022, 06:13:20 PM
But the match between France and England was pure drama. Portugal and Morocco was a real match
England missed the penalty and that was the worse mistake they did.
Missing a penalty kick is not done on purpose. Anybody can miss a penalty. Harry Kane is a good penalty-taker for England, I believe he didn't miss the penalty on purpose. He was under a lot of pressure to deliver that day with another penalty. He squandered their chance to score an equalizing goal, which got me speechless that day.

The match between France and England was challenging, both teams gave it their all, and the fortunate team ultimately prevailed.
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December 11, 2022, 06:04:24 PM
Argentina's goalkeeper isn't bad either. Has been a real penalty killer in the match against the Netherlands. Many people will have missed it, but Morocco has only conceded 1 goal in the entire tournament and that was also an own goal. They also beat Morocco 2-0, Belgium still has a strong team. It didn't matter much if Belgium had continued instead of Croatia. And then we might have had Belgium - Argentina. How nice would that have been? Too bad the tournament is already starting its last week. So you see that a World Cup is also over in no time. Tuesday is the first semi-final between Croatia and Argentina.
Morocco is really an extraordinary team, I also can't deny that their goalkeeper is really an extraordinary goalkeeper, apart from that the Moroccan defenders are also very solid. in the preliminary round, morocco has against Croatia and the result was a draw. I'm sure France will try hard to beat morocco in the semifinals, if Francis wins then we will probably see the same final in 2018 ago.
Although Morocco has taken enough preparation for this game, France is much stronger than them.  I will not say that Morocco cannot win with France.  But their chances are probably low.  However, this World Cup has been a convincing affair at times, so it is not impossible that Morocco can beat France in the semi-finals as well. Let's wait until the game starts and see what finally happens
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December 11, 2022, 05:56:31 PM
Argentina's goalkeeper isn't bad either. Has been a real penalty killer in the match against the Netherlands. Many people will have missed it, but Morocco has only conceded 1 goal in the entire tournament and that was also an own goal. They also beat Morocco 2-0, Belgium still has a strong team. It didn't matter much if Belgium had continued instead of Croatia. And then we might have had Belgium - Argentina. How nice would that have been? Too bad the tournament is already starting its last week. So you see that a World Cup is also over in no time. Tuesday is the first semi-final between Croatia and Argentina.
Morocco is really an extraordinary team, I also can't deny that their goalkeeper is really an extraordinary goalkeeper, apart from that the Moroccan defenders are also very solid. in the preliminary round, morocco has against Croatia and the result was a draw

I'm sure France will try hard to beat morocco in the semifinals, if Francis wins then we will probably see the same final in 2018 ago
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December 11, 2022, 05:45:12 PM
You are right about them having young players who have the gift of time to improve in their skills and play better in the next world cup, but I would say or conclude that they are unlucky, the game of football has a very small part of it tied to luck, the most important part of strategy and tactics, in football, a team can be unlucky but can easily convert that to being lucky if they have a good playing strategy and tactics that their opponent don't know of, or one that their opponents even know of but don't have an antidote to it.

England will do well in the next world cup if they would improve in their strategies/style of play and tactics, they are already good in terms of play abilities, but they are yet to discover their hidden styles that when engaged, would throw their opponent into total confusion.
The world cup is where most talents are been discovered with the introduction of new players with a particular need of leaving a mark by being pretty impressive. Old and young talents, a combination of experience and youthful speed/talent.

For what I worth, England is one of the luckiest te in this world cup and could have got a clean ticket to the semi finals but they threw it all out to the wind or should I say, Harry Kane facilitated there exit

I didn't understand why he chose to take all them penalties. Like, he was against Lloris, his team mate and captain, they've got years and experience together, trained together and you could see the tension build up between them especially for Harry Kane as he was to attempt a come back for his team. The best he could have done is let someone else take the shoot but, he wants to add to his goals and being the penalty takers for England, he sent it out wide and there goes England.

They had a good squad for this year, let's hope it doesn't deteriorate in the next 4years.
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December 11, 2022, 05:43:53 PM
Ohh no matter what , can we please have Argentina vs France in final ? Grin Cause in this way, we are locked in for sure in a spectacular game from start to finish with most likely France winning it again which will be crazy! Last country who manage to defend the title was Brazil and it was quite a long time ago and France has the greatest chance right now to achieve what Italy and Brazil did.


morocco is no longer the underdog now, they are a terrible team at the moment and even many big teams have been beaten by them, that doesn't mean that france won't be the next target for morocco to return home, no one knows what surprises will be in the semifinals later and that hard to guess, even though previously I thought Brazil would meet France in the final, it turns out that Croatia had eliminated Brazil in the quarter-finals yesterday
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December 11, 2022, 05:39:24 PM
I'm sure the quarter-finals team still has the same chance but for Morocco they have to face the seeded team again in the semifinals, that's the tough road they have to go through to reach the final.
I can't really say the semi final will be a easy one for Morroco, but I think it won't really be a easy one for France also, Morroco have being surprising everyone, nobody believe that they will go this far, Morroco didn't lose any match in their group stage, Morroco defeat Spain in knock out stage, Morroco defeated Portugal in quarter final, don't underestimate Morroco in semi final, I know it will be a very tough match because France will put all their efforts to win Morroco, since they see the way Morroco have being playing they won't want to take any chances.
aside from that argentina has a bigger chance to step into the final.
Seriously I will like to see Morroco and Croatia in final, I just hope Morroco will be able to defeat France and Croatia will be able to defeat Argentina, so that Morroco and Croatia will fight for the 1st position in world cup and France VS Argentina will fight for the third position.
And that's when anything can happen...

I believe that almost nobody would imagine that Morocco could reach the semifinals, that would be something unlikely.
 
Their performance far exceeded everyone's expectations, that's clear!
Possibly the Moroccan team will play with less pressure and France will have to impose itself during the game.

Morocco eliminated Spain and Portugal, not discrediting Morocco's team but that was something surreal!
I have no doubt that the Morocco team will donate 1000%, as this will be one of the main matches of their lives!

Even if France wins 4-0, Morocco's team will come out as a winner! It surprised the whole world and had a formidable performance!
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December 11, 2022, 05:35:54 PM
Ohh no matter what , can we please have Argentina vs France in final ? Grin Cause in this way, we are locked in for sure in a spectacular game from start to finish with most likely France winning it again which will be crazy! Last country who manage to defend the title was Brazil and it was quite a long time ago and France has the greatest chance right now to achieve what Italy and Brazil did.

That's the most possible final but I wouldn't say no to any final. Honestly I want Messi to win the trophy but we should accept that without Messi Argentina is just an ordinary team. In history always top teams won this tournament. Even though we saw a lot of surprise teams in semi finals, we didn't see any surprise winner. France has the best squad and right now they probably have the lowest odds, I didn't see championship odds though.
There are so many funny possibilities, we might see Croatia - France final same as last time, see an African team in finals first time, see all of the favorites eliminated before final etc. I'm okay with every possibilities. This may be the weirdest World Cup from start to finish, from location to local rules, results to -maybe- finalists.
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December 11, 2022, 05:32:04 PM
I have to be honest, I didn't expect a World Cup like this. Almost all the favorites were eliminated and when we look at the remaining teams, France is the only favorite. Obviously we have seen very sad results in this tournament. Portugal's elimination and Ronaldo's underappreciation even though it was his last tournament made me sad. When I look at the semi-final matches, I think Argentina and France will meet in the final.
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December 11, 2022, 05:25:56 PM
He also talked about how Van Gaal saying they would have a bigger advantage at penalties fired him up for sure. He talked about how Van Gaal should shut up Cheesy When you talk about these type of stuff, goalkeepers take notice, and the real good ones will use that as fire to burn them to be better. It is also a very scary situation because its literally like 5-10 minutes max, probably just 5 minutes all deciding everything, so even the smallest touches would make it very important and clear. I personally found it great, Martinez saved 2 shots that decided the whole thing, quite big deal.
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December 11, 2022, 05:21:35 PM
Argentina's goalkeeper isn't bad either. Has been a real penalty killer in the match against the Netherlands. Many people will have missed it, but Morocco has only conceded 1 goal in the entire tournament and that was also an own goal. They also beat Morocco 2-0, Belgium still has a strong team. It didn't matter much if Belgium had continued instead of Croatia. And then we might have had Belgium - Argentina. How nice would that have been? Too bad the tournament is already starting its last week. So you see that a World Cup is also over in no time. Tuesday is the first semi-final between Croatia and Argentina.
Martinez has always been a good goal keeper who has been hiding under the shadows of other players, after breaking through with Arsenal he has lived up to expectation ever since and progressing so well. Morocco are making history already in this world cup and I wish they can maintain and hold up until the end. It will be marvelous to see Morocco an African nation winning it for the first time in history.
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December 11, 2022, 05:15:11 PM
England vs France yesterday was a very interesting match. The results proved that sometimes stats are not a reflection of what a team looks like, judging by the stats England were the favorite to win the match. But France found it more easier to win, England didn’t stand a chance against the French defense. I expected more from England because I watch the English premier league regularly and had high hopes for the English team. Is England overrated?
England is has a great team when it comes to football, I don't think they are overrated, it is just that France is better, I don't know where you found the stats that made you believe that England would or should win against France, but from the odds in online sportsbooks, it showed that gamblers were betting massively on France, so I am personally not surprised that France won, from the initial beginning of the match, I expected them to win, it would have been a surprise to me if they didn't.
So for me, I don't think England is overrated, they are indeed good, but from all indications, France is better in football than England.

Considering the balance between France and England, France is a stronger team.  I think the balance is in favor of France.  England is never a weak team.  They are still unlucky in terms of penalties.  Had Kane scored the second penalty, they could have gone to overtime and maybe even won.  It was what a lot of people expected, and France won.  For me, the dream for Morocco will be this far.  It's really hard to beat France.
England did well but I don't know why they have always been so unlucky when it comes to international competitions like this. Only if Kane was able to convert that second penalty maybe they would have been able to change the outcome of the game in penalties or get a third goal before the last minute. The good thing is they have a very young and talented team who still have a chance to prove their worth in the next world cup.
You are right about them having young players who have the gift of time to improve in their skills and play better in the next world cup, but I would say or conclude that they are unlucky, the game of football has a very small part of it tied to luck, the most important part of strategy and tactics, in football, a team can be unlucky but can easily convert that to being lucky if they have a good playing strategy and tactics that their opponent don't know of, or one that their opponents even know of but don't have an antidote to it.

England will do well in the next world cup if they would improve in their strategies/style of play and tactics, they are already good in terms of play abilities, but they are yet to discover their hidden styles that when engaged, would throw their opponent into total confusion.
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December 11, 2022, 05:10:02 PM
Ohh no matter what , can we please have Argentina vs France in final ? Grin Cause in this way, we are locked in for sure in a spectacular game from start to finish with most likely France winning it again which will be crazy! Last country who manage to defend the title was Brazil and it was quite a long time ago and France has the greatest chance right now to achieve what Italy and Brazil did.



I'm of the complete opposite.  I want to see morroco and Croatia battle for it all.  Unless you are a fan of one of the other teams how does it not get better than that?  Guaranteed a winner from a team who has never won it and quite possibly from a team who's entire continent has never won it.  Would be a pack it in final and definitely a low scoring game but that's what I want to see.
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