Topic: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 123. (Read 67545 times)

That's not even right when we compare a player like Maradona with Messi because people in Argentina always try to find another legendary player like Maradona to respect him but that's not right because Maradona in Argentina was playing years ago when everything was different and not same with today they didn't have good coaches and good sports facilities but now Messi started his career in Barcelona's camp and raised as a legendary player in this team. Messi had obviously better chance than Maradona

This was no rumor because CBF was waiting for the Carlos Ancelotti to give any reply about their wish, but he never talks about this on media or on any platform which was making things difficult for the CBF but as he announces his extension of the contract with Real Madrid they understand this all and started their talk with next candidate Dorival Junior and this all gone successfully so they announce about this all quickly.
Now as we have details between Carlos Ancelotti and Real Madrid it's clear even if he fires from the coach of Real Madrid he can't leave the club as he will serve on any other post which he can't go on any other job until 2026 which is end of all hopes for any other club or country to have him as coach for their team.

Yes and even if there was more material, it doesn't mean that it would be easily comparable as there are so many different things to consider when you compare players with each other.

But I think we are doing it right if we respect them both for their achievements, but I do understand if people have an easier time to like players more that were particularly a part of their lives. In my case this is more Messi and than Maradona, but frankly speaking, I could exactly tell whether one of them was truly better than the other player. What's impressive about both of them is the time they dominated the world of football. It wasn't just a year, not even just a decade, but around two decades.

I wonder when this happened in your opinion? Last season? So, firstly, he reached the semi-finals of the Champions League, and secondly, all of Real's problems were due to Benzema's injuries and the fact that Real did not buy Mbappe or Haaland - but in neither case is Ancelotti's fault.
By the way, in Ancelotti’s new contract there is an option allowing him to remain at the club even after dismissal (if it happens), this has already happened, for example, in the case of Scolari, who, after dismissal from the post of head coach, remained at the club for a couple of years in other positions.

However, now Ancelotti has officially extended his contract with Real Madrid, so how much money will they spend to redeem him from Real Madrid? Real Madrid themselves certainly don't want to quickly lose their coach, because now Ancelotti is carrying out a process, and that process is for the future of Real Madrid.
Real Madrid is usually a firm club, they definitely want to keep Ancelotti until his contract expires, unless in the middle of the journey Ancelotti seems to have failed, so there is a possibility that Real Madrid will fire him. But so far what he is doing with Real Madrid looks quite good and there are no problems, so it is possible to let him see out his contract.

That is true but what is also true is that Ancelotti has spent quite some time now at Real Madrid so most probably he would want a boost,a final boost to his career by opting to join Brazil and be their coach.The Brazil federation I think would pay more money for transferring him by breaking Real Madrid contract as they would be getting a very good coach which has shown his skills with many club teams.I think he can finally give back glory to Brazil with a much needed World Cup title.

carlo anceloti coaching brazil is just a rumour. there has been no talk of a salary contract deal or contract duration.
And Anceloti's contract at Real Madrid is still long until 2026. If you want to take or break the contract, the Brazilian federation must spend more money for the transfer value of the coach. and it will be even more difficult for Anceloti to deal to train Brazil.

Indigenous coaches should be considered even better for national teams as this because of their knowledge of the traditional football style of their team, having been used to their style I was hoping they will understand the players much better than a foreigner would and capitalize on that to getting a perfect blend for the teas performance, the advantage the foreign coach have over indigenous coaches would be that they will be bringing exposure to the team and introducing a better pattern of Play thereby exposing their minds to been able to fit in in the international scene of football which is a very healthy move for young players who are still developing.

It's not okay to rule out the Brazilian coaches totally because out there other countries Who may even want to employ the service of such coach especially if such Coach is world class and have good a good track record and experience aswell

I have never seen Maradona play on live TV. All I have seen are a few recorded videos on YouTube and TV. But back then, the TV coverage was of poor quality and it is quite difficult to get a real measurement of his skillset. In case of players such as Pele, such material is even more scarce. All we know about them is sourced from a few match reports and books. Given this, it is very difficult to compare someone in this generation such as Messi, to someone from the old generation like Maradona. Only someone like Claudio Caniggia can make that comparison, since he has seen both of them in action.

There might be some truth to the idea that what is longer ago, is something that people better understand to value and to hold up. But it's also a question of taste. Some people will prefer Maradona over Messi for sure, and some see it the other way around. I think I am more of a Messi fan because it was part of my generation when he played and we got so many options to watch him play as I said. All these Youtube videos and other resources. There would never be as much material about a player from older generations simply because the technology wasn't there back then.

Usually youth players have more ego than senior players, Brazil dominance with youth players last of FIFA World Cup edition and make them poor achievement result, its not only for Brazil but all national teams if want get good result the players have play as unity team not individual. Most important with manager each national team exactly have many youth players they should manage well how to play as one team not show individual skill or more ego.

Currently, Brazil squad dominance by youth player and depend with their manager can make games plan as one unity team or the same mistake will happen again on FIFA World Cup 2026, but Brazil have to focus on qualifier match firstly after several bad result and must secure top six position standings in CONMEBOL zone if want automatically qualify.

I have to be agreed with your all view about Brazil and their soccer culture with now things are looking some poor on and off the field, but they can fight back in long run because they have potential and talent as well, but currently things are not going into their way as they needed to be which is surely problem, and they are having few extraordinary players which can do things with their own way but sadly their lack of leadership is the biggest problem then needed someone who can bring some depth which is important as team and Neymar era is now ended with now time for looking into future which could be give them better results as well.

Even mostly peoples are not hopefully for the Copa América but if they are able to manage things with their strong strategy then surely now we can expect better results in world cup with new coach.

op I agree with you the Brazil team needed a better course. Because the Brazil team is not able to perform well from the World Cup home stage due to lack of a good course. So the Brazil team management should employ better quality courses so that the future Copa America Brazil team can forget the gloom of their failure and perform well. Now it remains to be seen how well the Brazilian team can perform with their new course, we will know at the Copa America. If the Brazil team can perform well in the Copa America, then maybe they will do something better in the future through this course. And if there is a bad performance in the Copa America, then the team management will understand how wrong they have decided.

I disagree that ego was Brazil's main problem in the last World Cup.

They, in fact, went through the cup qualifiers with an excellent result and didn't even have a "star" on the field.
Neymar was not the center of attention as he was in the previous cup, Brazil had several talented and new players, but no one was seen as a "hero", in fact I saw that team as a team concept.
Anyway... the result wasn't the best, but I still disagree that the problem was the ego of one or another player, as I didn't see that on the field.

I can no longer find a reason why Brazil were eliminated so early, and in fact I stopped looking.
I'm looking ahead now, I hope that the new coach of the Brazilian team can structure the team well, win again in the cup qualifiers and achieve a good result.

It's exactly what we have been noticing as well. Maybe the players who acted like that thought that was their chance to stand out among their teammates, and be recognized by an international league or major team, through impressive individual moves along the match. However, in fact, it just displays egoistical and selfish behavior, which inevitably prejudices the whole team after all in most cases. It's possible they don't do this with bad intentions, it's just that their mindset wasn't properly prepared previously by the support of the team during the trainings.

Yes, the focus should be to win the matches, as a team, for the country they are representing, instead of seeing this as an opportunity of leveraging their personal careers to the next level. There is no problems if they succeed further on their careers as consequence of their outstanding performance, but that shouldn't be the focus in a World Cup, anyway.

I think the ego in playing football to be a shining star in the sky is something that Brazilian players didn't have in the past. If that happens I remember my country Indonesia. Of course it's not apples to apples to compare. But if we talk about excessive individuality, I think it's like some Indonesian players who want to dribble when they should be passing, or shoot when there should be a teammate who has a more open shooting space. But this can happen because there are some players who feel they have the qualities of European or American players.

But the Brazilian national team shouldn't have that. I mean of course people will think that Brazilian players are all good quality players. So prioritizing ego to look like a star is a big mistake that got Brazil to where it is today.

You keep telling some crazy stories, how old are you? Read Rooney's memoirs about how he spent his leisure time: “If I had a free day, I locked myself in the room and drank.”  And Rooney was no exception, alcohol was a huge problem for football players. Do you think this is a professional approach to business? Why do you think modern players play longer and better than previous generations who were just recently? Not only because medicine is better now (although this is also one of the reasons), but because if you now violate the sports regime, you will simply be kicked out of the team or, for starters, deprived of the millions that are due to you under the contract. To drink and be unpunished you have to be at least Neymar.
As for showing off, it in no way cancels out human nature, but once again confirms that now football players are under stricter conditions and are forced to be more professional in all areas of life.

The Carlo Anceloti to Brazil coaching was a big bait, i dont know from where, if from the proper circle of Anceloti or from the Brazilian federation of football, but ended up being a clown show.

I can think some words from the Anceloti representative to pressure Real Madrid, but i really dont know what really happen.

How can people have always been the same if there is more ostentation nowadays, like you said above? If people are more ostentatious nowadays, consequently they aren't the same compared to previous times...

Human's nature has always been the same, although behavior patterns change depending the current moment and external influences. Right now we have an important phenomenon we didn't have in previous decades, at least with so much influence and contact with the masses: the internet. It has totally reshaped the tendencies, interests and behaviors of society, including soccer players, who are more like celebrities than anything else right now.

These players have never been moral standards on building a family and walking straight in life, but they did their jobs with excellency. However, now with internet they are more concerned about boasting a luxurious routine at parties, wearing fancy clothes, displaying a new hairstyle each new day, displaying how influent and connected they are with the world of celebrities in order to collect most likes, comments, shares and fans as possible.

On the other hand, in previous times, players did enjoy parties and messing around, but they didn't have the need of being idolized for that by the public. They had the conscience of having a responsability and a performance to be delivered to the nation. Nowadays, it looks like players don't care at all. If the game is lost, at least they will receive some million likes on social media crying in a picture, while receiving another million dollars from sponsor brands.

They studied the possibility of hiring an european coach (Carlo Ancelotti from Real Madrid) for the national team, although decided recently for Dorival Jr., who has already worked previously with Flamengo and São Paulo. It looks like they have some resistance in picking someone who is not a brazilian to command the team. Brazilian players do have impressive skills, but don't have discipline and start losing self-confidence the further the championship reaches.

I feel Brazil will not have a good time in the Copa America or the World Cup with the current situation they have because they prefer to stick to their plan and use only the Brazilian coaches which can damage the team because they could have much better options for their team.
Traditions can definitely damage Brazil because they have many younger players and good talents in this country but these young players need better coaching to give them a better plan.