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Argentina should learn that Messi is nothing but a player however he has some better skills than other players but he is still a player and that's not going to change even if he reaches many achievements with his team. I think Messi should reconsider about his behavior and the Argentina team should pay more attention to Scaloni as their coach and give him more respect.
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Absolutely, your advice is well-founded. Lionel Messi is widely regarded as one of the greatest football players of all time, and his impact on the sport is undeniable. His incredible skill, goal-scoring ability, and playmaking prowess have made him a football icon. While the coach undoubtedly plays a crucial role in team dynamics and strategy, Messi's brilliance and consistency have been instrumental in Argentina's success.

Football is indeed a team sport, and success on the field often involves the collective efforts of players, coaching staff, and support personnel.

I carefully listened to the comments made by Lionel Scaloni, while he was talking to TyC Sports. He didn't said explicitly that he had fallen out with Messi. For those who believe in the rumors, there is a lot to read between the lines. For me it sounded like he has achieved whatever he wanted to achieve with Argentina, and therefore he wanted to move on. I always thought that Scaloni had an excellent relationship with Messi over the years, and for me there is not enough proof to suggest that anything has changed overnight. 

Well, we have many ways of looking at things, Scaloni is undoubtedly a great coach, and Messi is one of the best in the world, it is very feasible that if the problem is with Messi who gets his head cut off, it will be Scaloni, in fact I had seen some pro news there on Facebook, but of course I don't trust much that they said that Scaloni was going to stay, but I don't know if it's true or a lie, however, with everything Messi has done, it's probable that if he doesn't go to the World Cup, which seems absurd to me because he has been doing very well in the finals, it may be that he will not go to the next World Cup, I don't know, because that's what he said, he has already won everything, however, they may ask him not to attend. Well, because he is a fundamental piece for Argentina, and that is something that he knows, he is the one who plays the most, so far in the qualifying rounds, thanks to his management, they have been able to take the games forward, being the first in the group stage, even though they fell to Uruguay.

We must always see. that when there is no person like Messi who is loved worldwide apart from FIFA, because the one who has the options to win anything is him, Scaloni carries his merit, but he is the coach who has achieved everything too, and Messi should do that respect, one thing is the player and another very different thing is the coach, what Scaloni has done has been very admirable, and that is that he is the one who led Argentina to win this World Cup, with respect to Messi, they should fix themselves, because he He sees that Scaloni is a person who doesn't take nonsense about anything, that's why he has taken those initiatives so that he doesn't look like a fool, because things can be twisted for the better of one or the other, but a player like him Getting along badly with your coach doesn't look good at all, you have to be calmer and get along in harmony with everyone, that can affect them changing coaches, even though they are very good, if they bring in another one who doesn't lead well, they won't have good results.

Argentina should learn that Messi is nothing but a player however he has some better skills than other players but he is still a player and that's not going to change even if he reaches many achievements with his team. I think Messi should reconsider about his behavior and the Argentina team should pay more attention to Scaloni as their coach and give him more respect.

I don't understand whether the rumors are true or not. I can't confirm it at this time. But if that's true and he said it was because there was a tempting offer from Real Madrid, I think the Argentine national team management should try to keep him. Scaloni has everything it takes to make the young Argentine player better because as we know the 2022 world cup will probably be the last international level competition for several players, including Messi and Di Maria. Honestly, I saw that in Qatar, Messi and Di Maria really played a big role in bringing Argentina to success in becoming world cup champions. Of course, this problem must be resolved to find replacements for their roles.

OP I agree with you. At the 2023 World Cup in Qatar, we saw Scaloni's friendly relationship with Argentina's Messi. There was no need for all of a sudden to cause so much trouble between them. Messi is a good quality player, he should have had trouble between them to such an extent that Scaloni is talking about resigning. If Scaloni really resigns, it will be very harmful for the Argentina team. So Argentina's team management should pay attention to this. Anyway, Messi and Scaloni relationship should be fixed. Argentina's team management should come forward. Because Messi may not play for Argentina team for a long time. So both of them should be requested to play in the national team throug

It is not that important what the main problem was, as long as the manager is out, then he is out. I do not think that they have been this good thanks to the manager, I think the manager had nothing to do with it really.

I believe that they are going to be just fine, they didn't win much before, and they may not win much later neither. Just because a team won the continental cup and then world cp, doesn't mean that they are going to keep doing it every year all the time, they may be good or they may end up being bad, it doesn't really matter all that much easily. I think the best thing to do right now would be just realizing that it is not going to be the coaching change that result this, you may lose with the same coach or you may win with a different one, doesn't matter.

I think Argentina should have gone pass the stage where a players difference with a coach will cost him his job, especially for a coach who has gone this far with them and have achieved so much already with them, it's really not sounding well enough if it actually turns out he will be leaving because he has got some difference with Messi.

I taught Messi had a very good relationship with him such that little issues arising amongst them would be resolved swiftly without all this drama, moreover Messi like rightly stated is getting old and would leave the team soon so the Argentina football association should look into the fa t that this man has gone this far with them and aswell had achieved a lot with them and shouldn't be allowed to leave on such grounds that sounds almost absurd. A single player shouldn't be sole determinant of such vital decision in such a big team.

OP I agree with you.  Because Messi is old enough now, if Messi can play, he can play the 2026 World Cup at most. Then Leo Messi has to retire. So if there is any trouble between Leo Messi and Scaloni.Of course, it would be wise not to exclude Scaloni from the Argentina team for the sake of his team. Argentina team has gone a long way with Scaloni's hand. So maybe Messi is a good quality player in the world. Football fans will never expect that from him. So for the sake of the team, for the sake of millions of football fans, Messi and Scaloni should fix the relationship as soon as possible. The Copa America is ahead, so Messi will have to look at his team to ensure that there is no problem.

I think very bad what did and respond by Argentine Football Association about interest conflict between Lionel Scaloni and Lionel Messi, bad relationship happening between Lionel Scaloni with Messi because Argentina captain teams ask to their team mates leave the field when qualifier match against Brazil don't consult first with Scaloni. Lionel Messi have bad respect and attitude despite with his decision right or not ask to team mates leave the field without asking opinion with Argentina manager. I think have solution keep defend both of them between Lionel Scaloni and Lionel Messi for playing in World Cup 2026. However both of them as the actor for Argentina won FIFA World Cup 2022 in Qatar will be sad moment if not be part of Argentina in next world cup.

Now I am a little indecisive about this. On one side, I do not want to believe that Argentina is actually going to stop working with Scaloni. And it is much harder to believe when I remember that he was the one winning Argentina, the World Cup.

But at the same time, I also know that sometimes things are not as good as it looks from the outside. Maybe Lionel Messi and him actually have problems with each other. And we all know that Lionel Messi has a big impact on any decisions taken by Argentina.. But at the same time, it is definitely very hard to believe.

That's exactly the situation they are in and the manager should have been aware of that. If Messi wants to get rid of the football federation president he would, hell I am pretty sure that if Messi ran for president at Argentina, there is a quite possible chance that he could win, obviously which party does matter, but he does have that kind of power, let alone changing the manager.

So, it was already established that he would lead the team and the manager and coaches would have to let go and not really deal with him at all, it wouldn't make sense to keep doing something like that. I think it is wise decision by whoever in charge to fire anyone who upsets Messi or even who could be upset with Messi as well, that dude is the god there and he should be untouchable. I am not saying this is a good or right thing, but that is the reality and we should be considering the situation a bit better, it could be a deal where it could definitely be just needed to get accepted.

I can't believe Argentina is about to stop working with Scaloni because of Messi, Messi is already old and he can't play on his team for a long time but Scaloni can't have good performance in this team and he has good results for far even in the important match they had against Brazil. But the chairman of this team, Claudio Tapia didn't even say anything about Scaloni recently when he was talking on media and it's not surprising to see Scaloni leave the team because of one player before the 2026 World Cup.
  

If we look at Argentina's previous games, Argentina team was not that good. Since 2021, Lionel Scaloni under the great leadership of Leo Messi and Di Maria, the Argentina team has become a different kind of strong team. After winning the Super Clasico against the arch-rivals Brazil, Lionel Scaloni gave bad news to the Argentine fans. He said that he will no longer be in charge of the Argentina team. will do  Lionel Scaloni was asked about his resignation, he didn't mention Leo Messi or anyone. Maybe we will see Lionel Scaloni in 2026 World Cup and Copa America.

Well.. I also don't believe in these stupid rumors. At least on the outside it looks as if Lionel Scaloni and Lionel Messi enjoy excellent bonding. If Scaloni leaves for one of the UEFA clubs, then I am sure that it will be due to financial reasons. And the Argentine Football Association (Asociación del Fútbol Argentino), needs to think about it. This guy won them the world cup in 2022. There is no excuse in not rising his paycheck to match those offers from Real Madrid or any of the other clubs. He deserves it, IMO.

I believe that we are going to end up with something that will benefit everyone, it's really a good thing to see these big names because that will increase the viewership and that would be something that could help the money made from it as well type of thing. I believe that we need to end up seeing something that needs to be something that will benefit everyone at the same time, and the amount of attention the world cup sees helps even other players.

Imagine being a 19 year old kid, debuting for your nation at world cup for the first time (debut national team before, but first world cup game) and then you play against Argentina, you win or you may lose but you play great, suddenly your worth is huge if Messi is there because everyone would be watching it even more and while all the scouts will be there, it would also benefit if social media hypes you as well, believe it or not social media does matter on transfers for clubs because more attention is very important.

I read in other media about these rumors and actually, it is not very clear what the problem is which makes the media reports about it, but I think if Lionel Scaloni leaves the Argentine national team he will do so after completing his contract and to be able to earn more money by coaching the club because currently his name is has started to be considered well after successfully bringing Argentina to win the Copa America and the World Cup, and it is reported that Real Madrid is interested in him, so I see that his decision to leave was pure because his contract and he wanted different things, and it is quite impossible that he will last long as Argentina's coach because we can see that there is no national team coach who can always lead the country to a title.

I am pretty sure that even if it is Lionel Messi, who has done something wrong, Argentina will totally support Lionel Messi instead of the coach. And I am not sure what happened between Lionel Messi and Scaloni. But I am definitely certain that it is not going to be very good for Argentina. I mean if Argentina will actually play in 2026 without Scaloni. I don't think there was any reason to let him go as he was able to do the unthinkable. Honestly, I don't think Argentina would have been able to win the World Cup without him.

A lot of people seem to not give Di Maria the importance that he deserves. He is a very important player for Argentina. And he is a very devastating player, especially in the finals. It seems like Argentina is playing a final, he is scoring. And yes, even in 2026, he and Lionel Messi are going to be very important for Argentina. Of course, Lionel Messi is someone who can perform at any given time even at this age. He scans the field and finds weaknesses in the opponents defense. And at any given time he is able to penetrate that defence.

People should not think that just because he is old he will not be able to perform.

Duke

Lionel Scaloni, of course, has played an important role in the current champion Argentina team becoming champions. Although there is some kind of misunderstanding between Leo Messi and Lionel Scaloni. Leo Messi and Lionel Scaloni must be reformed for the sake of the team. Because Argentina course without Lionel Scaloni if they want to play the 2026 World Cup, it will not be very good for their team. The important role Lionel Messi will play for their team. Of course, the role of Argentine course Lionel Scaloni is also very important. Argentina have been playing very well in the qualifiers, so they should be careful not to leave Lionel Scaloni out of the squad.