FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 145.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 20, 2023, 06:10:28 AM

Quote from: temple on October 20, 2023, 04:43:24 AM

I would not be worried about Neymar and him missing games at the World Cup 2026. First of all it is three years from now and I am not sure whether by then he is anyway sitting in a wheelchair due to his glass bones and also, in three years from now Neymar who is so susceptible to injuries will be 34 years old and his importance for the Brazilian squad has been declining for a while now. I doubt that Ancelotti now thinks it would be a nightmare if Neymar can't play at the tournament. In Qatar he played 3 games and only 1 of those games he stayed on the pitch full-time. He missed some games with an injury and in other games he was substituted.

Not sure whether I can agree with your statement. Neymar got injured during the 2022 FIFA World Cup as well. And that was one of the reasons why their campaign ended at quarter-finals stage. Neymar took part in that match against Croatia, but he was not 100% fit. Ancelotti may think that Neymar is not an integral part of the Brazilian squad. But IMO, Brazil struggles against quality sides when he is not present. This is not the Brazil team that we all know from the 1990s or 2000s. Apart from Neymar, other players doesn't have the capability to win matches on their own.

Not sure if you got my statement correctly. Of what value is a player to a team when that player misses most of the big games due to injuries? What would Messi have contributed to Argentina and their way to becoming World Champions when he missed 50% of the games in the last 8 years? Neymar is never really fit and if he is, he often gets minor or major injuries during games and can't finish them. He is also a highly emotional player who never had the quality to lead a team when it was not looking good.

All of this doesn't mean he didn't have impressive actions during games with his speedy dribblings and some amazing goals. But really, I am sure you would agree that there are not many players who lacked consistency so much like Neymar. In 6 years for PSG he played 112 games across all competitions. His score? The score is great. It has never really been a problem, but when he doesn't play all his stats are worthless in important games. That's a problem and also his tendency to play like a little girl and dive all the time was a problem. I really wonder if he had any offers from a top club from Europe this summer. I don't think so.

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Quote from: armanda90 on October 17, 2023, 09:38:17 AM

Full time Brunei Darussalam 0 vs 6 Indonesia

Indonesia success qualify to second round World Cup qualifier after winning aggregate 12-0 from Brunei Darussalam, its not really surprised result depend on weakness opponent teams and Indonesia will be in Group F on second round of qualifier. I am so excited with my national team winning aggregate big score against Brunei Darussalam and already for second round matches in Group F filled by Iraq, Vietnam and Philippines. Opening match of World Cup qualifier second round will start on November 17 and hope Indonesia can lead to third round. In second round, two national teams standing above will qualify to third round and I hope have opportunity for Indonesia can finish on 1st or 2nd standings position to get place qualify on third round.

Indonesia's chances of qualifying for Round 3 are high, but it's also difficult. But if you look at the strategy applied by STY I think qualifying from the second round is not impossible. The key is in the match against Iraq, Iraq we know is the strongest country in this group if you look at their FIFA ranking, but Indonesia itself is now in good form especially after many descent players joined the squad.
Indonesia's defense is quite strong at the moment with several hereditary names. What is still a job is the front line, although the front line is now in a good situation, but their performance is still naive.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 20, 2023, 06:54:18 AM

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On FIFA World Cup Qualifier CONMEBOL zone Argentina have impressive performance, won 4 of 4 matches seems they will easily get placed in World Cup 2026 with Lionel Messi still most important player in their squad.

There are almost no doubts about Argentina because they are still supported by the same squad as when they won the World Cup last year, but it is quite impressive how they are consistent, have not shown any decline, perhaps also because the team they are facing can be said to be below their strength and when they face Uruguay and Brazil in November, it will be a real test, whether they will still be able to win the match, especially when they face Brazil later, even though Brazil will not be defended by Neymar because it is reported that he will need quite a long time to recover from injury but Brazil will still be Argentina's toughest opponent.
And regarding Messi's role, he will still be the focus for Argentina in this qualification and the 2026 World Cup is still a question regarding his participation.

Having won the four matches they've played in the CONMEBOL FIFA World Cup Qualifiers, Brazil is surely gonna find it difficult to qualify for the 2026 FIFA World Cup. Out of the 10 countries that make up CONMEBOL, the Argentine national team is the highest ranked team as well as the number 1 ranked team in FIFA rankings.
They Argentine national team is in the form of their life as they're yet to lose a football game since last year's world cup.

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Quote from: armanda90 on October 20, 2023, 02:09:47 AM

On FIFA World Cup Qualifier CONMEBOL zone Argentina have impressive performance, won 4 of 4 matches seems they will easily get placed in World Cup 2026 with Lionel Messi still most important player in their squad.

There are almost no doubts about Argentina because they are still supported by the same squad as when they won the World Cup last year, but it is quite impressive how they are consistent, have not shown any decline, perhaps also because the team they are facing can be said to be below their strength and when they face Uruguay and Brazil in November, it will be a real test, whether they will still be able to win the match, especially when they face Brazil later, even though Brazil will not be defended by Neymar because it is reported that he will need quite a long time to recover from injury but Brazil will still be Argentina's toughest opponent.
And regarding Messi's role, he will still be the focus for Argentina in this qualification and the 2026 World Cup is still a question regarding his participation.

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Quote from: temple on October 20, 2023, 04:43:24 AM

I would not be worried about Neymar and him missing games at the World Cup 2026. First of all it is three years from now and I am not sure whether by then he is anyway sitting in a wheelchair due to his glass bones and also, in three years from now Neymar who is so susceptible to injuries will be 34 years old and his importance for the Brazilian squad has been declining for a while now. I doubt that Ancelotti now thinks it would be a nightmare if Neymar can't play at the tournament. In Qatar he played 3 games and only 1 of those games he stayed on the pitch full-time. He missed some games with an injury and in other games he was substituted.

Not sure whether I can agree with your statement. Neymar got injured during the 2022 FIFA World Cup as well. And that was one of the reasons why their campaign ended at quarter-finals stage. Neymar took part in that match against Croatia, but he was not 100% fit. Ancelotti may think that Neymar is not an integral part of the Brazilian squad. But IMO, Brazil struggles against quality sides when he is not present. This is not the Brazil team that we all know from the 1990s or 2000s. Apart from Neymar, other players doesn't have the capability to win matches on their own.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 19, 2023, 09:05:12 PM

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But it doesn't have any consequences as the CONMEBOL area has either 6 or 7 starters for the World Cup 2026 out of 10 qualification participants. It may have consequences of course when the groups are drawn for the final round, but I guess Brazil doesn't care too much whether they finish the qualification phase as second or third. They will be a favorite at any World Cup they participate in and if they have to beat strong teams during the group stage in the final round at the World Cup, they know that they would have to beat strong teams at some point in time anyway, so the potential harm is probably not that big.

Qualification should not be a worry for Brazil, given there are 6.5 slots (out of 10 participants) from 2026 FIFA World Cup onwards. But the fact that Argentina has overtaken them should be a concern. Especially with Neymar injured yet again, the Brazilian squad is considerably weakened. And at this point they are very dependent on Neymar and doesn't have anyone who could replace him. Sad to say this, but the truth is that I don't foresee Brazil reclaiming the no.1 spot in FIFA rankings anytime soon. Not even in the distant future.

I would not be worried about Neymar and him missing games at the World Cup 2026. First of all it is three years from now and I am not sure whether by then he is anyway sitting in a wheelchair due to his glass bones and also, in three years from now Neymar who is so susceptible to injuries will be 34 years old and his importance for the Brazilian squad has been declining for a while now. I doubt that Ancelotti now thinks it would be a nightmare if Neymar can't play at the tournament. In Qatar he played 3 games and only 1 of those games he stayed on the pitch full-time. He missed some games with an injury and in other games he was substituted.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 19, 2023, 09:05:12 PM

Qualification should not be a worry for Brazil, given there are 6.5 slots (out of 10 participants) from 2026 FIFA World Cup onwards. But the fact that Argentina has overtaken them should be a concern. Especially with Neymar injured yet again, the Brazilian squad is considerably weakened. And at this point they are very dependent on Neymar and doesn't have anyone who could replace him. Sad to say this, but the truth is that I don't foresee Brazil reclaiming the no.1 spot in FIFA rankings anytime soon. Not even in the distant future.

FIFA World Cup qualifier CONMEBOL zone have 18 matches and 6th top standings position teams will automatically qualify to FIFA World Cup 2026, current standings Brazil on 3rd placed and not problem for them if can't finish on Qualifier round as top position standing because will participants in next World Cup. Brazil have many talent and there are not problem with Neymar have been absent until nine months later but he still has chance for participating in World Cup 2026 left three years later.

On FIFA World Cup Qualifier CONMEBOL zone Argentina have impressive performance, won 4 of 4 matches seems they will easily get placed in World Cup 2026 with Lionel Messi still most important player in their squad.

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Quote from: temple on October 19, 2023, 06:44:19 PM

But it doesn't have any consequences as the CONMEBOL area has either 6 or 7 starters for the World Cup 2026 out of 10 qualification participants. It may have consequences of course when the groups are drawn for the final round, but I guess Brazil doesn't care too much whether they finish the qualification phase as second or third. They will be a favorite at any World Cup they participate in and if they have to beat strong teams during the group stage in the final round at the World Cup, they know that they would have to beat strong teams at some point in time anyway, so the potential harm is probably not that big.

Qualification should not be a worry for Brazil, given there are 6.5 slots (out of 10 participants) from 2026 FIFA World Cup onwards. But the fact that Argentina has overtaken them should be a concern. Especially with Neymar injured yet again, the Brazilian squad is considerably weakened. And at this point they are very dependent on Neymar and doesn't have anyone who could replace him. Sad to say this, but the truth is that I don't foresee Brazil reclaiming the no.1 spot in FIFA rankings anytime soon. Not even in the distant future.

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Argentina are currently in first place in the qualifiers, which is not surprising after they became world champions last season. But what is surprising is that the second place is not Brazil but Uruguay. Uruguay, Brazil and Venezuela have seven points each in the standings and it is a serious competition between the teams. Colombia by the way has six points, which may cause problems for the leaders in the future. Probably we are waiting for an interesting qualification.

It is still too early in the qualifications, any ranking right now is almost entirely random.

Having said that, the 2 - 0 win of Uruguay against Brazil is important. Brazil qualified without losing a single game in the previous world cup. Now they just lost in the beginning against Uruguay.

This tells me that Uruguay will be one of the favorites. I mean, they are very good anyway, and have won the world cup previously so no surprises there.

The South American qualifications are always fun to watch, every team is good.

But it doesn't have any consequences as the CONMEBOL area has either 6 or 7 starters for the World Cup 2026 out of 10 qualification participants. It may have consequences of course when the groups are drawn for the final round, but I guess Brazil doesn't care too much whether they finish the qualification phase as second or third. They will be a favorite at any World Cup they participate in and if they have to beat strong teams during the group stage in the final round at the World Cup, they know that they would have to beat strong teams at some point in time anyway, so the potential harm is probably not that big.

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Quote from: fzkto on October 19, 2023, 03:26:45 PM

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Argentina are currently in first place in the qualifiers, which is not surprising after they became world champions last season. But what is surprising is that the second place is not Brazil but Uruguay. Uruguay, Brazil and Venezuela have seven points each in the standings and it is a serious competition between the teams. Colombia by the way has six points, which may cause problems for the leaders in the future. Probably we are waiting for an interesting qualification.

It is still too early in the qualifications, any ranking right now is almost entirely random.

Having said that, the 2 - 0 win of Uruguay against Brazil is important. Brazil qualified without losing a single game in the previous world cup. Now they just lost in the beginning against Uruguay.

This tells me that Uruguay will be one of the favorites. I mean, they are very good anyway, and have won the world cup previously so no surprises there.

The South American qualifications are always fun to watch, every team is good.

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I know we are still far away and any can happen, but i see yesterday game of Messi and man, he still play better than the young ones, so i can see him if nothing strange happen, being one of the best in the 2026 world cup. Only he needs to preserve himself from injuries.

Messi's performance has never been bad, from the beginning of his career till now he has been doing great but some years his national team performance has been bad but he has been doing great at the club level. A player doesn't retire only when he performs poorly, there are many other reasons behind his retirement. Messi has achieved the highest in his football career, there is nothing left to achieve now so he will probably stay with his highest achievement. 2022 world cup is going on we thought after this world cup we might lose some important players including messi neymar ronaldo karim benzema but they are still performing and ronaldo and neymar have a chance to play 2026 world cup but we don't see that chance for messi yet though compared to ronaldo and neymar Messi is in good form. Messi fans will definitely want Messi to participate in one more World Cup tournament and become the world champion once again.

Undoubtedly, Lionel Messi is one the greatest footballers to have ever graced the beautiful round leather game of football and still very active and effective when he's playing but I doubt if he'll be part of Argentina squad in the 2026 world cup that'll be hosted in three north American countries.
I initially thought he was gonna retire from international football after the 2022 World Cup tournament but which he decided not to but I think the football superstar is gonna quit international football before the 20126 World Cup finals

Considering many aspects, Lionel Messi is likely to play in the 2026 World Cup, while considering some aspects, it seems that he will stay with the team only until the team qualifies for the 2026 World Cup. It will not be surprising if he is seen playing for Argentina in the 2026 World Cup and it will not be surprising if he does not play. What Lionel Messi didn't get in his long career, he got at the end of his career. Lionel Messi has only one Copa America win against Brazil in Brazil and that is his first Copa America trophy win. On the other hand, he never achieved a World Cup win in his long career which he achieved at the end of his career 2022 World Cup in Qatar. Argentina will be lucky if they get Lionel Messi in the 2026 World Cup. If Lionel Messi is in the 2026 World Cup, the team will be stronger.

Argentina are currently in first place in the qualifiers, which is not surprising after they became world champions last season. But what is surprising is that the second place is not Brazil but Uruguay. Uruguay, Brazil and Venezuela have seven points each in the standings and it is a serious competition between the teams. Colombia by the way has six points, which may cause problems for the leaders in the future. Probably we are waiting for an interesting qualification.

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It is a long shot. Indonesia, as per the rankings is currently the 28th strongest team in AFC. And there are 8.5 slots available from this confederation for 2026 FIFA World Cup. As of now, Japan, South Korea, Iran and Australia are the top teams in AFC, followed by other GCC nations such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE and Oman. Iraq is also in the top-10 list. Indonesia got past the first round by defeating Brunei. In the second round, they need to compete against Iraq, Vietnam and Philippines, and all of them are ranked higher than them.

Even though there is only small chance for Indonesia to become one of the top AFC teams to have a ticket to the 2026 World Cup at least seeing how the Indonesian players fight in every match is extraordinary.
We all know that there are still many strong teams that Indonesia has to overcome but with strong determination and optimal play can make Indonesian football fans proud.
Of the several teams that will be Indonesia competitors it seems that Vietnam will be the team that makes it the most difficult for Indonesia because the Vietnamese national team always uses various methods to beat their enemies.
I remember when Indonesia played Vietnam and there were many yellow cards from Vietnam who tried to provoke the Indonesian players by doing lots of tackles or elbows.

A bit surprising with Asian football but this is what happens.

This is why I love football, if you are watching Manchester City versus Real Madrid then yeah you are going to get the best teams and that's fun too, I do enjoy it a lot and I would love to watch it this year as well, all those great big clubs or even nations like France and brazil and England and Argentina etc they are all great.

However, when it comes to teams like Indonesia or any other team like that, it is really fun to see because it shows you why we played it as a kid. Those teams are there to play, not there to just win, if they can win that would be lovely but they are there to give 100% of their power and that makes it so much more fun, it is better than watching 10+ million dollar salary players without a doubt.

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@Slow death at his age it made sense because he wanted to play in a league where he could get regular match fitness and keep himself ready for international games but I didn’t think that he would actually be keen to play in the 2026 World Cup. Furthermore the era of Messi and Ronaldo is over in context of European football and now it’s time for Halland and Mbappe because these two will be dominating football for a very long time now.

Both Kylian Mbappé and Erling Håland are in their early 20s. At this point, I don't think that it is the right thing to do when we compare them with legends such as Ronaldo and Messi. And we don't know whether they will dominate the football scene, similar to what Messi and Ronaldo did for almost two decades. What if they end up like Mario Balotelli? He was once regarded as the next Ronaldo. The had a few poor seasons with Liverpool in 2014-16, and finally ended up with Adana Demirspor. I really don't want either Mbappé or Håland to end up like him.

The list isn't complete without osinmhen and Bellingham, these are also young talents who have in recent times dominated the European football scene and the world at large, they have shown brilliance and competency in their various team where they find themselves, both in their various domestic leagues and other leagues they have been consistent and remain as champions.

Comparing these young talents with the likes of Ronaldo and Messi would be too early and erroneous at some point because these set of players are in a different era in the football history as compared to that of Messi and Ronaldo and they still have a long time to showcase a lot and scale heights to the peak of their career so comparing a new star to people who are already done and about retiring wouldn't make enough sense.

These boys haven't participated in as many game as these other old players have participated and they have not gained enough recognition as the others have so the yardstick for comparison would just be too far apart.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 19, 2023, 02:10:58 AM

@Slow death at his age it made sense because he wanted to play in a league where he could get regular match fitness and keep himself ready for international games but I didn’t think that he would actually be keen to play in the 2026 World Cup. Furthermore the era of Messi and Ronaldo is over in context of European football and now it’s time for Halland and Mbappe because these two will be dominating football for a very long time now.

Both Kylian Mbappé and Erling Håland are in their early 20s. At this point, I don't think that it is the right thing to do when we compare them with legends such as Ronaldo and Messi. And we don't know whether they will dominate the football scene, similar to what Messi and Ronaldo did for almost two decades. What if they end up like Mario Balotelli? He was once regarded as the next Ronaldo. The had a few poor seasons with Liverpool in 2014-16, and finally ended up with Adana Demirspor. I really don't want either Mbappé or Håland to end up like him.

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I know we are still far away and any can happen, but i see yesterday game of Messi and man, he still play better than the young ones, so i can see him if nothing strange happen, being one of the best in the 2026 world cup. Only he needs to preserve himself from injuries.

Choosing to go and play in the USA and in that team that occupied the last position in the league table in the USA, in my opinion it was the worst choice that Messi made, if his intention was not to retire due to football, then yes it was a serious mistake to have been on that team. This is because without playing against good players, next year he will start to drop in performance, as a result he will not be able to have much shine in the Argentine main team. and looking at the argentina team, they have a lot of good players, but they don't have any replacement for messi, probably on the day that messi stops playing, and the day that ronaldo stops playing, then the world of football will miss them so much

It's unbelievable that the years have passed and no players are appearing with the same brilliance and talent that Messi and Ronaldo have. It seems that perhaps only in the coming decades will we be able to see other players with the same talent, before these players came Maradona and Pele. Of course, there are many other players with talent, but they don't reach the same level of talent and popularity that Messi and Ronaldo managed to achieve. unfortunately they are in the last years of their career. In another 2 to 4 years they will stop playing football, this means that in the next World Cup, I'm talking about the one in 2026 due to their age, it will be the last for both of them, that is if they also manage to have the physique to be in the 2026 World Cup.

@Slow death at his age it made sense because he wanted to play in a league where he could get regular match fitness and keep himself ready for international games but I didn’t think that he would actually be keen to play in the 2026 World Cup. Furthermore the era of Messi and Ronaldo is over in context of European football and now it’s time for Halland and Mbappe because these two will be dominating football for a very long time now.

Regarding Messi and this player in the next World Cup. I know Messi can even get older and he obviously can't have a good performance when he is going to play for Argentina in the 2026 World Cup. Also, I think Messi is even thinking about getting retired even before that year before Deco, from Barcelona said they were ready to plan a special tribute for this player when he gets retired.

https://en.as.com/soccer/barcelona-already-planning-a-special-tribute-for-messi-n/

Lionel Messi though is still performing well whenever he's on the pitch but one can clearly see the the Argentine superstar isn't performing like he was doing in his prime and that's to show that age is somehow showing effects on the veteran forward footballer.
Messi will be 39 years of age by 2026 and I don't think he'll want to play in the World Cup at 39 knowing fully well that he's not gonna be active in the tournament. I don't see a 2026 FIFA World Cup with Lionel Messi as one of the participants.

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I will say that Brunei Darussalam is not a strong opponent for Indonesia. And for Indonesia, it was supposed to be easy to beat the team which is ranked 191 in the FIFA ranking. But still, it was a good performance from Indonesia. Now it will be interesting to see how Indonesia will perform going forward. And I also have to say that the performance from Brunei Darussalam was pretty bad, to be honest. The defense was absolutely horrible. But at the same time, we cannot expect too much from a team, that is ranked 191.

You are right that Brunei Darussalam is not a tough opponent for Indonesia, especially now that there are quite good things in the development of the Indonesian national team, they are no longer a team that easily loses to any team and are quite happy to see this good development, only when talking about opportunities to qualifying for the World Cup is still quite difficult to achieve, I don't want to denigrate Indonesia, but in Asia itself they still have to prove that they are a strong team, in fact, it would be better for Indonesia not to qualify because it is very possible that they will be the weakest team in the tournament. Later it would be better to focus continue to build Indonesian football better and start by performing better in the Asian Cup and only after that targeting the World Cup and which takes quite a long time with the right development.

Yes in this round Brunei Darussalam is not a difficult opponent to beat, as evidenced in the 2 legs between Indonesia vs Brunei Darussalam which ended 12-0. For Indonesia itself, the opportunity to qualify for the World Cup finals is still very far away, they will meet with strong countries, in the next round they will meet with 3 countries and 2 countries from Southeast Asia, they meet quite often, the Philippines and Vietnam while 1 other country is Iraq. Perhaps in this group Iraq is the strongest country, but even so Vietnam is also not to be underestimated, as well as the Philippines. But to be able to qualify from this group phase, the opportunity is still open for Indonesia.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 18, 2023, 09:45:53 AM

I know we are still far away and any can happen, but i see yesterday game of Messi and man, he still play better than the young ones, so i can see him if nothing strange happen, being one of the best in the 2026 world cup. Only he needs to preserve himself from injuries.

Choosing to go and play in the USA and in that team that occupied the last position in the league table in the USA, in my opinion it was the worst choice that Messi made, if his intention was not to retire due to football, then yes it was a serious mistake to have been on that team. This is because without playing against good players, next year he will start to drop in performance, as a result he will not be able to have much shine in the Argentine main team. and looking at the argentina team, they have a lot of good players, but they don't have any replacement for messi, probably on the day that messi stops playing, and the day that ronaldo stops playing, then the world of football will miss them so much

It's unbelievable that the years have passed and no players are appearing with the same brilliance and talent that Messi and Ronaldo have. It seems that perhaps only in the coming decades will we be able to see other players with the same talent, before these players came Maradona and Pele. Of course, there are many other players with talent, but they don't reach the same level of talent and popularity that Messi and Ronaldo managed to achieve. unfortunately they are in the last years of their career. In another 2 to 4 years they will stop playing football, this means that in the next World Cup, I'm talking about the one in 2026 due to their age, it will be the last for both of them, that is if they also manage to have the physique to be in the 2026 World Cup.

@Slow death at his age it made sense because he wanted to play in a league where he could get regular match fitness and keep himself ready for international games but I didn’t think that he would actually be keen to play in the 2026 World Cup. Furthermore the era of Messi and Ronaldo is over in context of European football and now it’s time for Halland and Mbappe because these two will be dominating football for a very long time now.

Regarding Messi and this player in the next World Cup. I know Messi can even get older and he obviously can't have a good performance when he is going to play for Argentina in the 2026 World Cup. Also, I think Messi is even thinking about getting retired even before that year before Deco, from Barcelona said they were ready to plan a special tribute for this player when he gets retired.

https://en.as.com/soccer/barcelona-already-planning-a-special-tribute-for-messi-n/

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 18, 2023, 09:45:53 AM

I know we are still far away and any can happen, but i see yesterday game of Messi and man, he still play better than the young ones, so i can see him if nothing strange happen, being one of the best in the 2026 world cup. Only he needs to preserve himself from injuries.

Messi's performance has never been bad, from the beginning of his career till now he has been doing great but some years his national team performance has been bad but he has been doing great at the club level. A player doesn't retire only when he performs poorly, there are many other reasons behind his retirement. Messi has achieved the highest in his football career, there is nothing left to achieve now so he will probably stay with his highest achievement. 2022 world cup is going on we thought after this world cup we might lose some important players including messi neymar ronaldo karim benzema but they are still performing and ronaldo and neymar have a chance to play 2026 world cup but we don't see that chance for messi yet though compared to ronaldo and neymar Messi is in good form. Messi fans will definitely want Messi to participate in one more World Cup tournament and become the world champion once again.

Undoubtedly, Lionel Messi is one the greatest footballers to have ever graced the beautiful round leather game of football and still very active and effective when he's playing but I doubt if he'll be part of Argentina squad in the 2026 world cup that'll be hosted in three north American countries.
I initially thought he was gonna retire from international football after the 2022 World Cup tournament but which he decided not to but I think the football superstar is gonna quit international football before the 20126 World Cup finals

Considering many aspects, Lionel Messi is likely to play in the 2026 World Cup, while considering some aspects, it seems that he will stay with the team only until the team qualifies for the 2026 World Cup. It will not be surprising if he is seen playing for Argentina in the 2026 World Cup and it will not be surprising if he does not play. What Lionel Messi didn't get in his long career, he got at the end of his career. Lionel Messi has only one Copa America win against Brazil in Brazil and that is his first Copa America trophy win. On the other hand, he never achieved a World Cup win in his long career which he achieved at the end of his career 2022 World Cup in Qatar. Argentina will be lucky if they get Lionel Messi in the 2026 World Cup. If Lionel Messi is in the 2026 World Cup, the team will be stronger.

If Lionel Messi participates in the World Cup for Argentina in 2026, then he will not have this current pace. Because he has to lose out on the age gap, Messi will be around 39 years old in 2026 because he doesn't seem to have the right running speed at that time. Although he is currently the best in terms of experience, the age gap will be the biggest obstacle. Although he has plenty of pace at present, we would also like to see him in 2026 so that he can bring his experience to the World Cup once again.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 18, 2023, 09:20:05 PM

Quote from: posi on October 18, 2023, 07:55:29 PM

I will say that Brunei Darussalam is not a strong opponent for Indonesia. And for Indonesia, it was supposed to be easy to beat the team which is ranked 191 in the FIFA ranking. But still, it was a good performance from Indonesia. Now it will be interesting to see how Indonesia will perform going forward. And I also have to say that the performance from Brunei Darussalam was pretty bad, to be honest. The defense was absolutely horrible. But at the same time, we cannot expect too much from a team, that is ranked 191.

It is a long shot. Indonesia, as per the rankings is currently the 28th strongest team in AFC. And there are 8.5 slots available from this confederation for 2026 FIFA World Cup. As of now, Japan, South Korea, Iran and Australia are the top teams in AFC, followed by other GCC nations such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE and Oman. Iraq is also in the top-10 list. Indonesia got past the first round by defeating Brunei. In the second round, they need to compete against Iraq, Vietnam and Philippines, and all of them are ranked higher than them.

Even though there is only small chance for Indonesia to become one of the top AFC teams to have a ticket to the 2026 World Cup at least seeing how the Indonesian players fight in every match is extraordinary.
We all know that there are still many strong teams that Indonesia has to overcome but with strong determination and optimal play can make Indonesian football fans proud.
Of the several teams that will be Indonesia competitors it seems that Vietnam will be the team that makes it the most difficult for Indonesia because the Vietnamese national team always uses various methods to beat their enemies.
I remember when Indonesia played Vietnam and there were many yellow cards from Vietnam who tried to provoke the Indonesian players by doing lots of tackles or elbows.

A bit surprising with Asian football but this is what happens.

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Quote from: posi on October 18, 2023, 07:55:29 PM

I will say that Brunei Darussalam is not a strong opponent for Indonesia. And for Indonesia, it was supposed to be easy to beat the team which is ranked 191 in the FIFA ranking. But still, it was a good performance from Indonesia. Now it will be interesting to see how Indonesia will perform going forward. And I also have to say that the performance from Brunei Darussalam was pretty bad, to be honest. The defense was absolutely horrible. But at the same time, we cannot expect too much from a team, that is ranked 191.

You are right that Brunei Darussalam is not a tough opponent for Indonesia, especially now that there are quite good things in the development of the Indonesian national team, they are no longer a team that easily loses to any team and are quite happy to see this good development, only when talking about opportunities to qualifying for the World Cup is still quite difficult to achieve, I don't want to denigrate Indonesia, but in Asia itself they still have to prove that they are a strong team, in fact, it would be better for Indonesia not to qualify because it is very possible that they will be the weakest team in the tournament. Later it would be better to focus continue to build Indonesian football better and start by performing better in the Asian Cup and only after that targeting the World Cup and which takes quite a long time with the right development.

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