FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 145.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 26, 2023, 03:05:08 AM

Quote from: nullama on November 25, 2023, 08:00:46 PM

Yes, it all started as usual with a massive win for Brazil, but then a surprise lost match against Peru started everything. They then went to draw with Venezuela, which is arguably the weakest in the region, and then went on to lose three consecutive matches.

I don't think Brazil has ever performed this poorly at any previous qualifier.

We'll see if they can come back against Ecuador

I think this could happen because Brazil today is not the same as it used to be. Currently they only rely on Neymar. And it can be seen how they were so unprepared when Neymar was injured. When we look further, Brazil's 1-7 defeat against Germany in the world cup a few years ago was also due to Neymar being absent due to injury against Colombia (CMIIW because I can barely remember everything). This is very sad news because they brought 5 world cup stars to their country.

The Brazil team is not completely dependent on Neymar, maybe the team is having a bad time, it's normal because it happens. 2022 World Cup may have gone well for Argentina but Argentina's time before the 2022 World Cup was not good at all but still they came back from there and won the World Cup. If Brazil were a team that only depended on Neymar, the club would not have bought all the other players at such a high price.
The problem for Brazil now is that seven to nine players from their starting XI are injured and outright sidelined. They are playing in the World Cup qualifiers with a completely new team. Despite playing with a completely new team, Brazil's performance should have been a little better. Chances are not over for Brazil, there are still many matches left and I am sure Brazil will qualify for the World Cup.

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Quote from: leonair on November 26, 2023, 06:17:20 AM

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This is not a problem because Brazil is very advanced in the world of football and they will prepare very well before that World Cup. Brazil has no chance of being eliminated in the qualifying round. Because they are a strong enough team Neymar is a very good player and he gives enough effort for Brazil to perform well. So qualification is not a problem for Brazil. They will need to prepare well before the next World Cup starts and try to win the cup.

Yeah, I think Brazil at the moment is having a tough mental game.

They clearly have the technical skills to be at the top, but their surprise lost at the second match might have done something to their minds.

This then affected the next games, and it spiraled down.

What Brazil needs now is a good leader, coach, captain, etc. Fixing their mental health will make them go straight to the top.

If they continue like this, without fixing their mindset, they might even not qualify for the world cup. And that would be the first time in history that happens. And yeah, that's a lot of responsibility for these boys.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 26, 2023, 04:26:24 PM

Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 25, 2023, 03:35:33 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on November 25, 2023, 01:14:06 AM

Yes, the World Cup competition will last longer with more matches and more time to spend, in fact I agree with your opinion.
Even though it takes longer and the first few matches are considered qualifying matches, at least it can be said to be new capitalism.
In the sense that more money comes in because more matches will bring in more spectators who will buy tickets and affect the financial development of organizers and those who have businesses in the area around the stadium that is used.

I admit that football has been infiltrated by capitalism. Everyone needs money. The organizers want profits, the national team wants to get big prizes, broadcast rights owners will also get more profits because there are more and more matches. I don't know whether this is good news or bad news for world football but in this day and age I think everything in this world will be influenced by capitalism itself.

Maybe you didn't know this but football is a business in many countries they try to earn money from football. I think that's not right to say money is important in football and that's not good because money can change many things in the world and it's not just about football.
Some countries have bad management systems and that's the problem it's not all about spending money.

Gone are those days football was being played majorly because of the sake of how passionate footballer are or can be. Modern day football is significantly influenced by the financial packages that comes with it and that's why the management of football at all levels are always adopting new football rules that'll yield a lot of money so they can use the proceeds to develop football the more.

The 48-team FIFA World Cup tournament will further generate more financial rewards than that of the 32-team format that's been in adopted for a a very long time. The more financial returns from the 48- team format will also make FIFA to increase the amount of money each participating country receives as well. I don't think there's anything that's gonna stop money from being the major decider in future football developments

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 25, 2023, 03:35:33 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on November 25, 2023, 01:14:06 AM

Yes, the World Cup competition will last longer with more matches and more time to spend, in fact I agree with your opinion.
Even though it takes longer and the first few matches are considered qualifying matches, at least it can be said to be new capitalism.
In the sense that more money comes in because more matches will bring in more spectators who will buy tickets and affect the financial development of organizers and those who have businesses in the area around the stadium that is used.

I admit that football has been infiltrated by capitalism. Everyone needs money. The organizers want profits, the national team wants to get big prizes, broadcast rights owners will also get more profits because there are more and more matches. I don't know whether this is good news or bad news for world football but in this day and age I think everything in this world will be influenced by capitalism itself.

Maybe you didn't know this but football is a business in many countries they try to earn money from football. I think that's not right to say money is important in football and that's not good because money can change many things in the world and it's not just about football.
Some countries have bad management systems and that's the problem it's not all about spending money.

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Quote from: nullama on November 25, 2023, 08:00:46 PM

Quote from: fuguebtc on November 25, 2023, 10:49:57 AM

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Brazil did not perform well in this match and I think the recent performance of Brazil has not been very good as well. They have lost 3 matches in a row if I am not wrong. And that is just not good. They are a better team than just giving excuses. They should own up to their mistakes and should say that even though the performance has not been good in recent times and a lot of players are unavailable they are going to bring in better results in future games. That's what people want to hear and that's what they should do for sure.

These are the latest qualification results for Brazil:

Brazil 5-1 Bolivia

Peru 0-1 Brazil

Brazil 1-1 Venezuela

Uruguay 2-0 Brazil

Colombia 2-1 Brazil

Brazil 0-1 Argentina

Yes, it all started as usual with a massive win for Brazil, but then a surprise lost match against Peru started everything. They then went to draw with Venezuela, which is arguably the weakest in the region, and then went on to lose three consecutive matches.

I don't think Brazil has ever performed this poorly at any previous qualifier.

We'll see if they can come back against Ecuador

Brazil's golden age is clearly over and they can't obviously have a good performance like they had before. I think the best thing Brazil can do is use some top-level coaches and try to develop their football, otherwise, they are going to have even worse performance in the next years.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 26, 2023, 03:05:08 AM

Quote from: nullama on November 25, 2023, 08:00:46 PM

Yes, it all started as usual with a massive win for Brazil, but then a surprise lost match against Peru started everything. They then went to draw with Venezuela, which is arguably the weakest in the region, and then went on to lose three consecutive matches.

I don't think Brazil has ever performed this poorly at any previous qualifier.

We'll see if they can come back against Ecuador

I think this could happen because Brazil today is not the same as it used to be. Currently they only rely on Neymar. And it can be seen how they were so unprepared when Neymar was injured. When we look further, Brazil's 1-7 defeat against Germany in the world cup a few years ago was also due to Neymar being absent due to injury against Colombia (CMIIW because I can barely remember everything). This is very sad news because they brought 5 world cup stars to their country.

This is not a problem because Brazil is very advanced in the world of football and they will prepare very well before that World Cup. Brazil has no chance of being eliminated in the qualifying round. Because they are a strong enough team Neymar is a very good player and he gives enough effort for Brazil to perform well. So qualification is not a problem for Brazil. They will need to prepare well before the next World Cup starts and try to win the cup.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on November 25, 2023, 09:29:16 AM

I don't think problem for Brazilr regarding with poor performance on last several matches, CONMEBOL zone have many matches left and not difficult finish around top six standing position above for locking one place on FIFA World Cup 2026. Not really important have to finish on first position because CONMEBOL have sixth position standing above automatically will qualify to World Cup 2026.

Current situation not really good for Brazil but upcoming qualifying match they will have new manager Carlo Ancelotti actually he will make many change for helping Brazil with better performance. Actually, Brazil opportunity to lead top position is not close yet regarding ability for winning all matches left or not but finish on automatically qualify standing is better although can't get first positipn place.

Brazil in their last few games haven't been doing so well in their performances, it may likely be threatening to their world cup appearance but I believe they know where and when to make the changes, the CONMEBOL will qualify six teams to the world cup and considering the number of games left, Brazil still stands a chance, their poor play doesn't necessarily mean they're degraded fully.

A new manager would do more trick for them also knowing that this manager is one who's experienced, humble and skilful, It's very much possible that the difference will start when their qualifiers resumes next year, We anticipate the full teams performance at that time,Brazil needs to do their possible best to make sure they qualify else they'll mix out the fun in the upcoming World Cup.

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Quote from: nullama on November 25, 2023, 08:00:46 PM

Yes, it all started as usual with a massive win for Brazil, but then a surprise lost match against Peru started everything. They then went to draw with Venezuela, which is arguably the weakest in the region, and then went on to lose three consecutive matches.

I don't think Brazil has ever performed this poorly at any previous qualifier.

We'll see if they can come back against Ecuador

I think this could happen because Brazil today is not the same as it used to be. Currently they only rely on Neymar. And it can be seen how they were so unprepared when Neymar was injured. When we look further, Brazil's 1-7 defeat against Germany in the world cup a few years ago was also due to Neymar being absent due to injury against Colombia (CMIIW because I can barely remember everything). This is very sad news because they brought 5 world cup stars to their country.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on November 25, 2023, 10:49:57 AM

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Brazil did not perform well in this match and I think the recent performance of Brazil has not been very good as well. They have lost 3 matches in a row if I am not wrong. And that is just not good. They are a better team than just giving excuses. They should own up to their mistakes and should say that even though the performance has not been good in recent times and a lot of players are unavailable they are going to bring in better results in future games. That's what people want to hear and that's what they should do for sure.

These are the latest qualification results for Brazil:

Brazil 5-1 Bolivia

Peru 0-1 Brazil

Brazil 1-1 Venezuela

Uruguay 2-0 Brazil

Colombia 2-1 Brazil

Brazil 0-1 Argentina

Yes, it all started as usual with a massive win for Brazil, but then a surprise lost match against Peru started everything. They then went to draw with Venezuela, which is arguably the weakest in the region, and then went on to lose three consecutive matches.

I don't think Brazil has ever performed this poorly at any previous qualifier.

We'll see if they can come back against Ecuador

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Quote from: fuguebtc on November 25, 2023, 10:49:57 AM

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Quote from: samuraijin on November 24, 2023, 11:29:49 AM

It is very clear that Berazil always relies on Neymar as a reference when fighting against big countries, especially Argentina, which is actually the defending champion. Of course the coach and players think hard to get points in this match. In fact, Berazil has classy players and seems capable of containing Argentina, no matter what. Whether Messi is there or not, it seems like Berazil will be able to get points, at least a draw is the main point, but if Berazil's teamwork takes advantage of his chances, he can win.

Brazil feel so reluctant that is the course, its not that Brazil was depending on a Neymar, because Neymar is only one player and since its a player it can only occupy a space of one person, the losing of the match by Brazil is something that started from the arrangement of the match, so I believe very well that Argentina doesn't not feel a reluctant in any match that concerns them with all this big football countries they basically make sure that they have defeated their counterpart in any game, but the squad of Brazil is what makes everyone predicted that either Brazil win the match it becomes draw, but Argentina take advantages of Brazil because they came prepared.

I remember during the summer Ancelotti was very close to joining the Brazil team and even we re waiting to see him sign a contract with this team but in the end, he stayed in Real Madrid and even the president of Bazril started complaining about having any foreign coach and said they prefer to use Brazilian coaches instead of the coaches like Ancelotti. Now even he feels regret because the current situation in Brazil is not good at all.

Brazil did not perform well in this match and I think the recent performance of Brazil has not been very good as well. They have lost 3 matches in a row if I am not wrong. And that is just not good. They are a better team than just giving excuses. They should own up to their mistakes and should say that even though the performance has not been good in recent times and a lot of players are unavailable they are going to bring in better results in future games. That's what people want to hear and that's what they should do for sure.

The only excuse Brazil can have is about Neymar in this match because this team was playing with full power and I think they could even beat Argentina in a normal situation but they failed and I think this Brazil can't achieve anything in the 2026 World Cup with the current performance we can see from this team because they were disappointing so far in the recent game we saw.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 25, 2023, 03:35:33 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on November 25, 2023, 01:14:06 AM

Yes, the World Cup competition will last longer with more matches and more time to spend, in fact I agree with your opinion.
Even though it takes longer and the first few matches are considered qualifying matches, at least it can be said to be new capitalism.
In the sense that more money comes in because more matches will bring in more spectators who will buy tickets and affect the financial development of organizers and those who have businesses in the area around the stadium that is used.

I admit that football has been infiltrated by capitalism. Everyone needs money. The organizers want profits, the national team wants to get big prizes, broadcast rights owners will also get more profits because there are more and more matches. I don't know whether this is good news or bad news for world football but in this day and age I think everything in this world will be influenced by capitalism itself.

I mean that is sort of where all industries eventually go, growing constantly causes eventually one person to get it bigger, and because of that everyone else has an issue and they need to grow one way or another as well.

Football is something that is getting more and more and more money put into it every day, and because of that, everyone wants a piece of it. World cup is a huge organization, watched by billions all around the world, and that means they could make a lot more money, from ads to sponsors to everything else, we are talking about something huge, we are talking about billions of dollars earned every 4 years, not that many companies make that much money, only a few does.

So, it is normal that they would want more money from every world cup, if you earn a lot from 2022 and not from 2026, then you need to wait until 2030 and hope that you earn a lot there, if not then it's 2034, so over a decade later for that to really happen in the end.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 24, 2023, 06:33:02 PM

Quote from: Onyeeze on November 24, 2023, 04:29:04 PM

Quote from: samuraijin on November 24, 2023, 11:29:49 AM

It is very clear that Berazil always relies on Neymar as a reference when fighting against big countries, especially Argentina, which is actually the defending champion. Of course the coach and players think hard to get points in this match. In fact, Berazil has classy players and seems capable of containing Argentina, no matter what. Whether Messi is there or not, it seems like Berazil will be able to get points, at least a draw is the main point, but if Berazil's teamwork takes advantage of his chances, he can win.

Brazil feel so reluctant that is the course, its not that Brazil was depending on a Neymar, because Neymar is only one player and since its a player it can only occupy a space of one person, the losing of the match by Brazil is something that started from the arrangement of the match, so I believe very well that Argentina doesn't not feel a reluctant in any match that concerns them with all this big football countries they basically make sure that they have defeated their counterpart in any game, but the squad of Brazil is what makes everyone predicted that either Brazil win the match it becomes draw, but Argentina take advantages of Brazil because they came prepared.

I remember during the summer Ancelotti was very close to joining the Brazil team and even we re waiting to see him sign a contract with this team but in the end, he stayed in Real Madrid and even the president of Bazril started complaining about having any foreign coach and said they prefer to use Brazilian coaches instead of the coaches like Ancelotti. Now even he feels regret because the current situation in Brazil is not good at all.

Brazil did not perform well in this match and I think the recent performance of Brazil has not been very good as well. They have lost 3 matches in a row if I am not wrong. And that is just not good. They are a better team than just giving excuses. They should own up to their mistakes and should say that even though the performance has not been good in recent times and a lot of players are unavailable they are going to bring in better results in future games. That's what people want to hear and that's what they should do for sure.

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Quote from: FanEagle on November 25, 2023, 01:06:18 AM

I think Brazil will be fine, they may have a bad period right now but that doesn't mean that we are talking about anything that would be making them not go to World cup one day, they will go there, plus their COİNMEBOL situation will be fine too, even if they end up losing, that's fine, not like they win every single time, like Argentina won it last time, so it's fine.

This reminds me, Argentina did so well, they won Coinmebol first, then the world cup, we could say that it has been the greatest period in Argentian football for the longest time, that's really a great deal for them. I think we should be considering that an important situation and it could benefit them in the end. I hope that we could get to a point where we could see it grow.

I don't think problem for Brazilr regarding with poor performance on last several matches, CONMEBOL zone have many matches left and not difficult finish around top six standing position above for locking one place on FIFA World Cup 2026. Not really important have to finish on first position because CONMEBOL have sixth position standing above automatically will qualify to World Cup 2026.

Current situation not really good for Brazil but upcoming qualifying match they will have new manager Carlo Ancelotti actually he will make many change for helping Brazil with better performance. Actually, Brazil opportunity to lead top position is not close yet regarding ability for winning all matches left or not but finish on automatically qualify standing is better although can't get first positipn place.

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Quote from: FanEagle on November 25, 2023, 01:06:18 AM

I think Brazil will be fine, they may have a bad period right now but that doesn't mean that we are talking about anything that would be making them not go to World cup one day, they will go there, plus their COİNMEBOL situation will be fine too, even if they end up losing, that's fine, not like they win every single time, like Argentina won it last time, so it's fine.

This reminds me, Argentina did so well, they won Coinmebol first, then the world cup, we could say that it has been the greatest period in Argentian football for the longest time, that's really a great deal for them. I think we should be considering that an important situation and it could benefit them in the end. I hope that we could get to a point where we could see it grow.

Brazil has been at their best all time and they've been able to secure spots in the FIFA world cup too, Asides that they've been able to be victorious in the continental tournaments and they seem as the major threat to Argentina, they've got quality players in their squad and these players have been doing their own part to take the team to competitions and have been victorious most times.

For Argentina, they've been major continental champions, the last continental contest, they came out top and still went ahead to win the world cup, that's one great feat for a national team in a year. We await what this year holds for these two teams. Will they be able to come out tops in both contest, yes they will definitely make the contest tedious for each other.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on November 23, 2023, 01:25:17 AM

The last 4 games were very bad, you are right, they didnt win any of them. Against Venezuela they should have win, but just before the end in minute 85 they got the 1:1 and play a drew. If they won that game, they would have been ahead of Argentina in the group, both with 9 points, but Brazil with more goals. After the game it got worse, losing vs Uruguay, Colombia and now Argentina. The next games are 9 months away, with the European Championship in Germany in between, which I think is the best thing for Brazil not to play at the moment.

Brazil started their qualifiers with a spectacular 5-1 win over Bolivia at the Estádio Olímpico do Pará in Belém. And then, in the next match they struggled but ended up with a 1-0 win against Peru. After that things went rapidly downhill for them. During the third match, they conceded a 1-1 draw against one of the weakest teams in CONMEBOL (Venezuela). They were leading with a margin of 1-0 till the 85th minute, before Eduard Bello made it 1-1 to give Venezuela a precious point against Brazil. Horrorfest followed, with loses against Uruguay (0-2), Colombia (1-2) and Argentina (0-1).

I think Brazil will be fine, they may have a bad period right now but that doesn't mean that we are talking about anything that would be making them not go to World cup one day, they will go there, plus their COİNMEBOL situation will be fine too, even if they end up losing, that's fine, not like they win every single time, like Argentina won it last time, so it's fine.

If Brazil does not immediately improve, it is not impossible that Brazil will make a bad history in the next world cup and will not be able to go to the next World Cup. Moreover, among the teams that have competed in the World Cup, Brazil is the only team that has never missed a world cup. Brazil must immediately improve if they want to go to the world cup later. Brazil must immediately look for a quality coach because currently Brazil is managed by a temporary coach and it can be seen that Brazil's performance has decreased significantly. Moreover, currently Brazil is far behind Argentina, which is at the top of the CONMEBOL standings.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on November 25, 2023, 01:14:06 AM

Yes, the World Cup competition will last longer with more matches and more time to spend, in fact I agree with your opinion.
Even though it takes longer and the first few matches are considered qualifying matches, at least it can be said to be new capitalism.
In the sense that more money comes in because more matches will bring in more spectators who will buy tickets and affect the financial development of organizers and those who have businesses in the area around the stadium that is used.

I admit that football has been infiltrated by capitalism. Everyone needs money. The organizers want profits, the national team wants to get big prizes, broadcast rights owners will also get more profits because there are more and more matches. I don't know whether this is good news or bad news for world football but in this day and age I think everything in this world will be influenced by capitalism itself.

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Quote from: nullama on November 24, 2023, 08:46:00 PM

Quote from: Volgastallion on November 24, 2023, 12:53:23 PM

Im gonna said this one more time, this next world cup, is gonna be pure show, this new format is a shit for performance, only in late stages we are gonna see good matches, the new one is pure capitalism and commercial things a new machine to make money, more teams (no matter his level) more games, more people watching the games, so for me the world cup of footballs tart to loose some quality right now.

I'm not too sure about that.

In my mind the next world cup will basically have a longer qualification period. That is, the first few matches of the world cup could be seen as qualification matches.

Yes, the World Cup competition will last longer with more matches and more time to spend, in fact I agree with your opinion.
Even though it takes longer and the first few matches are considered qualifying matches, at least it can be said to be new capitalism.
In the sense that more money comes in because more matches will bring in more spectators who will buy tickets and affect the financial development of organizers and those who have businesses in the area around the stadium that is used.

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Those are still fun to watch, and they might be able to do something interesting with it, as a kind of inter-conference qualification for the next round for example. That could be fun to watch.

In fact, matches like that are not that interesting because they cannot bring together great teams, whereas matches can be really interesting and provide entertainment when the match is between two teams that both have quality and strength above the average team in general.
I sure the match will really erupt when it reaches the round of 16.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 23, 2023, 01:59:06 AM

Quote from: MinoRaiola on November 23, 2023, 01:25:17 AM

The last 4 games were very bad, you are right, they didnt win any of them. Against Venezuela they should have win, but just before the end in minute 85 they got the 1:1 and play a drew. If they won that game, they would have been ahead of Argentina in the group, both with 9 points, but Brazil with more goals. After the game it got worse, losing vs Uruguay, Colombia and now Argentina. The next games are 9 months away, with the European Championship in Germany in between, which I think is the best thing for Brazil not to play at the moment.

Brazil started their qualifiers with a spectacular 5-1 win over Bolivia at the Estádio Olímpico do Pará in Belém. And then, in the next match they struggled but ended up with a 1-0 win against Peru. After that things went rapidly downhill for them. During the third match, they conceded a 1-1 draw against one of the weakest teams in CONMEBOL (Venezuela). They were leading with a margin of 1-0 till the 85th minute, before Eduard Bello made it 1-1 to give Venezuela a precious point against Brazil. Horrorfest followed, with loses against Uruguay (0-2), Colombia (1-2) and Argentina (0-1).

I think Brazil will be fine, they may have a bad period right now but that doesn't mean that we are talking about anything that would be making them not go to World cup one day, they will go there, plus their COİNMEBOL situation will be fine too, even if they end up losing, that's fine, not like they win every single time, like Argentina won it last time, so it's fine.

This reminds me, Argentina did so well, they won Coinmebol first, then the world cup, we could say that it has been the greatest period in Argentian football for the longest time, that's really a great deal for them. I think we should be considering that an important situation and it could benefit them in the end. I hope that we could get to a point where we could see it grow.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on November 24, 2023, 12:53:23 PM

Im gonna said this one more time, this next world cup, is gonna be pure show, this new format is a shit for performance, only in late stages we are gonna see good matches, the new one is pure capitalism and commercial things a new machine to make money, more teams (no matter his level) more games, more people watching the games, so for me the world cup of footballs tart to loose some quality right now.

That's just your opinion, because the countries that will compete in the 2026 World Cup with a larger number of participants will still consider it a big event that is interesting to watch, and no matter how much you don't like the new format, it is not a benchmark for FIFA and the broadcast later, and if you say it's just a money maker, isn't that what has been happening in football for a long time, you can see how money is the main support for the World Cup, and also how money is the way the Arab League influences older players to play in the league to increase the quality and popularity of their league, so actually money is also needed to increase the quality.
Money is part of sport and all athletes apart from chasing titles also chase money so it has become a natural part of sport, and because of the money they will be able to earn they improve the quality of their game. You just need to turn off your television later if you don't see the quality of the World Cup matches later Wink

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Quote from: Patrol69 on November 23, 2023, 07:14:22 AM

Brazil-Argentina match means a different kind of excitement as we have known for a long time but what happened in the latest Brazil-Argentina match can never be honorable for any team. Argentina fans were beaten and bloodied by security personnel in the gallery, and the incident drew widespread criticism worldwide. Not only Brazil's security personnel are to be blamed here, but we also noticed some ferocity from the Argentine fans. The security staff can take any decision to provide maximum security and that decision must be respected by the fans in the gallery but the Argentine fans got into an argument with the security staff without paying any attention to them. Arguing with the security personnel, the Argentine supporters got a little too rough on the security personnel and threw whatever they had in their hands at the security personnel, forcing the security personnel to charge with batons. But we would like to forget this kind of incident soon and hope that such unpleasant incidents do not happen in the future.

All the time Brazil and Argentina clashes have always been of fans' interests and everyone is always eager to see the outcome of the games no doubt sometimes the games have ended fairly without mishaps and some other times, there's been chaos between the fans during or after the game, their last clash wasn't an exemption but this time it was between hyper active fans and stadium security personnels.

On a normal ground, it's very wrong attacking a security personnel at the dispersion of his duty and now this said attack by these fans led to a fair provocation who had to retaliate and force back order to the place and it led to rowdiness, for me the security only reacted out of provocation but the fan acted insolently and should be given an appropriate punishment,

I really don't know how the rule works there but if it's to be judged fairly, then the fan was a bigger culprit. His act alone, posed a security threat so in the security personnel's defense, he was only reacting to security threats in rhe gallery and definitely he was left with no option than to do all within his power to prevent the threat from breaking out into a full stadium interruption, the matter should be looked into and the fan be served his appropriate punishment.

It seems to me that the supporters themselves are responsible for the torture that the supporters have been subjected to by the security personnel. The general public and the fans should help the security personnel to perform their duties properly but we did not notice that from the Argentine fans. I myself have been to stadiums many times but never seen such a rowdy crowd. When the security personnel told the supporters to calm down, the supporters started hitting the security personnel, on the contrary, the security personnel tolerated it for a long time but when the situation went beyond their tolerance, they resorted to lathi charge. Argentina fans were involved in an argument with Brazil fans that could have been worse had the security personnel not intervened. As the security personnel came to normalize the situation, the Argentine supporter should have helped the security personnel instead of arguing with them.

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