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Quote from: Docnaster on October 16, 2023, 12:33:54 PM

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Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi has played in five different editions of the FIFA World Cup which I think is very okay for the two players to take a bow from the competition. Ronaldo will be 41 while Lionel Messi would be 39 when the next edition of the world cup will take place in three North America countries.
Though not totally impossible to see the two players in the tournament once again but I think it's very unlikely to happen

Appearing five times in the world cup is just insane if you think about it.

That's 20 years at the peak of your career. Some other people just barely made it to one appearance and treasure it. These guys have been there for two decades.

In a similar way, this reminded me of Brazil, the only country in the world that has qualified to every single world cup in the history of the sport. That's almost a century at the top level.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 16, 2023, 12:27:17 PM

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Messi would be 39 by the next world cup and he is yet to make an official statement as regards if he will be playing in the world cup or not but then people are still speculating his appearance in the next world cup and hoping that will be his point not retirement, but then I think Messi would really want to participate because he may be too old at that time to participate in the world cup games but then if we see him participate then that's fine but if not it's not a problem too.

I think Messi will still participate in the 2026 World Cup but he will not be Argentina's key player at that time. I think Messi will have a very big influence on Argentina's young players. I think the existence of Messi, who is considered equal to another Argentinian football god, namely Maradona, will really increase the confidence of Argentine players and will increase their winning mentality. Messi's performance may decline physically, but mentally Messi is the best for Argentina in the 2026 World Cup.

Messi is still in a good form and I think that 2026 FIFA World Cup will be his last of his career but who knows what can happen in such an unpredictable tournament like the World Cup,remember the final of 2022,France had not shot on goal until the 73th minute and Argentina was comfortably leading yet in the final stages of the game they even risked to lose the cup.The teams will surely be better prepared as the weather is different in USA,Canada and Mexico compared to what it is in Qatar,the heat surely must have made some players not give their 100% so I think Argentina can still rely on Messi for another last World Cup and hope for the best.

I know that by the next World Cup, Lionel Messi is going to be 39 and Cristiano Ronaldo is probably going to be 41/42 if I am not wrong. But I still want to see these two play for their own country in the World Cup final, to be honest. Maybe it is just me. Maybe it is just my emotions talking. For the longest time, I wanted to see the World Cup being lifted by Lionel Messi. now I have seen that happen.

Now I do want to see Cristiano Ronaldo lifting the World Cup trophy as well. I don't know, maybe it will not happen. But it would definitely be really something to see. And Lionel Messi playing the next World Cup, I think he will play, but we know that he has already won the World Cup. So he will probably be more interested in being a good substitute player instead of a player who will play the whole 90 minutes.

I think it's time for us to pass and don't think about players like Ronaldo and Messi playing the next World Cup in 2026 because there are many other younger after they can even have the chance to perform better than these players.
Also, these players chose teams like Al Nassr and Inter Miami which meant they accepted the fact that they were not in good form anymore. Letting these players play in the next world can't be a good idea at all.

Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi has played in five different editions of the FIFA World Cup which I think is very okay for the two players to take a bow from the competition. Ronaldo will be 41 while Lionel Messi would be 39 when the next edition of the world cup will take place in three North America countries.
Though not totally impossible to see the two players in the tournament once again but I think it's very unlikely to happen

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Quote from: Ayers on October 16, 2023, 12:09:05 AM

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Messi would be 39 by the next world cup and he is yet to make an official statement as regards if he will be playing in the world cup or not but then people are still speculating his appearance in the next world cup and hoping that will be his point not retirement, but then I think Messi would really want to participate because he may be too old at that time to participate in the world cup games but then if we see him participate then that's fine but if not it's not a problem too.

I think Messi will still participate in the 2026 World Cup but he will not be Argentina's key player at that time. I think Messi will have a very big influence on Argentina's young players. I think the existence of Messi, who is considered equal to another Argentinian football god, namely Maradona, will really increase the confidence of Argentine players and will increase their winning mentality. Messi's performance may decline physically, but mentally Messi is the best for Argentina in the 2026 World Cup.

Messi is still in a good form and I think that 2026 FIFA World Cup will be his last of his career but who knows what can happen in such an unpredictable tournament like the World Cup,remember the final of 2022,France had not shot on goal until the 73th minute and Argentina was comfortably leading yet in the final stages of the game they even risked to lose the cup.The teams will surely be better prepared as the weather is different in USA,Canada and Mexico compared to what it is in Qatar,the heat surely must have made some players not give their 100% so I think Argentina can still rely on Messi for another last World Cup and hope for the best.

I know that by the next World Cup, Lionel Messi is going to be 39 and Cristiano Ronaldo is probably going to be 41/42 if I am not wrong. But I still want to see these two play for their own country in the World Cup final, to be honest. Maybe it is just me. Maybe it is just my emotions talking. For the longest time, I wanted to see the World Cup being lifted by Lionel Messi. now I have seen that happen.

Now I do want to see Cristiano Ronaldo lifting the World Cup trophy as well. I don't know, maybe it will not happen. But it would definitely be really something to see. And Lionel Messi playing the next World Cup, I think he will play, but we know that he has already won the World Cup. So he will probably be more interested in being a good substitute player instead of a player who will play the whole 90 minutes.

I think it's time for us to pass and don't think about players like Ronaldo and Messi playing the next World Cup in 2026 because there are many other younger after they can even have the chance to perform better than these players.
Also, these players chose teams like Al Nassr and Inter Miami which meant they accepted the fact that they were not in good form anymore. Letting these players play in the next world can't be a good idea at all.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 15, 2023, 06:18:17 PM

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Good point and there are some players I'm waiting to see them in the next World Cup in 2026. Because so fat they had an amazing performance in these teams. For example, Jude Bellingham's performance in Real Madrid was awesome so far but I'm working if he can have the same performance in the 2026 World Cup or not.

Yeah, personally I'm hoping to see some new talent in the 2026 World Cup.

For me the 2022 World Cup was all about Messi and the rest of the retiring players like Cristiano Ronaldo, but looking into the next one I really hope to see some fresh young players with new names.

That's what makes it exciting.

Mbappé is 24 for example, and I think he showed an amazing 2022 World Cup. Maybe he will shine brighter in the 2026 edition, but if you think about it maybe there are some 15-16 year olds around the world waiting to be discovered. That sounds more exciting than seeing the same stars always.

I mean, I still like to see the elite players in the field, but it's nice to discover new ones as well...

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Messi would be 39 by the next world cup and he is yet to make an official statement as regards if he will be playing in the world cup or not but then people are still speculating his appearance in the next world cup and hoping that will be his point not retirement, but then I think Messi would really want to participate because he may be too old at that time to participate in the world cup games but then if we see him participate then that's fine but if not it's not a problem too.

I think Messi will still participate in the 2026 World Cup but he will not be Argentina's key player at that time. I think Messi will have a very big influence on Argentina's young players. I think the existence of Messi, who is considered equal to another Argentinian football god, namely Maradona, will really increase the confidence of Argentine players and will increase their winning mentality. Messi's performance may decline physically, but mentally Messi is the best for Argentina in the 2026 World Cup.

Messi is still in a good form and I think that 2026 FIFA World Cup will be his last of his career but who knows what can happen in such an unpredictable tournament like the World Cup,remember the final of 2022,France had not shot on goal until the 73th minute and Argentina was comfortably leading yet in the final stages of the game they even risked to lose the cup.The teams will surely be better prepared as the weather is different in USA,Canada and Mexico compared to what it is in Qatar,the heat surely must have made some players not give their 100% so I think Argentina can still rely on Messi for another last World Cup and hope for the best.

I know that by the next World Cup, Lionel Messi is going to be 39 and Cristiano Ronaldo is probably going to be 41/42 if I am not wrong. But I still want to see these two play for their own country in the World Cup final, to be honest. Maybe it is just me. Maybe it is just my emotions talking. For the longest time, I wanted to see the World Cup being lifted by Lionel Messi. now I have seen that happen.

Now I do want to see Cristiano Ronaldo lifting the World Cup trophy as well. I don't know, maybe it will not happen. But it would definitely be really something to see. And Lionel Messi playing the next World Cup, I think he will play, but we know that he has already won the World Cup. So he will probably be more interested in being a good substitute player instead of a player who will play the whole 90 minutes.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 15, 2023, 12:38:14 PM

The main question for this coming world cup is. Who si gonna be the new star? Haaland is gonna take part and start to breaking records? Remember he can score a lot of goals if the group is easy, we are gonna have very weaks teams in this one with the new format.

And how about Endrick for Brazil?

Talking about Haaland will be new star in FIFA World Cup 2026 seems early speculating because he doesn't opportunity will qualify or not with his country because still not drawing yet will be in difficult group or not. Better waiting with drawing qualifier group stage and how difficult group face by Norway, will get an easily group or difficult group stage.
For Endrick seems huge speculated because he still not on the top performance right now, actually Brazil have many top performed attacking line and Neymar still in regular squad right now. Difficult for seeing Endrick will be in Brazil national teams squad for FIFA World Cup 2026 actually his not in the list name in World Cup Qualifier CONMEBOL zone. How come he will get national called for World Cup 2026 if difficult get participants in qualifier round?

Yes, we have to remember that even though Haaland is a very good player, and probably one of the best in the world right now, his national team is not one of the best. we can hardly say that his national team is even good, to be honest. And it is really going to be a hard job for his national team to actually qualify for the World Cup. That's why I do not want to say anything right now about him being the star of the next World Cup.

By the way, do you guys think that Cristiano Ronaldo is going to play in the next World Cup? That guy is 38 years old and still contributing really well for his national side. Let's remember that Cristiano Ronaldo is a player who has scored more international goals after the age of 30 which has not been done by anyone from almost 190 countries.

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But for some reason, ESPN is still going to brainwash people into believing that Cristiano Ronaldo is holding Portugal back.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 15, 2023, 12:38:14 PM

The main question for this coming world cup is. Who si gonna be the new star? Haaland is gonna take part and start to breaking records? Remember he can score a lot of goals if the group is easy, we are gonna have very weaks teams in this one with the new format.

And how about Endrick for Brazil?

Norway cannot advance to later stages of World Cup even if they have quality players such as Haaland. This disadvantage will not make him a hero nor the best player.
Norway result in the actual EURO QUALIFIERS 2024 aren't that good with 3 defeats and three victories in addition to a draw..
I think Mbappe will be one of the best players in the upcoming World Cup

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 15, 2023, 12:38:14 PM

The main question for this coming world cup is. Who si gonna be the new star? Haaland is gonna take part and start to breaking records? Remember he can score a lot of goals if the group is easy, we are gonna have very weaks teams in this one with the new format.

And how about Endrick for Brazil?

Good point and there are some players I'm waiting to see them in the next World Cup in 2026. Because so fat they had an amazing performance in these teams. For example, Jude Bellingham's performance in Real Madrid was awesome so far but I'm working if he can have the same performance in the 2026 World Cup or not.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 15, 2023, 12:38:14 PM

The main question for this coming world cup is. Who si gonna be the new star? Haaland is gonna take part and start to breaking records? Remember he can score a lot of goals if the group is easy, we are gonna have very weaks teams in this one with the new format.

And how about Endrick for Brazil?

Talking about Haaland will be new star in FIFA World Cup 2026 seems early speculating because he doesn't opportunity will qualify or not with his country because still not drawing yet will be in difficult group or not. Better waiting with drawing qualifier group stage and how difficult group face by Norway, will get an easily group or difficult group stage.
For Endrick seems huge speculated because he still not on the top performance right now, actually Brazil have many top performed attacking line and Neymar still in regular squad right now. Difficult for seeing Endrick will be in Brazil national teams squad for FIFA World Cup 2026 actually his not in the list name in World Cup Qualifier CONMEBOL zone. How come he will get national called for World Cup 2026 if difficult get participants in qualifier round?

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The main question for this coming world cup is. Who si gonna be the new star? Haaland is gonna take part and start to breaking records? Remember he can score a lot of goals if the group is easy, we are gonna have very weaks teams in this one with the new format.

And how about Endrick for Brazil?

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on October 15, 2023, 10:01:44 AM

Quote from: Weawant on October 14, 2023, 03:26:26 PM

Messi would be 39 by the next world cup and he is yet to make an official statement as regards if he will be playing in the world cup or not but then people are still speculating his appearance in the next world cup and hoping that will be his point not retirement, but then I think Messi would really want to participate because he may be too old at that time to participate in the world cup games but then if we see him participate then that's fine but if not it's not a problem too.

I think Messi will still participate in the 2026 World Cup but he will not be Argentina's key player at that time. I think Messi will have a very big influence on Argentina's young players. I think the existence of Messi, who is considered equal to another Argentinian football god, namely Maradona, will really increase the confidence of Argentine players and will increase their winning mentality. Messi's performance may decline physically, but mentally Messi is the best for Argentina in the 2026 World Cup.

Messi is still in a good form and I think that 2026 FIFA World Cup will be his last of his career but who knows what can happen in such an unpredictable tournament like the World Cup,remember the final of 2022,France had not shot on goal until the 73th minute and Argentina was comfortably leading yet in the final stages of the game they even risked to lose the cup.The teams will surely be better prepared as the weather is different in USA,Canada and Mexico compared to what it is in Qatar,the heat surely must have made some players not give their 100% so I think Argentina can still rely on Messi for another last World Cup and hope for the best.

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I think Messi will still participate in the 2026 World Cup but he will not be Argentina's key player at that time. I think Messi will have a very big influence on Argentina's young players. I think the existence of Messi, who is considered equal to another Argentinian football god, namely Maradona, will really increase the confidence of Argentine players and will increase their winning mentality. Messi's performance may decline physically, but mentally Messi is the best for Argentina in the 2026 World Cup.

It's true, his presence in the Argentina squad can help lift the mentality of other players, like Ronaldo in the Portugal national team. If you look at various reports, Messi will only focus first on the 2024 Copa America, the World Cup event is still three years away. Personally, I also hope that Messi will still play in the 2026 World Cup, even though he won't play 90 minutes.

Currently, Argentina has managed to sweep three qualifying matches for the 2026 World Cup, and is at the top of the Conmebol zone standings by collecting 9 points, followed by Brazil, Colombia and Uruguay below.

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Quote from: Weawant on October 14, 2023, 03:26:26 PM

Messi would be 39 by the next world cup and he is yet to make an official statement as regards if he will be playing in the world cup or not but then people are still speculating his appearance in the next world cup and hoping that will be his point not retirement, but then I think Messi would really want to participate because he may be too old at that time to participate in the world cup games but then if we see him participate then that's fine but if not it's not a problem too.

I think Messi will still participate in the 2026 World Cup but he will not be Argentina's key player at that time. I think Messi will have a very big influence on Argentina's young players. I think the existence of Messi, who is considered equal to another Argentinian football god, namely Maradona, will really increase the confidence of Argentine players and will increase their winning mentality. Messi's performance may decline physically, but mentally Messi is the best for Argentina in the 2026 World Cup.

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Quote from: Weawant on October 14, 2023, 03:26:26 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 13, 2023, 06:03:50 PM

Not just Messi but I think that's the same for any other player and they need to accept any person will get old one day and they are not going to be the same as their years ago and payers like Ronaldo and Messi will have the same situation.
They had a good performance a few years ago when they were younger but these days we can't see the same good performance from them and that's why I think a player like Messi should not be in the next World Cup.

Ronaldo Is definitely going to accept a call from the Portuguese team if called upon because he still looks like he is interested in playing in the world cup for the last time before he finally retires, there are speculations he may want to retire by 2027 so he would want to play again in the world cup before retirement but I don't think age factor would be fair with him

Messi would be 39 by the next world cup and he is yet to make an official statement as regards if he will be playing in the world cup or not but then people are still speculating his appearance in the next world cup and hoping that will be his point not retirement, but then I think Messi would really want to participate because he may be too old at that time to participate in the world cup games but then if we see him participate then that's fine but if not it's not a problem too.

The silence of the players we are talking about regarding when they will retire is an interesting one at the moment. I'm kind of revisiting the conversation before the Qatar World Cup. I'm going to assume here.
Assuming that they're going to feature again in the next World Cup, then surely we'll all be paying special attention to them, and actually that happened in the last World Cup as well. Qatar World Cup being the event where Messi finally got the World Cup title, is it Ronaldo's turn? It's a pretty wild thought, but it's a question that keeps coming back to me. Lol

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 13, 2023, 06:03:50 PM

Not just Messi but I think that's the same for any other player and they need to accept any person will get old one day and they are not going to be the same as their years ago and payers like Ronaldo and Messi will have the same situation.
They had a good performance a few years ago when they were younger but these days we can't see the same good performance from them and that's why I think a player like Messi should not be in the next World Cup.

Ronaldo Is definitely going to accept a call from the Portuguese team if called upon because he still looks like he is interested in playing in the world cup for the last time before he finally retires, there are speculations he may want to retire by 2027 so he would want to play again in the world cup before retirement but I don't think age factor would be fair with him

Messi would be 39 by the next world cup and he is yet to make an official statement as regards if he will be playing in the world cup or not but then people are still speculating his appearance in the next world cup and hoping that will be his point not retirement, but then I think Messi would really want to participate because he may be too old at that time to participate in the world cup games but then if we see him participate then that's fine but if not it's not a problem too.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 13, 2023, 03:16:59 PM

The majority of people who are fans of Messi, of CR7 are very large, they want to see him again, as I have said, it would be good if they could play a game between Argentina and Portugal, where the technicians have no shame in putting these two legends from beginning to end, that they do not start inventing to put them on the Bench as they are always bored by the technicians who have been through both squads, here things must happen as they are, with the greatest rivalry in football and show who is the best, that is where they will realize who is the best, until now Argentina is the defending champion, and Messi knows it, for that reason I don't think he is going to leave his teammates alone, because they obviously know that they need him , and With the Experience he has it is obvious.

I think even though they could meet at the 2026 World Cup, even though the chances are very, very small unless they are in the same group or both enter the final round, I think their rivalry is over. LM10 has played in MLS and CR7 has played in the Saudi pro league. I admit that they both still have decent quality but their next meeting from now on will no longer be about rivalry, but about their leadership and charisma on the field to bring or motivate young players in their respective countries if the two meet. I couldn't explain it any better but I think you know what I mean.

Maybe not at the finals because that would be very very difficult for both teams, I can see them face earlier on. I mean as soon as they go out of the group stages they could face each other, and if I am not wrong there is nothing stopping them from playing against each other on the group stages as well, that should be a good thing.

I believe that we need to arrange some friendlies to make sure they play any sooner than that because there doesn't seem to be one and I doubt that it would happen. However, at this point they are going to get near retirement age anyway and the game will not be all that talent loaded like they were back in the day. All those Real Madrid vs Barcelona games that they played against each other were amazing.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 14, 2023, 01:01:52 PM

The msot interesting think about Messi and Ronaldo is they still ahve all the focus, the new generation is fantastic and we can see Mbappe or Haaland taking the palce of them, but in the end i dont see in both of them the same glow, Ronaldo and Messi were diferent, and they have much more rivalry in the pitch.

I don't think there would be any player like Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo for a long time, if you look at Cristiano Ronaldo come up, he has always been a good player but he got to god status when he moved to Real Madrid and they club built the team around him and same thing with Leonel Messi, Barcelona built the team around him and this increased their confidence and also their global image.

In present day football is hard to see a team built around one player. Now many other players in teams also want that same recognition and also coaches wants to be seen as the reason for the club's success so except we have a very good player in a team with amazing players and a good coach that has agreed to build the team around a player .

Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi happens only once and we were lucky to see a huge battle between them for a long time. I dont think that there is anyone even close to the rivarly or to their level. Mbappe is looking really good and Haaland but that just isnt the rivarly. This two players will be good but not even close to Messi or Ronaldo.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 14, 2023, 01:01:52 PM

The msot interesting think about Messi and Ronaldo is they still ahve all the focus, the new generation is fantastic and we can see Mbappe or Haaland taking the palce of them, but in the end i dont see in both of them the same glow, Ronaldo and Messi were diferent, and they have much more rivalry in the pitch.

I don't think there would be any player like Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo for a long time, if you look at Cristiano Ronaldo come up, he has always been a good player but he got to god status when he moved to Real Madrid and they club built the team around him and same thing with Leonel Messi, Barcelona built the team around him and this increased their confidence and also their global image.

In present day football is hard to see a team built around one player. Now many other players in teams also want that same recognition and also coaches wants to be seen as the reason for the club's success so except we have a very good player in a team with amazing players and a good coach that has agreed to build the team around a player .

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 12, 2023, 08:55:45 PM

Messi was needed during the 2022 Qatar World Cup. But I am not sure whether that will be the case in 2026. He is no longer playing in European leagues and therefore I am not sure whether he will be having the same abilities to compete at the top-most level. Also, there is no dearth of younger players as far as Argentina is concerned. Pushing till 2026 is going to be risky for both Messi and Argentina. And there is a good chance that he will struggle and the coach maybe left in a dilemma whether to include him in the squad or not.

If Lionel Messi not on the top level when World Cup 2026 I think he still needs in Argentina teams become motivate for young players, actually Messi still in Argentina squad for Qualifier round and seems still top level performance with Inter Miami he will priority as important player for Argentina in FIFA World Cup 2026. Have much values when Lionel Messi still in Argentina squad for World Cup 2026, its not about his performance only but also Lionel Messi effort highest values or advertising and Argentina fans still needed with Lionel Messi contribution. There are not reason have to leave Lionel Messi not participants in World Cup 2026 depend on top performance level.

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The msot interesting think about Messi and Ronaldo is they still ahve all the focus, the new generation is fantastic and we can see Mbappe or Haaland taking the palce of them, but in the end i dont see in both of them the same glow, Ronaldo and Messi were diferent, and they have much more rivalry in the pitch.

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