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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 12, 2023, 03:38:33 PM

Based on the situation in North American countries I can say we are going to see a much better world cup than we saw in Qatar because they have enough stadiums to host the games and unlike Qatar, they don't take it hard for the visitors in their country about drinking alcohol which can be a good reason to say people who go America for watching world cup games will have better times there comparing to Qatar.

In terms of availability of alcohol, I can assure you that fans will not be disappointed in either of these three countries. I am more worried about the visa formalities. Getting a tourist visa to the US can be next to impossible, especially if you are residing in some of the third world nations such as India or Indonesia. I don't know much about Mexico and Canada, but hopefully getting a visa to these countries should be a lot easier. But then, almost 80% of the matches are scheduled to be held in the United States. What I don't want is fans spending their hard earned money in purchasing tickets and then not getting a chance to watch the matches as a result of visa complications.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 12, 2023, 03:38:33 PM

Based on the situation in North American countries I can say we are going to see a much better world cup than we saw in Qatar because they have enough stadiums to host the games and unlike Qatar, they don't take it hard for the visitors in their country about drinking alcohol which can be a good reason to say people who go America for watching world cup games will have better times there comparing to Qatar.

In fact, the issue of alcohol consumption is just a detail that makes very little difference between Qatar and North America.
However, the issue of people's freedom and more "flexible" customs will certainly make the visit of foreign fans much more pleasant and welcoming than it was in Qatar.
There is also the economic issue, I believe that watching games in American countries, paying for a hotel or even transportation will be much cheaper than in Qatar.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 12, 2023, 03:38:33 PM

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Based on the situation in North American countries I can say we are going to see a much better world cup than we saw in Qatar because they have enough stadiums to host the games and unlike Qatar, they don't take it hard for the visitors in their country about drinking alcohol which can be a good reason to say people who go America for watching world cup games will have better times there comparing to Qatar.

These are three football playing countries. US and Mexico have even hosted the world cup before. So, there's clearly not going to be any controversies because it's all going to be as expected.

There might be some issues with visas though, specially for the US matches. We'll have to wait and see.

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Quote from: Wakate on April 12, 2023, 02:35:00 PM

Quote from: safari88 on April 12, 2023, 01:14:39 PM

It has been a while since the world championships were organized in America. The Olympic Games have often been organized there, in the continent of North America. But I don't remember World Cup football that way. At least not since 2000, because from that date I started checking some statistics and looked at some information from all the final tournaments. America is a large country, logistically it is quite a job to arrange all this properly. As a player, it is also absolutely not nice to have to travel everywhere. As a player I would not like to stay in Mexico, you often hear stories from the criminal world there, you have to be able to feel safe as a player in an area where you play football.

We are going to see how the world cup is going to be now that it had been taken to the North America for them to host the world cup and I hope to be there to get some chill from the US weather and there environs. American has good weather and good environment whether many of the matches can be taken. I just hoe the coming world cup would be very interesting compared to the one that is just concluded. Since the US is the world power I hope to see them flex there muscle making the next world cup a big success.

Based on the situation in North American countries I can say we are going to see a much better world cup than we saw in Qatar because they have enough stadiums to host the games and unlike Qatar, they don't take it hard for the visitors in their country about drinking alcohol which can be a good reason to say people who go America for watching world cup games will have better times there comparing to Qatar.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 12, 2023, 03:56:15 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 12, 2023, 03:40:00 AM

It's not just about Muslim countries having rules about drinking alcohol and nudity or any other rules, there are some rules in any country and all the visitors should respect these rules in Qatar, I saw many people say they can drink alcohol even in stadiums but they need to spend more money and buys more expensive tickets which is a bad side of the story when some people are allowed to break rules and some other people are not allowed.

It has nothing to do with Qatar being a Muslim country. If you have money, then you can do whatever you want in that country. Beer and other alcoholic drinks were permitted for some of the fans, who had top tier tickets, but two days before the kickoff it was announced that such drinks will be prohibited for the rest. I would rather blame FIFA for this fiasco. It was their responsibility to make sure that fans are being treated well. But then, FIFA didn't uttered a word against Qatar, when they made all these changes to the existing plans.

To be fair over half of the football fans in the world drinks something while watching the game, it may not be good for your health or anything but it's their right to do so and banning that is not acceptable. Telling Europeans and south Americans to not drink? That is a silly thing to do, they literally watch something just so they can have a drink, they literally spend time in the pubs watching games. Hell half of Brits spend their weekends watching a game in pub getting their drink on.

So, to say that it is not allowed just because Qatar wants respect for their culture? That is a low blow, if you want respect for your culture, then respect other cultures as well, you were the one who invited everyone to your nation.

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Quote from: safari88 on April 12, 2023, 01:14:39 PM

It has been a while since the world championships were organized in America. The Olympic Games have often been organized there, in the continent of North America. But I don't remember World Cup football that way. At least not since 2000, because from that date I started checking some statistics and looked at some information from all the final tournaments. America is a large country, logistically it is quite a job to arrange all this properly. As a player, it is also absolutely not nice to have to travel everywhere. As a player I would not like to stay in Mexico, you often hear stories from the criminal world there, you have to be able to feel safe as a player in an area where you play football.

We are going to see how the world cup is going to be now that it had been taken to the North America for them to host the world cup and I hope to be there to get some chill from the US weather and there environs. American has good weather and good environment whether many of the matches can be taken. I just hoe the coming world cup would be very interesting compared to the one that is just concluded. Since the US is the world power I hope to see them flex there muscle making the next world cup a big success.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on April 12, 2023, 01:22:22 PM

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 12, 2023, 12:19:29 PM

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because obviously the European leagues look much more exciting in some clubs and I think that "Magic" will go away.

I don't know about others, but I am finding club football quite boring nowadays. On the other hand, World Cup is where you will find a lot of diversity and representation from all around the world. In simple terms, it is having the same quality as club football (or even better) without the greed for money. And further more, the team bonding and cohesion is much better when compared to league football, as the players are motivated by patriotism and not by money. Even the fans behave well in world cup, when compared to the leagues.

You are right, it's the same way I often feel at times, club football is in our faces all the time, they are one too many that sometimes, we even confuse one for the other, and like we know about commodities, when they become always available and common, it loses its high value, becomes cheap and quite boring..

Club football is pure business, both the club owners and players, they don't play for the patriotism or for the love of football, they play for the money, and this can never be compared to world cup tournament where we see patriotic players play for the love of football and their country, and not for the love of money.

That's the difference between leagues and world cups ,when a team is involved in game via patriotism and are connected with fans of their countries that's a whole new feeling and vibe .
Similarly league football is totally about shallow things the players even are not connected and you can feel the distant behaviour of players even in the game .

Very well said mate, in a team where players come and go, sold and bought, they are all paid salaries based on their supposed worth, it is very possible for them to be disconnected from each other, and some of the emotions that we might not be able to see on screen is the envy and jealousy that is displayed in-house(that is in the background), for where ever money is the sole purpose why people gather, you are sure to find this two emotions there(envy and jealousy)..

The fact remains that, club football, can never be fun and interesting as Fifa world cup tournaments, for reasons that are already obvious, but then, who cares, business must go one and money must be made.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 12, 2023, 12:19:29 PM

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because obviously the European leagues look much more exciting in some clubs and I think that "Magic" will go away.

I don't know about others, but I am finding club football quite boring nowadays. On the other hand, World Cup is where you will find a lot of diversity and representation from all around the world. In simple terms, it is having the same quality as club football (or even better) without the greed for money. And further more, the team bonding and cohesion is much better when compared to league football, as the players are motivated by patriotism and not by money. Even the fans behave well in world cup, when compared to the leagues.

You are right, it's the same way I often feel at times, club football is in our faces all the time, they are one too many that sometimes, we even confuse one for the other, and like we know about commodities, when they become always available and common, it loses its high value, becomes cheap and quite boring..

Club football is pure business, both the club owners and players, they don't play for the patriotism or for the love of football, they play for the money, and this can never be compared to world cup tournament where we see patriotic players play for the love of football and their country, and not for the love of money.

That's the difference between leagues and world cups ,when a team is involved in game via patriotism and are connected with fans of their countries that's a whole new feeling and vibe .
Similarly league football is totally about shallow things the players even are not connected and you can feel the distant behaviour of players even in the game .

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It has been a while since the world championships were organized in America. The Olympic Games have often been organized there, in the continent of North America. But I don't remember World Cup football that way. At least not since 2000, because from that date I started checking some statistics and looked at some information from all the final tournaments. America is a large country, logistically it is quite a job to arrange all this properly. As a player, it is also absolutely not nice to have to travel everywhere. As a player I would not like to stay in Mexico, you often hear stories from the criminal world there, you have to be able to feel safe as a player in an area where you play football.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 12, 2023, 12:40:57 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 12, 2023, 12:19:29 PM

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because obviously the European leagues look much more exciting in some clubs and I think that "Magic" will go away.

I don't know about others, but I am finding club football quite boring nowadays. On the other hand, World Cup is where you will find a lot of diversity and representation from all around the world. In simple terms, it is having the same quality as club football (or even better) without the greed for money. And further more, the team bonding and cohesion is much better when compared to league football, as the players are motivated by patriotism and not by money. Even the fans behave well in world cup, when compared to the leagues.

You are right, it's the same way I often feel at times, club football is in our faces all the time, they are one too many that sometimes, we even confuse one for the other, and like we know about commodities, when they become always available and common, it loses its high value, becomes cheap and quite boring..

Club football is pure business, both the club owners and players, they don't play for the patriotism or for the love of football, they play for the money, and this can never be compared to world cup tournament where we see patriotic players play for the love of football and their country, and not for the love of money.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 12, 2023, 12:19:29 PM

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because obviously the European leagues look much more exciting in some clubs and I think that "Magic" will go away.

I don't know about others, but I am finding club football quite boring nowadays. On the other hand, World Cup is where you will find a lot of diversity and representation from all around the world. In simple terms, it is having the same quality as club football (or even better) without the greed for money. And further more, the team bonding and cohesion is much better when compared to league football, as the players are motivated by patriotism and not by money. Even the fans behave well in world cup, when compared to the leagues.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 28, 2023, 05:58:32 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 27, 2023, 10:11:43 PM

Well, it is known that the soccer World Cup has been held since 1930, this is a great tradition, it is something that must be maintained, no matter what is believed, the exciting thing about all this is that this great event is celebrated every 4 years, I If I want more countries that have never gone to a World Cup to do so in the next one, it's the first time that 3 countries will organize it,it seems perfect to me, it's something new, if Qatar is new, what these 3 countries are doing is something that I like it even more, you know more things and their culture.

If you care so much about tradition, then you may restrict the FIFA Football World Cup to just 13 participants and 3 confederations. Tradition can't be maintained everytime. Situation needs to change according to time. Back in 1930, there were only a few dozen independent nations. Most of the African continent was under the control of colonial powers, so was South and Southeast Asia. In order to maintain the tradition, you need to ask these countries to represent under the flag of their colonial master, which is illogical.

Well, perhaps the word "tradition" can lead one to think many things, and of course, what you say is very valid, but as far as tradition is concerned, I mean that the World Cup is an event that we all know,that everyone strives for. To go, to be there, is something very big, most of the players from the countries that arrive since they were little dream of being there, I call it tradition to wait for 4 years, to see which country or countries are going to develop them, to see what it will be like the performance of the favorite countries, if they will be favorites or disappointment, if in that period of time of the World Cup what things are known, to all that, if those things are changed, I think that many people will not like it, and they will begin to Lose fans,because obviously the European leagues look much more exciting in some clubs and I think that "Magic" will go away.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 12, 2023, 03:40:00 AM

It's not just about Muslim countries having rules about drinking alcohol and nudity or any other rules, there are some rules in any country and all the visitors should respect these rules in Qatar, I saw many people say they can drink alcohol even in stadiums but they need to spend more money and buys more expensive tickets which is a bad side of the story when some people are allowed to break rules and some other people are not allowed.

It has nothing to do with Qatar being a Muslim country. If you have money, then you can do whatever you want in that country. Beer and other alcoholic drinks were permitted for some of the fans, who had top tier tickets, but two days before the kickoff it was announced that such drinks will be prohibited for the rest. I would rather blame FIFA for this fiasco. It was their responsibility to make sure that fans are being treated well. But then, FIFA didn't uttered a word against Qatar, when they made all these changes to the existing plans.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 11, 2023, 02:09:45 PM

It's not about allowing a Muslim country to host the world cup, the most important thing is about the country's rules because even some Musil country they have rules everyone should respect, and doesn't matter if they are hosting a world cup or not whether in other Muslim countries, they will expect the visitors from other countries to do not drink alcohol and they take it hard for them.

Its not about Muslim countries becoming the host in FIFA World Cup but also happening to visitor or tourism need to respect all rule have adopted there, if any one ever visitor to Bali they have their rule for the tourism and they should respect exactly when Seclusion day all activities stopping. Its the same with Qatar become the host World Cup and all fans around the world have respect and adapted with Qatar culture without alcohol drinking and most specific Qatar not allowed with LGBT.

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Quote from: nullama on April 11, 2023, 11:09:57 PM

Ah, that explains why I didn't see people drinking alcohol in the stadium yet read that it was allowed. Only the top tier tickets had access to it. I guess that's how they're used to making things over there, money talks.

Such a shame really, but the world moves on, and now the focus in on the next one.

It's not just about Muslim countries having rules about drinking alcohol and nudity or any other rules, there are some rules in any country and all the visitors should respect these rules in Qatar, I saw many people say they can drink alcohol even in stadiums but they need to spend more money and buys more expensive tickets which is a bad side of the story when some people are allowed to break rules and some other people are not allowed.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 11, 2023, 08:56:26 PM

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The problem with Qatar was that initially they announced that alcohol will be permitted inside the stadium for a limited duration. But then two days before the kickoff, they changed the rule and told that alcohol will be strictly prohibited except for those who hold the most expensive tier tickets. The fans who booked their tickets many weeks ago felt cheated and by then it was too late to cancel their travel plans. Budweiser was one of the sponsors for this event, and they also felt deceived as a result of this new restriction.

Ah, that explains why I didn't see people drinking alcohol in the stadium yet read that it was allowed. Only the top tier tickets had access to it. I guess that's how they're used to making things over there, money talks.

Such a shame really, but the world moves on, and now the focus in on the next one.

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Quote from: nullama on April 11, 2023, 06:34:26 PM

It doesn't even have to be a Muslim country. In Brazil they had laws that prohibited the sale of alcohol inside the stadium, but when FIFA brought the world cup there, they simply changed the law, and sold alcohol in the stadiums.

At the end of the day, money talks.

The problem with Qatar was that initially they announced that alcohol will be permitted inside the stadium for a limited duration. But then two days before the kickoff, they changed the rule and told that alcohol will be strictly prohibited except for those who hold the most expensive tier tickets. The fans who booked their tickets many weeks ago felt cheated and by then it was too late to cancel their travel plans. Budweiser was one of the sponsors for this event, and they also felt deceived as a result of this new restriction.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 11, 2023, 02:09:45 PM

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It's not about allowing a Muslim country to host the world cup, the most important thing is about the country's rules because even some Musil country they have rules everyone should respect, and doesn't matter if they are hosting a world cup or not whether in other Muslim countries, they will expect the visitors from other countries to do not drink alcohol and they take it hard for them.

It doesn't even have to be a Muslim country. In Brazil they had laws that prohibited the sale of alcohol inside the stadium, but when FIFA brought the world cup there, they simply changed the law, and sold alcohol in the stadiums.

At the end of the day, money talks.

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Quote from: Silberman on April 11, 2023, 01:09:00 PM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 11, 2023, 11:13:15 AM

Again I will disagree with this statement that FIFA should not have allowed a Muslim country to host the world cup. We need to understand that there are different religions around the world and everyone should respect each other religion. This is no excuse to deny the opportunity to host a word only on the basis of a certain religion.

Also, please remember that football is a global sport that is played in Muslim and non muslim countries. If Muslim countries are denied to host it, it will only encourage discrimination against them which is not right for the sport itself.

The bad decision was to allow a country which clearly bribed their way to win the rights to host the world cup to keep that right, as it is obvious that since they were willing to do such a thing then they will no doubt change the rules once they had the rights to host the world cup, a thing they did and which left FIFA as nothing more but a joke, so I think from now on FIFA will be way more careful about the selection to host the cup as I doubt they will want for such a thing to repeat once again.

It's not about allowing a Muslim country to host the world cup, the most important thing is about the country's rules because even some Musil country they have rules everyone should respect, and doesn't matter if they are hosting a world cup or not whether in other Muslim countries, they will expect the visitors from other countries to do not drink alcohol and they take it hard for them.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 11, 2023, 11:13:15 AM

Again I will disagree with this statement that FIFA should not have allowed a Muslim country to host the world cup. We need to understand that there are different religions around the world and everyone should respect each other religion. This is no excuse to deny the opportunity to host a word only on the basis of a certain religion.

Also, please remember that football is a global sport that is played in Muslim and non muslim countries. If Muslim countries are denied to host it, it will only encourage discrimination against them which is not right for the sport itself.

The bad decision was to allow a country which clearly bribed their way to win the rights to host the world cup to keep that right, as it is obvious that since they were willing to do such a thing then they will no doubt change the rules once they had the rights to host the world cup, a thing they did and which left FIFA as nothing more but a joke, so I think from now on FIFA will be way more careful about the selection to host the cup as I doubt they will want for such a thing to repeat once again.

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