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With the passage of time and use of technology things have become more clear and a little bit flexible as each and everything is recorded and counted as in extra time,  which is given in every match to cover the wasted time by players .
Same is with VAR which is a very good step by fifa for more fair results .

Maybe, but the fact that the play is stopped so often now and the fact that the games are extended so much, makes it a bit of a different game these days.

You could tell players were exhausted in the first few matches that got extended too much. They were prepared for half times of up to 50 minutes, but they ended up playing half times of more than an hour each.

These changes are transforming the game, and it's turning it a bit more into something like American Football, where there are multiple stops.
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I also remember the great Brazilian generation from the 1982 World Cup led by Zico, Socrates, Falcao... they were really football artists and not football players.
We were all convinced that they would be world champions in 1982, but then they unexpectedly lost to Italy.
It was shown that ''dying in beauty'' is not enough for success, but that you need to play solid and organized football and especially be strong in defense.
The generation of Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo... was at its peak in 1998-2002 and I don't understand how they lost the final in 1998.
Such players appear once in a generation and it is obvious that today Brazil does not have such players and team anymore.
Yes, exactly, you are correct!
Some players think they are gods and that they are indestructible!

And that's the worst thought a player can have is, "thinking he's indestructible"!
They are still human and make mistakes, he's not perfect

I believe that every football "ERA" had a player like that, for example Brazil, they had great chances of being champions in 1982, and that didn't happen, the same happened in 1998, but they lost to France, Brazil was champion in 2002 and I had no doubt that they would be champions again in 2006, but that didn't happen.
By the way, I had no doubts that the 2006 Brazil team was excellent, I even dare to say that it could be better than the 1998 or 2002 team.

Some players from Brazil have already made these mistakes, when they were younger, over time they gained experience and realized that things don't work as they imagined... an example I can cite was Neymar, he is an excellent player, but he could have been even better if he had a different "mindset" when he was younger

Yes, every era has its champions and stars.
The Brazilian national team played the most beautiful football at the 1982 World Cup, but it was not enough.
The most beautiful football does not necessarily mean the best and most efficient, and we have been able to convince ourselves of this many times so far.
At the 1994 World Cup, Brazil played almost like Italy and that helped them to win and become world champions in a very ugly and boring game in the final.
To win the world cup, you need to know how to play effectively and for the result, without entertaining the fans and dying in beauty.
Hmm, analyzing your point of view, I also agree with what you said.
Having a beautiful football game is different from having effective football.
I don't have much memory of the Brazilian team from the 1982 world cup, most of the time Brazil always had a beautiful football game, maybe not always effective, but one of the games and mainly one of the teams I watched which was one of the most effective was the Germany team in the World Cup in 2014, they had a good team, but extremely effective, which was the world cup champion in 2014.
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in past years the world cup games were much nicer, there was more publicity before the event and many people could watch the games on tv, but in recent years fifa has become like an organization of mercenaries, for example in this world cup world when there were argentina games and brazil games against other teams in my country we didn't watch them even though we paid to watch the games, everyone had to pay more money to be able to watch argentina and brazil games against other teams

this started in recent years, honestly it is deplorable this type of thing, another issue is the number of teams from africa that have participated in the world cup, and a very small number, now they want to increase it to 9 teams, something good but that could be at least 1 teams. fifa needs to review the countries that organize the world cup well, it seems that it has become a tendency to choose strange and problematic countries
Qatar has shown their potential in the 2022 FIFA World Cup. It has been the best World Cup in history so far. You hope that the 2026 World Cup will write more chapters in history than this World Cup.
thats correct - Qatar needs a huge appreciation for doing such an amazing work
The world cup in three counties will be comparison only. I should be one country - but let;s see what amazing stuff it brings to the world.

A great deal has been done and written in the context of Qatar, and by that I mean, of course, all human rights and the organizations that have conducted research. If you look purely at the organizational part, Qatar has arranged it very well and I have also heard several players say that this was the best organized World Cup ever so far. But yes, Qatar is also one of the richest countries in the world, so you can expect something from that if you put it on the scales that way, of course. I think it will be difficult to organize the World Cup in 2026 so well, but they have a few years and it will be divided among different countries, logistically it will be difficult because of the great distances.
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I also remember the great Brazilian generation from the 1982 World Cup led by Zico, Socrates, Falcao... they were really football artists and not football players.
We were all convinced that they would be world champions in 1982, but then they unexpectedly lost to Italy.
It was shown that ''dying in beauty'' is not enough for success, but that you need to play solid and organized football and especially be strong in defense.
The generation of Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo... was at its peak in 1998-2002 and I don't understand how they lost the final in 1998.
Such players appear once in a generation and it is obvious that today Brazil does not have such players and team anymore.
Yes, exactly, you are correct!
Some players think they are gods and that they are indestructible!

And that's the worst thought a player can have is, "thinking he's indestructible"!
They are still human and make mistakes, he's not perfect

I believe that every football "ERA" had a player like that, for example Brazil, they had great chances of being champions in 1982, and that didn't happen, the same happened in 1998, but they lost to France, Brazil was champion in 2002 and I had no doubt that they would be champions again in 2006, but that didn't happen.
By the way, I had no doubts that the 2006 Brazil team was excellent, I even dare to say that it could be better than the 1998 or 2002 team.

Some players from Brazil have already made these mistakes, when they were younger, over time they gained experience and realized that things don't work as they imagined... an example I can cite was Neymar, he is an excellent player, but he could have been even better if he had a different "mindset" when he was younger

Yes, every era has its champions and stars.
The Brazilian national team played the most beautiful football at the 1982 World Cup, but it was not enough.
The most beautiful football does not necessarily mean the best and most efficient, and we have been able to convince ourselves of this many times so far.
At the 1994 World Cup, Brazil played almost like Italy and that helped them to win and become world champions in a very ugly and boring game in the final.
To win the world cup, you need to know how to play effectively and for the result, without entertaining the fans and dying in beauty.

Well, for that year I had not yet been born, but for the year 1994 I did see that World Cup, they cannot deny it, I was going to Brazil, at that moment Romario and Bebeto were there and the sensation in the goal was the incredible goalkeeper Taffarel, for It was like a wall in the way I covered, I can't deny that at that time I still remember Roberto Baggio and his elegant way of playing, at that time even though I was going to Brazil, I started to admire the Italian team a lot, because I liked his style, in fact at that time I was 10 years old, and I wanted to play like the Brazilians with their dribbling and with the style of the Italians, that final was hard, and I think Baggio always remembers that final for having peeled that penalty.
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in past years the world cup games were much nicer, there was more publicity before the event and many people could watch the games on tv, but in recent years fifa has become like an organization of mercenaries, for example in this world cup world when there were argentina games and brazil games against other teams in my country we didn't watch them even though we paid to watch the games, everyone had to pay more money to be able to watch argentina and brazil games against other teams

this started in recent years, honestly it is deplorable this type of thing, another issue is the number of teams from africa that have participated in the world cup, and a very small number, now they want to increase it to 9 teams, something good but that could be at least 1 teams. fifa needs to review the countries that organize the world cup well, it seems that it has become a tendency to choose strange and problematic countries
Qatar has shown their potential in the 2022 FIFA World Cup. It has been the best World Cup in history so far. You hope that the 2026 World Cup will write more chapters in history than this World Cup.
thats correct - Qatar needs a huge appreciation for doing such an amazing work
The world cup in three counties will be comparison only. I should be one country - but let;s see what amazing stuff it brings to the world.
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in past years the world cup games were much nicer, there was more publicity before the event and many people could watch the games on tv, but in recent years fifa has become like an organization of mercenaries, for example in this world cup world when there were argentina games and brazil games against other teams in my country we didn't watch them even though we paid to watch the games, everyone had to pay more money to be able to watch argentina and brazil games against other teams

this started in recent years, honestly it is deplorable this type of thing, another issue is the number of teams from africa that have participated in the world cup, and a very small number, now they want to increase it to 9 teams, something good but that could be at least 1 teams. fifa needs to review the countries that organize the world cup well, it seems that it has become a tendency to choose strange and problematic countries
Qatar has shown their potential in the 2022 FIFA World Cup. It has been the best World Cup in history so far. You hope that the 2026 World Cup will write more chapters in history than this World Cup.

Now Saudi want to have the same - that is one of the reason they would be bidding for the next world cup
Qatar did amazing job despite of the fact they have been criticised a lot by the other nations.
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in past years the world cup games were much nicer, there was more publicity before the event and many people could watch the games on tv, but in recent years fifa has become like an organization of mercenaries, for example in this world cup world when there were argentina games and brazil games against other teams in my country we didn't watch them even though we paid to watch the games, everyone had to pay more money to be able to watch argentina and brazil games against other teams

this started in recent years, honestly it is deplorable this type of thing, another issue is the number of teams from africa that have participated in the world cup, and a very small number, now they want to increase it to 9 teams, something good but that could be at least 1 teams. fifa needs to review the countries that organize the world cup well, it seems that it has become a tendency to choose strange and problematic countries
Qatar has shown their potential in the 2022 FIFA World Cup. It has been the best World Cup in history so far. You hope that the 2026 World Cup will write more chapters in history than this World Cup.
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in past years the world cup games were much nicer, there was more publicity before the event and many people could watch the games on tv, but in recent years fifa has become like an organization of mercenaries, for example in this world cup world when there were argentina games and brazil games against other teams in my country we didn't watch them even though we paid to watch the games, everyone had to pay more money to be able to watch argentina and brazil games against other teams

this started in recent years, honestly it is deplorable this type of thing, another issue is the number of teams from africa that have participated in the world cup, and a very small number, now they want to increase it to 9 teams, something good but that could be at least 1 teams. fifa needs to review the countries that organize the world cup well, it seems that it has become a tendency to choose strange and problematic countries
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I also remember the great Brazilian generation from the 1982 World Cup led by Zico, Socrates, Falcao... they were really football artists and not football players.
We were all convinced that they would be world champions in 1982, but then they unexpectedly lost to Italy.
It was shown that ''dying in beauty'' is not enough for success, but that you need to play solid and organized football and especially be strong in defense.
The generation of Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo... was at its peak in 1998-2002 and I don't understand how they lost the final in 1998.
Such players appear once in a generation and it is obvious that today Brazil does not have such players and team anymore.
Yes, exactly, you are correct!
Some players think they are gods and that they are indestructible!

And that's the worst thought a player can have is, "thinking he's indestructible"!
They are still human and make mistakes, he's not perfect

I believe that every football "ERA" had a player like that, for example Brazil, they had great chances of being champions in 1982, and that didn't happen, the same happened in 1998, but they lost to France, Brazil was champion in 2002 and I had no doubt that they would be champions again in 2006, but that didn't happen.
By the way, I had no doubts that the 2006 Brazil team was excellent, I even dare to say that it could be better than the 1998 or 2002 team.

Some players from Brazil have already made these mistakes, when they were younger, over time they gained experience and realized that things don't work as they imagined... an example I can cite was Neymar, he is an excellent player, but he could have been even better if he had a different "mindset" when he was younger

Yes, every era has its champions and stars.
The Brazilian national team played the most beautiful football at the 1982 World Cup, but it was not enough.
The most beautiful football does not necessarily mean the best and most efficient, and we have been able to convince ourselves of this many times so far.
At the 1994 World Cup, Brazil played almost like Italy and that helped them to win and become world champions in a very ugly and boring game in the final.
To win the world cup, you need to know how to play effectively and for the result, without entertaining the fans and dying in beauty.
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Yes, I'm as well guilty about that as I can't help myself but to reminisce about how great Brazil was in the past and they are the ones who I frequently see winning and taking home the championship. I guess that also mean that we're quite old already too because somehow that was back in the early 2000s Grin

But let's just be happy for what happened as time goes by because whether we like or not, every sports including football will always evolve in almost every decade. But still, Brazil was also a slight favorite in the recent World Cup, they aren't that much forgotten as they always produced talented players in their nation.

Yes, football has changed quite a lot. Specially in the last world cup.

Having now 5 substitutes(plus one for head injury) is very different than only 3. And the extra time was just insane. They were adding so much time that it was almost a different type of game altogether.

I remember back in the days the extra time was never more than 5 minutes. In this world cup I think one time they played more than 15 minutes extra time... that's insane as that's more than a third of the official time (45 minutes).

Also the introduction of VAR some year ago, but now used everywhere. It's a bit too much to stop almost every play.

With the passage of time and use of technology things have become more clear and a little bit flexible as each and everything is recorded and counted as in extra time,  which is given in every match to cover the wasted time by players .
Same is with VAR which is a very good step by fifa for more fair results .
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The generation of Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo... was at its peak in 1998-2002 and I don't understand how they lost the final in 1998.
Such players appear once in a generation and it is obvious that today Brazil does not have such players and team anymore.
Ronaldinho did not start playing for the national team in 1998, Ronaldo was having some sort of injury coming into the world cup and he was not playing that well in the entire tournament and the entire tournament was ruled by Zinedine Zidane who single handedly took France to the finals and ultimately the cup.

In 2002, Brazil had the perfect mix of players including Ronaldinho making his World Cup debut, Ronaldo and Rivaldo in great form and their defenders included Roberto Carlos and Cafu and thereby they won the World Cup that year.
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Yes, I'm as well guilty about that as I can't help myself but to reminisce about how great Brazil was in the past and they are the ones who I frequently see winning and taking home the championship. I guess that also mean that we're quite old already too because somehow that was back in the early 2000s Grin

But let's just be happy for what happened as time goes by because whether we like or not, every sports including football will always evolve in almost every decade. But still, Brazil was also a slight favorite in the recent World Cup, they aren't that much forgotten as they always produced talented players in their nation.

Yes, football has changed quite a lot. Specially in the last world cup.

Having now 5 substitutes(plus one for head injury) is very different than only 3. And the extra time was just insane. They were adding so much time that it was almost a different type of game altogether.

I remember back in the days the extra time was never more than 5 minutes. In this world cup I think one time they played more than 15 minutes extra time... that's insane as that's more than a third of the official time (45 minutes).

Also the introduction of VAR some year ago, but now used everywhere. It's a bit too much to stop almost every play.
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I also remember the great Brazilian generation from the 1982 World Cup led by Zico, Socrates, Falcao... they were really football artists and not football players.
We were all convinced that they would be world champions in 1982, but then they unexpectedly lost to Italy.
It was shown that ''dying in beauty'' is not enough for success, but that you need to play solid and organized football and especially be strong in defense.
The generation of Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo... was at its peak in 1998-2002 and I don't understand how they lost the final in 1998.
Such players appear once in a generation and it is obvious that today Brazil does not have such players and team anymore.
Yes, exactly, you are correct!
Some players think they are gods and that they are indestructible!

And that's the worst thought a player can have is, "thinking he's indestructible"!
They are still human and make mistakes, he's not perfect

I believe that every football "ERA" had a player like that, for example Brazil, they had great chances of being champions in 1982, and that didn't happen, the same happened in 1998, but they lost to France, Brazil was champion in 2002 and I had no doubt that they would be champions again in 2006, but that didn't happen.
By the way, I had no doubts that the 2006 Brazil team was excellent, I even dare to say that it could be better than the 1998 or 2002 team.

Some players from Brazil have already made these mistakes, when they were younger, over time they gained experience and realized that things don't work as they imagined... an example I can cite was Neymar, he is an excellent player, but he could have been even better if he had a different "mindset" when he was younger
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Surely we all know about Brazilian quality but right now things are not working for them with last time they won in 2002 after this they are facing humiliations as well and their player's coordination is also now biggest problem for them with quality is still amazing and talent is also unanimous with this all now if Brazilian Soccer Federation wants to have better results then surely they can bring this rule even just for experiment and hire any coach from European Union for the next four years and then check the change because most chance they will be improved and having better changes which will help them for having another good time in soccer for their country.

I mean, Brazil is the only team in the world that has qualified to every single World Cup in history.

Also, they have won it five times, the current record.

Plus, they are at number one in the FIFA ranking today.

Yeah, I think they'll manage  Grin
Honestly, I would like to see Brazil be champions once again in a world cup.
But I don't know if that will happen.
Football around the world has evolved a lot
You guys just reminded me of the Old days, back in my childhood days, Brazil was the best country in terms of football, they were the ones that were always taking the world cup home year after year.
But today. Alot have changed really, many countries now have alot of good players that have helped leveled the playing ground.

And also, why exactly should I wish Brazil to win the world cup again if I'm not a Brazilian?  Grin
I wish my country win the world cup, but if any other country wins, no big deal.

Yes, I'm as well guilty about that as I can't help myself but to reminisce about how great Brazil was in the past and they are the ones who I frequently see winning and taking home the championship. I guess that also mean that we're quite old already too because somehow that was back in the early 2000s Grin

But let's just be happy for what happened as time goes by because whether we like or not, every sports including football will always evolve in almost every decade. But still, Brazil was also a slight favorite in the recent World Cup, they aren't that much forgotten as they always produced talented players in their nation.
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Brazil is a very strong team. But luck did not help them in the 2022 World Cup. Still the team's players played the wrong game due to which they did not do well in the World Cup. But the 2026 World Cup Brazil team will prove themselves in a big way how strong they are.

Luck is another matter of a game.

Brazil's failure at the Qatar world cup was purely Tite's fault as Brazil coach. in the 2022 world cup, Brazil has many talented players. sadly, Tite didn't have a good system. plus, the wrong choice of several players that he put on his squad. Tite should have brought in some more experienced players, also in form and one of them was Firmino "that time". also, Tite lacks discipline in his players.

In modern football, a team does not only rely on individual skills. but also, requires a good system. sadly, Tite didn't have that. next, Brazil must choose a coach who really has high intelligence, as well as a good game system. if Brazil has a good coach, of course it will be very profitable in the 2026 world cup. because, apart from having talented players and individual skills, Brazil also has a modern playing style system.
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I mean, Brazil is the only team in the world that has qualified to every single World Cup in history.

Also, they have won it five times, the current record.

Plus, they are at number one in the FIFA ranking today.

Yeah, I think they'll manage  Grin
That's an extraordinary statistic that even other countries that have won the world cup have also not qualified for qualification, such as Italy at the World Cup Qatar, which did not play. Brazil has always been able to qualify for the World Cup are the fact as well as the individual quality of the players no need to be doubted and being one of the countries with a lot of good player material and that has prevented many other players from finally being able to enter the team list core at the last World Cup
I think Brazil is just blessed when it comes to football,  their record in football is just different from other teams.   Their has been no time that Brazil performance in any world cup  been poor.  In the next world cup I know Brazil will do better than what they had in the last world cup.
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Nice of USA to share but isnt it slightly ironic the Mexico is by far the most popular soccer/fútbol  playing nation out of the three but only will do 12% of the total.    I just wonder on the thinking behind not doing an equal split, maybe it suits all three countries just fine as USA is by far the most capable of hosting any sporting event; however in terms of audience and attendance it looks funny.    USA are advancing in this sport alot I think so in a few years time I might be completely wrong to worry about it at all.
The split looks fair to me. Mexico maybe having more football fans when compared to the United States, but the facilities are much better in the US (not denying the fact that Estadio Azteca has the maximum capacity out of all the venues). Also, Mexico has limited matches to three of the cities due to safety concerns - Guadalajara, Mexico City and Monterrey, while the US will be hosting the tournament in 11 venues. Most of the heavy lifting (in terms of financials) is being done by the United States and therefore it makes sense if they host the vast majority of the matches.


I think this wasn't even really about mexico or canada, it was basically USA wanting to get it, and they realized they needed to get the other two in order to be accepted. Otherwise, why would you have a world cup in USA where football is not that big? It is becoming increasingly big, look at women football there, they are by far the best right now, and men are getting much better as well each year.

However, they are still not as football oriented as Mexico for example, or anywhere close to latin america/europe levels, not even africa levels, would say they are somewhere fighting with asia I guess. This is why they took on the other two, to appeal to football world a lot more and get accepted.
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You guys just reminded me of the Old days, back in my childhood days, Brazil was the best country in terms of football, they were the ones that were always taking the world cup home year after year.
But today. Alot have changed really, many countries now have alot of good players that have helped leveled the playing group.

And also, why exactly should I wish Brazil to win the world cup again if I'm not a Brazilian?  Grin
I wish my country win the world cup, but if any other country wins, no big deal.
Unfortunately I didn't see Pelé, Garrincha, Romario, Rivellino, Zico and other Brazilian players from the past playing.

But I witnessed the 2002/2006 team playing, with all my respect, but this team scared the whole world, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Cafu, Kaka, R. Carlos and others, it was literally beautiful to see them playing, the chemistry , the passes and kicks, it was something surreal...
I believe that unfortunately it will take time for Brazil to have a national team like the one from 2002/2006 again  Undecided Sad

I also remember the great Brazilian generation from the 1982 World Cup led by Zico, Socrates, Falcao... they were really football artists and not football players.
We were all convinced that they would be world champions in 1982, but then they unexpectedly lost to Italy.
It was shown that ''dying in beauty'' is not enough for success, but that you need to play solid and organized football and especially be strong in defense.
The generation of Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo... was at its peak in 1998-2002 and I don't understand how they lost the final in 1998.
Such players appear once in a generation and it is obvious that today Brazil does not have such players and team anymore.

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Nice of USA to share but isnt it slightly ironic the Mexico is by far the most popular soccer/fútbol  playing nation out of the three but only will do 12% of the total.    I just wonder on the thinking behind not doing an equal split, maybe it suits all three countries just fine as USA is by far the most capable of hosting any sporting event; however in terms of audience and attendance it looks funny.    USA are advancing in this sport alot I think so in a few years time I might be completely wrong to worry about it at all.

The split looks fair to me. Mexico maybe having more football fans when compared to the United States, but the facilities are much better in the US (not denying the fact that Estadio Azteca has the maximum capacity out of all the venues). Also, Mexico has limited matches to three of the cities due to safety concerns - Guadalajara, Mexico City and Monterrey, while the US will be hosting the tournament in 11 venues. Most of the heavy lifting (in terms of financials) is being done by the United States and therefore it makes sense if they host the vast majority of the matches.

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Canada and Mexico will host 10 matches each.

Nice of USA to share but isnt it slightly ironic the Mexico is by far the most popular soccer/fútbol  playing nation out of the three but only will do 12% of the total.    I just wonder on the thinking behind not doing an equal split, maybe it suits all three countries just fine as USA is by far the most capable of hosting any sporting event; however in terms of audience and attendance it looks funny.    USA are advancing in this sport alot I think so in a few years time I might be completely wrong to worry about it at all.


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back in my childhood days, Brazil was the best country in terms of football,

Still are some would say though I'm glad for Messi he got his dream win.

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Messi also said Argentina “in general were better than our rivals” and picked Mexico, its second group opponent as “the toughest”.
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