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Yes, I also believe that the number of participants can affect the quality of the world cup, not to the detriment of other teams, but unfortunately if a country has not participated in previous world cups, it means that it has neither the capacity nor the quality to be a eligible team to participate in the world cup.

I imagine that the main reason the world cup is such a rare and prestigious event is because it takes place every 4 years.

I don't agree. According to the most probable system, the teams that qualify for the knock out stages will play one additional match only, while they could face weaker teams in the group stages. Therefore, their performance won't change a lot in my opinion. On the other hand, increasing the number will give more opportunities for the theoretically weak teams and their fans to appear in the World Cup. However, the decision to increase the number of participants was taken for pure financial reasons.

More teams in the World Cup means more matches and of course more money, but that does not mean that we will see a better competition.
In fact, we will see more boring and bad matches that will not be attractive for TV and fans.
The World Cup should be an exclusive competition in which only the best national teams from all continents can participate, not a competition in which practically every national team in the world can participate.
I think that the increase in the number of national teams at the World Cup was due to another reason, which is that it would be easier for the president and the leadership of FIFA to get support for another term in FIFA.
In the end, it always comes down to politics and money  Grin
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Yes, I also believe that the number of participants can affect the quality of the world cup, not to the detriment of other teams, but unfortunately if a country has not participated in previous world cups, it means that it has neither the capacity nor the quality to be a eligible team to participate in the world cup.

I imagine that the main reason the world cup is such a rare and prestigious event is because it takes place every 4 years.

I don't agree. According to the most probable system, the teams that qualify for the knock out stages will play one additional match only, while they could face weaker teams in the group stages. Therefore, their performance won't change a lot in my opinion. On the other hand, increasing the number will give more opportunities for the theoretically weak teams and their fans to appear in the World Cup. However, the decision to increase the number of participants was taken for pure financial reasons.
Yes, i agree with you! I have no doubt that this change in the next World Cup has financial vision as one of the main objectives, because consequently the country that will host the World Cup will receive many tourists from all over the world, this will help the economy and in a way directly or even indirectly a greater investment in football.

Talking about the system of the next world cup, to be honest, it hasn't been released yet, so we don't have a concrete answer regarding that. I believe the system will be released later this year.
What was commented is that it could have 16 groups with 3 teams or 12 groups with 4 teams.
If we use that example, we would have 80 games.

If we follow the analogy I said just above, each team will not play an additional game but one less game in the group stage (compared to the old system of previous world cups), because this will compensate the additional stage.
And as incredible as it may seem, the world cup in this new format, if memory serves me correctly, could be held in 32 days.

ps: by the way, my superficial knowledge about this topic is, there will be a great chance that we will have 12 groups with 4 teams each in the next world cup.
The authorities have already started thinking about the next football World Cup. Since the next World Cup will be held in several countries, it is understood that the 2026 World Cup will be more spectacular.
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Yes, I also believe that the number of participants can affect the quality of the world cup, not to the detriment of other teams, but unfortunately if a country has not participated in previous world cups, it means that it has neither the capacity nor the quality to be a eligible team to participate in the world cup.

I imagine that the main reason the world cup is such a rare and prestigious event is because it takes place every 4 years.

I don't agree. According to the most probable system, the teams that qualify for the knock out stages will play one additional match only, while they could face weaker teams in the group stages. Therefore, their performance won't change a lot in my opinion. On the other hand, increasing the number will give more opportunities for the theoretically weak teams and their fans to appear in the World Cup. However, the decision to increase the number of participants was taken for pure financial reasons.
Yes, i agree with you! I have no doubt that this change in the next World Cup has financial vision as one of the main objectives, because consequently the country that will host the World Cup will receive many tourists from all over the world, this will help the economy and in a way directly or even indirectly a greater investment in football.

Talking about the system of the next world cup, to be honest, it hasn't been released yet, so we don't have a concrete answer regarding that. I believe the system will be released later this year.
What was commented is that it could have 16 groups with 3 teams or 12 groups with 4 teams.
If we use that example, we would have 80 games.

If we follow the analogy I said just above, each team will not play an additional game but one less game in the group stage (compared to the old system of previous world cups), because this will compensate the additional stage.
And as incredible as it may seem, the world cup in this new format, if memory serves me correctly, could be held in 32 days.

ps: by the way, my superficial knowledge about this topic is, there will be a great chance that we will have 12 groups with 4 teams each in the next world cup.
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Some news here guys:

USA will host 2024 Copa America
Source: https://www.inquirer.com/soccer/usmnt-copa-america-2024-united-states-20230127.html

The championship will have all teams of Conmebol = 10 + 6 teams of Concacaf = Total 16 teams

Why I'm posting this?
I think it's a great warm up to USA, having a small championship to be more prepared to 2026.
It's a good thing for the team too, because they will compete with south american teams, it's a good way to be more prepared and play with better teams like Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay.

The favorite teams to bet are Argentina and Brazil hehehe, not hard to predict and win some money.  Cheesy


Since the 2022 World Cup we were able to see a big number of unexpected match results. As mentioned it gives good opportunity to practice as well as know about football and the venues in which different the teams playing prior to the World Cup. It is too early to have a connect with the World Cup, but having a warm-up every evening makes every match interesting.
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That's right Arabs have really strict working conditions and sometimes that becomes difficult for a human to endure that's the reason for human life loss before world cup 2022 in Qatar.  
USA and Canada will organise world cup with much better facilities as they have organised before , Qatar had to develop everything from scratch that's the reason for high expense in 2022 world cup .
Whether they had to develop things or not just have it in mind that the world cup that was held there was one of the best and the most interesting world cup ever. Could you have imagine that Messi with his Argentina team would win the world cup? This is why the Arabs are very unique in the way they do things even though they do not allows some of the things that are been done in the west.
They are very cultured and strict with there doctrines that made some persons to castigate them because they never allowed the use of alcohol and other undecent dressing of any sought that could portray unfamiliar feelings.
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Yes, I also believe that the number of participants can affect the quality of the world cup, not to the detriment of other teams, but unfortunately if a country has not participated in previous world cups, it means that it has neither the capacity nor the quality to be a eligible team to participate in the world cup.

I imagine that the main reason the world cup is such a rare and prestigious event is because it takes place every 4 years.

I don't agree. According to the most probable system, the teams that qualify for the knock out stages will play one additional match only, while they could face weaker teams in the group stages. Therefore, their performance won't change a lot in my opinion. On the other hand, increasing the number will give more opportunities for the theoretically weak teams and their fans to appear in the World Cup. However, the decision to increase the number of participants was taken for pure financial reasons.

You're right it was purely financial not for competitive reasons.  It's like adding new teams to a particular league.  It dilutes the competition and quality.  Same amount of possible players spread over more teams in this case countries on the lower end of talent.  If you can't qualify that should just be it, you don't qualify.
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Yes, I also believe that the number of participants can affect the quality of the world cup, not to the detriment of other teams, but unfortunately if a country has not participated in previous world cups, it means that it has neither the capacity nor the quality to be a eligible team to participate in the world cup.

I imagine that the main reason the world cup is such a rare and prestigious event is because it takes place every 4 years.

I don't agree. According to the most probable system, the teams that qualify for the knock out stages will play one additional match only, while they could face weaker teams in the group stages. Therefore, their performance won't change a lot in my opinion. On the other hand, increasing the number will give more opportunities for the theoretically weak teams and their fans to appear in the World Cup. However, the decision to increase the number of participants was taken for pure financial reasons.
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But on the other hand, if there is a greater insertion of teams, I believe that this will reduce the quality of the world cup, I am not discrediting the teams, but I do not know, this could reduce the level and quality of the world cup.

The world cup only happens every 4 years, and I have no doubt, this is one of the most anticipated events for many people.

When more teams are added to the World Cup, the quality of the World Cup may be affected. Football's biggest event, held every four years, has different views from around the world. Therefore, FIFA will not take any decision that brings FIFA into disrepute. They have already decided to include 48 countries from next season. I think it's a good decision because a lot of teams, especially multiple champions ‍some times can't play there, so it's definitely a good decision. But more than 48 will do more harm than good.
Yes, I also believe that the number of participants can affect the quality of the world cup, not to the detriment of other teams, but unfortunately if a country has not participated in previous world cups, it means that it has neither the capacity nor the quality to be a eligible team to participate in the world cup.

I imagine that the main reason the world cup is such a rare and prestigious event is because it takes place every 4 years.
This World Cup has been the best in history. All football fans will remember this World Cup. But the next World Cup will be even more spectacular, as several countries will host it. Everything is updated as the day progresses. I hope people will see new surprises in the next World Cup.
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Some news here guys:

USA will host 2024 Copa America
Source: https://www.inquirer.com/soccer/usmnt-copa-america-2024-united-states-20230127.html

The championship will have all teams of Conmebol = 10 + 6 teams of Concacaf = Total 16 teams

Why I'm posting this?
I think it's a great warm up to USA, having a small championship to be more prepared to 2026.
It's a good thing for the team too, because they will compete with south american teams, it's a good way to be more prepared and play with better teams like Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay.

The favorite teams to bet are Argentina and Brazil hehehe, not hard to predict and win some money.  Cheesy

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But on the other hand, if there is a greater insertion of teams, I believe that this will reduce the quality of the world cup, I am not discrediting the teams, but I do not know, this could reduce the level and quality of the world cup.

The world cup only happens every 4 years, and I have no doubt, this is one of the most anticipated events for many people.

When more teams are added to the World Cup, the quality of the World Cup may be affected. Football's biggest event, held every four years, has different views from around the world. Therefore, FIFA will not take any decision that brings FIFA into disrepute. They have already decided to include 48 countries from next season. I think it's a good decision because a lot of teams, especially multiple champions ‍some times can't play there, so it's definitely a good decision. But more than 48 will do more harm than good.
Yes, I also believe that the number of participants can affect the quality of the world cup, not to the detriment of other teams, but unfortunately if a country has not participated in previous world cups, it means that it has neither the capacity nor the quality to be a eligible team to participate in the world cup.

I imagine that the main reason the world cup is such a rare and prestigious event is because it takes place every 4 years.
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That's right Arabs have really strict working conditions and sometimes that becomes difficult for a human to endure that's the reason for human life loss before world cup 2022 in Qatar.  
USA and Canada will organise world cup with much better facilities as they have organised before , Qatar had to develop everything from scratch that's the reason for high expense in 2022 world cup .
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Agree with you when I said about improvement, I look more closely at the improvement of the United States national team in its participation in the World Cup and re-appointing the United States as the host of the World Cup will probably allow them to appear even further when in 2026 it is not impossible to achieve that better than 2022.

But regarding this revenue comparison is really beyond my thoughts because the NFL is very dominant compared to the EPL or other leagues that I think are watched more throughout the world than American football.

As I said yesterday, it's not easy to compare sports in the USA and sports in Europe. People in the USA consider sports like some kind of a show while in Europe we consider sport as a real competition. I'm not saying that Americans don't cheer for their clubs, but for them the show is more important than the sport itself. And it is precisely this show that allows the American teams to earn much more money through side activities.
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I couldn't find any long term improvement for the United States, that came from the 1994 World Cup. Huge amounts of funds have been spent in popularizing football in that country, but the Major League Soccer (MLS) lags other sports such as NBA, NHL, NFL and MLB in terms of popularity and participation. Now awarding them the 2026 world cup is another attempt to popularize football within that country. What makes them think that the same strategy, that didn't worked well in 1994 will work this time around?

In my opinion there's a lot of improvement after 1994
1954 to 1986 they did not qualify for World Cup, but after that they only missed 2018 in Russia
Agree with you when I said about improvement, I look more closely at the improvement of the United States national team in its participation in the World Cup and re-appointing the United States as the host of the World Cup will probably allow them to appear even further when in 2026 it is not impossible to achieve that better than 2022.

But regarding this revenue comparison is really beyond my thoughts because the NFL is very dominant compared to the EPL or other leagues that I think are watched more throughout the world than American football.
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And don't forget the next World Cup will hosted by three separate countries, so expect that there will some games that will be played simultaneously.

Yes, it's not hard to do more games simultaneously, USA alone is a huge country, with great infrastructure to travel, Canada and Mexico will host only 10 matches each one, but it will help, so it's not a impossible task.

Yes, I just found out that the USA will host most of the games especially the qualifiers onwards, 40 games to be exact and it's quite reasonable because they got bigger stadiums that can cater hundreds of thousands of people at once. The FIFA won't let the players get exhausted for travelling in and out towards other countries especially when the games are getting more intense.
I also think the reason why USA will be hosting most of the games in the 2026 world-cup tournament is because they are the main host, Mexico and casino are just an assist if am permitted to put it that way.
If for example, FIFA went with their previous style of one country hosting the entire world cup for the season, I believe it is the turn of the USA, so this is why FIFA has to focus more on USA and make sure most of the games are played there, like I said before, Mexico and Canada are just like an assist, they are just assisting.
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And after 1994 you can see a consistency in the United States, they are always trying to improve, always having a competitive team.
You also have to consider that MLS is always trying to attract good players and having more audience, but it is very hard to compete with Europe.

Well... MLS doesn't need to compete with the European leagues. Even leagues such as EPL and Serie A are not that popular within the States. MLS need to compete with other sports leagues within US-Canada, such as NFL, NBA and MLB. And as of now, they are in a pathetic condition. Check my previous posts. MLS revenues are around 3% of those from the NFL. Despite the infusion of several star players (remember David Beckham signing a $50 million per year contract with the Los Angeles Galaxy?), MLS has failed to attract any interest within the United States. Players got rich, but that didn't had any impact on the ground situation.
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And don't forget the next World Cup will hosted by three separate countries, so expect that there will some games that will be played simultaneously.

Yes, it's not hard to do more games simultaneously, USA alone is a huge country, with great infrastructure to travel, Canada and Mexico will host only 10 matches each one, but it will help, so it's not a impossible task.

Yes, I just found out that the USA will host most of the games especially the qualifiers onwards, 40 games to be exact and it's quite reasonable because they got bigger stadiums that can cater hundreds of thousands of people at once. The FIFA won't let the players get exhausted for travelling in and out towards other countries especially when the games are getting more intense.
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Yes, this is surprising that china has been participating in all the sports but they do not have a strong football team. You can see that in Olympic china participate in almost every game but why they never give importance to football, is really beyond my understanding. Same goes for India as they have also been lagging in this sports.
Yes, China is indeed a country that already has athletes in almost all sports but is very behind in football and what you said is true because China and India do not have national football teams that are strong enough to be able to participate in World Cup competitions.
This can be because football is a team game consisting of 11 main players and several reserve players plus team administrators such as coaches or managers and many more so that it requires very large funds to be able to build and have a really strong and national team. worthy of competing in the World Cup.
The contract price for every player who has good skills and a pretty good football career is also very expensive so it may be difficult for a country to have good players in its national team.
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I remember 1994 because it was the first World Cup I watched
I think the change from 24 to 32 in 1998 was the right decision, but the 48 teams we'll find in a few years, maybe it will be better too, more people enjoying a great party.

About the duration of 2026 WC, I think it will be the same, 1 month:

1998 was the first world cup that I watched and I have only heard about the 1994 edition. I guess back in 1998 also a lot of people would have argued against expanding the tournament to include more teams. But it went rather smoothly. Now they are expanding the tournament again, after a duration of almost three decades. As I mentioned many times before, I am 100% in support of the expansion. 48 seems to be the optimal number, given the requirement to give adequate representation for all the confederations.

There will be approximately 100 matches for the 2026 edition, which is relatively higher than what we had during Qatar 2022 (64 matches in 28 days). But then, some of the leagues around the world have even more matches and no one complains about them. The English Premier League has close to 200 matches per season and no one argues that it is too long. World Cup happens once every 4 years and the fans deserve a tournament that lasts at least 1 month.
The World Cup should include more teams. Fans who want to see their teams play can look forward to more matches. There may be drawbacks. Attendees may struggle to pay. To watch all 100 games, fans may need to take time off work and budget for travel and lodging. Some may find it hard to attend. Player injury is another problem. More tournament games mean more injuries. Concerned about player safety, clubs may hesitate to release players for international duty. Expanding the World Cup has pros and cons. Protecting players while producing a spectator-friendly sport is tricky.
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And don't forget the next World Cup will hosted by three separate countries, so expect that there will some games that will be played simultaneously.

Yes, it's not hard to do more games simultaneously, USA alone is a huge country, with great infrastructure to travel, Canada and Mexico will host only 10 matches each one, but it will help, so it's not a impossible task.

There will be approximately 100 matches for the 2026 edition, which is relatively higher than what we had during Qatar 2022 (64 matches in 28 days). But then, some of the leagues around the world have even more matches and no one complains about them. The English Premier League has close to 200 matches per season and no one argues that it is too long. World Cup happens once every 4 years and the fans deserve a tournament that lasts at least 1 month.

As I said above, I think it's not hard to do these 100 matches in 3 countries, specially with USA being the main host.
Maybe it could be a problem in the next editions if they choose smaller countries. But as everything indicates, the 2030 cup will also be in at least 3 countries, and the trend is that it will be like this in the future. Probably no more World Cup in just one country.

I couldn't find any long term improvement for the United States, that came from the 1994 World Cup. Huge amounts of funds have been spent in popularizing football in that country, but the Major League Soccer (MLS) lags other sports such as NBA, NHL, NFL and MLB in terms of popularity and participation. Now awarding them the 2026 world cup is another attempt to popularize football within that country. What makes them think that the same strategy, that didn't worked well in 1994 will work this time around?

In my opinion there's a lot of improvement after 1994
1954 to 1986 they did not qualify for World Cup, but after that they only missed 2018 in Russia

I remember in 2002 they got to quarters, and lost to Germany, probably the best USA team I saw.
Unfortunately there was a handball that saved Germany, and in my opinion it was a HUGE mistake against USA, they would get to semi finals
Take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctBKzj6HUSk

And after 1994 you can see a consistency in the United States, they are always trying to improve, always having a competitive team.
You also have to consider that MLS is always trying to attract good players and having more audience, but it is very hard to compete with Europe.
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Wow, to be honest I didn't really thought that American national football league was generating so much money. In Europe, almost no one talks about American football and baseball. You'll more likely hear the word baseball stick used when someone saws a big fat stick but not a single word around the game itself.

Football (I'll never call it soccer Cheesy) is the most popular sport in all over the world, including Europe, Central America, Africa, Asia and still it doesn't generate a shit compared to the sports that are popular in America but unpopular in the rest of the world.

Well.. the revenue figures speak of themselves. NFL (American football) generates a revenue of $13 billion per year, while MLS (association football) generates just $461 million. The situation has remained the same, despite the fact that the United States receives close to 1 million migrants per year (mostly from countries such as Mexico where football is immensely popular). Americans are glued to their own versions of sports (baseball, American football.etc), which no one else in the world is interested. In Canada also they have the same situation.
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