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There is no doubt that both the Asian countries of Japan and South Korea are continuously striving to build their national teams, and both of them are striving to make their teams more organized than their Asian counterparts. As far as I know, of all the Asian teams they have played in the world cups, South Korea is the only one they have ever managed to play in a semi-final in 2002. I guess they would have been able to play better in the last world cup, and I'm eager to see what will happen in 2026.

Yeah, they are getting better on every tournament. I guess they have enough money and interest to develop their national team and it's starting to bring good results. With Qatar we can see that you can't create a competitive national football team in 10 years.
In fact, since Qatar is very economically viable, they need to train their national football team well and turn it into a fairly good team for the next World Cup. But I think Qatar will turn into a good team in a few years.
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There is no doubt that both the Asian countries of Japan and South Korea are continuously striving to build their national teams, and both of them are striving to make their teams more organized than their Asian counterparts. As far as I know, of all the Asian teams they have played in the world cups, South Korea is the only one they have ever managed to play in a semi-final in 2002. I guess they would have been able to play better in the last world cup, and I'm eager to see what will happen in 2026.

Yeah, they are getting better on every tournament. I guess they have enough money and interest to develop their national team and it's starting to bring good results. With Qatar we can see that you can't create a competitive national football team in 10 years.
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But different from Japanese football, South Korea, they have a much better system than other Asian. even if the two countries are serious about developing their football. I believe, Japan and South Korea can be much better than what they are currently showing. So, speaking of the 2026 world cup. several Asian teams that will participate in the world cup rounds later, will only be entertainment teams. I do not intend to belittle, but armed with what I know. that's the truth. however, the world cup still has a long time lag, hopefully teams from Asia will want to build up their football so that it can grow even more.
Talking about Japan and South Korea, they are more organized in terms of developing sports such as football and the large number of players who also compete in European leagues makes their national players have more experience and that is quite helpful when they will compete in the World Cup later. , and agree with you that there will be many Asian countries that will only be cheerers during the World Cup later but maybe it will be different if they start to improve from now on even though the results will not be immediately visible but at least in the next few World Cups there will be more Asian countries which provides strong resistance for strong teams such as from European and American countries.

There is no doubt that both the Asian countries of Japan and South Korea are continuously striving to build their national teams, and both of them are striving to make their teams more organized than their Asian counterparts. As far as I know, of all the Asian teams they have played in the world cups, South Korea is the only one they have ever managed to play in a semi-final in 2002. I guess they would have been able to play better in the last world cup, and I'm eager to see what will happen in 2026.
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But different from Japanese football, South Korea, they have a much better system than other Asian. even if the two countries are serious about developing their football. I believe, Japan and South Korea can be much better than what they are currently showing. So, speaking of the 2026 world cup. several Asian teams that will participate in the world cup rounds later, will only be entertainment teams. I do not intend to belittle, but armed with what I know. that's the truth. however, the world cup still has a long time lag, hopefully teams from Asia will want to build up their football so that it can grow even more.
Talking about Japan and South Korea, they are more organized in terms of developing sports such as football and the large number of players who also compete in European leagues makes their national players have more experience and that is quite helpful when they will compete in the World Cup later. , and agree with you that there will be many Asian countries that will only be cheerers during the World Cup later but maybe it will be different if they start to improve from now on even though the results will not be immediately visible but at least in the next few World Cups there will be more Asian countries which provides strong resistance for strong teams such as from European and American countries.
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America has it's own problems with poor people not getting any financial or any other aid. I'm pretty sure that won't change even if they don't have to build new stadiums. I don't know why people expect that football competition should cause a country to change the way they treat poor people. I'm not saying that it's OK not to financially support poor people, I just think that football should focus on playing football and organizing competitions and let politics care about financial aids.

I agree with you to some extent. Sports should be separated from politics (but that doesn't happen always). But in this case, there is a strong link between the deaths of workers and the world cup. Because these workers died during the construction of stadiums during the world cup. Complaints were made to FIFA about the poor working conditions, but they refused to interfere. And at that point, they had a lot of influence and could have done something good for the workers if they had the will. The 6,000+ deaths during the construction of world cup stadiums will remain as a blot for FIFA, as long as this competition exists.
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I can completely agree with this, the national leagues of Africa and Asia are really organizationally and financially far below the level of European football leagues and the quality of football is low.
However, if you look at the squads of the leading African and Asian teams, you will see that most of their main players actually play in European clubs and leagues and not in the national championships of their countries.
Through the experience of playing in the strongest European leagues, African and Asian players gain important experience, undergo professional training and raise the level of their game and understanding of all aspects of professional football.
This is why it is wrong to say that if football in African and Asian national leagues is bad, that automatically means that their national teams are also bad. Exactly the opposite, and that was brilliantly demonstrated by Morocco at the last world cup in Qatar.

For the African continent, it is clear, there are many players from African countries who play with teams in European leagues. In fact, there are several names who have become star players who have played for big European clubs. like for example, Sadio Mane, Osimhem, and also many other players. Even so, I don't really know for sure how things are going in their domestic league. at least, Africa is currently doing better than Asia.

For Asia, it is true that there are many Asian players playing in European competitions. but not all of Asia, mostly dominated by players from Japan, or South Korea. the rest, not so famous.To be honest, because I come from Asia, football in Asia doesn't change much. whether it's from the organization, finance, system, infrastructure, everything is below the level of European football. Naturally, if the quality of teams from Asia is very low.

But different from Japanese football, South Korea, they have a much better system than other Asian. even if the two countries are serious about developing their football. I believe, Japan and South Korea can be much better than what they are currently showing. So, speaking of the 2026 world cup. several Asian teams that will participate in the world cup rounds later, will only be entertainment teams. I do not intend to belittle, but armed with what I know. that's the truth. however, the world cup still has a long time lag, hopefully teams from Asia will want to build up their football so that it can grow even more.
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There are many things on TV that look great and better than they actually are, but in fact, there are many poor people in Qatar who can receive some assistance from the government instead of building this stadium for the world cup because the Qatari government has no resources for the world cup. In 2026, I guess American's situation will be much better and they will not spend such a large amount of money on building stadiums when they have so many people who are in need.

America has it's own problems with poor people not getting any financial or any other aid. I'm pretty sure that won't change even if they don't have to build new stadiums. I don't know why people expect that football competition should cause a country to change the way they treat poor people. I'm not saying that it's OK not to financially support poor people, I just think that football should focus on playing football and organizing competitions and let politics care about financial aids.
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Why do you say that the World Cup held in Qatar was disappointing? I wasn't there so I can't say anything about organization of the competition and how the fans were treated, but on TV it looked pretty OK. There was a lot of surprising results so it was really a good competition. I feel the same with the World Cup that was hosted by Russia five years ago.

Well.. on the TV it would look great anyway. But that doesn't mean that everything was alright on the ground. Fans were left frustrated with the inflated hotel prices and restrictions on food and drinks. But what made this world cup a bitter experience for me was the refusal from Qatar to compensate the families of 6,000 plus workers who died during the stadium constructions. While Qatar was showing off its wealth during the tournament, little children of dead workers were going with empty stomach in Nepal and Bangladesh, as they were denied any sort of financial compensation.

I sincerely hope that FIFA would never allow countries like Qatar to host this competition ever again. Those who doesn't know the meaning of humanity and compassion doesn't have the right to stage such global tournaments. They spent close to $300 billion in hosting the world cup. Just 0.1% of this amount would have compensated the families of the poor workers who lost their lives.

There are many things on TV that look great and better than they actually are, but in fact, there are many poor people in Qatar who can receive some assistance from the government instead of building this stadium for the world cup because the Qatari government has no resources for the world cup. In 2026, I guess American's situation will be much better and they will not spend such a large amount of money on building stadiums when they have so many people who are in need.
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Why do you say that the World Cup held in Qatar was disappointing? I wasn't there so I can't say anything about organization of the competition and how the fans were treated, but on TV it looked pretty OK. There was a lot of surprising results so it was really a good competition. I feel the same with the World Cup that was hosted by Russia five years ago.

Well.. on the TV it would look great anyway. But that doesn't mean that everything was alright on the ground. Fans were left frustrated with the inflated hotel prices and restrictions on food and drinks. But what made this world cup a bitter experience for me was the refusal from Qatar to compensate the families of 6,000 plus workers who died during the stadium constructions. While Qatar was showing off its wealth during the tournament, little children of dead workers were going with empty stomach in Nepal and Bangladesh, as they were denied any sort of financial compensation.

I sincerely hope that FIFA would never allow countries like Qatar to host this competition ever again. Those who doesn't know the meaning of humanity and compassion doesn't have the right to stage such global tournaments. They spent close to $300 billion in hosting the world cup. Just 0.1% of this amount would have compensated the families of the poor workers who lost their lives.
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In fact, the Asian team, South Korea, played in the semi-finals of the World Cup back in 2002 and ended up fourth in the world, just like Morocco now.
At the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, Ghana played in the quarter-finals against Uruguay and in the last minute of the game did not use the penalty to win and advance to the semi-finals.
So, it was obviously only a matter of time before an African national team played in the semi-finals of the World Cup and finally Morocco managed to do it last year at the World Cup in Qatar.
In the future, I expect that the difference in quality between national teams from different continents will decrease even more and we will see even better results from African and Asian national teams.

During the last world cups usually, we had at least one Europian team in the final match and most of teams they played in semi-final and above were Euopian teams but this time, and in last world cup in 2022 Argentina won the cup as an American team and it was signal to say teams from America are still powerful and we can hope on them like this new world cup which is going to be in America. But we didn't see a lot from Asia and being south Korea in the semi-final can be just an expectation.
There is no big progress from the Asian teams, Saudi Arabia won an unexpected win. As an African team Morocco reached the semifinals. Argentina finally won the finals. The involvement of Asian teams isn't that high, but the 2022 world cup hosted by Qatar have made more Asian people watch it. The same have made them follow football later on. This is positive thing and the same could reflect in the future.

Unfortunately Africa and Asia has not progressed much when it comes to internal leagues, when we look at Europe for example we can see that they have several alloys and staggers and even when they are amateur games we can see people watching and we can see that they are games with Quality, but when they are high games from Africa and Asia the quality of games are bad, and because the quality of games in Africa and Asia and very low does not attract large TV channels and large companies to sponsor and as a result Players get little salary

Honestly it is sad when you see that a European player can take his salary of just 1 month and be able to pay a salary from an entire alloy from Africa, and a stark difference, as expected that Africa and Asia see World Cup way? At Asia particularly at least the players 'salary is better than African players' salary, but it also has no quality in the games, there was a time when I watched the South Korean League games, it was a disaster.

I can completely agree with this, the national leagues of Africa and Asia are really organizationally and financially far below the level of European football leagues and the quality of football is low.
However, if you look at the squads of the leading African and Asian teams, you will see that most of their main players actually play in European clubs and leagues and not in the national championships of their countries.
Through the experience of playing in the strongest European leagues, African and Asian players gain important experience, undergo professional training and raise the level of their game and understanding of all aspects of professional football.
This is why it is wrong to say that if football in African and Asian national leagues is bad, that automatically means that their national teams are also bad. Exactly the opposite, and that was brilliantly demonstrated by Morocco at the last world cup in Qatar.
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The whole point of disappointment most people are talking about is not what we saw on TV, people think it was a disappointment because they think Qatar hosted the world cup because of the million dollars the spent, and there there were many workers who died during these years there for building the stadium of the world cup, but this time America countries like USA, Canada, and Mexico will host the world cup and we hope to don't see the same story there.

I see. I thought that he was talking about the competition. Unfortunately, each time such an "exotic" country like Qatar (I mean exotic in football world, not in general. I don't wanna offend someone Smiley ) hosts the World Cup, it is and will be followed by many controversy. Countries like that don't have large stadiums so they have to build them. And that often comes with shady businesses where rich people get more richer.

As for the quality of the competition and games that are played, I don't think the hosting country or countries have any influence in that.
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I never thought that a FIFA president could be more corrupt and idiotic than Sepp Blatter, but then Infantino came around the corner... The guy is weird, he is just weird and talks nonsense and is ignorant of facts in an unbelievable manner.

I absolutely agree with you that the last two World Cups were disappointing. 2010 South Africa, 2006 Germany and also 2002 South Korea Japan, all of those World Cups were fun to follow and nobody thought it was the wrong decision to give those countries the World Cup. It was a completely different feeling with Russia and Qatar.

In terms of infrastructure the next Cup will be awesome, but I think what most people are concerned about could be security in Mexico. However, since Canada and the US are involved I am 100% sure that they are going to assist Mexico wherever they can and that people will feel safe in Mexico. Those three countries make a great combination of all the good stuff that is needed for an awesome tournament.

Why do you say that the World Cup held in Qatar was disappointing? I wasn't there so I can't say anything about organization of the competition and how the fans were treated, but on TV it looked pretty OK. There was a lot of surprising results so it was really a good competition. I feel the same with the World Cup that was hosted by Russia five years ago.

The whole point of disappointment most people are talking about is not what we saw on TV, people think it was a disappointment because they think Qatar hosted the world cup because of the million dollars the spent, and there there were many workers who died during these years there for building the stadium of the world cup, but this time America countries like USA, Canada, and Mexico will host the world cup and we hope to don't see the same story there.
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It is true and from there many speculations were made, because it began to be said that some sheikhs offered a very large amount of money to the Ecuadorian players, so much money that each player could fix their lives and that of their families, they just had to leave win, however, those same rumors claimed that the players did not accept.

The forceful result of the first World Cup game in Qatar left all that behind, but you are absolutely right, the hosts are those teams that have a lot of quality and it is very difficult to beat them, the truth is that sometimes these types of comments are made because they They are generated on sports channels and there they create debate and arouse some curiosity.

I am a person who always watches every special program of the World Cup and everything that is generated in the host country, and not only the World Cup, every sporting event that refers to fútbol..
I bet that was sort of true, like there was an "offer" on the table I am sure, but in the end it would be basically a risk not worth taking. What if they promised to pay you that much, you lost, and they didn't pay? What if they exposed you? Who are you going to complain to? Like are you going to go out and say "they promised us 100 million dollars and we lost but they didn't pay!!" to a judge or something? Of course not.

This is why I believe they didn't take it. In the end, I think USA for example could end up winning, they went out of the group stage, which shows that they are capable of winning, just need a weaker opponent and not some team like brazil or France.
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I never thought that a FIFA president could be more corrupt and idiotic than Sepp Blatter, but then Infantino came around the corner... The guy is weird, he is just weird and talks nonsense and is ignorant of facts in an unbelievable manner.

I absolutely agree with you that the last two World Cups were disappointing. 2010 South Africa, 2006 Germany and also 2002 South Korea Japan, all of those World Cups were fun to follow and nobody thought it was the wrong decision to give those countries the World Cup. It was a completely different feeling with Russia and Qatar.

In terms of infrastructure the next Cup will be awesome, but I think what most people are concerned about could be security in Mexico. However, since Canada and the US are involved I am 100% sure that they are going to assist Mexico wherever they can and that people will feel safe in Mexico. Those three countries make a great combination of all the good stuff that is needed for an awesome tournament.

Why do you say that the World Cup held in Qatar was disappointing? I wasn't there so I can't say anything about organization of the competition and how the fans were treated, but on TV it looked pretty OK. There was a lot of surprising results so it was really a good competition. I feel the same with the World Cup that was hosted by Russia five years ago.
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The thing about the house and the advantage is somewhat ambiguous, if it is necessary to consider that a host team has a little more advantage, but you must have a little more tact when it comes to giving a red or yellow card, because it is the advantage of the host, then it cannot be dealt with radically and harshly either, the hosts are the ones who usually win the first game, but in the case of Qatar things were very different, they even said that Ecuador had offered a lot of money to the players to let themselves win, I don't know if it was speculation or truth, but somehow that causes a lot of curiosity.


Maybe you get the feeling that the host is usually the team that wins the first game, but it has nothing to do with it. It's just because most of the time a host is a country with a good national team like Brazil, Germany, France... But when you look at how Qatar played in the last World Cup, you see that there is no home advantage if you play against a stronger opponent.

It is true and from there many speculations were made, because it began to be said that some sheikhs offered a very large amount of money to the Ecuadorian players, so much money that each player could fix their lives and that of their families, they just had to leave win, however, those same rumors claimed that the players did not accept.

The forceful result of the first World Cup game in Qatar left all that behind, but you are absolutely right, the hosts are those teams that have a lot of quality and it is very difficult to beat them, the truth is that sometimes these types of comments are made because they They are generated on sports channels and there they create debate and arouse some curiosity.

I am a person who always watches every special program of the World Cup and everything that is generated in the host country, and not only the World Cup, every sporting event that refers to fútbol..

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I hope we see a great tournament. I was a bit concerned about Qatar, but it ended up being a very entertaining world cup. Hopefully we see the same in the next one.

In my opinion, the Qatar Cup was the weakest of all the cups I have ever watched, followed by Russia. And I've watched them all since 1994, each cup had its charm and appeal, but the last two were the worst Fifa's choices, most likely based only on power and money.

With the 2026 World Cup, I already foresee that it will be a more enjoyable cup to watch and participate in. Three important countries on the world stage, Canada and the United States being countries with excellent infrastructure, security, and real chances of developing soccer. Mexico I can't talk about the infrastructure because I don't know them personally, but Mexico has a passion for soccer that is very cool, very similar to Brazil and Argentina, and already has stadiums and a very competitive team to play against other countries.

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The United States, Mexico and Canada will host the 2026 World Cup in which “three more CONCACAF teams will qualify for sure, and possibly even five,” Infantino specified.

“This next World Cup in North America is going to be the World Cup of America; it is going to be the World Cup (2026) that will change the balance in soccer, because we are going to focus our work in this part of the world,” added the FIFA chief.

Source: https://ticotimes.net/2023/02/27/infantino-claims-that-the-2026-world-cup-will-facilitate-the-advancement-of-soccer-in-central-america

This is really excting, if the president of Fifa is telling the true, it's good news

I never thought that a FIFA president could be more corrupt and idiotic than Sepp Blatter, but then Infantino came around the corner... The guy is weird, he is just weird and talks nonsense and is ignorant of facts in an unbelievable manner.

I absolutely agree with you that the last two World Cups were disappointing. 2010 South Africa, 2006 Germany and also 2002 South Korea Japan, all of those World Cups were fun to follow and nobody thought it was the wrong decision to give those countries the World Cup. It was a completely different feeling with Russia and Qatar.

In terms of infrastructure the next Cup will be awesome, but I think what most people are concerned about could be security in Mexico. However, since Canada and the US are involved I am 100% sure that they are going to assist Mexico wherever they can and that people will feel safe in Mexico. Those three countries make a great combination of all the good stuff that is needed for an awesome tournament.

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I hope we see a great tournament. I was a bit concerned about Qatar, but it ended up being a very entertaining world cup. Hopefully we see the same in the next one.

In my opinion, the Qatar Cup was the weakest of all the cups I have ever watched, followed by Russia. And I've watched them all since 1994, each cup had its charm and appeal, but the last two were the worst Fifa's choices, most likely based only on power and money.

With the 2026 World Cup, I already foresee that it will be a more enjoyable cup to watch and participate in. Three important countries on the world stage, Canada and the United States being countries with excellent infrastructure, security, and real chances of developing soccer. Mexico I can't talk about the infrastructure because I don't know them personally, but Mexico has a passion for soccer that is very cool, very similar to Brazil and Argentina, and already has stadiums and a very competitive team to play against other countries.

Another thing:



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Balance in soccer
The United States, Mexico and Canada will host the 2026 World Cup in which “three more CONCACAF teams will qualify for sure, and possibly even five,” Infantino specified.

“This next World Cup in North America is going to be the World Cup of America; it is going to be the World Cup (2026) that will change the balance in soccer, because we are going to focus our work in this part of the world,” added the FIFA chief.

Source: https://ticotimes.net/2023/02/27/infantino-claims-that-the-2026-world-cup-will-facilitate-the-advancement-of-soccer-in-central-america

This is really excting, if the president of Fifa is telling the true, it's good news
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Yes it is also hard to tell how much corruption still plays a role no matter who is the actual host of the tournament. When construction companies receive contracts from the government, the people losing are the people living in that country and paying taxes. Those who get well paid contracts don't care when afterwards those stadiums are not even used anymore. That is why on the one hand it is good to get poorer countries involved as well because they should not be excluded, but if they lack the infrastructure and have to invest billions into stadiums when their schools would need the money even more, I don't really think that makes a lot of sense. That's not an easy topic to discuss. Canada, Mexico and the US is alright. Even Mexico doesn't have to build their infrastructure from scratch as they have big enough stadiums with up to roughly 80,000 in capacity.

Yeah, corruption is a world wide problem. It's everywhere, and it's hard to remove it.

At the end of the day, the economic incentives usually play a big role in huge events like this one.

I hope we see a great tournament. I was a bit concerned about Qatar, but it ended up being a very entertaining world cup. Hopefully we see the same in the next one.
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I agree on the quality. The Indian team is ranked 104th and they don't even reach the last round of AFC qualifiers most of the times. China is marginally better, and are ranked 80th in FIFA ranking. Two and half decades back, China was included in the top-40, but in due course the quality of their football declined. The problem here is that if you exclude these two countries, there goes 40% of the world's population. I am not in favor of giving direct qualification to these two countries, but there should be some compromise solution which increases the probability of them featuring in the world cup.
India team is not superior not only with World Cup level but also can't qualify to AFC Cup 2024 in Qatar, but not only with India but also China have spent much money last than three years ago and many star player joined with Chinese Super League teams but can't bring positive impact for China can speak more how to qualify in FIFA World Cup.

For Asian team qualify to FIFA World Cup seems dominate by the same teams national on every time World Cup, between Saudi Arabia, Australia, South Korea, Japan and Iran are the most appearance national teams participants in FIFA World Cup.
China need experienced players to qualify for the world cup, although china is not a football country that is known to playing football like that but they we need a string team with lots of experienced players for them to get the level of world cup and even qualifying for quarter final. If they keep spending money without workding on player agility and skills, it will take time for them to win up coming games. I could vividly reme6thay it had been long India qualified for world cup because I would like to see them play once again.
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Yes it is also hard to tell how much corruption still plays a role no matter who is the actual host of the tournament. When construction companies receive contracts from the government, the people losing are the people living in that country and paying taxes. Those who get well paid contracts don't care when afterwards those stadiums are not even used anymore. That is why on the one hand it is good to get poorer countries involved as well because they should not be excluded, but if they lack the infrastructure and have to invest billions into stadiums when their schools would need the money even more, I don't really think that makes a lot of sense. That's not an easy topic to discuss. Canada, Mexico and the US is alright. Even Mexico doesn't have to build their infrastructure from scratch as they have big enough stadiums with up to roughly 80,000 in capacity.
Organizing an event like the world cup is very costly so I have always thought that only countries that are very rich or that already have the infrastructure in place should be given the right to host it, now this could seem unfair and in a way it is, but if the world cup is given to a country that has to build everything from scratch and they do not have the money then they will end up accumulating huge debts and spending money in infrastructure they do not need.
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