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Quote from: Vaskiy on February 26, 2023, 09:56:20 PM

Agreed, it is South America and Europe dominating the football. However there is better progress from the Asian countries for football compared to the past. To reach the level of European Countries and South American countries in terms of football quality isn't and easy thing and it won't happen shortly. Now only leagues from Asia is slowly getting popularity with the participation of European players, which too a positive signal for the progress of football in Asia.

South America and Europe always dominance in FIFA World Cup edition last several edition time and the best achievement from African national team are Morocco success lead until semifinal on last edition FIFA World Cup 2022. Asian national team still difficult reach until higher stage and 16th is the best stage available by Asian teams.

Depend with domestic league quality and how many football player population in South America and Europe become different level on national team, every World Cup edition between Europe or South America national team are the winner.

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Quote from: nullama on February 26, 2023, 09:47:27 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on February 26, 2023, 06:51:39 PM

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When it comes to football,it is always Europe. For Asia right now it is cricket in my view, because most of the countries have cricket teams and few are the best in the World. Football is slowly making its way into the countries and infrastructure were getting developed. The importance cricket have got is high, and now people have begun to consider football and other games. This makes better future and good players emerging out of Asian countries too.

It really is South America vs Europe.

Any other continent is way below in any kind of metrics you can possibly think of.

Football is slowly appearing in other countries, but even if they are more popular, they are simply not at the same level of South America or Europe, where it is like religion.

Agreed, it is South America and Europe dominating the football. However there is better progress from the Asian countries for football compared to the past. To reach the level of European Countries and South American countries in terms of football quality isn't and easy thing and it won't happen shortly. Now only leagues from Asia is slowly getting popularity with the participation of European players, which too a positive signal for the progress of football in Asia.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on February 26, 2023, 06:51:39 PM

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When it comes to football,it is always Europe. For Asia right now it is cricket in my view, because most of the countries have cricket teams and few are the best in the World. Football is slowly making its way into the countries and infrastructure were getting developed. The importance cricket have got is high, and now people have begun to consider football and other games. This makes better future and good players emerging out of Asian countries too.

It really is South America vs Europe.

Any other continent is way below in any kind of metrics you can possibly think of.

Football is slowly appearing in other countries, but even if they are more popular, they are simply not at the same level of South America or Europe, where it is like religion.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on February 26, 2023, 02:20:29 PM

The continent of Asia is not that bad with countries at all. It is also good that a number of countries from Asia are directly admitted to this tournament. Europe is of course the strongest continent and that will not change. It's just a long way off. In 3.5 years the entire composition of a team can change completely and I think that will happen with some teams. Belgium seems to me to be a good example of this. It is a pity that Belgium and Germany did so poorly at the last World Cup, they still have a lot of potential and had a great crop in recent years.

Europe is still a reference in world football and I believe that will not change.
South America has always had a few countries that are excelent teams, Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay, and I believe this will remain so for a long time.

Regarding these countries that you mentioned, Belgium for me was one of the countries that most evolved in football, I believe, when Belgium eliminated Brazil in the 2018 World Cup, several countries began to look at Belgium with different eyes, because she managed to show the world that she has a good team and that she can improve in the near future

When it comes to football,it is always Europe. For Asia right now it is cricket in my view, because most of the countries have cricket teams and few are the best in the World. Football is slowly making its way into the countries and infrastructure were getting developed. The importance cricket have got is high, and now people have begun to consider football and other games. This makes better future and good players emerging out of Asian countries too.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on February 26, 2023, 02:20:29 PM

The continent of Asia is not that bad with countries at all. It is also good that a number of countries from Asia are directly admitted to this tournament. Europe is of course the strongest continent and that will not change. It's just a long way off. In 3.5 years the entire composition of a team can change completely and I think that will happen with some teams. Belgium seems to me to be a good example of this. It is a pity that Belgium and Germany did so poorly at the last World Cup, they still have a lot of potential and had a great crop in recent years.

Europe is still a reference in world football and I believe that will not change.
South America has always had a few countries that are excelent teams, Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay, and I believe this will remain so for a long time.

Regarding these countries that you mentioned, Belgium for me was one of the countries that most evolved in football, I believe, when Belgium eliminated Brazil in the 2018 World Cup, several countries began to look at Belgium with different eyes, because she managed to show the world that she has a good team and that she can improve in the near future

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The continent of Asia is not that bad with countries at all. It is also good that a number of countries from Asia are directly admitted to this tournament. Europe is of course the strongest continent and that will not change. It's just a long way off. In 3.5 years the entire composition of a team can change completely and I think that will happen with some teams. Belgium seems to me to be a good example of this. It is a pity that Belgium and Germany did so poorly at the last World Cup, they still have a lot of potential and had a great crop in recent years.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 26, 2023, 08:31:18 AM

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There is no big progress from the Asian teams, Saudi Arabia won an unexpected win. As an African team Morocco reached the semifinals. Argentina finally won the finals. The involvement of Asian teams isn't that high, but the 2022 world cup hosted by Qatar have made more Asian people watch it. The same have made them follow football later on. This is positive thing and the same could reflect in the future.

I would not completely agree with you. At this world championship in Qatar, Japan defeated two major European teams, Germany and Spain, and unfortunately lost to Croatia in the knockout phase. South Korea also advanced to the knockout stage of the competition.
Morocco played very well in this World Cup, but other African national teams were not very successful in this World Cup.
In any case, I believe that all sincere football fans are happy that Messi with Argentina finally won the only trophy he was missing, the title of world champion.

Yep I agree with you. at least Asia still has Japan and South Korea, the axis of Asian power has always been dominated by Japan and South Korea. the Japanese team are tenacious fighters, they have high spirits. I believe, if the Japanese government is more focused on improving football in the country. hence, Japan will be very much better than they showed in 2022 world cup Qatar. conversely, so did the South Korean team. for Saudi Arabia, they are now starting to focus more and to improve their football world to be more competitive, at least to keep up with Japan which always dominates the Asian Cup.

For the African continent, at least currently their world of football has been more developed than Asia. proven, there are many new talents who have emerged to become stars in big European clubs. but for the rest of Asia, I don't expect much. because their football world is very slow to develop. speaking of the Argentina squad, from the start I said that I was part of their fans. but at the 2026 world cup later, I doubt I can go far, like at the 2022 world cup Qatar. because, Argentina does not have a very shining generation.

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In fact, the Asian team, South Korea, played in the semi-finals of the World Cup back in 2002 and ended up fourth in the world, just like Morocco now.
At the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, Ghana played in the quarter-finals against Uruguay and in the last minute of the game did not use the penalty to win and advance to the semi-finals.
So, it was obviously only a matter of time before an African national team played in the semi-finals of the World Cup and finally Morocco managed to do it last year at the World Cup in Qatar.
In the future, I expect that the difference in quality between national teams from different continents will decrease even more and we will see even better results from African and Asian national teams.

During the last world cups usually, we had at least one Europian team in the final match and most of teams they played in semi-final and above were Euopian teams but this time, and in last world cup in 2022 Argentina won the cup as an American team and it was signal to say teams from America are still powerful and we can hope on them like this new world cup which is going to be in America. But we didn't see a lot from Asia and being south Korea in the semi-final can be just an expectation.

There is no big progress from the Asian teams, Saudi Arabia won an unexpected win. As an African team Morocco reached the semifinals. Argentina finally won the finals. The involvement of Asian teams isn't that high, but the 2022 world cup hosted by Qatar have made more Asian people watch it. The same have made them follow football later on. This is positive thing and the same could reflect in the future.

I would not completely agree with you. At this world championship in Qatar, Japan defeated two major European teams, Germany and Spain, and unfortunately lost to Croatia in the knockout phase. South Korea also advanced to the knockout stage of the competition.
Morocco played very well in this World Cup, but other African national teams were not very successful in this World Cup.
In any case, I believe that all sincere football fans are happy that Messi with Argentina finally won the only trophy he was missing, the title of world champion.

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Quote from: shogun47 on February 25, 2023, 05:11:29 PM

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There is a reason that Europe has the largest lobby when it comes to international tournaments. I am not saying that I like that, but all these tournaments must be financed one way or another and you need countries that are able to stem the task. This is no easy endeavor.

Many African countries don't have the resources and also not the infrastructure to stem a World Cup. Qatar was an exception for one specific reason: they had the money and the access to make it happen.Whether it was right to have a World Cup in Qatar? No, in my opinion. But they could do it and they did. This is the difference to some countries around the world that are amazing countries but don't have the resources to pull it off.

Yeah, at the end of the day money talks. You actually need lots of resources to organize a world cup, and actually make it a reality. It's a gamble that many countries take hoping to get a better return from their investment.

And then FIFA of course gets a cut from it all as well.

At the end of the day, anything that is popular will attract lots of people that want to control it.

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The FIFA World Cup is about to get lit! With the expansion to 48 teams, we're gona see some seriouss excitement, diversity, and unpredictability up in here! Can you imagin the group phase with even more teams battling it out for a spot in the knockout roundss? It's gonna be off the hook!

I'm especially pumped to see how the teams from Asia and Afrika represent on the world stage. It's their time to shine and show us what they're made of. And let's not forget the impact this could have on the growth of football in those regions. Majorr moves, people!

Of coursee, with more teams, there's a higher chance of mediocrity creeping in. FIFA better makes sure they're selecting the best of the best from each region so we dont have any snooze-fests. And let's not forget the logistical challenges that come with hosting more teams. But hey, we'll cross that bridge when we get to itt.

If you remember, some of the most exciting matches during Qatar 2022 involved teams from Africa and Asia. One of the African teams (Morocco) even managed to reach the semi-final stage. There is no point in giving half of all the slots to Europe, when the difference in quality between European teams and the rest of the world is now negligible. BTW, UEFA fans have nothing to worry. In absolute numbers they are getting the largest increase as the quota for that confederation increases by 3 for the 2026 edition (for CONMEBOL it is only +2).

I think FIFA Know what they are doing by making two countries to host the world cup. This might be the first time this is happening but we need to understand that there are many countries that are very ready to host the world cup and due to the competition, I think FIFA has the option or power to decide who will host the next world cup entire.
Whether there are two countries hosting the world cup, we will need to try this out if it is going tobe a better option foe peopl.

There is a reason that Europe has the largest lobby when it comes to international tournaments. I am not saying that I like that, but all these tournaments must be financed one way or another and you need countries that are able to stem the task. This is no easy endeavor.

Many African countries don't have the resources and also not the infrastructure to stem a World Cup. Qatar was an exception for one specific reason: they had the money and the access to make it happen.Whether it was right to have a World Cup in Qatar? No, in my opinion. But they could do it and they did. This is the difference to some countries around the world that are amazing countries but don't have the resources to pull it off.

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It was like Western nations dominating the world cup. Now everything have changed as national teams have begun to perform better. We used to have players from different countries playing for a club and that way clubs looks strong. When we see as nation the number is low. In recent years the importance of national teams were prioritised. With time football is getting spread around as well as the quality of football between the continents have come closer. With the contract of Ronaldo with Saudi Club the league have gained more importance. The same have made more Asian people watch the league. This way the viewership of football too increased.

I think Mexico was added exactly for this reason. There is an increasing interest towards football in Canada and USA, and they are getting fairly decent teams into world cup as we have seen on the last one, which means that they are getting closer but they are nowhere near the levels of European teams, but they are pretty rich.

So, what can they do? They added Mexico, a nation that is not as rich, and can't provide much financially, but can provide immense amount of football fans, both in Mexico, and even in USA and Canada if required, because they are huge fans. So, the only reason they were added was to make it a bit more like football fans wanted this.

Maybe that's the real reason behind the venues in Mexico and Canada. As mentioned USA is the richest country and it can host the FIFA World Cup 2026, but the need of fan support had made them go for a choice of hosting the World Cup along with Mexico and Canada. European teams are incomparable with the USA team but they've got the source to develop football. Maybe after the 2026 World Cup USA might emerge as a big team in football. Anything can happen.

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It was like Western nations dominating the world cup. Now everything have changed as national teams have begun to perform better. We used to have players from different countries playing for a club and that way clubs looks strong. When we see as nation the number is low. In recent years the importance of national teams were prioritised. With time football is getting spread around as well as the quality of football between the continents have come closer. With the contract of Ronaldo with Saudi Club the league have gained more importance. The same have made more Asian people watch the league. This way the viewership of football too increased.

I think Mexico was added exactly for this reason. There is an increasing interest towards football in Canada and USA, and they are getting fairly decent teams into world cup as we have seen on the last one, which means that they are getting closer but they are nowhere near the levels of European teams, but they are pretty rich.

So, what can they do? They added Mexico, a nation that is not as rich, and can't provide much financially, but can provide immense amount of football fans, both in Mexico, and even in USA and Canada if required, because they are huge fans. So, the only reason they were added was to make it a bit more like football fans wanted this.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on February 25, 2023, 02:07:00 PM

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In fact, the Asian team, South Korea, played in the semi-finals of the World Cup back in 2002 and ended up fourth in the world, just like Morocco now.
At the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, Ghana played in the quarter-finals against Uruguay and in the last minute of the game did not use the penalty to win and advance to the semi-finals.
So, it was obviously only a matter of time before an African national team played in the semi-finals of the World Cup and finally Morocco managed to do it last year at the World Cup in Qatar.
In the future, I expect that the difference in quality between national teams from different continents will decrease even more and we will see even better results from African and Asian national teams.

During the last world cups usually, we had at least one Europian team in the final match and most of teams they played in semi-final and above were Euopian teams but this time, and in last world cup in 2022 Argentina won the cup as an American team and it was signal to say teams from America are still powerful and we can hope on them like this new world cup which is going to be in America. But we didn't see a lot from Asia and being south Korea in the semi-final can be just an expectation.

There is no big progress from the Asian teams, Saudi Arabia won an unexpected win. As an African team Morocco reached the semifinals. Argentina finally won the finals. The involvement of Asian teams isn't that high, but the 2022 world cup hosted by Qatar have made more Asian people watch it. The same have made them follow football later on. This is positive thing and the same could reflect in the future.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on February 25, 2023, 02:07:00 PM

During the last world cups usually, we had at least one Europian team in the final match and most of teams they played in semi-final and above were Euopian teams but this time, and in last world cup in 2022 Argentina won the cup as an American team and it was signal to say teams from America are still powerful and we can hope on them like this new world cup which is going to be in America. But we didn't see a lot from Asia and being south Korea in the semi-final can be just an expectation.

European national team always dominance on every FIFA World Cup edition except last time edition although France success lead until to final stage but Argentina superior and success broken the several time history with FIFA World Cup tittle got by European national teams. I don't really sure with Asian teams because every edition time most great achievement on 16th rounds before eliminating by European team.

Next edition World Cup held on in American and potential for Argentina or Brazil continues the best achievement in World Cup, but European national team from France, Netherland, France and Germany has potential can lead to the final stage.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 25, 2023, 09:40:32 AM

In fact, the Asian team, South Korea, played in the semi-finals of the World Cup back in 2002 and ended up fourth in the world, just like Morocco now.
At the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, Ghana played in the quarter-finals against Uruguay and in the last minute of the game did not use the penalty to win and advance to the semi-finals.
So, it was obviously only a matter of time before an African national team played in the semi-finals of the World Cup and finally Morocco managed to do it last year at the World Cup in Qatar.
In the future, I expect that the difference in quality between national teams from different continents will decrease even more and we will see even better results from African and Asian national teams.

During the last world cups usually, we had at least one Europian team in the final match and most of teams they played in semi-final and above were Euopian teams but this time, and in last world cup in 2022 Argentina won the cup as an American team and it was signal to say teams from America are still powerful and we can hope on them like this new world cup which is going to be in America. But we didn't see a lot from Asia and being south Korea in the semi-final can be just an expectation.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 25, 2023, 09:40:32 AM

In fact, the Asian team, South Korea, played in the semi-finals of the World Cup back in 2002 and ended up fourth in the world, just like Morocco now.
At the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, Ghana played in the quarter-finals against Uruguay and in the last minute of the game did not use the penalty to win and advance to the semi-finals.
So, it was obviously only a matter of time before an African national team played in the semi-finals of the World Cup and finally Morocco managed to do it last year at the World Cup in Qatar.
In the future, I expect that the difference in quality between national teams from different continents will decrease even more and we will see even better results from African and Asian national teams.

For South Korea, there was a lot of buzz as to how they got to the semifinals. Rumor has it that there was cheating that allowed South Korea to reach the semifinals at the 2002 World Cup. Even so, I don't dare to assume too much because after all this rumor has been around for a very long time.
In the 2010 world cup, Ghana was able to advance to the quarter-finals against Uruguay and the score ended 1-1 which in the end had to be resolved through a penalty shoot-out. whereas, at that time Uruguay was filled with several stars such as Suarez, Cavani and Diego Forlan.

For Maroco, the underdog team that was initially underestimated. but in fact, they were able to advance to the semifinals. uniquely, Morocco is not too strong. but they have a spirit of nationalism that makes it able to overthrow the leading team.
In the future, it looks like the African continent has good prospects for the development of its football. maybe, in the 2026 cup some countries from Africa can surprise us. for Asia, the development of Asian football is far behind. in particular, asean. I don't think it's time for Asian countries, the ASEAN division to appear in the world championship competition.

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Every World Cup we see something new. In this world cup as we got to see the world cup trophy in the hands of the best Lionel Messi in history, it is very lucky for our generation. We expect to see more innovations in the next World Cup, and everyone wants the new team to make a big splash and take home the next World Cup.

Apart from Messi winning the trophy. We saw an African team for the first time to getting into the semi-finals which is the Morocco team, it was surprising and very interesting to Morocco having that impressive performance in the competition. The next World cup will definitely come with something new.

We know that it is only at the 2022 World Cup that teams from Africa can advance to the semifinals because previously the highest achievement was the quarterfinals and this should be even more motivation for teams from continents other than Europe and America to be able to reach a better round and not impossible to get to the final but that can happen if the competition on these continents is good and competitive.

In fact, the Asian team, South Korea, played in the semi-finals of the World Cup back in 2002 and ended up fourth in the world, just like Morocco now.
At the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, Ghana played in the quarter-finals against Uruguay and in the last minute of the game did not use the penalty to win and advance to the semi-finals.
So, it was obviously only a matter of time before an African national team played in the semi-finals of the World Cup and finally Morocco managed to do it last year at the World Cup in Qatar.
In the future, I expect that the difference in quality between national teams from different continents will decrease even more and we will see even better results from African and Asian national teams.

It was like Western nations dominating the world cup. Now everything have changed as national teams have begun to perform better. We used to have players from different countries playing for a club and that way clubs looks strong. When we see as nation the number is low. In recent years the importance of national teams were prioritised. With time football is getting spread around as well as the quality of football between the continents have come closer. With the contract of Ronaldo with Saudi Club the league have gained more importance. The same have made more Asian people watch the league. This way the viewership of football too increased.

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Quote from: Strongkored on February 25, 2023, 08:24:28 AM

Quote from: Gosgosking on February 25, 2023, 06:31:07 AM

Quote from: Naficopa on February 25, 2023, 05:09:58 AM

Every World Cup we see something new. In this world cup as we got to see the world cup trophy in the hands of the best Lionel Messi in history, it is very lucky for our generation. We expect to see more innovations in the next World Cup, and everyone wants the new team to make a big splash and take home the next World Cup.

Apart from Messi winning the trophy. We saw an African team for the first time to getting into the semi-finals which is the Morocco team, it was surprising and very interesting to Morocco having that impressive performance in the competition. The next World cup will definitely come with something new.

We know that it is only at the 2022 World Cup that teams from Africa can advance to the semifinals because previously the highest achievement was the quarterfinals and this should be even more motivation for teams from continents other than Europe and America to be able to reach a better round and not impossible to get to the final but that can happen if the competition on these continents is good and competitive.

In fact, the Asian team, South Korea, played in the semi-finals of the World Cup back in 2002 and ended up fourth in the world, just like Morocco now.
At the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, Ghana played in the quarter-finals against Uruguay and in the last minute of the game did not use the penalty to win and advance to the semi-finals.
So, it was obviously only a matter of time before an African national team played in the semi-finals of the World Cup and finally Morocco managed to do it last year at the World Cup in Qatar.
In the future, I expect that the difference in quality between national teams from different continents will decrease even more and we will see even better results from African and Asian national teams.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on February 25, 2023, 06:31:07 AM

Quote from: Naficopa on February 25, 2023, 05:09:58 AM

Every World Cup we see something new. In this world cup as we got to see the world cup trophy in the hands of the best Lionel Messi in history, it is very lucky for our generation. We expect to see more innovations in the next World Cup, and everyone wants the new team to make a big splash and take home the next World Cup.

Apart from Messi winning the trophy. We saw an African team for the first time to getting into the semi-finals which is the Morocco team, it was surprising and very interesting to Morocco having that impressive performance in the competition. The next World cup will definitely come with something new.

We know that it is only at the 2022 World Cup that teams from Africa can advance to the semifinals because previously the highest achievement was the quarterfinals and this should be even more motivation for teams from continents other than Europe and America to be able to reach a better round and not impossible to get to the final but that can happen if the competition on these continents is good and competitive.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on February 25, 2023, 06:38:25 AM

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Quote from: Naficopa on February 25, 2023, 05:09:58 AM

Every World Cup we see something new. In this world cup as we got to see the world cup trophy in the hands of the best Lionel Messi in history, it is very lucky for our generation. We expect to see more innovations in the next World Cup, and everyone wants the new team to make a big splash and take home the next World Cup.

Apart from Messi winning the trophy. We saw an African team for the first time to getting into the semi-finals which is the Morocco team, it was surprising and very interesting to Morocco having that impressive performance in the competition. The next World cup will definitely come with something new.

The last world cup in 2022 was amazing for Morocco and people in this country will always remember this year because they had their team, Morocco international team perfect matches, in the end, they lose the games agist France while they could even been in the final match. I think we are already planning for 2026 and maybe they can have an even better performance this time.

Agree with you, Morocco was able to perform exceptionally well. But the 2022 World Cup will be even more historic as a living legend like Lionel Messi will complete all the achievements of his football career by winning this World Cup title.

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