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You made a very interesting point of view and I agree with it. Brazilian football seems to have lost some of its shine. Nowadays, you don't see children playing football in the streets or on amateur pitches anymore. Many children have lost themselves to technology addiction and have left the sport aside. There is also a lot of corruption in the youth teams and schemes with businessmen. In a country where power corrupts, in the long run, everything good is lost. Brazilian football today is the result of all this.

It's a shame, in fact for me Brazil represents the world capital of football, whatever they say it is, I only know a small city and I loved it, but football was what was most breathed and that's something I liked, in fact to measure yourself with the Brazilians you need to train a lot, while the Brazilians play as if nothing and it seems like they never get tired, that's something I like, of course I went in 2014 after the World Cup and I saw the Arena stadium in Manaus, but I loved it, in addition to its people, its samba and everything, playing in the arena has been very difficult against them, it's something I suffered a lot, but in order not to be ashamed I had to give it my all, afterwards I couldn't because of tiredness at night, but at that time the aroma of football was very alive there, that's what the players have to recover now.

Anyone who plays football in the world knows Brazil as the most important and strongest country because of the many superstar players they had before and because of the high potential they have in Brazil but still having potential won't solve anything and other than this Brazil needs to have a better management system for their team to have better performance while they don't have it.
Even they could have used the former players and coaches they have for management but they didn't and this is a great sign of corruption in Brazil football.

Brazil WAS, and Brazil always along his history wich is very rich , has been this cicles of being a not so competitive team, if you see the history of world cups, they are Pele era + 1994 to 2002, after that they still have good teams until 2006 but since that it was pure downfall, even with Neymar who is a super star, but the team never was at his level.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 04, 2024, 01:03:42 AM

Quote from: criptoevangelista on October 03, 2024, 01:40:49 PM

You made a very interesting point of view and I agree with it. Brazilian football seems to have lost some of its shine. Nowadays, you don't see children playing football in the streets or on amateur pitches anymore. Many children have lost themselves to technology addiction and have left the sport aside. There is also a lot of corruption in the youth teams and schemes with businessmen. In a country where power corrupts, in the long run, everything good is lost. Brazilian football today is the result of all this.

It's a shame, in fact for me Brazil represents the world capital of football, whatever they say it is, I only know a small city and I loved it, but football was what was most breathed and that's something I liked, in fact to measure yourself with the Brazilians you need to train a lot, while the Brazilians play as if nothing and it seems like they never get tired, that's something I like, of course I went in 2014 after the World Cup and I saw the Arena stadium in Manaus, but I loved it, in addition to its people, its samba and everything, playing in the arena has been very difficult against them, it's something I suffered a lot, but in order not to be ashamed I had to give it my all, afterwards I couldn't because of tiredness at night, but at that time the aroma of football was very alive there, that's what the players have to recover now.

Anyone who plays football in the world knows Brazil as the most important and strongest country because of the many superstar players they had before and because of the high potential they have in Brazil but still having potential won't solve anything and other than this Brazil needs to have a better management system for their team to have better performance while they don't have it.
Even they could have used the former players and coaches they have for management but they didn't and this is a great sign of corruption in Brazil football.

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Now we have the former coach of the Brazilian national team available on the market, coach Adenor Leonardo Bachi AKA Tite. He was fired from the Flamengo team for not being able to bring the expected results, perhaps the CBF bringing him back to the team will be able to return to playing some respectable football again because as bad and stubborn as Tite is, he is the face of the Brazilian team.

You mean to tell me a manager who did so poorly at his club that he got fired should be the manager for the nation team? How would that make them any better? Obviously the dude wasn't good at all which caused him to lose his job, so if he joined the national team what guarantee he would do any better? Likely result would be that he will do worse.

I agree, during his tenure at Brazil, they did alright and they won and they were happy, but obviously he may not be the same person and the team may not be the same team so maybe this could be a bad idea. I am not against giving him a try out, firing the current manager would be awesome and they should, but the problem is that if they hire Tite, they won't be firing him anytime soon, they will keep him until end of world cup.

As the current manager who is in charge of Brazil is not as experienced as Brazil, Brazil should try to hire a manager with more experience and skill than him by sacking him. If Brazil fail to appoint a good manager, their team performance will continue to deteriorate. There are many football fans who are trolling Brazil when Brazil was once the biggest team in football. If we have to watch a World Cup where Brazil can't participate then I'd say watching the World Cup is a failure. We watch football we love football and we always have a love for the Brazil team and from that love we are saying that Brazil should change their manager soon it will improve their team.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 04, 2024, 01:03:42 AM

Quote from: criptoevangelista on October 03, 2024, 01:40:49 PM

You made a very interesting point of view and I agree with it. Brazilian football seems to have lost some of its shine. Nowadays, you don't see children playing football in the streets or on amateur pitches anymore. Many children have lost themselves to technology addiction and have left the sport aside. There is also a lot of corruption in the youth teams and schemes with businessmen. In a country where power corrupts, in the long run, everything good is lost. Brazilian football today is the result of all this.

It's a shame, in fact for me Brazil represents the world capital of football, whatever they say it is, I only know a small city and I loved it, but football was what was most breathed and that's something I liked, in fact to measure yourself with the Brazilians you need to train a lot, while the Brazilians play as if nothing and it seems like they never get tired, that's something I like, of course I went in 2014 after the World Cup and I saw the Arena stadium in Manaus, but I loved it, in addition to its people, its samba and everything, playing in the arena has been very difficult against them, it's something I suffered a lot, but in order not to be ashamed I had to give it my all, afterwards I couldn't because of tiredness at night, but at that time the aroma of football was very alive there, that's what the players have to recover now.

There is no doubt that Brazil is a country that has a lot of potential in football, they have a distinctive football and so on, and it is supported by famous players who were born in this country. But it is very unfortunate when they experience a decline like this which is caused by several things, one of which is mismanagement so that it has a direct impact on the performance of the Brazilian national team.
In fact, if we talk about players, we don't have to look hard for players from this country who already have big names and even star names. So logically they should be able to show something better than what they are showing now. But unfortunately all that did not happen, I hope they will quickly find their identity as a football country full of talent.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on October 03, 2024, 01:40:49 PM

You made a very interesting point of view and I agree with it. Brazilian football seems to have lost some of its shine. Nowadays, you don't see children playing football in the streets or on amateur pitches anymore. Many children have lost themselves to technology addiction and have left the sport aside. There is also a lot of corruption in the youth teams and schemes with businessmen. In a country where power corrupts, in the long run, everything good is lost. Brazilian football today is the result of all this.

It's a shame, in fact for me Brazil represents the world capital of football, whatever they say it is, I only know a small city and I loved it, but football was what was most breathed and that's something I liked, in fact to measure yourself with the Brazilians you need to train a lot, while the Brazilians play as if nothing and it seems like they never get tired, that's something I like, of course I went in 2014 after the World Cup and I saw the Arena stadium in Manaus, but I loved it, in addition to its people, its samba and everything, playing in the arena has been very difficult against them, it's something I suffered a lot, but in order not to be ashamed I had to give it my all, afterwards I couldn't because of tiredness at night, but at that time the aroma of football was very alive there, that's what the players have to recover now.

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True, Ancelotti cancellation from being recruited to become Brazil coach was not because of any problems with the federation or CBF but more likely because of an offer given by Real Madrid to be able to extend the contract because under coach Ancelotti, Real Madrid could show success.
Moreover, Ancelotti would definitely choose Real Madrid over Brazil when both made offers at the same time because with Real Madrid it is clear that he can work well and only needs to continue his performance, unlike when he handled Brazil he had to start from the beginning and it took time to be able to really show development and improvement in playing quality.
What is clear now is that I really can't think and say anything about Brazil regarding the coach problem because the only way is to find European or other coach who clearly has lot of experience, this kind of thing has been talked about lot since several years ago but in reality they still only rely on native coaches from Brazil.
Haha maybe this is about money and it is possible to save costs in bringing in and paying the coach salary.

Ancelotti was interested in taking charge of Brazil and was expected to take charge of the Brazil team after his contract with Real Madrid expired. But Real Madrid did not want to let go of this manager, so they renewed the contract with this manager, due to which Ancelotti could not take charge of Brazil. If Ancelotti had taken charge of the Brazilian team, the situation in Brazil would have really changed and the Brazilian team would have seen the light again. Homegrown managers will not work because Brazil has already vetted every manager and they have not had any good results. There are many well-known managers in Europe and if the CBF doesn't stop trying, some experienced European managers could come to Brazil.

Yes, that what we heard and knew before when there were many rumors about Ancelotti arrival as Brazil new coach and now we all know how the conditions are, which is certain that bad results and decline without consistent performance improvements will really be obtained by Brazil if it is always like this.
I will not make Brazil favorite team in the upcoming 2026 World Cup when they are still the same, meaning there is no change and also any development made to really be tough in participating in this most important competition.

By the way, this month Brazil has 2 match World Cup Qualifiers against Chile and against Peru, curious about Brazil results whether they can win both and get points to improve their ranking or even get bad results and have to be in an uncomfortable zone.

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The daily work done at a club is completely different from that done at a national team. Tite was the coach of the Brazilian national team for many, many years, so he is already accustomed to the routine of a national team. At the club, he did poorly, but he did not leave the team in total chaos. He did a below-average job, of course, but nothing as bad as Dorival Junior's work at the helm of the Brazilian national team. Tite had not been in charge of a club for a long time, and I believe he had a lot of difficulty in getting back into the swing of things... Today, thinking about it, the best person to coach the national team today would be to bring back coach Tite, or else try to find a high-level European coach.

Yes, absolutely right.

There is a huge difference between playing in your club team and playing for your national team.

Basically it's almost like one is done for the money and the other one is for honor in a way.

I know they get paid in both cases, but clubs usually pay more than national teams, and also you can choose your team, but you can't usually choose your nationality.

In my opinion, a coach for a national team needs to be someone who has already coached local teams and won many titles with different teams. Preferably, it should be someone from the same country, but when you have scenarios like Brazil, for example, where players play abroad, then it makes more sense to hire a foreign coach who has had success with teams in the major European leagues, because he will know the players well. The difference between the national team and the local team is that, in addition to the money the players receive being different amounts

there is also the time it takes for the players to get used to it. For example, if a national team A is going to play, the national coach has less than 7 days to put all the players in the coach's position. After the game, he will spend many months without a game, without putting all the players together to train, while the coach of the local team spends every day with the players, watching their training sessions and creating strategies.

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It's indeed unfortunate to see a team like Brazil, that used to dominate the field with its glorious play, is now struggling to maintain the standards. A change in management, a competent coach like Abel Ferreira, who has already displayed his prowess by bagging several titles, could indeed bring a directional change for the team. Yet, it's not just about the coach but the collective team performance which makes the real difference. The heart of every player makes the team; missing it clearly shows in their performance. It's high time that they pull themselves together and learn from their mistakes because facing other South American opponents isn't going to be a walk in the park. Their agility and readiness to pounce on any opportunity is really commendable and a learning lesson for the Brazilian side. They need to revamp their strategies and approach swiftly before it's too late.

The only way for Brazil to get out of where it is is with players like Neymar, like Ronaldo, Robinho, Roberto Carlos, Dinho, but what did these players do? It's simple, it's Joga Bonito, with Joga Bonito it was playing without rules as if they were on the street, where players had the freedom to do things with the ball as before, since they started playing technically very strict Brazil lost its only ingredient that made them different from the others, I think that if Brazil recovers its essence it will begin to play, they can even put Zidane as coach, who for me is one of the best in the world, but if he doesn't insist that Brazil play like before, then that's it.

You made a very interesting point of view and I agree with it. Brazilian football seems to have lost some of its shine. Nowadays, you don't see children playing football in the streets or on amateur pitches anymore. Many children have lost themselves to technology addiction and have left the sport aside. There is also a lot of corruption in the youth teams and schemes with businessmen. In a country where power corrupts, in the long run, everything good is lost. Brazilian football today is the result of all this.

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Quote from: Sg4j1n3ll0 on September 27, 2024, 02:37:21 AM

It's indeed unfortunate to see a team like Brazil, that used to dominate the field with its glorious play, is now struggling to maintain the standards. A change in management, a competent coach like Abel Ferreira, who has already displayed his prowess by bagging several titles, could indeed bring a directional change for the team. Yet, it's not just about the coach but the collective team performance which makes the real difference. The heart of every player makes the team; missing it clearly shows in their performance. It's high time that they pull themselves together and learn from their mistakes because facing other South American opponents isn't going to be a walk in the park. Their agility and readiness to pounce on any opportunity is really commendable and a learning lesson for the Brazilian side. They need to revamp their strategies and approach swiftly before it's too late.

The only way for Brazil to get out of where it is is with players like Neymar, like Ronaldo, Robinho, Roberto Carlos, Dinho, but what did these players do? It's simple, it's Joga Bonito, with Joga Bonito it was playing without rules as if they were on the street, where players had the freedom to do things with the ball as before, since they started playing technically very strict Brazil lost its only ingredient that made them different from the others, I think that if Brazil recovers its essence it will begin to play, they can even put Zidane as coach, who for me is one of the best in the world, but if he doesn't insist that Brazil play like before, then that's it.

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Now we have the former coach of the Brazilian national team available on the market, coach Adenor Leonardo Bachi AKA Tite. He was fired from the Flamengo team for not being able to bring the expected results, perhaps the CBF bringing him back to the team will be able to return to playing some respectable football again because as bad and stubborn as Tite is, he is the face of the Brazilian team.

You mean to tell me a manager who did so poorly at his club that he got fired should be the manager for the nation team? How would that make them any better? Obviously the dude wasn't good at all which caused him to lose his job, so if he joined the national team what guarantee he would do any better? Likely result would be that he will do worse.

I agree, during his tenure at Brazil, they did alright and they won and they were happy, but obviously he may not be the same person and the team may not be the same team so maybe this could be a bad idea. I am not against giving him a try out, firing the current manager would be awesome and they should, but the problem is that if they hire Tite, they won't be firing him anytime soon, they will keep him until end of world cup.

The daily work done at a club is completely different from that done at a national team. Tite was the coach of the Brazilian national team for many, many years, so he is already accustomed to the routine of a national team. At the club, he did poorly, but he did not leave the team in total chaos. He did a below-average job, of course, but nothing as bad as Dorival Junior's work at the helm of the Brazilian national team. Tite had not been in charge of a club for a long time, and I believe he had a lot of difficulty in getting back into the swing of things... Today, thinking about it, the best person to coach the national team today would be to bring back coach Tite, or else try to find a high-level European coach.

You make a fair point about the difference in working routine at a club versus at a national team. It's true that Tite has spent many years coaching the Brazilian national team, which could potentially make him more prepared for the demands of the national team than someone who has only worked at a club level. Your argument about his poor performance at the club not meaning certain failure at a national level is plausible.

But there are also valid concerns raised by the previous poster. Even if we accept that Tite could perform better than he did at his club if given the opportunity to return to the national team, there is no guarantee of this. His recent failure may signal that he is not currently in his optimal form and could translate to a poor performance at the national level too.

You suggested the possibility of hiring a high-level European coach. That's an interesting idea - however, bringing in someone unfamiliar with the culture and style of football in Brazil could also pose its own risks. Likewise, it may not be

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on October 02, 2024, 01:16:52 PM

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The daily work done at a club is completely different from that done at a national team. Tite was the coach of the Brazilian national team for many, many years, so he is already accustomed to the routine of a national team. At the club, he did poorly, but he did not leave the team in total chaos. He did a below-average job, of course, but nothing as bad as Dorival Junior's work at the helm of the Brazilian national team. Tite had not been in charge of a club for a long time, and I believe he had a lot of difficulty in getting back into the swing of things... Today, thinking about it, the best person to coach the national team today would be to bring back coach Tite, or else try to find a high-level European coach.

Yes, absolutely right.

There is a huge difference between playing in your club team and playing for your national team.

Basically it's almost like one is done for the money and the other one is for honor in a way.

I know they get paid in both cases, but clubs usually pay more than national teams, and also you can choose your team, but you can't usually choose your nationality.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on October 01, 2024, 05:32:15 AM

Now we have the former coach of the Brazilian national team available on the market, coach Adenor Leonardo Bachi AKA Tite. He was fired from the Flamengo team for not being able to bring the expected results, perhaps the CBF bringing him back to the team will be able to return to playing some respectable football again because as bad and stubborn as Tite is, he is the face of the Brazilian team.

You mean to tell me a manager who did so poorly at his club that he got fired should be the manager for the nation team? How would that make them any better? Obviously the dude wasn't good at all which caused him to lose his job, so if he joined the national team what guarantee he would do any better? Likely result would be that he will do worse.

I agree, during his tenure at Brazil, they did alright and they won and they were happy, but obviously he may not be the same person and the team may not be the same team so maybe this could be a bad idea. I am not against giving him a try out, firing the current manager would be awesome and they should, but the problem is that if they hire Tite, they won't be firing him anytime soon, they will keep him until end of world cup.

The daily work done at a club is completely different from that done at a national team. Tite was the coach of the Brazilian national team for many, many years, so he is already accustomed to the routine of a national team. At the club, he did poorly, but he did not leave the team in total chaos. He did a below-average job, of course, but nothing as bad as Dorival Junior's work at the helm of the Brazilian national team. Tite had not been in charge of a club for a long time, and I believe he had a lot of difficulty in getting back into the swing of things... Today, thinking about it, the best person to coach the national team today would be to bring back coach Tite, or else try to find a high-level European coach.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on October 01, 2024, 05:32:15 AM

Now we have the former coach of the Brazilian national team available on the market, coach Adenor Leonardo Bachi AKA Tite. He was fired from the Flamengo team for not being able to bring the expected results, perhaps the CBF bringing him back to the team will be able to return to playing some respectable football again because as bad and stubborn as Tite is, he is the face of the Brazilian team.

You mean to tell me a manager who did so poorly at his club that he got fired should be the manager for the nation team? How would that make them any better? Obviously the dude wasn't good at all which caused him to lose his job, so if he joined the national team what guarantee he would do any better? Likely result would be that he will do worse.

I agree, during his tenure at Brazil, they did alright and they won and they were happy, but obviously he may not be the same person and the team may not be the same team so maybe this could be a bad idea. I am not against giving him a try out, firing the current manager would be awesome and they should, but the problem is that if they hire Tite, they won't be firing him anytime soon, they will keep him until end of world cup.

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They have come to 2024 thinking that their country has never had a foreign manager in the past, their native players have served their country, they may not want to come out of that place. But with changing times, the team needs to have the ability to manage smarter, which may not be present in those currently in charge of Brazil. European teams are always doing well so Brazil need a European manager if they want to do well in the World Cup they have to play in a European style.

If Zinedine Zidane is offered I don't think he will turn it down and Zinedine Zidane will definitely be a good manager for Brazil if he takes over.

There is nothing to be done, no European coach wants to face the brazilian national team, the CBF's problem is corruption and making a lot of money by doing the least possible, not even Ancelotti, who is an excellent coach, wanted to be the national team's coach and Brazilian coaches seem to be outdated.

Carlo Ancelotti wanted to join Brazil or we can say they were about to hire this coach for Brazil but they couldn't do that finally in the end and Ancelotti decided to stay in Real Madrid, even I remember when I saw rumors about Ancelotti leaving Real Madrid to Brazil he said he is just waiting for Real Madrid to extend his contract which means he is not interested in leaving Real Madrid. Even the president of Brazil started complaining and he said they won't need to hire a non-Brazilian coach for their team.

True, Ancelotti cancellation from being recruited to become Brazil coach was not because of any problems with the federation or CBF but more likely because of an offer given by Real Madrid to be able to extend the contract because under coach Ancelotti, Real Madrid could show success.
Moreover, Ancelotti would definitely choose Real Madrid over Brazil when both made offers at the same time because with Real Madrid it is clear that he can work well and only needs to continue his performance, unlike when he handled Brazil he had to start from the beginning and it took time to be able to really show development and improvement in playing quality.
What is clear now is that I really can't think and say anything about Brazil regarding the coach problem because the only way is to find European or other coach who clearly has lot of experience, this kind of thing has been talked about lot since several years ago but in reality they still only rely on native coaches from Brazil.
Haha maybe this is about money and it is possible to save costs in bringing in and paying the coach salary.

Ancelotti was interested in taking charge of Brazil and was expected to take charge of the Brazil team after his contract with Real Madrid expired. But Real Madrid did not want to let go of this manager, so they renewed the contract with this manager, due to which Ancelotti could not take charge of Brazil. If Ancelotti had taken charge of the Brazilian team, the situation in Brazil would have really changed and the Brazilian team would have seen the light again. Homegrown managers will not work because Brazil has already vetted every manager and they have not had any good results. There are many well-known managers in Europe and if the CBF doesn't stop trying, some experienced European managers could come to Brazil.

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Quote from: peter0425 on October 02, 2024, 12:39:35 AM

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I am not so familiar with politics within Brazil but it is not unknown that they have one of the greatest athletes in the world. Neymar is definitely a solid proof of this. Winning the world cup will boost the country’s popularity more and attract more fans and tourists to their country. It is global recognition after all.

But I can also see how politics can outweigh these benefits. If everyone is looking out after themselves then there will be no good results for the team. Favoritism and bribery may come in factor here as well as wrong allocation of funds.

Politics and sports are usually intertwined...

This reminded me of Argentina vs England, fighting over the Falkland Islands/Islas Malvinas on every match they have.

Politics is life really, basically a way of living life in particular. It's not some separate thing.

And sports and betting are also tied to politics.

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Well sometimes it becomes very unnecessary to be politicing around issues like this because it's very detrimental to the team much more than the politics will be benefiting to the team and the football federation as a whole

I am not so familiar with politics within Brazil but it is not unknown that they have one of the greatest athletes in the world. Neymar is definitely a solid proof of this. Winning the world cup will boost the country’s popularity more and attract more fans and tourists to their country. It is global recognition after all.

But I can also see how politics can outweigh these benefits. If everyone is looking out after themselves then there will be no good results for the team. Favoritism and bribery may come in factor here as well as wrong allocation of funds.

Yes, I agree with both points made. On one side, sports, particularly football, can significantly contribute to a country's global recognition. A player like Neymar, for instance, can uplift Brazil's image on the international scene. Winning occurrences as such, like the World Cup, can indeed attract more fans and tourists, benefiting the country's tourism industry to a great extent.

Conversely, politics can also adversely impact these benefits. Anything from favoritism and bribery to the misallocation of funds can negatively affect the team's performance and, as a result, the country's image in the global landscape. It is crucial to maintain integrity in the management of sports to ensure its positive contribution to society.

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Quote from: Weawant on September 30, 2024, 08:11:29 AM

Well sometimes it becomes very unnecessary to be politicing around issues like this because it's very detrimental to the team much more than the politics will be benefiting to the team and the football federation as a whole

I am not so familiar with politics within Brazil but it is not unknown that they have one of the greatest athletes in the world. Neymar is definitely a solid proof of this. Winning the world cup will boost the country’s popularity more and attract more fans and tourists to their country. It is global recognition after all.

But I can also see how politics can outweigh these benefits. If everyone is looking out after themselves then there will be no good results for the team. Favoritism and bribery may come in factor here as well as wrong allocation of funds.

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They have come to 2024 thinking that their country has never had a foreign manager in the past, their native players have served their country, they may not want to come out of that place. But with changing times, the team needs to have the ability to manage smarter, which may not be present in those currently in charge of Brazil. European teams are always doing well so Brazil need a European manager if they want to do well in the World Cup they have to play in a European style.

If Zinedine Zidane is offered I don't think he will turn it down and Zinedine Zidane will definitely be a good manager for Brazil if he takes over.

There is nothing to be done, no European coach wants to face the brazilian national team, the CBF's problem is corruption and making a lot of money by doing the least possible, not even Ancelotti, who is an excellent coach, wanted to be the national team's coach and Brazilian coaches seem to be outdated.

Carlo Ancelotti wanted to join Brazil or we can say they were about to hire this coach for Brazil but they couldn't do that finally in the end and Ancelotti decided to stay in Real Madrid, even I remember when I saw rumors about Ancelotti leaving Real Madrid to Brazil he said he is just waiting for Real Madrid to extend his contract which means he is not interested in leaving Real Madrid. Even the president of Brazil started complaining and he said they won't need to hire a non-Brazilian coach for their team.

True, Ancelotti cancellation from being recruited to become Brazil coach was not because of any problems with the federation or CBF but more likely because of an offer given by Real Madrid to be able to extend the contract because under coach Ancelotti, Real Madrid could show success.
Moreover, Ancelotti would definitely choose Real Madrid over Brazil when both made offers at the same time because with Real Madrid it is clear that he can work well and only needs to continue his performance, unlike when he handled Brazil he had to start from the beginning and it took time to be able to really show development and improvement in playing quality.
What is clear now is that I really can't think and say anything about Brazil regarding the coach problem because the only way is to find European or other coach who clearly has lot of experience, this kind of thing has been talked about lot since several years ago but in reality they still only rely on native coaches from Brazil.
Haha maybe this is about money and it is possible to save costs in bringing in and paying the coach salary.

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Quote from: Fiatless on October 01, 2024, 11:21:35 AM

Quote from: criptoevangelista on October 01, 2024, 05:32:15 AM

Now we have the former coach of the Brazilian national team available on the market, coach Adenor Leonardo Bachi AKA Tite. He was fired from the Flamengo team for not being able to bring the expected results, perhaps the CBF bringing him back to the team will be able to return to playing some respectable football again because as bad and stubborn as Tite is, he is the face of the Brazilian team.

Flamengo had to sack him for poor performance. The club is currently in fourth place in the Brazilian Championship. They have also been knocked out of the Copa Libertadores after losing in the quarterfinals to Uruguay’s Peñarol.

Adenor Leonardo Bachiis is not a new face on the national team; he worked with the team from 2016 to December 2022. He led them to win the 2019 Copa América, but he left the national team after the disappointing outing in the 2022 FIFA World Cup when they lost on penalties against Croatia. I don't think he would make any impact on the team, considering his recent statistics. The Brazilian national team needs an experienced foreign coach.

I agree with you, to solve the problem of the Brazilian national team, only a foreign coach with a lot of experience can solve it. The problem is which coach? I don't think any elite coach in European football would accept the proposal to coach the Brazilian national team... and in Brazil there aren't many names left, they're all very bad. The situation of the Brazilian national team is desperate.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 30, 2024, 01:52:16 PM

Quote from: bitcoin_mining on September 30, 2024, 12:41:24 AM

They have come to 2024 thinking that their country has never had a foreign manager in the past, their native players have served their country, they may not want to come out of that place. But with changing times, the team needs to have the ability to manage smarter, which may not be present in those currently in charge of Brazil. European teams are always doing well so Brazil need a European manager if they want to do well in the World Cup they have to play in a European style.

If Zinedine Zidane is offered I don't think he will turn it down and Zinedine Zidane will definitely be a good manager for Brazil if he takes over.

There is nothing to be done, no European coach wants to face the brazilian national team, the CBF's problem is corruption and making a lot of money by doing the least possible, not even Ancelotti, who is an excellent coach, wanted to be the national team's coach and Brazilian coaches seem to be outdated.

Football plays a big role in Brazil's economy. Based on football they manage to bring huge amount of money to their country every year and as far as I know CBF is a football federation more corrupt than any other football organization. But even if they commit corruption, they have to remember that if their team performs poorly on a regular basis, they will have no room for corruption. The European manager must come but he must be given freedom and the European manager must give certain conditions to Brazil before taking charge of Brazil. If Brazil can accept these terms, their fortunes may change. I think if Brazil don't change their manager they can't do any better.

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