FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 31.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on November 15, 2024, 07:49:45 AM

Japan is leading the game with two nil against Indonesia. They're burried Indonesia's chance to finish at the top 3. I meant, Indonesia must beat Japan to qualify for the next round. But, things are not going well for them. Japan is too good to be beaten by Indonesia. The result is clearly showing how big the gap between Japan and Indonesia.

Just like what I expect, Japan is leading 3 goals now.

There's no chance for Indonesia to beat Japan, they also will not able to qualify for Champions League too, they have match against Saudi Arabia, Australia, Bahrain, China and Japan again, they can only win against Bahrain.

Let's go Mitoma, score one goal for me.

Group C currently is most interesting as we already have Japan into World Cup 2026 with from Australia or Saudi Arab one will be joined them for second spot, but now we have the best part for second team to be in fourth stage of qualifier because Indonesia hosting Bahrain and China is good for their chances.

In round 6, we will be having few interesting games while Saudi Arab will visit Indonesia, Bahrain will host Australia and China will be host Japan these matches are going to be had huge impact on league table because games can go either way specially while we have Bahrain vs Australia and Indonesia vs Saudi Arab with China vs Japan is going to be one-sided affair with the current quality of Japan.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 15, 2024, 08:46:48 AM

Quote from: Uruhara on November 15, 2024, 08:19:36 AM

Well, Indonesia played more bravely in the first half and initially everything went quite well. And several times Japan was also cornered. Indonesia also succeeded in obtaining several good opportunities, although they failed to take advantage of them. But we are no longer surprised when we see the Indonesian national team players who will weaken mentally after the opponent manages to break into their goal.

I don't know how, but things like this are commonplace. And now Japan has also managed to score the third goal. And yes, more goals could happen if Indonesia doesn't improve this situation immediately. The most important thing is that they have to restore the enthusiasm they had at the start of the first half.

Now Japan is leading by 4 goals, Indonesia is not playing very badly, but anyway we know how far the two are in the FIFA ranking. Japan's player control ability is superior and we can see it when Japanese players move with the ball. However Japanese players have more experience here, and many have played in Europe, although the same thing is on Indonesia's side, I think the quality of the players is a little different.

If you were watching this match you can see the difference of quality between Indonesia and Japan and in this match Japan players were playing with very discipline and there was no mistakes which made by them even Japan players totally dominate the match and this makes Indonesia players looks difficult to develop the game and the scores is not change that Japan won with the final scores 4-0

Japan certainly in the comfortable situation because they can collect 13 points from 5 matches so most likely Japan will be qualified to the next round and Indonesia situation is very hard because their position currently at the bottom of Group standing and if they want to qualified i think win result is mandatory from Saudi Arabia which this is also very hard for them because based on head to head statistics Indonesia has poor records too from Saudi Arabia

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Quote from: bering on November 14, 2024, 04:52:05 PM

China has just open their chances to advances to the next round because today they dramatically can win from Bahrain with the final score 1-0 and during the match the tension is very high this because Bahrain as a host can pressed China and Bahrain too can able to dominate the match and this proven from their statistics that Bahrain has 71% ball possessions but these records is useless because they have to lost from this match and for China i think they are fantastic because after suffering 3 losing streak China can able to bounce back and now they can collect 6 points from 5 matches total

Initially I thought that the surprise in this qualifying round would be Indonesia, because in the previous match Indonesia managed to hold strong Asian teams to a draw. They managed to hold Saudi Arabia, Australia, and Bahrain to a draw, but unfortunately after drawing 3 matches in a row, Indonesia lost the next 2 matches against China and Japan.

The surprise came from the Chinese National Team, they were a team that was doubted in this qualification, because in the previous match they experienced three consecutive defeats. The team that was initially considered a bottom team and a goal barn, actually rose again beyond expectations, because after getting the defeat, China managed to get 2 consecutive wins, they got the results when they faced Indonesia, and yesterday when they played against Bahrain.

And being able to beat Bahrain at the Bahrain national stadium is an extraordinary result, because usually when Bahrain plays at home they will show a lot of drama.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 15, 2024, 08:46:48 AM

Now Japan is leading by 4 goals, Indonesia is not playing very badly, but anyway we know how far the two are in the FIFA ranking. Japan's player control ability is superior and we can see it when Japanese players move with the ball. However Japanese players have more experience here, and many have played in Europe, although the same thing is on Indonesia's side, I think the quality of the players is a little different.

Japan's quality in soccer and into their products they have never compromise on them 19 goals in just 5 games is insane with conceded only 1 goal against Australia.

In Asia, we have them the toughest soccer team today result were much expected because Indonesia is not strong enough team they are under development and need more time for having better results and consistency after this game now their chances are more down because they are at the bottom of group stage, and they have to play against Saudi Arab after few days which is currently at the third spot and looking for automatic qualification after the end of third stage which is not easy if they will not beat Indonesia in coming game in Indonesia.

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Quote from: Out of mind on November 15, 2024, 09:53:44 AM

Japan has achieved a great victory against Indonesia, Japan won by a margin of 0–4 goals. We have seen that Japan is the strongest team in Group C, and they have not lost a single match so far, but are an undefeated team, with 13 points. Currently, Japan's players are very strong, and their performance has improved. They have played exceptionally well in every match. Especially in today's match, the game they saw against Indonesia is much higher, I think the Japanese team will definitely be in a good position. In today's match, Indonesia tried hard but could not score a goal because they were unable to break through Japan's strong defense and Indonesia lost.

The difference in strength between the two teams is very far even though Indonesia played at home and received full support from the fans but that alone was not enough to benefit Indonesia, they had to admit this crushing defeat, Japan is indeed the top team in the Asian zone, they are good at defending and attacking, even in 5 matches they only conceded one goal. In my opinion Japan will have no trouble getting a ticket to the world cup even though there are several matches that have not been played I think they will easily finish it.

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Japan has achieved a great victory against Indonesia, Japan won by a margin of 0–4 goals. We have seen that Japan is the strongest team in Group C, and they have not lost a single match so far, but are an undefeated team, with 13 points. Currently, Japan's players are very strong, and their performance has improved. They have played exceptionally well in every match. Especially in today's match, the game they saw against Indonesia is much higher, I think the Japanese team will definitely be in a good position. In today's match, Indonesia tried hard but could not score a goal because they were unable to break through Japan's strong defense and Indonesia lost.

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Quote from: alegotardo on November 15, 2024, 09:17:49 AM

In fact, the result could only have been favorable to Japan, but I confess that this defeat took even me by surprise.

Indonesia came into the match looking to recover in Group C, as without any victories until now they were already occupying the penultimate position with only three points in four games so far. They had even shown some offensive potential in their draws against Saudi Arabia and Australia, but lost steam with the recent defeat to China, despite dominating the match.

Japan, in turn, already leading Group C, has a solid sequence of victories and has impressed both in attack and defense, scoring 15 goals and conceding only one (not counting today's goals). Despite a recent setback in drawing with Australia, the Blue Samurai remain firm in the fight to qualify for the eighth consecutive World Cup.

Unbelievable with Indonesia teams have poor performance when defeating by Japan over 4-0 last few minutes ago, have new players aboard Kevin Diks can't help Indonesia to get first three points after five consecutives match without winning yet. Firstly Indonesia have good attempt when Ragnar Oratmangoen have face to face with Japan goal keeper but failure for scoring goal, without victories of five consecutives matches make Indonesia have dropped to bottom standings position awhile but have advantage the second standings teams position have three points remaining awhile.

Japan surely will qualify to World Cup 2026 after leading the first standings behind 13 points and have 7 points remaining with the 2nd team standing position, just securing few matches later Japan automatically will qualify without waiting until the last qualifying match. Wish Indonesian can recovery their performance for upcoming match against Saudi Arabia and win the first match in qualifying.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 15, 2024, 08:46:48 AM

Now Japan is leading by 4 goals, Indonesia is not playing very badly, but anyway we know how far the two are in the FIFA ranking. Japan's player control ability is superior and we can see it when Japanese players move with the ball. However Japanese players have more experience here, and many have played in Europe, although the same thing is on Indonesia's side, I think the quality of the players is a little different.

In fact, the result could only have been favorable to Japan, but I confess that this defeat took even me by surprise.

Indonesia came into the match looking to recover in Group C, as without any victories until now they were already occupying the penultimate position with only three points in four games so far. They had even shown some offensive potential in their draws against Saudi Arabia and Australia, but lost steam with the recent defeat to China, despite dominating the match.

Japan, in turn, already leading Group C, has a solid sequence of victories and has impressed both in attack and defense, scoring 15 goals and conceding only one (not counting today's goals). Despite a recent setback in drawing with Australia, the Blue Samurai remain firm in the fight to qualify for the eighth consecutive World Cup.

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Quote from: Uruhara on November 15, 2024, 08:19:36 AM

Well, Indonesia played more bravely in the first half and initially everything went quite well. And several times Japan was also cornered. Indonesia also succeeded in obtaining several good opportunities, although they failed to take advantage of them. But we are no longer surprised when we see the Indonesian national team players who will weaken mentally after the opponent manages to break into their goal.

I don't know how, but things like this are commonplace. And now Japan has also managed to score the third goal. And yes, more goals could happen if Indonesia doesn't improve this situation immediately. The most important thing is that they have to restore the enthusiasm they had at the start of the first half.

Now Japan is leading by 4 goals, Indonesia is not playing very badly, but anyway we know how far the two are in the FIFA ranking. Japan's player control ability is superior and we can see it when Japanese players move with the ball. However Japanese players have more experience here, and many have played in Europe, although the same thing is on Indonesia's side, I think the quality of the players is a little different.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on November 15, 2024, 07:49:45 AM

Japan is leading the game with two nil against Indonesia. They're burried Indonesia's chance to finish at the top 3. I meant, Indonesia must beat Japan to qualify for the next round. But, things are not going well for them. Japan is too good to be beaten by Indonesia. The result is clearly showing how big the gap between Japan and Indonesia.

The difference in strength between the Indonesian national team and the Japanese national team is very different. So it seems that Indonesia's defeat in this match was expected by everyone. Even though Indonesian supporters hope that Indonesia can make a surprise, but with the difference in strength and quality, everything is difficult to happen. And now Japan has even scored its fourth goal against Indonesia. And it seems that it is no longer possible for Indonesia to reverse the situation. And yes, Indonesia's hopes of progressing further seem to end from here. Because in the next matches, Indonesia will have opponents who are stronger than Indonesia itself. In fact, Indonesia's success at this stage seems to have been a surprise to everyone.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on November 15, 2024, 07:49:45 AM

Japan is leading the game with two nil against Indonesia. They're burried Indonesia's chance to finish at the top 3. I meant, Indonesia must beat Japan to qualify for the next round. But, things are not going well for them. Japan is too good to be beaten by Indonesia. The result is clearly showing how big the gap between Japan and Indonesia.

Just like what I expect, Japan is leading 3 goals now.

There's no chance for Indonesia to beat Japan, they also will not able to qualify for Champions League too, they have match against Saudi Arabia, Australia, Bahrain, China and Japan again, they can only win against Bahrain.

Let's go Mitoma, score one goal for me.

Quote from: Plaguedeath on November 13, 2024, 04:12:01 AM

Anyway, how many goals Japan will score? I think at least 3 goals.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 15, 2024, 07:44:47 AM

Quote from: Uruhara on November 15, 2024, 07:18:02 AM

I also hope that there will be a miracle in this match that will bring Indonesia to score points. And I almost couldn't believe that at the start of the match Indonesia already had a golden opportunity to almost break through the Japanese national team's goal. But unfortunately the Indonesian players failed to take advantage of it and this golden opportunity ended up being wasted. And I think it's quite difficult to get the same opportunities.

And now I see another opportunity coming. And again Indonesia failed to take advantage of it. It seems like Indonesia really lacks good players in their attack line. Because they can always create good opportunities through counterattacks. but unfortunately it always fails to be utilized properly.

There is something positive shown from Indonesia's game this time when facing Japan. They did not play defensively even though they faced Japan's strong game. Indonesia got several opportunities as did Japan. and now Japan got its first goal in the 35th minute and the 2nd goal in the 40th minute. a really difficult match for Indonesia when they experienced a decline in the game after the first goal. Indonesia must be able to change its game scheme to be able to be more daring to play attacking. If not, maybe there will only be more goals in their goal.

Well, Indonesia played more bravely in the first half and initially everything went quite well. And several times Japan was also cornered. Indonesia also succeeded in obtaining several good opportunities, although they failed to take advantage of them. But we are no longer surprised when we see the Indonesian national team players who will weaken mentally after the opponent manages to break into their goal.

I don't know how, but things like this are commonplace. And now Japan has also managed to score the third goal. And yes, more goals could happen if Indonesia doesn't improve this situation immediately. The most important thing is that they have to restore the enthusiasm they had at the start of the first half.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on November 15, 2024, 03:11:50 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 13, 2024, 05:55:38 PM

How in the world someone can hope to see Japan lose this match to get a draw?
We know Japan is one of the strongest teams in Asia and they are enough good players for their team. Also, they have good teamwork which made this team look much better than a team like Indonesia. I'm not saying Indonesia is a bad team and they are surely can try to get the best result in this match but don't forget Indonesia even lost the game against China while China was not in the good form.

Don't be too diplomatic, there's nothing wrong if you want to say Indonesia is the worst team, because that's the truth. Japan is ready with their best eleven, there's nothing need to worry for Japan, even they want to underestimate Indonesia or play with B class lineup, they still gonna win the match.

China is better than Indonesia though, they might don't have players who played in Europa, but they have chemistry, winning spirit and never give up.

Japan is leading the game with two nil against Indonesia. They're burried Indonesia's chance to finish at the top 3. I meant, Indonesia must beat Japan to qualify for the next round. But, things are not going well for them. Japan is too good to be beaten by Indonesia. The result is clearly showing how big the gap between Japan and Indonesia.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on November 15, 2024, 06:45:04 AM

I think hoping to see our team win or get a draw is not wrong. Because it's just a hope, not a prediction. It's different if we predict that Indonesia will be able to beat Japan, then that is really difficult to accept. Because we as Indonesians also realize how different our team is in strength from all the teams in Group C, especially Japan. You just look at the ranking of the Indonesian national team in Fifa, and in fact it has been a miracle for us to be able to hold many of the much better national teams to a draw so far in Group C. And losing to China is also a normal and acceptable thing. So we will still not feel disappointed if the Indonesian national team loses to Japan. because that is a very normal thing. But there's still nothing wrong with hoping that a miracle will come and bring the Indonesian national team to at least a draw. Even though it seems like it's really difficult and it's hard to believe, even hard to hope for.

I also hope that there will be a miracle in this match that will bring Indonesia to score points. And I almost couldn't believe that at the start of the match Indonesia already had a golden opportunity to almost break through the Japanese national team's goal. But unfortunately the Indonesian players failed to take advantage of it and this golden opportunity ended up being wasted. And I think it's quite difficult to get the same opportunities.

And now I see another opportunity coming. And again Indonesia failed to take advantage of it. It seems like Indonesia really lacks good players in their attack line. Because they can always create good opportunities through counterattacks. but unfortunately it always fails to be utilized properly.

There is something positive shown from Indonesia's game this time when facing Japan. They did not play defensively even though they faced Japan's strong game. Indonesia got several opportunities as did Japan. and now Japan got its first goal in the 35th minute and the 2nd goal in the 40th minute. a really difficult match for Indonesia when they experienced a decline in the game after the first goal. Indonesia must be able to change its game scheme to be able to be more daring to play attacking. If not, maybe there will only be more goals in their goal.

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Quote from: uneng on November 15, 2024, 07:39:09 AM

Japan has a solid history of participations in World Cups, but they never managed to reach too far on the competition. They are one of the best national teams from Asia, but when compared to the European and South American national teams, they end not being so competitive. The strongest teams are still the European and South American ones. They are the most likely to win the competition in 2026.

Japan is well know for displaying disciplined, organized, methodical and obedient traits. However, in soccer you also need some creativity, play by ear and authenticity to surprise the adversary and advance in the field. That is what they lack, I suppose. At same time, it's admirable to see how organized Japan's plays are during the matches.

Japan always displays a disciplined game. They always make small passes with small touches which always make it difficult for the opponent. And we know that at the World Cup we always see Japan making things quite difficult for the opposing team. So even though currently I am watching the Indonesia vs Japan match and I support Japan. But I'm always entertained by the Japanese way of playing. They even just scored 1 goal very elegantly. Well, now Indonesia is 1 goal behind. and maybe Japan will add another goal. Because in quality there is a clear difference.

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Japan has a solid history of participations in World Cups, but they never managed to reach too far on the competition. They are one of the best national teams from Asia, but when compared to the European and South American national teams, they end not being so competitive. The strongest teams are still the European and South American ones. They are the most likely to win the competition in 2026.

Japan is well know for displaying disciplined, organized, methodical and obedient traits. However, in soccer you also need some creativity, play by ear and authenticity to surprise the adversary and advance in the field. That is what they lack, I suppose. At same time, it's admirable to see how organized Japan's plays are during the matches.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on November 15, 2024, 06:45:04 AM

I think hoping to see our team win or get a draw is not wrong. Because it's just a hope, not a prediction. It's different if we predict that Indonesia will be able to beat Japan, then that is really difficult to accept. Because we as Indonesians also realize how different our team is in strength from all the teams in Group C, especially Japan. You just look at the ranking of the Indonesian national team in Fifa, and in fact it has been a miracle for us to be able to hold many of the much better national teams to a draw so far in Group C. And losing to China is also a normal and acceptable thing. So we will still not feel disappointed if the Indonesian national team loses to Japan. because that is a very normal thing. But there's still nothing wrong with hoping that a miracle will come and bring the Indonesian national team to at least a draw. Even though it seems like it's really difficult and it's hard to believe, even hard to hope for.

I also hope that there will be a miracle in this match that will bring Indonesia to score points. And I almost couldn't believe that at the start of the match Indonesia already had a golden opportunity to almost break through the Japanese national team's goal. But unfortunately the Indonesian players failed to take advantage of it and this golden opportunity ended up being wasted. And I think it's quite difficult to get the same opportunities.

And now I see another opportunity coming. And again Indonesia failed to take advantage of it. It seems like Indonesia really lacks good players in their attack line. Because they can always create good opportunities through counterattacks. but unfortunately it always fails to be utilized properly.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on November 15, 2024, 06:45:04 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 13, 2024, 05:55:38 PM

How in the world someone can hope to see Japan lose this match to get a draw?
We know Japan is one of the strongest teams in Asia and they are enough good players for their team. Also, they have good teamwork which made this team look much better than a team like Indonesia. I'm not saying Indonesia is a bad team and they are surely can try to get the best result in this match but don't forget Indonesia even lost the game against China while China was not in the good form.

I think hoping to see our team win or get a draw is not wrong. Because it's just a hope, not a prediction. It's different if we predict that Indonesia will be able to beat Japan, then that is really difficult to accept. Because we as Indonesians also realize how different our team is in strength from all the teams in Group C, especially Japan. You just look at the ranking of the Indonesian national team in Fifa, and in fact it has been a miracle for us to be able to hold many of the much better national teams to a draw so far in Group C. And losing to China is also a normal and acceptable thing. So we will still not feel disappointed if the Indonesian national team loses to Japan. because that is a very normal thing. But there's still nothing wrong with hoping that a miracle will come and bring the Indonesian national team to at least a draw. Even though it seems like it's really difficult and it's hard to believe, even hard to hope for.

Indonesia's current weakness is its attack line. Their defenders are quite strong so far. But they don't have a striker who I think is quite dangerous. Most of the strikers they have are not strong enough to control the ball and very often lose the ball when dueling with opposing defenders. I hope they will perform well even though they are facing a strong Japanese team. It's not an easy match for Indonesia, they have to work hard for a positive result. Hopefully, they will play well with the extraordinary support of the fans.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 13, 2024, 05:55:38 PM

How in the world someone can hope to see Japan lose this match to get a draw?
We know Japan is one of the strongest teams in Asia and they are enough good players for their team. Also, they have good teamwork which made this team look much better than a team like Indonesia. I'm not saying Indonesia is a bad team and they are surely can try to get the best result in this match but don't forget Indonesia even lost the game against China while China was not in the good form.

I think hoping to see our team win or get a draw is not wrong. Because it's just a hope, not a prediction. It's different if we predict that Indonesia will be able to beat Japan, then that is really difficult to accept. Because we as Indonesians also realize how different our team is in strength from all the teams in Group C, especially Japan. You just look at the ranking of the Indonesian national team in Fifa, and in fact it has been a miracle for us to be able to hold many of the much better national teams to a draw so far in Group C. And losing to China is also a normal and acceptable thing. So we will still not feel disappointed if the Indonesian national team loses to Japan. because that is a very normal thing. But there's still nothing wrong with hoping that a miracle will come and bring the Indonesian national team to at least a draw. Even though it seems like it's really difficult and it's hard to believe, even hard to hope for.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 13, 2024, 05:55:38 PM

How in the world someone can hope to see Japan lose this match to get a draw?
We know Japan is one of the strongest teams in Asia and they are enough good players for their team. Also, they have good teamwork which made this team look much better than a team like Indonesia. I'm not saying Indonesia is a bad team and they are surely can try to get the best result in this match but don't forget Indonesia even lost the game against China while China was not in the good form.

Don't be too diplomatic, there's nothing wrong if you want to say Indonesia is the worst team, because that's the truth. Japan is ready with their best eleven, there's nothing need to worry for Japan, even they want to underestimate Indonesia or play with B class lineup, they still gonna win the match.

China is better than Indonesia though, they might don't have players who played in Europa, but they have chemistry, winning spirit and never give up.

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