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In any organization there is corruption and that's something normal for any country not just Brazil. But I think since they have many people there they think they should have a Brazilian coach they will choose the coach from Brazil while this can make Brazil a weak team because they can't think about many other coaches in the world. Also In Brazil, tradition is something important and that's why they think they have better coaches than all other countries in the world.
On the other hand, Brazil just wants to have superstar players like Neymar and Vini but they can't have good teamwork without these players.
Soccer is no more traditional game with many changes already happen and few more are going to bring things more exciting for the soccer fans so now it's time for organizations to bring changes as well which improve their quality and also having better results with consistency.


Agree with this at 100% now soccer is much about tactics statistics and more math things, is not more a dancing or a natural play. Its become more and more similar to the FUTSAL games, were you have super skillfull players but when you see a game is boring because they are super atached to the optimal game which is pure tactics, and BRazilian are not so good in the discipline so this is  new football is not good for them.
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In any organization there is corruption and that's something normal for any country not just Brazil. But I think since they have many people there they think they should have a Brazilian coach they will choose the coach from Brazil while this can make Brazil a weak team because they can't think about many other coaches in the world. Also In Brazil, tradition is something important and that's why they think they have better coaches than all other countries in the world.
On the other hand, Brazil just wants to have superstar players like Neymar and Vini but they can't have good teamwork without these players.
Soccer is no more traditional game with many changes already happen and few more are going to bring things more exciting for the soccer fans so now it's time for organizations to bring changes as well which improve their quality and also having better results with consistency.

In Brazilian soccer, we are having many big cooperation are also involved which are having their interest and just because of these things are getting the worst day by day quality is problem with too many stars are available, but they are not able to perform as team because things are not favourable for them to have right players on right places.

Neymar is hyped player with many new generation players are having good quality, but they are not able to perform as they needed which is completely coaching fault they need creative coach who can bring good technique and also having good depth in players as well for me Zidane or Carlos Ancelotti can do changes, but both are not ready to go there due to personal reasons.
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Corruption is not related at all with this bad run of the Brazilian football team, in such high level of nationals teams this doesnt have anything to do with what happen with the federation.

Brazil is for a long time in this not so good shape, its not new.
Of course there is, there is a kind of mafia of call-ups, some players who are well below average are called up to the national team based on the payment of bribes by their agents, the CBF is extremely corrupt and its former presidents have even been convicted and sent to jail. The entire problem with the Brazilian national team is a problem of mismanagement, terrible coaches and corruption in the CBF.
Didn't that happen last year, it should be lesson for the current administrators who are handling Brazil football, especially the Brazil national team, to really fix it properly and prioritize serious development so that it is not only about money.
But this is what happened to Brazil in the last few years, there was a lot of manipulation and also allegations of bribery by the administrators, it is very unfortunate that Brazil, which is filled with stars and young potential, has to suffer and is like being shackled by its officials.
I don't think we will really be able to see Brazil clean in the near future or we can say Brazil that is really being fostered and directed on the right path and trying to return to how it was few decades ago when they were the strongest and always dominated several major competitions such as the World Cup or Copa America.

There's no point in doing so anymore. I don't think the Brazilian national team will ever return to the good old days of great titles. Corruption is so ingrained in the highest authority in Brazilian football that it's practically impossible to end it. I believe this was the main reason why Carlo Ancelotti turned down the invitation to be coach. After all, what renowned coach wouldn't love to coach the greatest national team in the world? He would only refuse for obscure reasons or interference in his work. It's very sad to see what's happening to the team. It's going to be very difficult for them to overcome this with the current management model of the CBF.

Well what do you expect, the nation itself is among the top which is corrupted in the world and same thing happen here too in my own nation because corruption has eaten it up deeply and there are so many wrongs on going that makes it difficult for the glory of the team to be seen. For some reason they still have all the players and quality but corruption has made it so deep that those who are qualified to play aren't called and vice versa.
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Corruption has the potency of destroying anything. Even with all the talents and world-class footballers if the Brazilian Football Federation is corrupt, the team will struggle to succeed. Corruption will affect player selections since some top government officials will want to influence the coach. The coach will be forced to choose unqualified or, in some cases, injured players instead of picking the best.

Dishonesty will also affect funding because the money allocated to the club might be diverted to personal pockets or accounts. Players' welfare will be reduced, and sometimes their bonuses will either be delayed or withheld. This can demotivate the players and make them perform poorly. Corruption could also lead to disunity among the players. Some players who are backed by powerful FA officials might not respect camping rules and might also disrespect coaches and other players. I know the Brazilian national team suffered from political interference and I guess it affected them negatively.
No one could be disagreed with you about this because we all know Brazil is big country with too many problems and political instability is having huge impact on them as well in last few decades we are having serious downfall into their soccer quality even they are still producing one of the best players around the world, but we are having issues in selections and many other factors as many big companies are also involved in few things which are creating problems, and they are going down badly.

They need to work on their domestic setup which can give them a lot of big players and also good leading players as well which are currently no available, and they are suffering even they are having good funds and things are still manageable but due to few rules they are not able to bring quality coaches which can bring revolutionary changes which are essential for their survival in near future if they fail to bring changes then surely we can have the worst things are coming in next few years which can give them huge setback as well.
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Corruption is not related at all with this bad run of the Brazilian football team, in such high level of nationals teams this doesnt have anything to do with what happen with the federation.

Brazil is for a long time in this not so good shape, its not new.
Of course there is, there is a kind of mafia of call-ups, some players who are well below average are called up to the national team based on the payment of bribes by their agents, the CBF is extremely corrupt and its former presidents have even been convicted and sent to jail. The entire problem with the Brazilian national team is a problem of mismanagement, terrible coaches and corruption in the CBF.
Didn't that happen last year, it should be lesson for the current administrators who are handling Brazil football, especially the Brazil national team, to really fix it properly and prioritize serious development so that it is not only about money.
But this is what happened to Brazil in the last few years, there was a lot of manipulation and also allegations of bribery by the administrators, it is very unfortunate that Brazil, which is filled with stars and young potential, has to suffer and is like being shackled by its officials.
I don't think we will really be able to see Brazil clean in the near future or we can say Brazil that is really being fostered and directed on the right path and trying to return to how it was few decades ago when they were the strongest and always dominated several major competitions such as the World Cup or Copa America.

There's no point in doing so anymore. I don't think the Brazilian national team will ever return to the good old days of great titles. Corruption is so ingrained in the highest authority in Brazilian football that it's practically impossible to end it. I believe this was the main reason why Carlo Ancelotti turned down the invitation to be coach. After all, what renowned coach wouldn't love to coach the greatest national team in the world? He would only refuse for obscure reasons or interference in his work. It's very sad to see what's happening to the team. It's going to be very difficult for them to overcome this with the current management model of the CBF.
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Unfortunately, Brazil national team have much problem right now for the CONMEBOL qualifying matches after having poor performance and their position have small points left from other teams with one points remaining from Bolivia on 8th placed.
Unpredictable what happen with Brazil national team having poor performance in CONMEBOL qualifier round, won 3 of 8 matches bad result for Brazil keep their opportunity if want directly qualifying to World Cup 2026 or have finish on 7th place but have playoff round match.

Brazil national team have many youth talented players and most of their players become important players for European team, I think tactician of Brazil national team could be problem make  Brazil have inconsistent performance in qualifying match or CBF need to find new manager keep their opportunity get qualify to World Cup 2026.
They do need to win every game left to provide something to fans. To be fair it is fine even if they do not go to World Cup this way at all, because right now they suck and looking terrible and because of that I think it's clear that we are going to see them fail at world cup and be terrible as well. This is why I think not going is even better, sure that would be a disappointment not going which could be first time I can remember, I don't know when was the last time they didn't even go, but if they go and do terrible and lose all their games at group stages then why even go?

This is why they should not even go and fire the manager and make some big changes, that way they would be doing fine and they would be able to actually make some solid changes. You need a shock to the system sometimes to be better and this could be their shock, that way they will have to accept that something is wrong and that would be a great situation for them to change everything.
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-snip- I know the Brazilian national team suffered from political interference and I guess it affected them negatively.
Making football a part of politics is a very bad thing especially for a team like Brazil. It is very unfortunate when politics takes over Brazilian football. They are a team that almost never fails to qualify for the world cup every edition. They are ranked 5th in the conmebol zone and they have more defeats than wins. Corruption can really destroy the Brazilian national team. I see Brazilian players struggling without the support of their football federation. There are rumors about some players who were called up because they have connections in the government. Only famous players like Vini, Endrick, or Rodrygo have no issues and are indeed worthy of being called up.
I can't judge another country football team but I can use my country team as example to any other country football team which is suffering in the hands of corrupt leadership and management. And what is happening in Brazil is happening to many countries in the world. And the following are some of the factors making the country teams to perform poorly in the international football games.
1. Corrupt Management. The money set aside for the development of the club would be shared among leaders and the amount which would have used to pay the players too would be reduced.
2. Nepotism: bringing neighbors, friends children and family members to the football team even though they can't play football.
3. Poor Skillful Coach: When the coach is not good and skillful to train the players and have no clue of selecting players then there will be a problem in that team. And all those factors are faced by many countries football teams.

Definitely right, You said about three main reasons of why Brazil hasn't had good performance recently but don't forget these two factors are what we can see in any country and corrupted management system in the world is what we can see in any country but the fact about Brazil is about their government. Unfortunately, the main reason is their government won't fight with this corruption and instead of that they just keep supporting the people who manage the national team.  
That's why I think the main reason for Brazil is having a corrupt government.
I didn't personalised Brazil in the case discussion from the previous comment and stated it clearly there. But used my country experience to reach other countries that having the same thing. And one thing you have to know is that, the Government can't remove those corrupt leaders from the National Football Team because they were strong supporters for the election and he used that to patronised them. And now they are part of the decision making committee in the parliament so it will be very difficult for the government to replacement them unless a protest from the players of the fans.

What are the factors of corrupt government.
1. When the government is not doing what supposed do to help the people from poverty and inflation (weak institutions)
2. poor representatives. Those who supposed speak for the citizens, masses and the poor are in support of the government. And examples of such poor representatives are. The National House Assembly, The Judiciary and the Law Enforcement Agencies, and the constitution is abandoned.
3. Nepotism: when the government has been taken as a family affair. That is all key positions in the government are from the president family.
4. And other Micro-Economic deficiencies are left to the faith of the poor to suffer. Then no public institutions can do well in anything again because all what they do is for the benefit of the members of the parliament and not the people in the public.

I can recalled when Brazil government was good without corruption to this level, the National Football Team was doing well both locally and internationally but things changed probably when the government was changed. And those leaders are not bothered even though the team is n bad shape and all they want is their monthly pay and other allowances. But when good leadership take over things will come back to good again.
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-snip- I know the Brazilian national team suffered from political interference and I guess it affected them negatively.
Making football a part of politics is a very bad thing especially for a team like Brazil. It is very unfortunate when politics takes over Brazilian football. They are a team that almost never fails to qualify for the world cup every edition. They are ranked 5th in the conmebol zone and they have more defeats than wins. Corruption can really destroy the Brazilian national team. I see Brazilian players struggling without the support of their football federation. There are rumors about some players who were called up because they have connections in the government. Only famous players like Vini, Endrick, or Rodrygo have no issues and are indeed worthy of being called up.
I can't judge another country football team but I can use my country team as example to any other country football team which is suffering in the hands of corrupt leadership and management. And what is happening in Brazil is happening to many countries in the world. And the following are some of the factors making the country teams to perform poorly in the international football games.
1. Corrupt Management. The money set aside for the development of the club would be shared among leaders and the amount which would have used to pay the players too would be reduced.
2. Nepotism: bringing neighbors, friends children and family members to the football team even though they can't play football.
3. Poor Skillful Coach: When the coach is not good and skillful to train the players and have no clue of selecting players then there will be a problem in that team. And all those factors are faced by many countries football teams.

Definitely right, You said about three main reasons of why Brazil hasn't had good performance recently but don't forget these two factors are what we can see in any country and corrupted management system in the world is what we can see in any country but the fact about Brazil is about their government. Unfortunately, the main reason is their government won't fight with this corruption and instead of that they just keep supporting the people who manage the national team.  
That's why I think the main reason for Brazil is having a corrupt government.
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Corruption is not related at all with this bad run of the Brazilian football team, in such high level of nationals teams this doesnt have anything to do with what happen with the federation.

Brazil is for a long time in this not so good shape, its not new.
Of course there is, there is a kind of mafia of call-ups, some players who are well below average are called up to the national team based on the payment of bribes by their agents, the CBF is extremely corrupt and its former presidents have even been convicted and sent to jail. The entire problem with the Brazilian national team is a problem of mismanagement, terrible coaches and corruption in the CBF.
Didn't that happen last year, it should be lesson for the current administrators who are handling Brazil football, especially the Brazil national team, to really fix it properly and prioritize serious development so that it is not only about money.
But this is what happened to Brazil in the last few years, there was a lot of manipulation and also allegations of bribery by the administrators, it is very unfortunate that Brazil, which is filled with stars and young potential, has to suffer and is like being shackled by its officials.
I don't think we will really be able to see Brazil clean in the near future or we can say Brazil that is really being fostered and directed on the right path and trying to return to how it was few decades ago when they were the strongest and always dominated several major competitions such as the World Cup or Copa America.
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-snip- I know the Brazilian national team suffered from political interference and I guess it affected them negatively.
Making football a part of politics is a very bad thing especially for a team like Brazil. It is very unfortunate when politics takes over Brazilian football. They are a team that almost never fails to qualify for the world cup every edition. They are ranked 5th in the conmebol zone and they have more defeats than wins. Corruption can really destroy the Brazilian national team. I see Brazilian players struggling without the support of their football federation. There are rumors about some players who were called up because they have connections in the government. Only famous players like Vini, Endrick, or Rodrygo have no issues and are indeed worthy of being called up.
I can't judge another country football team but I can use my country team as example to any other country football team which is suffering in the hands of corrupt leadership and management. And what is happening in Brazil is happening to many countries in the world. And the following are some of the factors making the country teams to perform poorly in the international football games.
1. Corrupt Management. The money set aside for the development of the club would be shared among leaders and the amount which would have used to pay the players too would be reduced.
2. Nepotism: bringing neighbors, friends children and family members to the football team even though they can't play football.
3. Poor Skillful Coach: When the coach is not good and skillful to train the players and have no clue of selecting players then there will be a problem in that team. And all those factors are faced by many countries football teams.
it is very risky, and it must be admitted that in many countries football is very often politicized, as a result the decline in the performance of a National Team is inevitable. Especially the Brazilian National Team, the decline they are currently experiencing is due to the chaos that occurred in the management of the Brazilian Football Federation (CBF). The fight for the CBF presidential seat which must be resolved through the courts, has caused the performance of the Brazilian National Team to plummet. Indeed they have the best talent in the squad, but if not managed by the right person, no results can be obtained.

We certainly still remember, Ancelotti was once rumored to be the manager of the Brazilian National Team, but the coup carried out against CBF president Ednaldo Rodrigues, has eliminated that opportunity and Ancelotti decided to continue his work with Madrid. Overall, the appointment of Dorival Junior also seemed reckless, the result of the chaos that occurred.

Source: https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/39264390/making-sense-chaos-engulfing-brazil-puts-world-cup-hopes-risk
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Now we are in 2024, the World Cup will be held in 2026, they still have a long time to prepare the team well, yes, although 1+ years will feel very short. The most important thing now is that they must focus on being able to be in the 2026 World Cup, while they complete or improve the shortcomings they are currently experiencing. You are right, Brazilian players are good when they appear at their clubs, but when defending the national team I see them not being so optimal. Could this be because most of them have big names so that egos are created which affect teamwork? or maybe there are other things such as the coach's strategy is not suitable for Brazil's playing style.

One big incentive is probably going to be money.

I don't think the national team in Brazil will pay close to what these world class players get paid in their leagues.

It's probably mostly just for a national pride. So, if they actually have financial issues for example, they might not really be that motivated to play for the national team.
I don't think they have a problem with that, because most of them also play in big leagues and also big clubs with high salaries, that should be enough for them. I don't think players should talk about this, because what they are defending is their country, so they have to play seriously without thinking about money and so on. Many players are fighting for positions to strengthen the national team, and when they get that position they should be able to do everything for their country. I think their problem has nothing to do with this, but if that really happens then I can't understand how players think. Because if they can bring success to their country and they can play very well, then they will quickly get big offers. keep in mind that the World Cup always produces great players and their value will increase if they play well.
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-snip- I know the Brazilian national team suffered from political interference and I guess it affected them negatively.
Making football a part of politics is a very bad thing especially for a team like Brazil. It is very unfortunate when politics takes over Brazilian football. They are a team that almost never fails to qualify for the world cup every edition. They are ranked 5th in the conmebol zone and they have more defeats than wins. Corruption can really destroy the Brazilian national team. I see Brazilian players struggling without the support of their football federation. There are rumors about some players who were called up because they have connections in the government. Only famous players like Vini, Endrick, or Rodrygo have no issues and are indeed worthy of being called up.
I can't judge another country football team but I can use my country team as example to any other country football team which is suffering in the hands of corrupt leadership and management. And what is happening in Brazil is happening to many countries in the world. And the following are some of the factors making the country teams to perform poorly in the international football games.
1. Corrupt Management. The money set aside for the development of the club would be shared among leaders and the amount which would have used to pay the players too would be reduced.
2. Nepotism: bringing neighbors, friends children and family members to the football team even though they can't play football.
3. Poor Skillful Coach: When the coach is not good and skillful to train the players and have no clue of selecting players then there will be a problem in that team. And all those factors are faced by many countries football teams.
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-snip- I know the Brazilian national team suffered from political interference and I guess it affected them negatively.
Making football a part of politics is a very bad thing especially for a team like Brazil. It is very unfortunate when politics takes over Brazilian football. They are a team that almost never fails to qualify for the world cup every edition. They are ranked 5th in the conmebol zone and they have more defeats than wins. Corruption can really destroy the Brazilian national team. I see Brazilian players struggling without the support of their football federation. There are rumors about some players who were called up because they have connections in the government. Only famous players like Vini, Endrick, or Rodrygo have no issues and are indeed worthy of being called up.
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Corruption is not related at all with this bad run of the Brazilian football team, in such high level of nationals teams this doesnt have anything to do with what happen with the federation.

Brazil is for a long time in this not so good shape, its not new.

Corruption has the potency of destroying anything. Even with all the talents and world-class footballers if the Brazilian Football Federation is corrupt, the team will struggle to succeed. Corruption will affect player selections since some top government officials will want to influence the coach. The coach will be forced to choose unqualified or, in some cases, injured players instead of picking the best.

Dishonesty will also affect funding because the money allocated to the club might be diverted to personal pockets or accounts. Players' welfare will be reduced, and sometimes their bonuses will either be delayed or withheld. This can demotivate the players and make them perform poorly. Corruption could also lead to disunity among the players. Some players who are backed by powerful FA officials might not respect camping rules and might also disrespect coaches and other players. I know the Brazilian national team suffered from political interference and I guess it affected them negatively.
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Corruption is not related at all with this bad run of the Brazilian football team, in such high level of nationals teams this doesnt have anything to do with what happen with the federation.

Brazil is for a long time in this not so good shape, its not new.

Of course there is, there is a kind of mafia of call-ups, some players who are well below average are called up to the national team based on the payment of bribes by their agents, the CBF is extremely corrupt and its former presidents have even been convicted and sent to jail. The entire problem with the Brazilian national team is a problem of mismanagement, terrible coaches and corruption in the CBF.
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Corruption is not related at all with this bad run of the Brazilian football team, in such high level of nationals teams this doesnt have anything to do with what happen with the federation.

Brazil is for a long time in this not so good shape, its not new.
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There is a slight decline in the regeneration of Brazil at this time and it cannot be denied that the statement that came out of the mouth of their football legend Ronaldinho also sees Brazil today, so it is reasonable with the statement that Ronaldinho made to the current Brazilian squad, the problem is that there are many players who are not so impressive, even just labeled expensive players, but none are loyal to their country, even in their own clubs, although there are some players who are really good, but most of them are filled by non-seeded players.
In last few years, we are having too much hype about Brazilian soccer with things are getting worse day by day because it's not lack of quality it's all about hype which is happening due to media and too much money involved in this game recently we are having few good players those were signed by few top European clubs, but things are not going as we have rumours about these players.

Brazilian soccer which is one of the most corrupt organizations fail to bring changes which can bring improvement into their system even now many past legendary are talking about decline in quality they are having time and sources for fixing their problems, but they needed to be done these things on long basis and having peoples those can bring development before its gone one path of no return.

In any organization there is corruption and that's something normal for any country not just Brazil. But I think since they have many people there they think they should have a Brazilian coach they will choose the coach from Brazil while this can make Brazil a weak team because they can't think about many other coaches in the world. Also In Brazil, tradition is something important and that's why they think they have better coaches than all other countries in the world.
On the other hand, Brazil just wants to have superstar players like Neymar and Vini but they can't have good teamwork without these players.
 
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Brazil definitely looks like they are having some troubles but that doesn't mean that they are dealing with anything great. I believe that we can't really do that well, they could get better with a much better manager if you ask me but that doesn't mean that we are going to see this changing all that much. We should consider this as something that will take a while, so we can't consider Brazil as a bad team overall because when you look at their roster you end up seeing what they are doing and that's an important thing without a doubt.

I think we should be considering this as something that will take a while for them to recover but they can do it. plus 2026 is far away and that should be something that takes a time and that could be something that will take a while. I believe that we are going to see Brazil changing their manager yet again, and we could definitely see them do fine during this period and by world cup they will probably do better.
Unfortunately, Brazil national team have much problem right now for the CONMEBOL qualifying matches after having poor performance and their position have small points left from other teams with one points remaining from Bolivia on 8th placed.
Unpredictable what happen with Brazil national team having poor performance in CONMEBOL qualifier round, won 3 of 8 matches bad result for Brazil keep their opportunity if want directly qualifying to World Cup 2026 or have finish on 7th place but have playoff round match.

Brazil national team have many youth talented players and most of their players become important players for European team, I think tactician of Brazil national team could be problem make  Brazil have inconsistent performance in qualifying match or CBF need to find new manager keep their opportunity get qualify to World Cup 2026.

The only thing left for the Brazilian team to start winning again is to change the coach and the entire coaching staff, perhaps try again with a foreign coach or even make a generous offer to the Portuguese coach Jorge Jesus, who when he worked in Brazil revolutionized the Flamengo team's style of play, almost winning the 2019 Club World Cup. I don't see any other alternative, because the players are much better at their clubs than they are on the Brazilian team... the biggest mistake is at the top that gives the orders, that is, the coach and coaching staff.
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Brazil definitely looks like they are having some troubles but that doesn't mean that they are dealing with anything great. I believe that we can't really do that well, they could get better with a much better manager if you ask me but that doesn't mean that we are going to see this changing all that much. We should consider this as something that will take a while, so we can't consider Brazil as a bad team overall because when you look at their roster you end up seeing what they are doing and that's an important thing without a doubt.

I think we should be considering this as something that will take a while for them to recover but they can do it. plus 2026 is far away and that should be something that takes a time and that could be something that will take a while. I believe that we are going to see Brazil changing their manager yet again, and we could definitely see them do fine during this period and by world cup they will probably do better.
Unfortunately, Brazil national team have much problem right now for the CONMEBOL qualifying matches after having poor performance and their position have small points left from other teams with one points remaining from Bolivia on 8th placed.
Unpredictable what happen with Brazil national team having poor performance in CONMEBOL qualifier round, won 3 of 8 matches bad result for Brazil keep their opportunity if want directly qualifying to World Cup 2026 or have finish on 7th place but have playoff round match.

Brazil national team have many youth talented players and most of their players become important players for European team, I think tactician of Brazil national team could be problem make  Brazil have inconsistent performance in qualifying match or CBF need to find new manager keep their opportunity get qualify to World Cup 2026.
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Uruguay is team that is ranked 3rd and Venezuela is ranked 6th but this match is quite dramatic because Venezuela as team playing at home is able to take advantage of the advantage to be able to hold Uruguay to draw.
However, it is quite surprising to see team like Uruguay who failed to win against team that is below them, I thought Uruguay could still win but in the end the match ended not as I expected.
For the 8th match there were indeed some unexpected results such as Argentina defeat against Colombia which clearly in their meeting in the Copa America showed that Argentina could beat Colombia in the final match.
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