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Live betting is where it's at too. Last World Cup was pretty good for me, betting first against the favs, and then on them when/if they went a goal behind.
Did I understand correctly that you bet against the favorites in the group stage and in the playoffs on the favorites if they started to lead? Or were these some kind of hedging bets in live?

Yes, it's pretty simple like this. So like for yesterday's game (not World Cup but serves as an example), Group stags pits seeds against teams who qualified via qualifier playoffs. In effect, you get odds like 12/1 for Scotland against Germany.

Take Scotland prematch, then if they actually do score, then bet live on the favs (Germany). Purely hedging bets but once a prematch favourite of 11/10 concedes first, it can very easily go directly to 2/1 with a boost. A 15/10 can get to 3/1 or even 4/1 conceding first, depending on how people are betting and gameflow. Especially right after the goal, odds can swing pretty high before settling down.
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This is perhaps the biggest failure of Cristiano Ronaldo, he is unable to change players and win the World Cup trophy. If Portugal had players like France, Brazil, Spain, England, then Portugal would have won the World Cup trophy by now. But what still gives hope to me is that a team like Morocco played in the semi-finals of the last World Cup, but Portugal can certainly show them well with this team. In the last world cup we saw cristiano ronaldo being intentionally benched by the manager for several matches i think it is disrespectful to ronaldo if that doesn't happen in 2026 world cup then he should participate again in 2026 world cup. If a player who has single-handedly done so much for the team has to be humiliated at the last moment, it could not be worse.
Christiano Ronaldo will never be fulfilled for not winning the world cup.He wouldn't have been feeling bad because of it,but since Messi his rival has won it,it now looked like he hasn't been able to do what Messi has done in the world of Football.But I don't really blame him,I wish he would be able to win atleast Once,but with the squad Portugal have,you can't compare them with what other countrie have.But i also believe that if Portugal have team spirit,and they have that winning mentality in the team,I so much believe they can win the world cup.
Portugal opportunity to become World Cup champions is very open, because they have quality players in their squad, and that is very possible. However, if you look at the current facts, Portugal is in 6th place in the FIFA rankings, which means that Portugal has to work hard if it has the ambition to win the 2026 World Cup trophy. This ambition is not only limited to Ronaldo, because all players also want the same thing, regardless of Ronaldo rivalry with Messi. Not all players are lucky, even though Ronaldo failed to win the World Cup trophy during his career, everyone should respect him as one of the best players in the world.

On the other hand, personally I doubt that Ronaldo will be able to appear at the 2026 World Cup, maybe EURO 2024 this time will be his last event for the Portuguese national team. The age factor is a major obstacle that cannot be avoided, although we know that currently Ronaldo is still very productive in scoring goals. Apart from that, we'll see how Ronaldo performs at EURO 2024, whether the coach will give him more playing time or not. I think EURO 2024 can be a reference to see Ronaldo chances of participating in the 2026 World Cup.
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A single player ot two players cannot win the world cup when there are countries with strong players in their first eleven and their bench. The problem of Ronaldo unable to win the world cup is because of the country he is from. They don't have the players that it takes to join force with Ronaldo in order for Portugal to win the world cup.

It was in the last world cup that Messi was able to break the curse after playing in several world cup, and he didn't do it all alone. France also have great players, if Portugal players have improved their performance and take the world cup competition a do or die affair, maybe they can win it next season. I doubt if such thing will happen.
This is perhaps the biggest failure of Cristiano Ronaldo, he is unable to change players and win the World Cup trophy. If Portugal had players like France, Brazil, Spain, England, then Portugal would have won the World Cup trophy by now. But what still gives hope to me is that a team like Morocco played in the semi-finals of the last World Cup, but Portugal can certainly show them well with this team. In the last world cup we saw cristiano ronaldo being intentionally benched by the manager for several matches i think it is disrespectful to ronaldo if that doesn't happen in 2026 world cup then he should participate again in 2026 world cup. If a player who has single-handedly done so much for the team has to be humiliated at the last moment, it could not be worse.
Christiano Ronaldo will never be fulfilled for not winning the world cup.He wouldn't have been feeling bad because of it,but since Messi his rival has won it,it now looked like he hasn't been able to do what Messi has done in the world of Football.But I don't really blame him,I wish he would be able to win atleast Once,but with the squad Portugal have,you can't compare them with what other countrie have.But i also believe that if Portugal have team spirit,and they have that winning mentality in the team,I so much believe they can win the world cup.
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We all know that FIFA is actually not that much interested in the players being healthy if they can actually get some more money doing some certain things. The schedule is definitely not one that actually keeps the health of the players in mind. They definitely could have done better. It also looks like FIFA is actually trying to make as much money as they can. Well, I shouldn't say that about FIFA. It’s more like some certain personnel in FIFA. I believe this actually made so many headlines because some big players and a club like Real Madrid came out and said that. But now Real Madrid has actually said that they are going to play. So I guess it was all for nothing in the end.

Details: https://www.football-espana.net/2024/06/13/players-union-sues-fifa-over-club-world-cup-and-match-schedule
FIFA make controversial with FIFA World Cup Club new format by adding teams participants from usually have seven teams will add become 32 participants with schedule taking almost one month. New format of FIFA Club World Cup will adopt at the end of next season and some players will miss their holiday after season 2024/25 ended have to play one month for FIFA Club World Cup matches almost one month. FIFA try to get advantage by earning much money without care with some players not get taking rest yet after season ending they must play on FIFA Club World Cup.

Carlo Ancelotti had announced they will not participants in FIFA Club World Cup 2025 but recently Real Madrid has difference official announcement on their social media account keep participating although some players will loss their holiday moment. FIFA more ambition right now with unacceptable format from additional of FIFA World Cup teams participants from 32 teams become 48 on FIFA World Cup 2026 until new format at FIFA Club World Cup.
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Messi has just said Inter Miami would be his last team to play for. But as far as I know he hasn't made any statement on his national career yet. I hope we can see him also in next World Cup together with Ronaldo.  Roll Eyes  Ronaldo has also stated that he doesn't have long years ahead of him to play football. It is obvious next World Cup would be the most optimistic tournament to see them both for one last time.

Anyway there is still a long time for European qualifiers to start I guess. Now we have Euro 2024 right ahead. After that I would start thinking about the qualifiers.
Yes,I guess that's the time they would want to okay their last games.They are the two created footballers of all time.Messi is the greatest player of all time,while Ronaldo is the greatest player of all time.We can't compare the both because they are unique in their different ways.I know very well that Christiano will play in the world cup and retire immediately after the tournament.He has really tried for himself and his family consider his game,and the fact that he is still playing.
Where as Messi has already stated that Inter Miami is his last club,but his last game might come after world cup.
In terms of age, it is likely that neither of them will play again at the 2026 World Cup. Indeed, Ronaldo said he would retire after the World Cup, and so did Messi. However, 2026 is still very far away and as their age increases, it is possible that Ronaldo and Messi will retire after last representing the national team at the Euros and Copa America.

Or maybe one of the two great players who will play in the next world cup is Ronaldo. Because he felt imperfect before winning the world cup in his career, the world cup added perfection to end his career. Moreover, currently Ronaldo is still quite productive in scoring goals even though he plays in a different SPL from Messi at Inter Miami.

But if I have to choose, I want Ronaldo to enter the 2026 world cup because his stamina is extraordinary and I want Ronaldo to win two world cups.

Well this is something that I have seen that is always a reason for one to be encouraged to see this world that is coming with more intensity, although I do not know, but I saw something very sad on social networks, that according to CR7 he was retiring after the EURO, I hope it was a false rumor, because I really would like to see CR7 in the 2026 World Cup, not so much because Portugal wins, but I want to see CR7 play with his son, it can Happen, I think that as a father it is one of the greatest prides that he can live, and CR7 deserves it, he is a good boy , and I think that he is a person who has fought against a system where they always want to kick him out of Everything.



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We all know that FIFA is actually not that much interested in the players being healthy if they can actually get some more money doing some certain things. The schedule is definitely not one that actually keeps the health of the players in mind. They definitely could have done better. It also looks like FIFA is actually trying to make as much money as they can. Well, I shouldn't say that about FIFA. It’s more like some certain personnel in FIFA. I believe this actually made so many headlines because some big players and a club like Real Madrid came out and said that. But now Real Madrid has actually said that they are going to play. So I guess it was all for nothing in the end.

Details: https://www.football-espana.net/2024/06/13/players-union-sues-fifa-over-club-world-cup-and-match-schedule
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A lot of controversy is ongoing after Qatar won the world cup qualifying match against India by a margin of 2-1. India were leading by 1-0, after Lallianzuala Chhangte scored a goal in 37th minute. However Qatar equalized in 73rd minute. As per replays, it was clear that the ball has gone out of play, but the referee awarded the goal to Qatar. And then Ahmed Al-Rawi scored another goal for Qatar to put them ahead by a margin of 2-1. If India had drawn this match, then they could have qualified for the next stage.
Yes ,Qatar football team played very well and won the match very easily. Qatar team score was greater than Indian team and Indian team score was only 1 goal but Qatar team played excellent in this match. Now the position of Qatar is very strong and they will qualify easily for next round. Now the points of Qatar are 16 and in the comparison,the points of Indian team are 5 . The shots of Qatar team were  18 and from which 8 were on target but shots of Indian team were only 9 and from which only 2 shots were on target.The passes of Qatar team were 474 and that was good performance and the passes of Indian team were only 390 . That is big reason of lose of Indian team . Indian team played very bad in last 30 minutes of the game.

If you followed the games they played recently, you should know Qatar recently won the Asia Cup and this is why the other teams like Japan, South Korea, and Iran couldn't do that during this year. This means the investment they had for Qatar was working so far and this made Qatar to get improve a lot. If you check this team you know there are some non-Qatari players who are paid to play for this team and live their lives there in Qatar.
But still, even after spending this huge amount of money, Qatar could never good results in the World Cup.
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A single player ot two players cannot win the world cup when there are countries with strong players in their first eleven and their bench. The problem of Ronaldo unable to win the world cup is because of the country he is from. They don't have the players that it takes to join force with Ronaldo in order for Portugal to win the world cup.

It was in the last world cup that Messi was able to break the curse after playing in several world cup, and he didn't do it all alone. France also have great players, if Portugal players have improved their performance and take the world cup competition a do or die affair, maybe they can win it next season. I doubt if such thing will happen.
This is perhaps the biggest failure of Cristiano Ronaldo, he is unable to change players and win the World Cup trophy. If Portugal had players like France, Brazil, Spain, England, then Portugal would have won the World Cup trophy by now. But what still gives hope to me is that a team like Morocco played in the semi-finals of the last World Cup, but Portugal can certainly show them well with this team. In the last world cup we saw cristiano ronaldo being intentionally benched by the manager for several matches i think it is disrespectful to ronaldo if that doesn't happen in 2026 world cup then he should participate again in 2026 world cup. If a player who has single-handedly done so much for the team has to be humiliated at the last moment, it could not be worse.
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A lot of controversy is ongoing after Qatar won the world cup qualifying match against India by a margin of 2-1. India were leading by 1-0, after Lallianzuala Chhangte scored a goal in 37th minute. However Qatar equalized in 73rd minute. As per replays, it was clear that the ball has gone out of play, but the referee awarded the goal to Qatar. And then Ahmed Al-Rawi scored another goal for Qatar to put them ahead by a margin of 2-1. If India had drawn this match, then they could have qualified for the next stage.
Yes ,Qatar football team played very well and won the match very easily. Qatar team score was greater than Indian team and Indian team score was only 1 goal but Qatar team played excellent in this match. Now the position of Qatar is very strong and they will qualify easily for next round. Now the points of Qatar are 16 and in the comparison,the points of Indian team are 5 . The shots of Qatar team were  18 and from which 8 were on target but shots of Indian team were only 9 and from which only 2 shots were on target.The passes of Qatar team were 474 and that was good performance and the passes of Indian team were only 390 . That is big reason of lose of Indian team . Indian team played very bad in last 30 minutes of the game.
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It's not that he's unfit, he's fit enough to play and he's been performing well regularly in the Saudi league so the team will definitely give him another chance if he wants to. However, if you want to do something good in the 26th World Cup, every player must play with a lot of responsibility and do well only then this star can make the 2026 World Cup memorable

Ronaldo plays in the Saudi Arabian League and he managed to break the league record as the highest goal scorer in one season. At more than 35 years old, I think Ronaldo is the GOAT who still has an extraordinary physique to play in high level competitions. I am sure Ronaldo will be able to play in the 2026 World Cup at the same level. Usually only goalkeepers or defenders can play in old age for footballers. But I think Ronaldo will be a striker who can play even until he is 40 years old. I am truly amazed by Ronaldo's consistency and discipline in maintaining his physique.
Yes that's right. Ronaldo, in terms of maintaining his physical condition and continuing to train, will most likely return to play in the next world cup. It's rare for a 39 year old player to still be productive in scoring goals, especially now that he has broken the record in the Arab Pro League.

Just look at other players, there is no player like Ronaldo who consistently maintains physical fitness and scores goals. Messi currently at his new club is also not as good as Ronaldo at AL Nassr, so with Ronaldo's consistency and discipline in maintaining his physique, it is not impossible that Ronaldo, at the age of more than 40 years in 2026, will still be able to play in the World Cup even if he doesn't play. full time but his presence in the team will maintain the motivation of the other players.
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Messi has just said Inter Miami would be his last team to play for. But as far as I know he hasn't made any statement on his national career yet. I hope we can see him also in next World Cup together with Ronaldo.  Roll Eyes  Ronaldo has also stated that he doesn't have long years ahead of him to play football. It is obvious next World Cup would be the most optimistic tournament to see them both for one last time.

Anyway there is still a long time for European qualifiers to start I guess. Now we have Euro 2024 right ahead. After that I would start thinking about the qualifiers.
The news would come as a shocking to the fans when they do not expected it that Messi ill quit playing for the National team. Which means the next world cup competition which would take place soon he wont be playing as well. Dude is over football age, in as much he is lying that he is still younger with the age online, however before then his age will be equal to the retirement football age. Of course no matter what he do, FIFA wont let him play at all. What else is he looking for in his career again he has won the world cup which was what we all was especting.
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Eh, all the teams ended up losing, but the Bahamas played half the game shorthanded and the score was only 1-0, which makes me think there was value in this bet.
Personally, I have now reached the state I need and am not at all looking for any game to bet on. It seems to me that the most difficult thing is to just wait for value games and not bet simply because there are some games. I plan to start with the third games of the Euro group stage, I think by this time the value of the games will be clear and it will be possible to predict with greater accuracy.

You echoed my thoughts. To be fair, if they had 11 men, they might have tried harder to equalise, and then end up losing big anyway. All the same, they were huge underdogs and only lost by a goal. A handicap bet should have been worth at least 3/1.

Value is discipline... which I don't always have. I actually used to be much better when I had a lot of time, I bet with reasonably high frequency only in the season, and then entire off season I don't bet at all. Now I'm even betting on F1...

With KO tournaments, I find value only in qualifiers and the latter stages of the finals. Group stages seem to be the worst -- everyone is too careful, and even ending up third or drawing all the games gives you a chance to playoff. Live betting is where it's at too. Last World Cup was pretty good for me, betting first against the favs, and then on them when/if they went a goal behind.

That is why I plan to start from the third round and if I bet, I will only bet on games where the outcome of the game will mean life and death. If there are no such games (or they are not interesting in terms of odds), then I will look for interesting bets in the playoffs.
Did I understand correctly that you bet against the favorites in the group stage and in the playoffs on the favorites if they started to lead? Or were these some kind of hedging bets in live?
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It's not that he's unfit, he's fit enough to play and he's been performing well regularly in the Saudi league so the team will definitely give him another chance if he wants to. However, if you want to do something good in the 26th World Cup, every player must play with a lot of responsibility and do well only then this star can make the 2026 World Cup memorable

Ronaldo plays in the Saudi Arabian League and he managed to break the league record as the highest goal scorer in one season. At more than 35 years old, I think Ronaldo is the GOAT who still has an extraordinary physique to play in high level competitions. I am sure Ronaldo will be able to play in the 2026 World Cup at the same level. Usually only goalkeepers or defenders can play in old age for footballers. But I think Ronaldo will be a striker who can play even until he is 40 years old. I am truly amazed by Ronaldo's consistency and discipline in maintaining his physique.
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Yeah, that's the thing, VAR is great and all but at the end of the day the referee has the last call.

It might seem that the ball entered, or not, but the referee is actually in the field and probably has a better idea of what happened.

But yeah, it can be controversial, because if it was clearly out (or in) then why even consider the referee's call...

I like that the referee has the last call though...

Not entirely that though, the center referees have the say because the whistle is with them, when it comes to VAR though the referees at the VAR room usually have a say too, when you see calls are make you will see the referees hesitant to go to the TV for a review because they feel like the VAR referee is also capable. It is when the call is controversial that the referee is called to the monitor, so it’s not only the referee that makes call in the field.

Concerning this particular case of India vs Qatar, i think we can’t just conclude that the ball was totally out of play.  There were fractions of the ball still on the line which is a reason to actually award the goal. The only major thing done there that made me not to be happy with the centre referee is the fact that he didn’t go up to check it himself
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In terms of age, it is likely that neither of them will play again at the 2026 World Cup. Indeed, Ronaldo said he would retire after the World Cup, and so did Messi. However, 2026 is still very far away and as their age increases, it is possible that Ronaldo and Messi will retire after last representing the national team at the Euros and Copa America.

Or maybe one of the two great players who will play in the next world cup is Ronaldo. Because he felt imperfect before winning the world cup in his career, the world cup added perfection to end his career. Moreover, currently Ronaldo is still quite productive in scoring goals even though he plays in a different SPL from Messi at Inter Miami.

But if I have to choose, I want Ronaldo to enter the 2026 world cup because his stamina is extraordinary and I want Ronaldo to win two world cups.
This is true and could play out, we are talking about 2 years plus down here, and despite the fact that now time flies but still people can change decisions at any point especially when age is no longer by their side, But reason that the two football legendary players would try to make it or play in that 2026 world cup is for them to say farewell to football, especially Christino Ronaldo who still needs to add the world cup trophy to his football records before he retires wouldn't want to miss this very last opportunity to try to lift the world cup.
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In terms of age, it is likely that neither of them will play again at the 2026 World Cup. Indeed, Ronaldo said he would retire after the World Cup, and so did Messi. However, 2026 is still very far away and as their age increases, it is possible that Ronaldo and Messi will retire after last representing the national team at the Euros and Copa America.

Or maybe one of the two great players who will play in the next world cup is Ronaldo. Because he felt imperfect before winning the world cup in his career, the world cup added perfection to end his career. Moreover, currently Ronaldo is still quite productive in scoring goals even though he plays in a different SPL from Messi at Inter Miami.

But if I have to choose, I want Ronaldo to enter the 2026 world cup because his stamina is extraordinary and I want Ronaldo to win two world cups.
It's quite possible that Messi and Ronaldo will change their minds by 2026, remember that the same thing happened with Pelé in the 62 World Cup, he said he would retire from the national team until he was champion in the 70 World Cup, with this Brazil lineup being the most overwhelming of all editions of the world cups that became known as "the squadron".

I have the impression that we don't see great stars like Ronaldinho, the phenomenon Ronaldo emerge, it seems that these are the only ones.
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Well with the star of the Eurocup and after that the start of the american cup on united state soil, we are gonna start to see some real clues about the teams thinking in the next world cup in a distant future, becuase until now we have 0 clues about what teams are gonna be real contenders.
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Messi has just said Inter Miami would be his last team to play for. But as far as I know he hasn't made any statement on his national career yet. I hope we can see him also in next World Cup together with Ronaldo.  Roll Eyes  Ronaldo has also stated that he doesn't have long years ahead of him to play football. It is obvious next World Cup would be the most optimistic tournament to see them both for one last time.

Anyway there is still a long time for European qualifiers to start I guess. Now we have Euro 2024 right ahead. After that I would start thinking about the qualifiers.
Yes,I guess that's the time they would want to okay their last games.They are the two created footballers of all time.Messi is the greatest player of all time,while Ronaldo is the greatest player of all time.We can't compare the both because they are unique in their different ways.I know very well that Christiano will play in the world cup and retire immediately after the tournament.He has really tried for himself and his family consider his game,and the fact that he is still playing.
Where as Messi has already stated that Inter Miami is his last club,but his last game might come after world cup.
In terms of age, it is likely that neither of them will play again at the 2026 World Cup. Indeed, Ronaldo said he would retire after the World Cup, and so did Messi. However, 2026 is still very far away and as their age increases, it is possible that Ronaldo and Messi will retire after last representing the national team at the Euros and Copa America.

Or maybe one of the two great players who will play in the next world cup is Ronaldo. Because he felt imperfect before winning the world cup in his career, the world cup added perfection to end his career. Moreover, currently Ronaldo is still quite productive in scoring goals even though he plays in a different SPL from Messi at Inter Miami.

But if I have to choose, I want Ronaldo to enter the 2026 world cup because his stamina is extraordinary and I want Ronaldo to win two world cups.
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Messi has just said Inter Miami would be his last team to play for. But as far as I know he hasn't made any statement on his national career yet. I hope we can see him also in next World Cup together with Ronaldo.  Roll Eyes  Ronaldo has also stated that he doesn't have long years ahead of him to play football. It is obvious next World Cup would be the most optimistic tournament to see them both for one last time.

Anyway there is still a long time for European qualifiers to start I guess. Now we have Euro 2024 right ahead. After that I would start thinking about the qualifiers.
Yes,I guess that's the time they would want to okay their last games.They are the two created footballers of all time.Messi is the greatest player of all time,while Ronaldo is the greatest player of all time.We can't compare the both because they are unique in their different ways.I know very well that Christiano will play in the world cup and retire immediately after the tournament.He has really tried for himself and his family consider his game,and the fact that he is still playing.
Where as Messi has already stated that Inter Miami is his last club,but his last game might come after world cup.

Ronaldo is still a big part of his team Portugal, and we just aw Portugal is literally nothing without Ronaldo in their team. They didn't let Ronaldo play against Croatia and they failed to win the game while in the next game with Ronaldo against Irland, they won the game.
This indicates that in the next World Cup in 2026, we are going to definitely see Ronaldo playing for Portugal, however, he will get older but they haven't found any player to fill his place in Portugal yet.

To me Cristiano Ronaldo is the greatest footballer that's ever lived even when I know some other people have a different opinion about what I just said but that doesn't mean that without him, the Portugal national team is nothing without him. Portugal is blessed with so many young talents that can play in Cristiano Ronaldo's position in the team and still help them win major finals but the obvious truth is that none of them possess the kind of football experience their captain Cristiano Ronaldo posseses. I would like to see Cristiano Ronaldo play in the next edition of the FIFA World Cup but I don't know how possible that'll be.
Recently, Lionel Messi granted an interview in which he said that there's a possibility of playing in the next edition of the FIFA World Cup only if he's fully fit to participate. The two best players of the last two decades are without doubt playing in their final years in football and that's why I'll advise everyone to enjoy the moment while it lasts.
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Messi has just said Inter Miami would be his last team to play for. But as far as I know he hasn't made any statement on his national career yet. I hope we can see him also in next World Cup together with Ronaldo.  Roll Eyes  Ronaldo has also stated that he doesn't have long years ahead of him to play football. It is obvious next World Cup would be the most optimistic tournament to see them both for one last time.

Anyway there is still a long time for European qualifiers to start I guess. Now we have Euro 2024 right ahead. After that I would start thinking about the qualifiers.
Yes,I guess that's the time they would want to okay their last games.They are the two created footballers of all time.Messi is the greatest player of all time,while Ronaldo is the greatest player of all time.We can't compare the both because they are unique in their different ways.I know very well that Christiano will play in the world cup and retire immediately after the tournament.He has really tried for himself and his family consider his game,and the fact that he is still playing.
Where as Messi has already stated that Inter Miami is his last club,but his last game might come after world cup.

Ronaldo is still a big part of his team Portugal, and we just aw Portugal is literally nothing without Ronaldo in their team. They didn't let Ronaldo play against Croatia and they failed to win the game while in the next game with Ronaldo against Irland, they won the game.
This indicates that in the next World Cup in 2026, we are going to definitely see Ronaldo playing for Portugal, however, he will get older but they haven't found any player to fill his place in Portugal yet.
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