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Messi has just said Inter Miami would be his last team to play for. But as far as I know he hasn't made any statement on his national career yet. I hope we can see him also in next World Cup together with Ronaldo.  Roll Eyes  Ronaldo has also stated that he doesn't have long years ahead of him to play football. It is obvious next World Cup would be the most optimistic tournament to see them both for one last time.

Anyway there is still a long time for European qualifiers to start I guess. Now we have Euro 2024 right ahead. After that I would start thinking about the qualifiers.
Recently Lionel Messi announced Inter Miami become his last team to play and never has decision for him return back to play with top European team or joining with Saudi Arabia club. Seems Lionel Messi getting more comfortable with Inter Miami and enjoying first season although failed bring his team to play off round qualifier,
but Messi still not giving confirmation about his future with national team will Copa America 2024 become his last appearance or waiting World Cup 2026 before retiring from national teams.

For Lionel Messi its bad decision because he still on the top level performance for playing with many top European teams, but his decision seems final make Inter Miami as last team for his career and he has planning will retire one day later with Inter Miami. Seems Lionel Messi will be Inter Miami legend one day later after his loyal announcing his last teams is Inter Miami.
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Value betting is definitely a way to look at all of this. Doesn't mean you will always be right, but it just means that you are going to end up seeing something different and good eventually. We just need to make sure that we do not bet too much, if we control our betting amount then value betting is not bad at all.

It usually means that we are going to see a situation that is unorthodox, and not going to be something that will take a while to happen. I think the situation should be something that will take a while. We should consider the situation to be highly sensitive. The reality is that we are going to be something that will take care of the situation getting a bit more risky but also has a risk value that is at positive.
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Messi has just said Inter Miami would be his last team to play for. But as far as I know he hasn't made any statement on his national career yet. I hope we can see him also in next World Cup together with Ronaldo.  Roll Eyes  Ronaldo has also stated that he doesn't have long years ahead of him to play football. It is obvious next World Cup would be the most optimistic tournament to see them both for one last time.

Anyway there is still a long time for European qualifiers to start I guess. Now we have Euro 2024 right ahead. After that I would start thinking about the qualifiers.
As for Lionel Messi his move to inter Miami was unnecessary for me, he would have still remained in Paris Saint-Germain at least most of Europe would have still be seeing and watching him, which for me would have been a better place for retirement. However I think both Ronaldo and Messi are waiting for next world cup in 2026 before they will hang their boots. Ronaldo might really look like a player closing in little by little to his retirement, but he is still banging goals for his club. For the Europe 2024 that is about to kick off in about 24 hours from now, Portugal are heavily fronting Ronaldo as their Talisman which he has always been, and we are hopeful of still seeing his magical touches on the field of play this time around, not minding his age.
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Messi has just said Inter Miami would be his last team to play for. But as far as I know he hasn't made any statement on his national career yet. I hope we can see him also in next World Cup together with Ronaldo.  Roll Eyes  Ronaldo has also stated that he doesn't have long years ahead of him to play football. It is obvious next World Cup would be the most optimistic tournament to see them both for one last time.

Anyway there is still a long time for European qualifiers to start I guess. Now we have Euro 2024 right ahead. After that I would start thinking about the qualifiers.
Yes,I guess that's the time they would want to okay their last games.They are the two created footballers of all time.Messi is the greatest player of all time,while Ronaldo is the greatest player of all time.We can't compare the both because they are unique in their different ways.I know very well that Christiano will play in the world cup and retire immediately after the tournament.He has really tried for himself and his family consider his game,and the fact that he is still playing.
Where as Messi has already stated that Inter Miami is his last club,but his last game might come after world cup.
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Ronaldo has already confirmed that he will play in the 2026 World Cup but Lionel Messi has not made any decision on whether he will play for the national team in the next World Cup. Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are definitely two of the most mature players but the way they are connected to football and the way they have maintained their fitness, I don't think the 26 World Cup will be difficult for them. 

We have accepted that they will retire in the 2022 World Cup so if we see them in the 2026 World Cup it will be a bonus World Cup tournament for us. As a football lover, I would definitely like Messi and Ronaldo to play the World Cup together again.

Previously, we all thought that Ronaldo had really retired from defending Portugal, but it seems that he still feels able to play the last World Cup with Portugal and of course staying at Al Nassr this season is nothing but one of the ways for Ronaldo to be able to maintain his playing performance ahead of the 2026 World Cup starting later, so far Portugal still gives great confidence in Ronaldo and several other senior players,  So indeed we will see the Portuguese squad will be filled with a combination of young and old players later, Messi has previously said that the 2022 World Cup will be the last World Cup for him, but reportedly he also does not rule out the possibility of playing in the 2026 World Cup if indeed his physique and stamina are still very supportive to defend Argentina later.

Ronaldo and Messi are two of the best players in the world and they continue to compete to prove who is the best between them, the 2026 world cup of course we want to see the rivalry between the two players happen again and wouldn't it be interesting if later Portugal and Argentina might be able to meet in the final, so it will also be the final of the rivalry between the two before they really decide to retire from football?.
Cristiano Ronaldo is a legendary player and has achieved a lot of personal achievements in his accomplished career, but apart from winning only one Euro title for his country, he has no notable achievements. As the player he is, it is natural to expect him to have a World Cup trophy next to his name and his countrymen to remember him forever for the World Cup trophy. He started the last World Cup with high expectations but did not finish well. Maybe that's why he decided to play for another World Cup team. 

It's not that he's unfit, he's fit enough to play and he's been performing well regularly in the Saudi league so the team will definitely give him another chance if he wants to. However, if you want to do something good in the 26th World Cup, every player must play with a lot of responsibility and do well only then this star can make the 2026 World Cup memorable
A single player ot two players cannot win the world cup when there are countries with strong players in their first eleven and their bench. The problem of Ronaldo unable to win the world cup is because of the country he is from. They don't have the players that it takes to join force with Ronaldo in order for Portugal to win the world cup.

It was in the last world cup that Messi was able to break the curse after playing in several world cup, and he didn't do it all alone. France also have great players, if Portugal players have improved their performance and take the world cup competition a do or die affair, maybe they can win it next season. I doubt if such thing will happen.
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Messi has just said Inter Miami would be his last team to play for. But as far as I know he hasn't made any statement on his national career yet. I hope we can see him also in next World Cup together with Ronaldo.  Roll Eyes  Ronaldo has also stated that he doesn't have long years ahead of him to play football. It is obvious next World Cup would be the most optimistic tournament to see them both for one last time.

Anyway there is still a long time for European qualifiers to start I guess. Now we have Euro 2024 right ahead. After that I would start thinking about the qualifiers.
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Ronaldo has already confirmed that he will play in the 2026 World Cup but Lionel Messi has not made any decision on whether he will play for the national team in the next World Cup. Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are definitely two of the most mature players but the way they are connected to football and the way they have maintained their fitness, I don't think the 26 World Cup will be difficult for them. 

We have accepted that they will retire in the 2022 World Cup so if we see them in the 2026 World Cup it will be a bonus World Cup tournament for us. As a football lover, I would definitely like Messi and Ronaldo to play the World Cup together again.

Previously, we all thought that Ronaldo had really retired from defending Portugal, but it seems that he still feels able to play the last World Cup with Portugal and of course staying at Al Nassr this season is nothing but one of the ways for Ronaldo to be able to maintain his playing performance ahead of the 2026 World Cup starting later, so far Portugal still gives great confidence in Ronaldo and several other senior players,  So indeed we will see the Portuguese squad will be filled with a combination of young and old players later, Messi has previously said that the 2022 World Cup will be the last World Cup for him, but reportedly he also does not rule out the possibility of playing in the 2026 World Cup if indeed his physique and stamina are still very supportive to defend Argentina later.

Ronaldo and Messi are two of the best players in the world and they continue to compete to prove who is the best between them, the 2026 world cup of course we want to see the rivalry between the two players happen again and wouldn't it be interesting if later Portugal and Argentina might be able to meet in the final, so it will also be the final of the rivalry between the two before they really decide to retire from football?.
Cristiano Ronaldo is a legendary player and has achieved a lot of personal achievements in his accomplished career, but apart from winning only one Euro title for his country, he has no notable achievements. As the player he is, it is natural to expect him to have a World Cup trophy next to his name and his countrymen to remember him forever for the World Cup trophy. He started the last World Cup with high expectations but did not finish well. Maybe that's why he decided to play for another World Cup team. 

It's not that he's unfit, he's fit enough to play and he's been performing well regularly in the Saudi league so the team will definitely give him another chance if he wants to. However, if you want to do something good in the 26th World Cup, every player must play with a lot of responsibility and do well only then this star can make the 2026 World Cup memorable
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Eh, all the teams ended up losing, but the Bahamas played half the game shorthanded and the score was only 1-0, which makes me think there was value in this bet.
Personally, I have now reached the state I need and am not at all looking for any game to bet on. It seems to me that the most difficult thing is to just wait for value games and not bet simply because there are some games. I plan to start with the third games of the Euro group stage, I think by this time the value of the games will be clear and it will be possible to predict with greater accuracy.

You echoed my thoughts. To be fair, if they had 11 men, they might have tried harder to equalise, and then end up losing big anyway. All the same, they were huge underdogs and only lost by a goal. A handicap bet should have been worth at least 3/1.

Value is discipline... which I don't always have. I actually used to be much better when I had a lot of time, I bet with reasonably high frequency only in the season, and then entire off season I don't bet at all. Now I'm even betting on F1...

With KO tournaments, I find value only in qualifiers and the latter stages of the finals. Group stages seem to be the worst -- everyone is too careful, and even ending up third or drawing all the games gives you a chance to playoff. Live betting is where it's at too. Last World Cup was pretty good for me, betting first against the favs, and then on them when/if they went a goal behind.
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A lot of controversy is ongoing after Qatar won the world cup qualifying match against India by a margin of 2-1. India were leading by 1-0, after Lallianzuala Chhangte scored a goal in 37th minute. However Qatar equalized in 73rd minute. As per replays, it was clear that the ball has gone out of play, but the referee awarded the goal to Qatar. And then Ahmed Al-Rawi scored another goal for Qatar to put them ahead by a margin of 2-1. If India had drawn this match, then they could have qualified for the next stage.

Yeah, that's the thing, VAR is great and all but at the end of the day the referee has the last call.

It might seem that the ball entered, or not, but the referee is actually in the field and probably has a better idea of what happened.

But yeah, it can be controversial, because if it was clearly out (or in) then why even consider the referee's call...

I like that the referee has the last call though...
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I do not care who says what, Ronaldo will not be able to play at this one. Dude is already 40, he would be like 42 or something by that time, not sure if he will be still playing football at that age but even if we assume that he still plays, he will not be playing at national team when world cup comes.

There are already quite limited number of players that teams can send, so that means they are not going to spend one of the slots to a 42 year old Ronaldo, he is already not doing that great, even in 2022 world cup he was benched after a while, and now we are seeing him getting to something four years later? Of course not, he will not have a place. Maybe if they do that like emotionally, like so he would be a leader, but I doubt they would, he doesn't look like a leader at all.
I do agree with this, but in a different approach. I do agree with the part that he could still be called up as a "leader", like a veteran presence, like someone who would be there not to play but to motivate the players and to be fair liked or not Ronaldo is still Ronaldo and I think people would listen to him when he suggests something. When he is a player, if he says something then other players may think that he is just out for himself, but when he is not playing at all, then we are talking about someone who is doing something that will be just for the good of the team.

So, I think if he is playing and he desires to play at that one, then they could still call him up, but I agree that not for playing because he is already not good even now.

Portugal proved once again how hard they need Ronaldo in the team and how they are weak without Ronaldo in the games. Portugal knows Ronaldo is getting old and they should try using options instead of Ronbaldo but it has not worked well so far and they totally failed.
Ronaldo is a true leader no matter if he plays for Portugal or Al Nassr, he tries to do his best for the team regardless of his age.
In the game against Irland, we saw Ronaldo score two goals for Portugal and he had a perfect performance and if he continues this good performance he is going to definitely play in the 2026 World Cup for Portugal.

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The Seychelles look extremely doubtful against the backdrop of three defeats and a goal difference of 1-19  Grin
If I were to bet, I would bet on Congo, even though they are playing against a clear leader, a random victory here looks more realistic.
I like the bet on the Bahamas (11.0 but you'll find better odds I'm sure) vs St Keys and Nevis. For me these are teams of the same level  Grin

Thank you for your rational thinking, friend. You probably saved me from idiotic bets, I sometimes just need to hear one actual expert point things out like this to me for me to not be an idiot. Congo down 4 goals and Seychelles 1. What was I thinking? Haha

Bahamas 12.4 on Fairlay but I don't have a balance there now, won't make it in time as market closing. And only 10.6 on Sportsbet... I missed out on good odds, but I think some pizza money's good for your tip!


Eh, all the teams ended up losing, but the Bahamas played half the game shorthanded and the score was only 1-0, which makes me think there was value in this bet.
Personally, I have now reached the state I need and am not at all looking for any game to bet on. It seems to me that the most difficult thing is to just wait for value games and not bet simply because there are some games. I plan to start with the third games of the Euro group stage, I think by this time the value of the games will be clear and it will be possible to predict with greater accuracy.
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A lot of controversy is ongoing after Qatar won the world cup qualifying match against India by a margin of 2-1. India were leading by 1-0, after Lallianzuala Chhangte scored a goal in 37th minute. However Qatar equalized in 73rd minute. As per replays, it was clear that the ball has gone out of play, but the referee awarded the goal to Qatar. And then Ahmed Al-Rawi scored another goal for Qatar to put them ahead by a margin of 2-1. If India had drawn this match, then they could have qualified for the next stage.
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I believe that CR7 will be fully physically capable of competing in the 2026 World Cup, don't forget that he is a player who lives for football, training and strict diets have always been the foundation of his routine, he is aging like wine, the The same goes for E.T (Messi), although I think this one is better.

CR7 and Messi are the best generation I have ever seen in football, they are football geniuses who are born once every 100 years.

Even if the great robot fails to win the cup in 2026 for Portugal, he will not give up and will certainly be coach of the Portuguese national team.

Honestly, I was very happy with Argentina's victory thanks to Messi, I would be happy to see CR7 lift the cup for Portugal too, despite 2026 probably being his last chance as an athlete on the field.
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I do not care who says what, Ronaldo will not be able to play at this one. Dude is already 40, he would be like 42 or something by that time, not sure if he will be still playing football at that age but even if we assume that he still plays, he will not be playing at national team when world cup comes.
Ronaldo is already old and I personally don't think he will welcome the idea of playing at the world cup of 2026 which is upcoming. It will equally be surprising if the National team bring him to the fore of the National team. I know quite alright that he has not been able to fulfill his lifetime dream of taking the world cup trophy for the national team but I do not think that will ever happen because he does not have the squad to assist him achieve such milestone. If I was Ronaldo, I will do more of coordinating the team from the bench than playing with them like found in the case of Ahmed Musa of the Super Eagle players of Nigeria in the past AFCON competition which took the team to the finals.
Keep one thing in mind old is gold as keeping Cristiano Ronaldo for the world cup in their national team is good for the Portugal even he is not giving performance like past but still he is the great player and his presence can make good motivation for the all other players his performance in last season here at the Saudi League is clearly telling all story how competitive and good he is at this age and in next two years things will be surely at the same level because he is doing good and having good chance for keeping himself fit the next few seasons as his club Al Nassr is also ready to give him extension which will keep him good for the all big events.

Most chances his role could be player with coordinator or assist coach as well because we all know at the age of 41 he can't stay in ground for the 90 minutes with mostly he will go for the one half or 30 minutes playing time.
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The game between Indonesia and Philippines finished with a clear victory for Indonesia by two goals to zero scored in both halves and Indonesia will remain second.
Iraq will stay in the first position and Vietnam third regardless of today's game result. This match is not that important for Iraq when I see how good they did previously in the group.


Round 3 will be a tough phase for Indonesia. Maybe maintaining the opportunity to be in 4th place will be difficult for Indonesia to achieve. I'm still waiting for the drawing for who will be in the same group with Indonesia. Seeing that the teams that qualify are the teams that have qualified for the previous world cup.
Indonesia has rapid progress recently because last month their junior team can make a history with advances to the semifinal of Asian Cup U23 for the first time and now their senior team also has just make a history too with can able to reach 3rd round of World Cup Qualification and every Indonesian people has selebrate this achievement because they didn't think their country could go this far but round 3rd will be very hard for them because there will be many strong teams that they will face in that round such as Japan, Australia or Saudi Arabia which in the term of quality squad these teams is above to Indonesia and if i am not mistaken drawing round will be helded at June 17

According to the drawing pot Indonesia will be into pot 6 with North Korea and Kuwait so after seeing this situation just like i said above Indonesia potentially will be into the same group with strong opponents however according to the history actually before Indonesia there were several teams from Southeast Asia that were able to qualify for Round 3 and they are Vietnam and Thailand but unfortunately on 3rd round these teams cannot do more even they were very often to lost with huge scores against their opponents and finish at the bottom of Group Table and hopefully this won't be happend to Indonesia later
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Asian zone World Cup qualifiers for group F will have two deciding matches for today and tomorrow because those who remain at the top and can become 2nd place holders in the group will enter the third round.

Indonesia vs Philippines will take place today and it is certain that Indonesia will be the favorite team to achieve victory and be able to maintain its position as the team right below Iraq.
Match will take place at the Gelora Bung Karno Main Stadium, which is also stadium for Indonesia, it is clear that Indonesia have big advantage in being able to achieve victory in this final match.
For Iraq itself, it will fight Vietnam and of course it will be difficult for Vietnam to defeat Iraq, it is very likely that Iraq will win and indirectly also save Indonesia from entering the third round.
Talking about World Cup qualifiers in Asia and predicting the teams there won't be hard at all because World Cup qualifiers will not allow many countries to be in the World Cup comparing the team they have there.
I think teams like the Philippines or Indonesia will have not chance to be in the World Cup even if they get into this tournament, still, they will lose all the three games.
In last few years we are having no positive development into Asian soccer with few countries which need to be had better results and improved quality are stuck with their performance and fail to bring better results which is surely problematic time for them specially few teams like China, Indonesia and India needs to have better results and better performance, but sadly things are not going as needed specially India is having worst even things around them Saudi Arab, Iran, Japan and South Korea are dominating with their quality and performance, and we have some challenge from the Qatar and few countries but here we need some revolutionary changes from the AFC if they want to have better results and quality which will surely increase fans interest in this game.

We are having no Jr level competitions in this region which can bring good development and players also can bring good improvement into their games like we have in UEFA and now African Union is also following team which is helping them for having good results and better teams.
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I do not care who says what, Ronaldo will not be able to play at this one. Dude is already 40, he would be like 42 or something by that time, not sure if he will be still playing football at that age but even if we assume that he still plays, he will not be playing at national team when world cup comes.

Ronaldo is already old and I personally don't think he will welcome the idea of playing at the world cup of 2026 which is upcoming. It will equally be surprising if the National team bring him to the fore of the National team. I know quite alright that he has not been able to fulfill his lifetime dream of taking the world cup trophy for the national team but I do not think that will ever happen because he does not have the squad to assist him achieve such milestone. If I was Ronaldo, I will do more of coordinating the team from the bench than playing with them like found in the case of Ahmed Musa of the Super Eagle players of Nigeria in the past AFCON competition which took the team to the finals.
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We have few days left in last round games with most chances Indonesia will be able to have spot for the next round because they are going to host Philippines at home and Vietnam is going to visit Basra Iraq where most chances home team will be defeat them and this could be good opportunity for them to have qualification in next round even they need to improve their performance but still things are good for them in this qualifying round.

In Asian region, we are having good gape in quality of soccer with just four teams are able to won their all five games and few are having 1 draw but still need to improve quality and having good development for the game if they want to have better results in World Cup with things are never been ideal for them to have this title here in Asian region.
Finally, Indonesian is the only one of ASEAN national teams qualified to the third round after success winning over Philippines on last match adn secured 2nd place under Iraq as first standings position in Group F. I am so happy because my national teams success qualified to third round and waiting the drawing teams will get difficult opponent teams or not.

Currently, the remaining 18 national teams will be divided into three groups, the group winners and runners up will automatically qualify for the world cup and positions 3 and 4 will face the playoff round to compete for the two remaining tickets. Not close opportunities for my national team make dreaming for the first time participants in FIFA World Cup 2026 if can finish on 2nd place position, but the third round has many difficult opponent teams and Indonesian team must improving their performance for getting good result in third round qualifier. Has ten match with 5 home and 5 away must be secure all points as home if want get chance for the second place finish standings.
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I do not care who says what, Ronaldo will not be able to play at this one. Dude is already 40, he would be like 42 or something by that time, not sure if he will be still playing football at that age but even if we assume that he still plays, he will not be playing at national team when world cup comes.

There are already quite limited number of players that teams can send, so that means they are not going to spend one of the slots to a 42 year old Ronaldo, he is already not doing that great, even in 2022 world cup he was benched after a while, and now we are seeing him getting to something four years later? Of course not, he will not have a place. Maybe if they do that like emotionally, like so he would be a leader, but I doubt they would, he doesn't look like a leader at all.
I do agree with this, but in a different approach. I do agree with the part that he could still be called up as a "leader", like a veteran presence, like someone who would be there not to play but to motivate the players and to be fair liked or not Ronaldo is still Ronaldo and I think people would listen to him when he suggests something. When he is a player, if he says something then other players may think that he is just out for himself, but when he is not playing at all, then we are talking about someone who is doing something that will be just for the good of the team.

So, I think if he is playing and he desires to play at that one, then they could still call him up, but I agree that not for playing because he is already not good even now.
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Round 3 will be a tough phase for Indonesia. Maybe maintaining the opportunity to be in 4th place will be difficult for Indonesia to achieve. I'm still waiting for the drawing for who will be in the same group with Indonesia. Seeing that the teams that qualify are the teams that have qualified for the previous world cup.
I don't think the goal is to quality for the World Cup to begin with. We can be optimistic but realistically our run ends in the 3rd round anyway. Still good progress though, especially because we get a spot at the Asian Cup with this. I remember STY said that their target is realistically qualifying for the third round, which has been achieved already, CMIIW. Anyone who claims it is a failure should take a look in the mirror and see how horrendous our last few years in international competition are. A good league is required for sustainable development if we want a good shot at participating in the World Cup, whether in 2026 or not.
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