Topic: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 94. (Read 62822 times)

There will always be different points of view depending on each incident that cannot be accepted by one particular party.
For example when team makes fatal mistake but the referee does not see it clearly and VAR is the only tool to provide clarity then it is certain other cannot accept the even though it is clearly visible in the VAR.
This is one of the technological developments in sports, especially football, and of course it is very helpful, but not all parties will ever accept it well.
Moreover, this is legitimate tool and really provides more real or clearly accurate results and there is no manipulation that can be done so like it or not we all have to accept it.

As time goes by everything will become clearer and we can be sure that developments like this for new innovations in the future will also occur, everything will go with the flow and approval for the use of tools like this is also under FIFA approval.
In the future, we will not see any hidden mistakes because even small things in the match that are taking place can all be caught clearly by VAR.

But that's the problem. People assume that VAR is absolute truth when it's not.

There are many issues that can appear while doing the 3D reconstruction, and maybe the ball was positioned slightly in a wrong place.

For situations in which the goal for example is too close to the ball, this might actually be a problem.

There might be errors with VAR.

The VAR was invented to stop there being so many irregularities, so much corruption and so many injustices, however the refereeing team obviously manipulates the VAR, because they should use the VAR for everything, if a referee decrees that the VAR should not be used They don't even review it, and that is a very bad decision because the human being is going to make mistakes, but if more technology is implemented, more robots, I think that even the aribtral body has something to do only with more precision, then we We must go that way, there should not be any type of complaint, only that the corruption in football ends, I am sure that there are always rigged football matches and with late technology there never will be, that is like the blockchain with bitcoin and fiat money, we are people who will always see things from any point of view to defend human beings, but there is something that we do not have the capacity for, until now the human race has not improved, there is no bionic eye or anything similar, only robots.

The VAR in the next World Cup I hope they give it more power, because Argentina created a tremendous problem because of that, due to the management of its referees, and any team can do it and that is not well seen in soccer, in soccer things must be very transparent, they must be as clear as possible so that things happen, but I hope that the VAR is and has more power, because as I said before, the human eye escapes the things of the football game and that The game of soccer is a speed at which human beings play, and yet they rely on technology to see things, so if they want to have a fairer and cleaner soccer they must give power to technology, the rest will see more corruption Personally, I still see corruption because the VAR audios are no longer filtered or anything, that is something that does not add up, everything should always be done transparently.

What is the difference between the time when we didn't use the VAR system in the World Cup? Years ago we could blame the free because of the human mistake especially whenever a team couldn't get good results in the game.
But these news das they blame the whole VAR system because of mistakes and they blame the referee because of using this system wrongly which is exactly the same and the only difference if now the World Cup is more robot-like and and feels less realistic to people.
I think they had to use the VAR system in the World Cup at least in the two or three tournaments after that when they are sure about this system.

This is why for me the use of VAR is vital in determining the true acts that have happened in a certain event. We don't need to blame the referee or anyone but they can just consult the recording and see for themselves what did really happen inside the arena.

This VAR system will also give fast resolution if there's conflict arising from the game. That is true, you don't need to wait anymore for days just to see what really happened inside the field. Human bias is also getting out of the picture here, which is actually favourable to both teams.

Currently, technology is increasingly sophisticated and sports such as football, which receive attention from all over the world, must adapt to technological advances. I agree with @Leviathan.007 that human error is part of football but I think that is no longer applicable in this day and age. What made human mistakes in the past possible and become part of football was the development of camera and recording technology. You can see that in ancient times the recording system was not as sophisticated as it is today, so controversy could occur and only become known a few days later. This is certainly different from today's recording technology where slight errors can be seen in the re-recording and can cause protests from players and fans immediately after the match. So the use of VAR is an adaptation that must be made in football. I think in the future we will get used to this and be able to enjoy it. Hopefully.

Even we can't stop this technology with many sports are using and having good results as well but still in recent times we have too many controversies as well which are creating problems as well and things are going terrible day by day with many times we are having sorry messages as well which are another story but if they want to use this technology then surely they needed to work on this all and having better depth is also important for the better results.

Now after entering into this new era of technology, sports are losing their natural beauty, but many are believed this is also important for the fair results even this is not happening, and we are facing too many errors as well which are surely matter of concern as well but hopefully in near future version of this technology will improve, and we will be able to have better results which will surely help this all.

In fact, playing in important tournaments like the World Cup needs some more experience from players and that's why mostly the national teams prefer to use their experienced players which is the main reason for players like Messi and Ronaldo to have more chances to play in the 2026 world cup while I think we should also consider their age because I think currently both players and even a player like Neymar are not in the good form and because of getting older they can't have good performance anymore.
Instead, they can start using younger players and get these players ready and more experienced for the World Cup.

He still has the body to play and he has been scoring goals easily at Saudi league where not many people score like him. He is at the top of the list and the only other player who has scored even close to him is a 29 year old prime Mitrovic. Nobody else is even remotely close to Ronaldo at the moment, and the only one who is even within 2 goals has a 30 million euro transfer value right now.

So, when you think about this, you could say that Ronaldo is still good enough to be in that squad, and will stay so for another 2 years I bet. Unless he has a serious injury, in that situation we do not need to even talk about it because he would not be able to play because of the injury and all these talks were nothing at all.

I remember the time when they started using the VAR system in football I was completely against it because I thought this could make the World Cup to show like playing with robots and that's not good however even the VAR system can make mistakes sometimes, I think the human mistake was a part of football from the referee and the old day when they didn't use this system everything was better and more human-like. While I guess we are surely going to see them use the VAR system in the 2026 World Cup for another time.

Cristiano Ronaldo's failure to make a good impact in the 2022 FIFA World Cup that was hosted by Middle East country Qatar doesn't mean that he's still never gonna have a good performance if he happens to make it to the 2026 World Cup finals and and I have a strong reason to back my opinion. During the FIFA World Cup of 2022, Cristiano Ronaldo was simply not the preferred starter for the knockout games that the team played and that's because the then Portugal national team coach Fernando Santos didn't have so much confidence in him to deliver the needed performance that'll help the Portuguese national team to win those knockout games and you don't expect a player that's playing from the bench to instantly turn the results of games when he's been lately substituted in the matches.
That being said, current manager of the Portugal national team Roberto Martinez has a very good relationship with Cristiano Ronaldo and believes so much on the Portuguese superstar and that's why Ronaldo have been scoring a lot of goals for the Portugal national team since the new manager took over the managerial position of the team. So should Cristiano Ronaldo be fit enough to feature for his country during the 2026 FIFA World Cup tournament, I think the current manager of team will give him more playing time to prove himself and for a player like Cristiano Ronaldo who we all know has the ability to deliver great performances even when he's under pressure, I think he'll be more impactful in that tournament than he was at the 2022 tournament.

Because of his age, many are still doubting the possibility of seeing Cristiano Ronaldo play at the next edition of FIFA World Cup since he's going to be 41 by that time but as someone who's been following up with the player and how he's been very intentional with his fitness over the years, I think there's a possibility of witnessing another FIFA World Cup that Ronaldo will strongly participate in as a professional footballer

Yeah, I mean, right now the VAR is a team of a lot of people plus software and smart cameras, etc.

But all of that means nothing if they are not right there in the field, which the referee is.

At the end of the day you will never know if VAR is making fake calls or just wrong ones. It's all simply made by a computer. There are bugs in software, and the 3D view they make definitely has errors.

So, even when it's a close call, the errors of the VAR system, which are by the way unknown to the public, should not weight more than what the referee thinks actually happen.

VAR should be used as an auxiliary tool in case of doubts that the referee cannot resolve, never as an absolute truth, and not as the main reference... Soon the referee will be a mere supporting player in football, as his decisions can be challenged at any time, always giving preference to VAR

I mean there "could" be VAR system tampered with, I have seen it before, it wasn't really a question mark when that happened, but would it? I mean it has to be something very questionable to begin with. Like how can you exactly know what is a foul, what is a yellow card and what is a red card? We can argue what those are all day long, but when a ref shows yellow instead of red, you will not really know about it.

So, there are things that can be obvious, like if someone is 8 meters ahead, that is guaranteed offside, VAR can't play with that, but what if they are just 5 inches forward with single arm? Then they could take it a single millisecond before and make him look he was behind. So there are things that it can tamper with, but it's very very limited.

I don't really know if Ronaldo is going to play on the next world cup.

Last one he wasn't really performing at the top level, and you could see that he was almost done.

Maybe we will see him in the ads, like Pirlo for example.

Well.. you know that is not the case. Here in India, matches from Saudi Professional League are streamed live on the Sony LIV OTT platform, and I regularly watch the matches of Al Nassr. And I would say that although Ronaldo is in great form so far this season, ageing has taken its toll. He might have performed quite well in the UEFA qualifiers. But then playing against Andorra or Liechtenstein in UEFA qualifier is one thing, and playing against Argentina or France in the FIFA World Cup is another.

Ronaldo is having a good performance even in this game and he is playing well yet like he is a 25-year-old player. But he is going to be older in 2026 when they want him to play in the 2026 World Cup.
Compared to players like Messi who are on the same level as Ronaldo, I think he can have a much higher chance to play in the 2026 World Cup and finally, in the upcoming World Cup, we are going see him playing for Portugal for the last time in his life.

The thing is that you have to trust the VAR guys are making the 3D reconstruction correctly.

What if there is a mistake in the pipeline? It is a complex problem and it is not 100% accurate.

The issue is that many people assume VAR is always right, but that's not the case.

At least for now the last word is the referee, but that might change in the future.

Through the history of the world cup it has always not been an easy one to win the world cup back to back or in a roll at once so if Argentina finds it difficult to defend the trophy by the next world cup tournament I wouldn't make a big deal out of it because some how I know that it's not been an easy thing to maintain so if they happen to not be able to maintain it they have tried to actually win it the other time a d qualified again to come try to defend it so it's really a good attempts.

Not having Messi in the next world cup is something wer are not too certain about yet but then it's very clear at this point that by then he may not have age on his side no more because he will probably be aged and his performance will deteriorate but then having new talents around to help the team is actually something that will really help the team get to the point that they will do well in the world cup but no doubts of the impact of Messi's presence in that team, if he's present even if he doesn't get enough play time but it will be enough boost to the confidence of the team having Messi around and they will be motivated to want to win or get far in the competition well enough so its very likely they will have Messi around regardless of the role he will be playing in the team but he's sure going to be around them in the tournament.

Do you guys think that the VAR system can be tempered with? Can the things that are shown be manipulated? This is a very modern era we live in so a lot of things are definitely possible. But I don't know. Even though we have seen a lot of people complain about this system.

I believe two things are possible in this case.
It is always rigged when your team is losing.
Anything can be manipulated if the proper people are paid enough money.

So I don't think we have to worry too much about the VAR right now. Even though we have a lot of AI systems to manipulate a lot of things, I don't think we are at that level yet where we will be able to fabricate a live video in moments.

I saw this video and I actually don't think he is entirely wrong, to be honest.

https://youtu.be/On1G5G_-0FM?si=MttlkccUaK2B81hw