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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on September 15, 2022, 02:19:49 AM

Tennis is one of the games I will never bet with my money, the chance of winning is too low and it is not about teamwork that you can be betting on the form of most members of the team. Many players are disappointing, especially the highly rated ones. If you check the table of the world's tennis players (both male and female), you would realize that the world ranking is changing so fast. So, anything can happen. To make the matter more surprising, it is the youngsters that are taking the lead now, the number in the world ranking (male) is 19 years old. This is last week's ranking.

I prefer football, but people also have different preferences. I do not like going for lawn tennis, but I prefer its in-play. To me, I see sport as sport, people even lose very well in football. I think it depends on preferences, some people have fun in the process of betting, especially those that stake just very small amount of money on each bet.

Quote from: Zackgeno96 on September 15, 2022, 02:07:56 PM

Value bets and arbitrage bets make a world of difference. And then with value bets we also have different types of value bets. When is something a true value bet? I think you're going to go back to an arbitrage bet anyway, because the odds are changing drastically. There are players who make a lot of money with value bets, but you can also count on your account being closed quickly with a bookmaker. Value betting is actually consciously looking for errors in the API. I think bookmakers should be tougher on this if a player is always doing this.

You only want to divert away from what the OP is talking about. A value bet is when you choose a team or a player with the odd having more probability of winning. If a player have 1.25 odds and have very high probability of winning, that is a value bet. But there are just some low odds that does not worth going for.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on September 15, 2022, 02:07:56 PM

Value bets and arbitrage bets make a world of difference. And then with value bets we also have different types of value bets. When is something a true value bet? I think you're going to go back to an arbitrage bet anyway, because the odds are changing drastically. There are players who make a lot of money with value bets, but you can also count on your account being closed quickly with a bookmaker. Value betting is actually consciously looking for errors in the API. I think bookmakers should be tougher on this if a player is always doing this.

You will be banned or closed account if you abuse the system using value bets this is why you need to be aware of the consequences and the ability to change the course of your gambling activities .

You can use other strategy instead of using one because this will hinder your account from being closed by the bookmakers .

I do not use value betting instead I focus in my direct betting towards which team or fighter I am going to choose and risk my funds.

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If the odds are low but it looks like a sure win then parlay it. That is what I do when I am having a difficult time deciding if it's worth the bet.
Sometimes I play different sports that I do not know and look for low odds just to add in a long parlay and maximize the profits.
In regards, if it's a value bet, no if you risking a large amount of money. Imagine pouring $1000 in one bet and all you can win is $100 while if a sudden unexpected thing happens you will lose 10 fold of the winning bet.
I like risks, but this is not the type that I want. Most of the time going for underdogs with lesser bets but high winnings.

Yeah, but the problem in parlay is the risk as well, you can have multiple bets, but it will be completely destroyed when one of value bets loses. And the odds are not going to be high, it won't even go 1.50 if you have like 1.10 or lower multiple bets.

So it's really hard to bet on this so called value bets, yeah chances are very high, but there are chances that they might still be upset in the end. Unless everything really falls into it, multiple bets all winning whether the odds are very high or very attractive.

I have always thought of that type of betting, where everyone is sure to win, they put large amounts of money to make it something profitable in terms of their personal situation, and particularly when one makes a not-so-big bet, that is, not to lose so much money and if the result is given, it is like winning a lottery, of course the people who do this do not take risks, because they know very well that some are very guided by statistics, for me this will change a lot when they go to seek new horizons in the world Because the World Cup will undoubtedly bring very good surprises for me, and I could say that the first meeting could be a surprise.

Something unexpected might happen from the first meeting a surprise where a risk takers can win a huge amount of profits if top caliber team got upset by an underdog squad, just like what you have said it's a different venue and a full of surprises but it's also a good place for every gambler who loves to watch and enjoy the game.

Quote from: pawanjain on September 03, 2022, 09:43:00 AM

For me, a bet where I am getting decent returns on a bet that is most probably about to win would be a value bet.
For example if I am placing a bet where I know that I would most probably win this bet and if the returns are over 1.5x times then I would consider it as a value bet.
The chances of winning the bet should be at least over 85% in this case. I have played such bets few times and won in most of the cases.

The odd is decent enough if you can repeat it over and over. You can earn huge with your initial capital. Though there's no assurance that you do it in every bet that you made, the chance to lose is still there even if you think the percentage of your chance is over 85%, there's still something that will ruined your pick and lead you to lose your money.

Well, undoubtedly we have to keep in mind that every time we make a bet, we are having a certain percentage of guarantee that what we are saying will happen, but the highest percentage is due to luck and randomness, the downside of this is that when a person believes that he is on a roll, he is capable of betting a large amount of money causing his money to drop drastically and this is not good, because anyone can be decaptilized in hours, and this is not what is sought, we all want to win when we bet, but we must be aware of accepting everything that comes if we lose, normally a person always thinks only of winning, never thinks of the consequences of losing and if he does, it is very fast.

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Value bets and arbitrage bets make a world of difference. And then with value bets we also have different types of value bets. When is something a true value bet? I think you're going to go back to an arbitrage bet anyway, because the odds are changing drastically. There are players who make a lot of money with value bets, but you can also count on your account being closed quickly with a bookmaker. Value betting is actually consciously looking for errors in the API. I think bookmakers should be tougher on this if a player is always doing this.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on September 15, 2022, 02:19:49 AM

Tennis is one of the games I will never bet with my money, the chance of winning is too low and it is not about teamwork that you can be betting on the form of most members of the team. Many players are disappointing, especially the highly rated ones. If you check the table of the world's tennis players (both male and female), you would realize that the world ranking is changing so fast. So, anything can happen. To make the matter more surprising, it is the youngsters that are taking the lead now, the number in the world ranking (male) is 19 years old. This is last week's ranking.

What I know is that in tennis, there are modes in which the game is being played by 4 people. 2 on one side and 2 on the other but I think it's more easier to predict when the game is only played by 2 people because they will mostly rely on their own ability. If they are skillful enough then they can win, while if they work with a team or another player, some of the members may not really be doing well which can affect the overall performance of the team.

If you think your winning chance in tennis is low, that means your knowledge in regards to the players/game is also low but this can always be improved if you watch more tennis games.

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Tennis is one of the games I will never bet with my money, the chance of winning is too low and it is not about teamwork that you can be betting on the form of most members of the team. Many players are disappointing, especially the highly rated ones. If you check the table of the world's tennis players (both male and female), you would realize that the world ranking is changing so fast. So, anything can happen. To make the matter more surprising, it is the youngsters that are taking the lead now, the number in the world ranking (male) is 19 years old. This is last week's ranking.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on July 04, 2022, 06:42:39 AM

It's tough to do sports betting live and find those value bets. I used to do it on football's Premier League and/or La Liga. I usually bet on the favorite when the underdog leads at halftime or when they score first with plenty of time left in the second. Pre-match odds of 1.20 easily goes up to 1.50 or higher when that happens. If you're going to do it too, try to check if the momentum of the game is shifting or not before placing a bet. It also helps if you understand the sport and know the teams well.

Prediction of bet is not something you easily get accurately through live, but some people do get but not as many we thought of. Everything about betting prediction it's depend on individual luck but a situation of taking it as necessity it's not really fine through what I'm seeing now. Because live bet i dont remember when last i have seen people giving testimony of good work or not. That's what exactly I'm emphasising on.

We real gambler actually knew things such that so either find your luck ? or find your losses because the money you risk is the amount that supposed to lose so best to check it out or accept the consequences .

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It's hard to guess, bookies worked based on algorithm, so it's hard to outsmart them actually.

I had some instances in the past where the favorite team is -5.5 on the pregame, but when they are down big, they have a +10.5 line in live betting, I took it and in the end I still regret because I lose. There's no opportunity with that, bookies knows that the public will take it but in reality it's just a bait.

Always depends on how the player or the team will perform. I understand that bookies use algorithms which are based on a system
that they've used, it's tough to exploit that system and for sure it is their advantage.

That kind of example of yours is the reality that happened real time. Gamblers most of the time got trapped with how bookies provide the
odds, especially with heavy favorite.

Even you're done with your deep research, and you anticipate that you have a good advantage, it's still ending up losing your bet.

expect losses so you wont be frustrated , gambling is somewhere we must understand that losing is a simple part of the system and winning is the hardest one.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on September 12, 2022, 08:16:24 AM

It's hard to guess, bookies worked based on algorithm, so it's hard to outsmart them actually.

I had some instances in the past where the favorite team is -5.5 on the pregame, but when they are down big, they have a +10.5 line in live betting, I took it and in the end I still regret because I lose. There's no opportunity with that, bookies knows that the public will take it but in reality it's just a bait.

Always depends on how the player or the team will perform. I understand that bookies use algorithms which are based on a system
that they've used, it's tough to exploit that system and for sure it is their advantage.

That kind of example of yours is the reality that happened real time. Gamblers most of the time got trapped with how bookies provide the
odds, especially with heavy favorite.

Even you're done with your deep research, and you anticipate that you have a good advantage, it's still ending up losing your bet.

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I will speak from my own experience:

Until some time when I watched a soccer game, it was normal for a team to be winning by 2 - 0 and the odd was at @1.12 I thought: "if I bet and guaranteed victory" but to my shock and that when I reached 72 minutes the team that was losing the game managed to draw and win the game, it was something shocking. so I thought: " I'm going to start placing bets with odds of @1.50 and I could even win some games, but I only had to lose 2 games for all my victories to become useless, so I changed to odds of @2.00 and realized the following: a bet value is one in which the person knows that if he wins his effort to keep doing analysis it will be rewarded, and the person will be in profit in the long run

I've bet on so many matches that ended with a goal in added time or it come down to the penalties or one team was losing and then it scored twice in 10 minutes...
You can never be sure of your bets unless it's an MMA fight of an experienced champion with some big guy that came from weightlifting with no fighting experience or like they put McGregor vs Mayweather. These things where you can be somewhat sure are rare though.

This is why it is so difficult to become a successful sports bettor, when it comes to team sports there are so many variables that it is almost impossible to make the right call no matter how hard you study the game, after all in a soccer match you have 11 players by each team, so you have at minimum 22 variables and that is without even taking into account substitutions.

In contrast when it comes to sports which are played by a single individual then it becomes slightly easier to predict what it may happen, but I suppose casinos take this into account and protect themselves by increasing their house edge.

There are some player already decided where did they bet and the game itself allowing their users to make a change bet before the match starts like most likely is with the 10 mins before the game starts by that some of the people make a manipulation with the odds because some of them trick other players who just always makes an odd to the higher chance of winning the game but instead the underdog wins the game. Also sports betting must need to have a good understand with the team and the players gameplay to get a chance to where to bet as a safe thing to do.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 12, 2022, 03:13:18 AM

And after we do the research to choose the team, we only know how much to bet and will not cross that line because we will risk losing later. In that research, we try to find the right team for us to choose so that the chance of winning will be there.

And maybe continuing to do research and trying to choose the team will increase our experience so that in the future, we will have no difficulty choosing each team because we already have an idea choose the team. But don't forget that in every game, there will be changes so we have to be able to analyze it properly.

A good practices that will allow us to enhance our analysis, everything should always be according to how we plan it and not to exceed from our targets, value bets are available, it just needed to sort all the potentials. Never to forget to do deeper research. It really helps to increase your chance of winning your pick.

Gamblers who have a better money management skills also have an extra edge when dividing their balance, unlike with an ordinary gambler who randomly place bets, experience gamblers most of the time keep looking for value bets, even they will win small odd they are okay with it.

There are lots of strategy and system that those gamblers are following and using when betting, they are betting according to how they see believe they will going to win.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 04, 2022, 04:44:39 PM

I will speak from my own experience:

Until some time when I watched a soccer game, it was normal for a team to be winning by 2 - 0 and the odd was at @1.12 I thought: "if I bet and guaranteed victory" but to my shock and that when I reached 72 minutes the team that was losing the game managed to draw and win the game, it was something shocking. so I thought: " I'm going to start placing bets with odds of @1.50 and I could even win some games, but I only had to lose 2 games for all my victories to become useless, so I changed to odds of @2.00 and realized the following: a bet value is one in which the person knows that if he wins his effort to keep doing analysis it will be rewarded, and the person will be in profit in the long run

I've bet on so many matches that ended with a goal in added time or it come down to the penalties or one team was losing and then it scored twice in 10 minutes...
You can never be sure of your bets unless it's an MMA fight of an experienced champion with some big guy that came from weightlifting with no fighting experience or like they put McGregor vs Mayweather. These things where you can be somewhat sure are rare though.

This is why it is so difficult to become a successful sports bettor, when it comes to team sports there are so many variables that it is almost impossible to make the right call no matter how hard you study the game, after all in a soccer match you have 11 players by each team, so you have at minimum 22 variables and that is without even taking into account substitutions.

In contrast when it comes to sports which are played by a single individual then it becomes slightly easier to predict what it may happen, but I suppose casinos take this into account and protect themselves by increasing their house edge.

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It's hard to guess, bookies worked based on algorithm, so it's hard to outsmart them actually.

I had some instances in the past where the favorite team is -5.5 on the pregame, but when they are down big, they have a +10.5 line in live betting, I took it and in the end I still regret because I lose. There's no opportunity with that, bookies knows that the public will take it but in reality it's just a bait.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on July 04, 2022, 06:42:39 AM

It's tough to do sports betting live and find those value bets. I used to do it on football's Premier League and/or La Liga. I usually bet on the favorite when the underdog leads at halftime or when they score first with plenty of time left in the second. Pre-match odds of 1.20 easily goes up to 1.50 or higher when that happens. If you're going to do it too, try to check if the momentum of the game is shifting or not before placing a bet. It also helps if you understand the sport and know the teams well.

Prediction of bet is not something you easily get accurately through live, but some people do get but not as many we thought of. Everything about betting prediction it's depend on individual luck but a situation of taking it as necessity it's not really fine through what I'm seeing now. Because live bet i dont remember when last i have seen people giving testimony of good work or not. That's what exactly I'm emphasising on.

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 10, 2022, 11:30:39 AM

The underdog sometimes is more determined to win and we could see it in some matches where the underdog performed better. That's the reason why we shouldn't underestimate the least favorite player because anything could happen in the middle of the game. If a player has a huge number of odds it doesn't mean that he will win the match. We should always expect the unexpected.

You can expect anything, the problem is how to value bet. Yesterday, when Juventus were losing 0-2, the odds of Juventus winning at the beginning of the second half were only 8.4, but then by the end of the game they rose to 80. Was it right in this situation to bet on Juventus? After all, that goal could have been counted. It seems to me that given how often the situation reverses in stoppage time, betting on odds of 80-100 at the end of the game makes sense.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 10, 2022, 11:16:40 AM

You said it right, underdog sometimes disappoint heavy favorite. It's not new to gambling where upset happened and it's in all the sports, we can't always assume that the weak team will lose or the weak fighter or player will lose surely, there are times that a bad day happen with the players / teams /fighters and it will result to unexpected losses.

You can analyze the game and expect that your prediction was right, but the assurance, no one can tell unless you are betting with fixed matches, which is another topic to discuss, but with fair games, the outcome can be conclude after the game.

Besides that, we have also seen teams that are not favorites who can excel from a strong team because they can rise at the right time when a strong team underestimates the strength of a weak team. And that analysis many people miss because they never predict if a weak team can't beat a strong team. This happens in many games and surprises those who choose a weak team.

But with analysis, at least we can see how far the estimated strength of each team is so that we can choose the team that we think can win later. And if we're undecided with both teams, it's probably best that we don't have to bet just yet.

It added up and that kind of determination push their talent and skill to exceed from their limits, in a fair and square game what I mean if there's no manipulation or game fixing the weak or underdog use that position to prove that they are worth to support, and there are many upset just like what we both mentioned, it's everywhere and no specific sports.

As long as you do your research and you are following paths or strategy in picking the favorite, the chance of winning is good.

Upset should always be on your plan in case you suffer from defeat. You need to move forward. Good mindset gives you a better overview on your next try.

And after we do the research to choose the team, we only know how much to bet and will not cross that line because we will risk losing later. In that research, we try to find the right team for us to choose so that the chance of winning will be there.

And maybe continuing to do research and trying to choose the team will increase our experience so that in the future, we will have no difficulty choosing each team because we already have an idea choose the team. But don't forget that in every game, there will be changes so we have to be able to analyze it properly.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 04, 2022, 04:44:39 PM

I will speak from my own experience:

Until some time when I watched a soccer game, it was normal for a team to be winning by 2 - 0 and the odd was at @1.12 I thought: "if I bet and guaranteed victory" but to my shock and that when I reached 72 minutes the team that was losing the game managed to draw and win the game, it was something shocking. so I thought: " I'm going to start placing bets with odds of @1.50 and I could even win some games, but I only had to lose 2 games for all my victories to become useless, so I changed to odds of @2.00 and realized the following: a bet value is one in which the person knows that if he wins his effort to keep doing analysis it will be rewarded, and the person will be in profit in the long run

I've bet on so many matches that ended with a goal in added time or it come down to the penalties or one team was losing and then it scored twice in 10 minutes...
You can never be sure of your bets unless it's an MMA fight of an experienced champion with some big guy that came from weightlifting with no fighting experience or like they put McGregor vs Mayweather. These things where you can be somewhat sure are rare though.

Unfortunately what you are talking about doesn't exist, when the outcome has more than 99% chances to happen, bookmakers don't offer markets to bet on it or with odds of @1.00 only. It means you won't get any winnings by betting on it. A value bet is when you have more chances to win than what odds are saying. Then even odds of @2.00 could be a value bet. If you have 60% chances to win for example, a 1:1 reward is a good opportunity within value.

The only time that I've seen these odds are during live bets. The lowest that I've saw on sportsbooks are 1.12, and if you see that event you automatically check the matchup and see if there is a potential for an upset. You don't ignore these low odds at all, you need to check whether the opponent has the capability to go against the favorite. I've bet on a lot of heavy underdogs in Dota 2 a few years back and made quite a lot of skins from that alone. Or, you have to find lines wherein you can squeeze every single point you can in order to convert it to a more profitable bet.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 10, 2022, 11:38:36 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 10, 2022, 11:16:40 AM

You said it right, underdog sometimes disappoint heavy favorite. It's not new to gambling where upset happened and it's in all the sports, we can't always assume that the weak team will lose or the weak fighter or player will lose surely, there are times that a bad day happen with the players / teams /fighters and it will result to unexpected losses.

You can analyze the game and expect that your prediction was right, but the assurance, no one can tell unless you are betting with fixed matches, which is another topic to discuss, but with fair games, the outcome can be conclude after the game.

Besides that, we have also seen teams that are not favorites who can excel from a strong team because they can rise at the right time when a strong team underestimates the strength of a weak team. And that analysis many people miss because they never predict if a weak team can't beat a strong team. This happens in many games and surprises those who choose a weak team.

But with analysis, at least we can see how far the estimated strength of each team is so that we can choose the team that we think can win later. And if we're undecided with both teams, it's probably best that we don't have to bet just yet.

It added up and that kind of determination push their talent and skill to exceed from their limits, in a fair and square game what I mean if there's no manipulation or game fixing the weak or underdog use that position to prove that they are worth to support, and there are many upset just like what we both mentioned, it's everywhere and no specific sports.

As long as you do your research and you are following paths or strategy in picking the favorite, the chance of winning is good.

Upset should always be on your plan in case you suffer from defeat. You need to move forward. Good mindset gives you a better overview on your next try.

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 10, 2022, 11:30:39 AM

The underdog sometimes is more determined to win and we could see it in some matches where the underdog performed better. That's the reason why we shouldn't underestimate the least favorite player because anything could happen in the middle of the game. If a player has a huge number of odds it doesn't mean that he will win the match. We should always expect the unexpected.

There are some times the underdog will not perform better but scored and finally able to defend the goal scored. There are sometimes the underdog would also perform better. This is one of the reasons I do not like to bet before a match is about to start or already started, because I would like the know the players that are playing.

I remember some years ago that I chose Juventus to win over Palmar that was relegating, 3 Juventus key players did not play because they were preparing for Champions League final, semi final or quarter final (I do not remember vividly, but it is among the three). Palmar won the match.

But aside that, even when strong teams are playing well and strong, they may meet an underdog in a way that the underdog would finally win the strong club. It is a competition, the stronger club has more chances to win, but there are still little chances that the underdog may win too, which may be what might happen.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 10, 2022, 11:16:40 AM

You said it right, underdog sometimes disappoint heavy favorite. It's not new to gambling where upset happened and it's in all the sports, we can't always assume that the weak team will lose or the weak fighter or player will lose surely, there are times that a bad day happen with the players / teams /fighters and it will result to unexpected losses.

You can analyze the game and expect that your prediction was right, but the assurance, no one can tell unless you are betting with fixed matches, which is another topic to discuss, but with fair games, the outcome can be conclude after the game.

Besides that, we have also seen teams that are not favorites who can excel from a strong team because they can rise at the right time when a strong team underestimates the strength of a weak team. And that analysis many people miss because they never predict if a weak team can't beat a strong team. This happens in many games and surprises those who choose a weak team.

But with analysis, at least we can see how far the estimated strength of each team is so that we can choose the team that we think can win later. And if we're undecided with both teams, it's probably best that we don't have to bet just yet.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 04, 2022, 04:44:39 PM

I will speak from my own experience:

Until some time when I watched a soccer game, it was normal for a team to be winning by 2 - 0 and the odd was at @1.12 I thought: "if I bet and guaranteed victory" but to my shock and that when I reached 72 minutes the team that was losing the game managed to draw and win the game, it was something shocking. so I thought: " I'm going to start placing bets with odds of @1.50 and I could even win some games, but I only had to lose 2 games for all my victories to become useless, so I changed to odds of @2.00 and realized the following: a bet value is one in which the person knows that if he wins his effort to keep doing analysis it will be rewarded, and the person will be in profit in the long run

I've bet on so many matches that ended with a goal in added time or it come down to the penalties or one team was losing and then it scored twice in 10 minutes...
You can never be sure of your bets unless it's an MMA fight of an experienced champion with some big guy that came from weightlifting with no fighting experience or like they put McGregor vs Mayweather. These things where you can be somewhat sure are rare though.

Unfortunately what you are talking about doesn't exist, when the outcome has more than 99% chances to happen, bookmakers don't offer markets to bet on it or with odds of @1.00 only. It means you won't get any winnings by betting on it. A value bet is when you have more chances to win than what odds are saying. Then even odds of @2.00 could be a value bet. If you have 60% chances to win for example, a 1:1 reward is a good opportunity within value.

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