Topic: First bitcoin related suicide? - page 5. (Read 12018 times)

Unfortunately not quite - most people with mental health issues are NOT under constant supervision (and in fact should not be unless it's absolutely necessary).

Neither do they not have the ability to act. Do not read "mental illness" as the hollywood depiction of someone shouting at invisible voices in their head, it's far more complex than that and suicidal depression in itself is a mental illness which manifests purely as regular old depression combined with suicidal ideation.

Ah! That brings another beast into the equation... perhaps a slightly different beast? This piece is out of my league; way too many variables for me to even pretend I know what I'd be talking about. So I guess in this situation, the mentally ill person making the threats has immediate supervision (therefore no opportunity), don't have the ability to act, so their life isn't in jeopardy? Just can't imagine a non response in situations where opportunity, ability, and jeopardy exists.

I've run online communities for autistics who tend to also have various mental health problems, including suicide threats - and in every case i've reported a threat to law enforcement they only acted if there was an imminent danger of an actual attempt, otherwise they advised it was not their role and stated that I should contact the individual's healthcare provider.

To be fair, in cases of an imminent attempt (i.e a person posted "i've just taken a bottle of pills") the police were quick to locate them and act. Simply seeing someone express suicidal thoughts was never enough to get law enforcement to respond.

I have up close and personal experience actually. I'm not sure what type of work you do; a public servant/work in civil services... if this applies to you --> Just understand that you too could be named in a lawsuit should someone call LE because their spouse is having suicidal thoughts, LE don't respond for a 'welfare check' and the person follows through. Depending on your role, you could be named a defendant vice witness. I'd have to know more to determine whether vicarious or another form of secondary liability would apply.

But hell, with today's laws, people can sue for anything, right?   Let me get pulled over for intoxication (will never happen, I don't drink) and LE let me go with a warning and I get into a wreck and hurt myself or someone... I'd sue their asses for jeopardizing my life and others' because they failed to arrest me for DUI. Really I wouldn't sue, that's just an example to show you how far things can go.

Back on topic, perhaps you have a lazy department servicing your municipality, or they're just pulling a fast one over your eyes, IDK. Not all of them are good, and we all know the uninformed are taken advantage of. But if I were you, I'd become informed; just so I'd know I'm protected if something like that ever happened. Just saying. Sorry - I know I talk too damn much.

Maybe you've had better experience than me, but in all the cases i've contacted law enforcement over someone suicidal they've only responded if the person in question was making an active attempt - they did not respond when it was simply suicidal ideation without an active attempt.

When there is an active attempt, they will intervene, otherwise their response has usually been "not our role".

If there's no actual plan in place or no attempt then police will in fact not usually be of a lot of use - I have direct personal experience in this area and know what i'm talking about. In my experience (and i've had to handle way too many cases of suicidal people to count) law enforcement will respond if someone is RIGHT THERE AND THEN making an attempt, but otherwise will not respond to pure suicidal ideation.

The way to help people is to get them to see a psychiatrist.

You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement  would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country. And before anyone starts with the b.s. about snitching. This isn't about a dime bag or other nonsense. Someone made a post that in substance said that they wanted to kill themself. ---- if his initial post is legit, your intention is to save his life.

I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not.

You've heard of suicide-by-cop, so is this the first suicide-by-Romans (or is it suicide-by-Jews, for I'm not that versed on the verses?)?

It's a risky idea if they have a gun.
Usually attempted(failed) suicides are pill related.
If he/she has not thoroughly researched suicide he/she will probably just swallow some pills and alcohol, pass out, vomit, wake up in a pool of his/her own puke.

If he/she is foolish in the pill he/she attempts to use for suicide, he/she may be left with some permanent damage.
If the OP does read this after waking up in vomit, seek medical attention.
They can purge your system if you act fast.

Seeing the fibonacci sequence in nature helps me realize we were created by intelligent design. From flowers, sea shells, spider webs, oak trees, pinecones, pineapples, all the way to galaxies. AWESOME!

The popular Christian belief is that Jesus died for ALL of your sins.
Suicidal individuals that believe they will go to heaven, are more likely to commit suicide.

When dealing with suicidal individuals, avoid anything that may have any good after death experiences(most religions).
Take the person to a morg and let them touch a cold body instead.
Nothing like seeing a real dead person, to scare the suicidal thoughts right out of someone.

Letting them attempt suicide also works pretty good, alot of really anguished thoughts cross a suicidal persons mind while attempting suicide.

I recommended the book and method as it takes ALOT of prep, during which most people would come to their senses.

How so? Come on man.

I think the 1st suicide will be a dogecoiner.

such delusion, very overdose, wow, much self-destruction.

I like this parable and parables in general, but Ive personally seen people use this particular parable to their advantage on their elderly parents. So I have mixed feelings about it.

What's the moral?

Luke 15:11-32

New International Version (NIV)
The Parable of the Lost Son

11 Jesus continued: “There was a man who had two sons. 12 The younger one said to his father, ‘Father, give me my share of the estate.’ So he divided his property between them.

13 “Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14 After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15 So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16 He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.

17 “When he came to his senses, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18 I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19 I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired servants.’ 20 So he got up and went to his father.

“But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.

21 “The son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’

22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate. 24 For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ So they began to celebrate.

25 “Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27 ‘Your brother has come,’ he replied, ‘and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.’

28 “The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29 But he answered his father, ‘Look! All these years I’ve been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30 But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!’

31 “‘My son,’ the father said, ‘you are always with me, and everything I have is yours.
32 But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’”

Do you have no heart man? No heart at all? I was in line the other day at In-N-Out getting myself a delicious burger. I was waiting 14 cars deep. I was there 45 minutes in the line. I was bored and tired and not hungry after all of that. But I knew my wife would still want a burger so I proceeded to wait. When I pulled up to the window I asked how much and they said it was free! So ... why? Why free? They said the person in front of me paid for my bill. WOW. It was a revelation moment that there is some little bit of good in the world. So I paid it forward by paying the persons bill in the car behind me. I hope it kept going after that. Talk about awesome!

Next time youre in line someplace... just f**king randomly pay for the person behind you. See how the world reacts. Thing about positive thoughts always. If you are not into paying the guy behind you.... do it with a $10 dollar bill. Hold it in your hands, think about the world and the universe and ask the universe how you can help out with that little $10. Think about it all day. The universe will answer back to you, I promise. It might be an old lady without a home needing a meal, or a man on the side of the road who needs $10 for gasoline, or even a woman who gives kisses for $10. Ha! It could be anything, but it will be something and you will feel connected to everyone including me and Chris and Gareth and Dev.