Topic: FIRST Peer-2-Peer betting website. NO HOUSE & NO DEALER 1$ UNLIMITED GAINS - page 6. (Read 1785 times)

Just now I tried from my phone and from chrome browser, website loaded within 7 sec for me and I think it's a normal loading time for such gambling sites. Are you sure your browser is up to date? Have you tried after clear cache? I will suggest try it with some other internet providers from your friends. If you using broadband then try to refresh by resetting and also try some other providers. This problem would happend from them as well. Since its working for me and for some other as well, so it should work for you as well.

What OS are you using? If windows 10 then try to flush DNS https://www.technipages.com/flush-and-reset-the-dns-resolver-cache-using-ipconfig or simply reset your router.I can access the site without any problems.

Im fully aware with that ISP connection tricks or whatsoever and i can tell that this isnt connected to that yet i can play 2x tabs of youtube videos that having 4k reso.So my connection isnt the issue for sure.

I do have plan on accessing it on other browser aside from Chrome and lets see if theres some changes in loading times.

Is it always loading so slow? Your bandwidth looks fine to me. Do you have any traffic shaping software or maybe your ISP? I m asking because ISPs increase bandwidth to/from known speed test sites but your actual bandwidth could bee 10-20-30 times slower. They do this often to make more money tricking clients. There are tools that can give you an accurate number in regards to your uploads/download speed. I suggest checking this site out:

https://www.howtogeek.com/165481/how-to-test-if-your-isp-is-throttling-your-internet-connection/

It shouldnt on problem considering on my current connection.

The site usually loads in less than 2 seconds. We are not using a CDN (content delivery network), so depending on where you are it might take longer but 15 to 30 seconds is WAY too much. Can you do a speed test? Here s a link: https://www.speedtest.net/

I dont know if im the only one who do experience such long loading issue.I do have fast internet connection but the site loads up 15-30 seconds using up Chrome?

Got it finally. I think it would be better if you highlighted this part in the op since this can get confusing really quickly. 

Makes sense. I got into the habit of using the bonuses whenever I sign up on gambling sites which is why I expected the same from this site, but I understand why you guys cannot provide bonuses currently. However, it is good to see you guys conducting a signature campaign to increase exposure.

The site was down due to hosting company issues but it s back online now. The exchange rate is ALWAYS the same, 10,000 Betcoins for 1 Bitcoin. The plan is to expand the currency but for now it remains within Betroom's boundary. There is an automated conversion happening behind the scenes such that the user will never need to exchange manually.

Regarding bonuses, we cannot afford to offer bonuses due to the fact that we only take a 3% service charge for buying tickets. We are NOT a traditional casino that offers bonuses and then takes them back 10-fold. We are on the opposing side of traditional gambling. We offer fast paced games for people to play against other people and we offer them equal chances of winning the pot, an offer that casinos can NEVER match. Above that, we don t have ANY odds of winning in the games. All games are designed to place a small bet worth less than 1$ and potentially get back a virtually unlimited amount, depending on how large the pot is.

Aside from everything said, players do NOT have to beat the odds to win any game, they need to be just better than everyone else, better than their peers to win the pot. Let s take the Stock Market Mania game for example. In the real stock market if you lose money, you are a loser basically. Here, at Betroom, even if your ending capital is below your starting capital at the end of the trading session, but you are above everyone else, you STILL take the pot, you still WIN. All games are designed in the same way such that people do not have to guess the exact outcome of an event, they have to be closer to the actual value than their peers to win the pot. This is something new in the industry and a totally different approach to the gaming industry as a whole.

Tried checking the site today and the loading speed was pretty bad. Is it some kind of server issue op? Also, it would be better if you guys provided some sort of bonuses since I cannot find any bonuses on your site currently.

This makes sense now. This is basically like gambling with FIAT in certain sites(Converting from BTC to FIAT and vica versa). Useful information!

Small change, you don't need to convert by yourself. Actually I had suggested to team for keep a convert button from Bitcoin to Betcoin. But team implemented a different processor from beginning. When you will make deposit then your bitcoin automatically will converted to betcoin accordingly. You don't need to touch anything, likely team want to save gamblers time. Same thing for withdrawals as well. During withdrawal you will have to Betcoin amount instead of Bitcoin. So website will calculate automatically how much Bitcoin will you receive when you will click on "Withdraw". Its quite conflict word about "Bitcoin & "Betcoin". Likely team could create a different color for Betcoin like I wrote. So users will not confuse about it.

I think Betcoin just a internal algorithm to pay game. There is no value outside of this site. Don't know if they have plan for future. Since exchange rate always same so nothing to worry for gamblers here. They will always get same bitcoin amount.

Oh, thanks. That's good to hear then, much better then. It's because maybe of the Betcoin?

This says it all, I slowly getting your point. Which before you can play on the site, you need to convert your Bitcoin to Betroom's Betcoin and convert it back to Bitcoin if you want to cash out off to their gambling site.
What a unique gambling site, I'll try this out soon.

Betroom is a TOTALLY new and different concept, unseen in the industry. I will quote a couple paragraphs from our website such that you will understand that we did not copy Betfair or any other concept for this matter:

"Hey guys, My name is Catalin, i m the owner and developer of this web app. There are a few things i want to share with you such that people will understand better why i chose this route.

1. First off, there is only a 3% fee deducted when the players buy their tickets, therefore this is not a rake. It is a commission similar to concert ticket sellers/re-sellers or any other type of ticket selling business. And to be honest, 3% is 3 cents per dollar which is half what ticket resellers charge for selling tickets.

2. Another assumption that i want to tackle is that "Betroom is making money while players are losing money". Risk exists in anything we do, from eating our daily meals, going to work to brushing our teeth, therefore risk exists and it cannot be avoided. But it CAN be mitigated. Traditional casinos have no such interest because their bet is against the player, winning when the player loses, therefore making every possible move to increase their odds against the player. Aside from that, what are the odds a player has to predict an event correctly? The answer is simple, 100% divided by the number of possible outcomes. While a coin toss would yield a 50% chance of winning, a lottery game (6/49) would only give the player 1 chance out of 13,983,816 possible combinations to win the pot. It is fair to say that the casino wins EVERY time. Here BETROOM comes into play. I have designed all games such that players do not have to beat the odds to win the pot, they have to be better than the rest of the participants. Let s take Betroom's Stock Market Mania game. In the real stock market, losing money does not get you anywhere, except to being broke. Here, at Betroom, you can finish the trading session with less than the starting capital and still win the pot; you just have to lose less than the others to WIN the pot. This is the beauty of it, you don t have to be Nostradamus to make money, you just have to be better than your competition. Let s take another example, Betroom's Keno Frenzy game, the one who matches the most numbers takes the pot. The Rocket Crash game is no less better than the other games Betroom prides itself with; the winner is the player that jumps last off the rocket before it crashes. Betroom is NOT demanding its players to be foreseers, it demands them to be just better than their peers to win HUGE pots costing them less than 1$ per ticket. What game exists out there where people that have a losing score are being paid huge jackpots? NONE, i can tell you that!

3. There is a way that people can increase their chances of success - buying more tickets. The more tickets you buy, the more chances you have to win the pot. To keep things fair, each additional ticket purchased costs double than the previous one.

4. Betroom's games are fast paced, giving its players the opportunity to win large amounts of money in a matter of seconds, every 20 seconds on average.

5. Last but NOT least, EVERYONE at Betroom is considered equal to everyone else, everyone is Joe. Betroom IS impartial, Betroom does NOT favour anyone, Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games and, most importantly, Betroom WANTS its players to win so that they become rich, independent, loyal and start trusting the concept, the work and dedication behind it. Betroom IS player-centric, finding itself at the opposing end of traditional casinos which are casino-centric.

Guys, i am really really really EXCITED to put this forth and i hope you can all see the BEAUTY of it the same as i did when i created it!

Yours truly, Joe.
"

You can change the design of site, it is not smooth for the average gambler. Looks like the developers of the betroom get motivation from the Betfair which is the best gambling exchange for p2p trades. Especially for sports betting, some sites have liquidity providers and they only take a small commission form the winning side. Just a small suggestion, you can add no zero roulette and apply the commission form the winners.

If you read my comment correctly you would have seen that "Joe" is the denomination that everyone gets in when joining Betroom, everyone is equal in Betroom's vision. Betroom is impartial (does not care which player wins), it s fair (all players have equal chances of winning the pot) and all games are designed in the same exact way (all players buy tickets, tickets' price minus the small 3% service charge goes to fill the pot, winner takes all). Betroom stands at the opposing pole of traditional casinos, Betroom WANTS people to win because it s client-centric, NOT casino-centric like all other casinos that have 99.99% odds of winning against its players. Betroom ONLY makes money by charging the 3% service fee, THAT S IT!

In order to understand the price structure of our tickets, you need to understand what a ticket does for a player. A ticket gives a player 1 chance to win the pot. If each player buys 1 ticket, the chance of each player winning the pot is 100% divided by the number of players. If a player wants to double, triple, quadruple etc. its changes of winning, that player needs to buy more tickets. It would not be fair if 1 player invested a large enough amount of money such that he can take other people's money every time. According to our tests, it would take roughly 100 tickets for someone to have an ABSOLUTE edge in anyone game against the others. But we made the ticket price so high that the world GDP would not be able to buy 100 tickets in one shot. Betroom wants EVERYONE to win, Betroom does NOT favour certain individuals, Betroom does NOT have any odds in the games, NONE of Betroom's employees is allowed to play the games, all-in-all Betroom is IMPARTIAL. If there is no winner in one game, the pot WILL roll over to the next game, such that Betroom will NEVER hold on to the pot and Betroom will NEVER charge a rolled-over pot a second time. Betroom charges 3% service fee when tickets are being bought. We made this structure to make sure we NEVER charge the pot and we NEVER charge tickets a second time. This is what we call a "provably fair" system, where there is CLEAR and CONCISE actions taken for the sake of TRANSPARENCY. Betroom aims to be so large to make a millionaire every 20 seconds. Betroom stands for FAIRNESS, EQUALITY and IMPARTIALITY. Betroom is ALWAYS on player's side and at the same time at the OPPOSING END of the traditional casino's side.

If you invest more money into buying tickets, you increase your chances of winning and also increase the pot size. Again, Betroom's ticket price structure is made that way NOT for Betroom to make more money, but to PREVENT people with a large enough capital to put a monopoly on its games so that EVERYONE has a chance of winning the pot. That s what we, at Betroom, stand for.
Also if a player buys a lot of tickets, it increases the pot so that a player buying a single ticket might get 1000 times its investment such that he gets a HUGE return on his investment.

I hope i answered your questions.

Thanks for the answer, this is very helpful information for me.
I will start on one of your gaming sites, to find $ 1 luck in seconds, I am interested in trying this challenge. I hope I am lucky this time.
Of course every risk gambling must be there, this is what makes me excited and having fun.



I will try at the Keno Frenzy game.

To further fuel your idea, respond to other posts on this thread and clarify 100% what we, at Betroom, stand for, i will send you a paragraph from our website's knowledge base:

"Hey guys, My name is Catalin, i m the owner and developer of this web app. There are a few things i want to share with you such that people will understand better why i chose this route.

1. First off, there is only a 3% fee deducted when the players buy their tickets, therefore this is not a rake. It is a commission similar to concert ticket sellers/re-sellers or any other type of ticket selling business. And to be honest, 3% is 3 cents per dollar which is half what ticket resellers charge for selling tickets.

2. Another assumption that i want to tackle is that "Betroom is making money while players are losing money". Risk exists in anything we do, from eating our daily meals, going to work to brushing our teeth, therefore risk exists and it cannot be avoided. But it CAN be mitigated. Traditional casinos have no such interest because their bet is against the player, winning when the player loses, therefore making every possible move to increase their odds against the player. Aside from that, what are the odds a player has to predict an event correctly? The answer is simple, 100% divided by the number of possible outcomes. While a coin toss would yield a 50% chance of winning, a lottery game (6/49) would only give the player 1 chance out of 13,983,816 possible combinations to win the pot. It is fair to say that the casino wins EVERY time. Here BETROOM comes into play. I have designed all games such that players do not have to beat the odds to win the pot, they have to be better than the rest of the participants. Let s take Betroom's Stock Market Mania game. In the real stock market, losing money does not get you anywhere, except to being broke. Here, at Betroom, you can finish the trading session with less than the starting capital and still win the pot; you just have to lose less than the others to WIN the pot. This is the beauty of it, you don t have to be Nostradamus to make money, you just have to be better than your competition. Let s take another example, Betroom's Keno Frenzy game, the one who matches the most numbers takes the pot. The Rocket Crash game is no less better than the other games Betroom prides itself with; the winner is the player that jumps last off the rocket before it crashes. Betroom is NOT demanding its players to be foreseers, it demands them to be just better than their peers to win HUGE pots costing them less than 1$ per ticket. What game exists out there where people that have a losing score are being paid huge jackpots? NONE, i can tell you that!

3. There is a way that people can increase their chances of success - buying more tickets. The more tickets you buy, the more chances you have to win the pot. To keep things fair, each additional ticket purchased costs double than the previous one.

4. Betroom's games are fast paced, giving its players the opportunity to win large amounts of money in a matter of seconds, every 20 seconds on average.

5. Last but NOT least, EVERYONE at Betroom is considered equal to everyone else, everyone is Joe. Betroom IS impartial, Betroom does NOT favour anyone, Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games and, most importantly, Betroom WANTS its players to win so that they become rich, independent, loyal and start trusting the concept, the work and dedication behind it. Betroom IS player-centric, finding itself at the opposing end of traditional casinos which are casino-centric.

Guys, i am really really really EXCITED to put this forth and i hope you can all see the BEAUTY of it the same as i did when i created it!

Yours truly, Joe."

I what I understand from this FAQ is, owner of site means that he is accepting only bitcoin for his site. Since bitcoin isn't controlled by any government or organization so everyone from all countries able to make deposit with bitcoin. He isn't going to accept any other currency like fiat, so it's not limited for any country. And likely there is not jurisdiction restrictions as far as I know. And also on terms and conditions, seems they did not restrict anyone above 18 years. Their KYC policy will applicable if incase they found someone below 18 years old.


However, that was my opinion, it would be better if team answer by themselves.

I have a question about this item on the Frequently Asked Questions(FAQ);
By this means, there will be no restriction on which country the user is located?
Like for example in some gambling sites, they always indicate which country are not alllowed to play on their gambling site and they are extremely strict with it.

"FIRST PEER TO PEER BETTING" - now, I do like the sound of that and it's not just the sexy phrase but more like what it stands for. I think, one too many times players like me worry that despite the 'provably fair' quote playing agains the house edge or a bot is not the same as playing against other humans, and so I think the benefit of peer-to-peer betting is providing players with more confidence in their bettings.

I really do hope this project gets uplifted because it's yet another 'whole' in gambling that needs to be filled.