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legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
They get paid by the exchangers, which gives them at least a short-term interest in keeping the money flowing. Long-term, a quality rating system would benefit the best exchangers and could very well increase their affiliate revenue. But that requires an independent rating system.
It is very hard to get really independent good rating system.
You are always going to have paid fake reviews, or people who intentionally want to harm some service or competition.
Even reviews and ratings on Amazon and other big websites are many times bad, and for bitcoin exchanges this would be even more problematic.
hero member
Activity: 1834
Merit: 879
Rollbit.com ⚔️Crypto Futures
...SCAM!
I don't understand why are people are still using fixedfloat exchange after several cases of hacks and losing a bunch of money  Tongue
Another problem in your feedback is bestchange service with their flawed incorrect feedback system, they probably have many positive feedback for fixedfloat.
Much better alternative is to use eXch exchange, they never ask for any KYC, and they don't freeze coins for any reason.
 
Once in a while I use fixed float because among the bestchange exchanges, they do accept swaps for smaller denominations which is a plus and their feedback system onsite has no negative comments either  Roll Eyes which made me think that all was good, but seeing your comments here made me think twice now, thanks for the heads up  Cool

Will be trying eXch soon, don't know why I thought this was a BTC only platform  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
This was discussed several times in their ANN, but somehow they always diplomatically left the discussion with "The feedback system is not the best, we are working on improvement". Years have passed...
They get paid by the exchangers, which gives them at least a short-term interest in keeping the money flowing. Long-term, a quality rating system would benefit the best exchangers and could very well increase their affiliate revenue. But that requires an independent rating system.
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 3469
Crypto Swap Exchange
It's been like that for years, and it's the reason I left them this feedback 2 years ago:
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Warning: reviews on BestChange.com are biased. BestChange.com allows exchangers to cancel negative Complaints by turning them into neutral Comments without actually resolving the issue. This effectively hides problems and even scamming from users.
On top of that, BestChange removes feedback too. I recommend not to rely on BestChange's rating system to trust any exchanger.
Note that all positive DT-feedback they've received in the past 3.5 years was exclusively for their signature campaign management. That's kinda bad: their reputation earned from paying their signature campaign can be misleading for the users trusting their exchange recommendations.
This was discussed several times in their ANN, but somehow they always diplomatically left the discussion with "The feedback system is not the best, we are working on improvement". Years have passed...
Previously, this was not so much expressed, but with the tightening of AML checks and the more frequent seizure of user funds by exchangers, the matter is becoming more serious. The latest case of seized 47 exchangers is the best example of the lack of a quality review system.

Note that all positive DT-feedback they've received in the past 3.5 years was exclusively for their signature campaign management. That's kinda bad: their reputation earned from paying their signature campaign can be misleading for the users trusting their exchange recommendations.
In fact, it all started because forum users were sceptical when they started a signature campaign, with the then second-best payment rate, without escrow or a reputable manager. Most of the feedback refers to that, and there weren't any problems.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Unfortunately, the rating review on Bestchange turned out to be very imprecise and with some significant flaws.
It's been like that for years, and it's the reason I left them this feedback 2 years ago:
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Warning: reviews on BestChange.com are biased. BestChange.com allows exchangers to cancel negative Complaints by turning them into neutral Comments without actually resolving the issue. This effectively hides problems and even scamming from users.
On top of that, BestChange removes feedback too. I recommend not to rely on BestChange's rating system to trust any exchanger.
Note that all positive DT-feedback they've received in the past 3.5 years was exclusively for their signature campaign management. That's kinda bad: their reputation earned from paying their signature campaign can be misleading for the users trusting their exchange recommendations.
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 3469
Crypto Swap Exchange
I think you should engage more with Bestchange since their exchange is listed there. Bestchange my pressurize them to acted accordingly. I am not sure if you wrote a review there, or you just mailed customer service.

Writing a review is much better as it attracts the attention of Bestchange team to act up on it,
Unfortunately, the rating review on Bestchange turned out to be very imprecise and with some significant flaws. It seems that BC always sides with exchangers, especially when they are issued with a KYC mark. If the exchanger declares that the funds have a high AML risk score, BC will not allow negative feedback. Therefore, other users will not be warned about the potential risk.
copper member
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1794
Top Crypto Casino
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I think you should engage more with Bestchange since their exchange is listed there. Bestchange my pressurize them to acted accordingly. I am not sure if you wrote a review there, or you just mailed customer service.

Writing a review is much better as it attracts the attention of Bestchange team to act up on it,
hero member
Activity: 3080
Merit: 603
...SCAM!
I don't understand why are people are still using fixedfloat exchange after several cases of hacks and losing a bunch of money  Tongue
I don't know about them, once an exchange have this history of being hacked whether it's a real thing or inside job, your money is never safe again with them. Maybe the guy isn't informed that there were hacks and issues that fixedfloat have faced just recently.

So know everything - if you want to change coins - IMMEDIATELY go to Binance - you don't need this exchanger - after all, you will immediately get to this binance with his light hand!
Actually, there are a bunch of them but the convenience is the reason why many chooses to get into these instant exchangers. Aside from exch mentioned by dkbit98, orangefren is also nice to try.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
...SCAM!
I don't understand why are people are still using fixedfloat exchange after several cases of hacks and losing a bunch of money  Tongue
Another problem in your feedback is bestchange service with their flawed incorrect feedback system, they probably have many positive feedback for fixedfloat.
Much better alternative is to use eXch exchange, they never ask for any KYC, and they don't freeze coins for any reason.
 
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
Hi all! Let's start in order - I decided to change coins and went to bestchange, and then to this fixedfloat site. I change 10 coins - everything is fine, the amounts are small. Then I change 0.1 btc - and I am blocked. I write to support - my coins are allegedly stolen.
Moreover, all the exchanges were from one wallet all this time and while the amounts were small, there were no problems.
Okay, I ask what to do. In response, they ask me for a photo, where the coins come from and the address where I bought it. I provided everything. In response to me - THIS is NOT evidence, the photo can be faked and the address of the exchanger in Moscow too)))) I write - let's send the address documents in paper form - zero answer. Let's move on - I'm writing to bestchange.
I show the admins of the bestchange papers and AML the check - they write to me, pass the check. I agree, I have nothing to hide.
Do you know what the exchanger writes? - CONTACT BINANCE ! ABSURDITY! I ask what is the exchanger that binance - and why do you need me if I can change it to binance without you? And I didn't have any business with Binance and no one is waiting for me there.
They have long transferred my coins to another wallet - allegedly for storage!))) And it would be okay if I were so alone - they have the whole page on the bestchange gray color, all in disputes about the fact that they are thieves. And the most amazing thing is that Bestchange took their side and in the same way he has not answered letters for 3 days!
So know everything - if you want to change coins - IMMEDIATELY go to Binance - you don't need this exchanger - after all, you will immediately get to this binance with his light hand!
SCAM!
copper member
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1814
฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
Is this project still working?

I see their API and I'm considering to add to my projects their exchange features.
Yeah, the service is still working. I would however advise you to thoroughly check out their KYC/AML policy to avoid any possible KYC disputes in the future in case you are planning to create orders.
You can also look through some reviews — https://www.bestchange.com/fixedfloat-exchanger.html
jr. member
Activity: 84
Merit: 4
Is this project still working?

I see their API and I'm considering to add to my projects their exchange features.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Be careful for phishing sites! In the past days, I've seen "fixedflaot" and "fiixedfloat" advertising on Google.

Google responded to my report:
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We decided not to take this ad down. We found that the ad doesn’t go against Google’s policies, which prohibit certain content and practices that we believe to be harmful to users and the overall online ecosystem.
As long as they can earn from it, right? Shocked

Shhhh, don't disturb the scammers' business model. You don't want to stop them from running giveaway ads of Elon making a million-dollar generating trade bot.



It is pathetic, Google companies literally won't do anything about scams unless you start fining them $30 billion, $40 billion, $50 billion and so on. The Youtube subreddit in particular is full of 1) users complaining about ads 2) users complaining about *dangerous* ads.
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1258
Heisenberg
Be careful for phishing sites! In the past days, I've seen "fixedflaot" and "fiixedfloat" advertising on Google.

Google responded to my report:
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We decided not to take this ad down. We found that the ad doesn’t go against Google’s policies, which prohibit certain content and practices that we believe to be harmful to users and the overall online ecosystem.
As long as they can earn from it, right? Shocked
It's always about money,  Grin

Maybe the fixedfloat team can try reporting abuse to the domain registrars, those they can sometime disappoint too even when there is a strong case.

btw. Is Fixedfloat safe (by authorities) considering that part of the stolen funds by hacking the Binance wallet ended up on this exchange?
They are probably going to start tightening the KYC and AML checks.
legendary
Activity: 3444
Merit: 3469
Crypto Swap Exchange
Google responded to my report:
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We decided not to take this ad down. We found that the ad doesn’t go against Google’s policies, which prohibit certain content and practices that we believe to be harmful to users and the overall online ecosystem.
As long as they can earn from it, right? Shocked

They haven't theymos on their board, right?     Roll Eyes

btw. Is Fixedfloat safe (by authorities) considering that part of the stolen funds by hacking the Binance wallet ended up on this exchange?

https://twitter.com/zachxbt/status/1694326221511794706
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It appears someone had 27M USDT stolen yesterday.

0x0f2183c8e415e61b4ad7774bf1097019eb2d5b85798a2a229070495131d60321

USDT was quickly swapped for ETH,  then transferred to a number of services (FixedFloat, ChangeNow, etc), and bridged to Bitcoin via THORChain.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Be careful for phishing sites! In the past days, I've seen "fixedflaot" and "fiixedfloat" advertising on Google.

Google responded to my report:
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We decided not to take this ad down. We found that the ad doesn’t go against Google’s policies, which prohibit certain content and practices that we believe to be harmful to users and the overall online ecosystem.
As long as they can earn from it, right? Shocked
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 5
I reported abuse to it's domain registrator and to Cloudflare (FixedFloat uses it). So, it's domain registrator is godaddy.com ([email protected] - for reporting) and Cloudflare's page for reporting abuse is: https://abuse.cloudflare.com/general. But after reporting it I went to exchangers ratings to do the same and saw there is a person who has a dispute with FixedFloat and FixedFloat stole $12000 from this person! So I don't know if it would be correct to report to it's domain registrator right now. Because if the domain registrator takes fixedfloat.com domain from them and closes their website then how would the person who has $12000 stolen contact FixedFloat admin? So I don't know if it's a good idea to report to Godaddy now.

Also reported to antiviruses:

Kaspersky:

[email protected]

ESET:

https://phishing.eset.com/ru-ru/report

DrWeb:

https://support.drweb.ru/new/urlfilter/

Avast:

https://www.avast.ru/report-malicious-file.php
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 5
They must be legal though, otherwise they'd get shut down. I'm not talking about instant exchangers but any kind of centralized exchange, in general. They basically all have such a clause.

I'm talking about small exchangers. Thay have malicious terms and don't get shut down because in Russia it doesn't work like this. In Russia you don't get shut down if you have malicious rules. I mean, normally nobody cares. As for big centralized exchangers, in their cases rules about blocking funds are inappropriate but aren't malicious and aren't against the law. Because they are legal registered companies. So you can sue them, they have duties etc.

You are trying to get instant exchangers offline by pressuring the hosting services that they use?
In my opinion, that doesn't solve the bigger problem, which are the actual centralized exchanges behind these services.

I don't want them to shut down. I want to show them they must respect customers and must remove crazy rules. The community doesnt't want these rules. And this would solve the bigger problem partially. If small exchangers stop to use big centralized ones and start to use noncustodial wallets for their coins, the part of the bigger problem will be solved.

That's where the largest sums of money are 'stolen'; people depositing whole coins and getting them confiscated.

In this case I think "both parties agreed" works Smiley Because as a legal financial organization a big exchanger unfortunately has a right to confiscate funds. In fact in this case funds are confiscated by governments with help of big exchangers. But when someone registers on a big exchanger and then puts his coins there he expects his coins to be reviewed and maybe confiscated. Because in this case it's pretty much like putting your coins in a bank. Big exchanger's users are well informed and agree with this. They accept this because want the government to control their financial operations and want to have guarantees a big exchangers gives them. I know these guarantees are BS and it's much safer to use a noncustodial wallet but many people don't agree with that and consider Binance a safer place to keep coins. And also many people think governement control gives them safety. It's their decision.

Why would it be illegal for small exchangers to confiscate funds (and write it in their terms), but legal for the big ones?

Because of different legal status. I explained this above. The difference is a big exchanger is a legal registered company, it has duties and responsibility and acts according the laws, provides you it's legal data so you can go to court etc. That's why a big exchanger has authority to block funds. And a small exchanger isn't a company, it's some anonymous guy. He doesn't give you any guarantees, doesn't have duties and doesn't have any authority. So he wants to stay anonymous and have zero responsibility but he doesn't want you to be anonymous and can just take your coins.

It's like asking "if police can detain people why some random guy you see on the street can't?". Because there is a difference Smiley

Even if you get all the little ones banned, people will just lose their money to the big ones.

I'm not people's nanny Smiley Also I don't want small ones to get banned. I want them to work like normal people and according to their legal status. They can't demand from clients anything they want. Or both a customer and an exchanger stay anonymous (and in this case nobody asks for documents and nobbody blocks funds) or both give personal and legal info to each other, exchanger gives guarantees, has authority to block funds and does it legally etc. But it can't be like "I stay anonymous and work illegally but you give me your docs and I block your money".

That's why I believe showing them the alternatives is much more important. If they get it, the market will decide, i.e. centralized exchanges with shitty terms (big or small) will have to change course to stay afloat.

Showing them alternatives is very important. But it doesn't mean we just should accept anything small exchangers do. Both things are important. And also as for small exchangers if many people knew how crazy their rules are I think the market would decide to get rid of them very soon. The problem is nobody can't even imagine some random anonymous guy puts in his rules he can confiscate your funds.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 5834
not your keys, not your coins!
unless a court finds the terms malicious.
This is exactly what exchangers do. They have malicious terms.
They must be legal though, otherwise they'd get shut down. I'm not talking about instant exchangers but any kind of centralized exchange, in general. They basically all have such a clause.

Yes we are. If many people complain. Nobody complains to hosters, domain registrators, antiviruses, tax department etc. Normally people complain to ratings like Bestchange. This doesn't work.
We can only help the community by developing and presenting the alternatives that do exist.
I don't agree with you. I think we can help the community both ways. Presenting the alternatives and creating problems to exchangers.
You are trying to get instant exchangers offline by pressuring the hosting services that they use?
In my opinion, that doesn't solve the bigger problem, which are the actual centralized exchanges behind these services. That's where the largest sums of money are 'stolen'; people depositing whole coins and getting them confiscated.

Do you think exchangers are billion-dollar companies? You are so wrong about this. I'm not talking about Binance etc. I'm talking about an average exchanger.
Why would it be illegal for small exchangers to confiscate funds (and write it in their terms), but legal for the big ones? Even if you get all the little ones banned, people will just lose their money to the big ones. That's why I believe showing them the alternatives is much more important. If they get it, the market will decide, i.e. centralized exchanges with shitty terms (big or small) will have to change course to stay afloat.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 5
You're talking to the wrong person. Cheesy I've been doing the only thing we can do against this, for years; which is informing people about these practices and recommending alternatives.
Yes, of course we should use alternatives. But it's not the only thing we can do.

unless a court finds the terms malicious.

This is exactly what exchangers do. They have malicious terms.

If exchanges are running with such terms or similar ones, for a decade, we're not going to stop them doing so by complaining online.

Yes we are. If many people complain. Nobody complains to hosters, domain registrators, antiviruses, tax department etc. Normally people complain to ratings like Bestchange. This doesn't work.

We can only help the community by developing and presenting the alternatives that do exist.

I don't agree with you. I think we can help the community both ways. Presenting the alternatives and creating problems to exchangers.

Good luck! As I've been saying; you're late to the party. How are you envisioning getting billion-dollar companies to change course?

Do you think exchangers are billion-dollar companies? You are so wrong about this. I'm not talking about Binance etc. I'm talking about an average exchanger. They are just physical persons like you and aren't companies. And they don't have billions of dollars, normally they work as a thrird-party and don't have this amount of funds. Also as I said before 2 exchangers alreade changed their rules because of me. And I only talked to their supports to achieve this. So why is that if we can do nothing about their scam rules?
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