Topic: Fixedfloat is scamming me for 8000+ EUR IMPORTANT PSA! - page 3. (Read 1523 times)

They lied. That should tell you everything you need to know:

Getting emails from multiple agencies, and they're giving you information to seize funds from certain addresses? That means instead of managing the exchange you are doing the work of confiscating bad funds! Instead of the OP's complaint, you're just repeating that you're following the instructions of various law enforcement agencies, but I don't think that's an entirely true claim. Now you have stopped engaging in this thread, but it would be better if you explain the reason behind it. Because this raises doubts about the claim you are making.

The Fixedfloat forum representative have taken themselves out of the thread and that is disappointing. It seems they have not posted since 29th January.

Under normal circumstances, if there were serious allegations against them they should have mounted a full defence to protect their reputation but the way they have handled the whole issue they have made it clear they were not interested in giving it the focus it deserved. In the process they left their reputation in tatters.

It does seem (just as the OP stated later) Fixedfloat are going through the KYC process as a form of revenge. As far as I am concerned they will not release the funds to the OP regardless of the explanation given or KYC/AML documents provided.

He's most likely trying to scam him. What they do is they send you a website link which asks to "verify" your wallet, and you have to approve a contract there, that's where the wallet gets drained.

Isn't it better to place a link of his contact info or the link of other forum threads in this topic? I don't understand why it should not be a public.
By the way, his problem is that FixedFloat asks him for many proofs and also don't validate some of them, there is a huge mess in this thread because there are so many big quotes, it's hard and time consuming to read all of them in details.

This is his last update, how is that person going to help him if his AML score is higher than 80+ and FixedFloat doesn't reply to him or his customer? Just wondering, is that guy going to magically do something about that?

If you still not resolve your problem send me PM with your TG i will try to help you. I have a contact of good man which run this business more then 1 year already. He help people to unblock AML risk score 80+ transactions. No need any advance payment. He will take some % only after work fully completed. He have paid thread on famous forum with reviews.

Probably, but I thought this should be mentioned, maybe OrangeFren can help push things into right direction, since FixedFloat previously sponsored some of their meetings and events.
I see OP was not active for few days, so let's wait to hear update when he comes back.

I assume that guarantee only applies when you use their referral link. But even then, it's not worth much:

Interesting that you mentioned this.
As far as I know Orangefran has written guarantee and protection from your funds being stolen by fixedfloat exchange, if you used them,
but they also have clear warning that  fixedfloat may freeze your coins and ask you a bunch of questions:



I don't think this should be considered as a scam, but orangefren should help speed up things and resolve this issue.
As for fixedfloat partners aka other exchanges, they can literally say any address they want as blacklisted without providing any proof  

Not trying to defend OP, but....

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It seems there is a small misunderstanding here due to OP's lack of punctuation mark and English is not his native language, or so I assume. The suicide statement aside, as I think that's him being dramatic, I believe his statement should read like this,


It's explained on the snippet of his complaint on best exchange [re-uploaded below]. He saw that it's completed, and as this is not the first time he use FF, he thought everything is good and didn't bother to do anything and proceed with the work.


https://i.ibb.co/HdZ4swM/x8.png

Anyone who wants to ask me question is free to do so by listing it but at moment guys i am very worried that my customer sent so much of his KYC details and now they are not replying for so long...this is extremely suspicious behavior



8000 EUR for website of that capacity for customers budget is NOTHING to me is LIFE CHANGING AMOUNT i am happy to  answer you all questions regarding what work i did if you list it like
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but as i say currrentl even after completing KYC and i am delivering whole KYC proccess in full to public fowarded by my customer

Step 1:

Hello,

As we said before, we offer KYC only in order to reduce the risk when unfreezing the order. This is fully consistent with the Terms of Service:
7.9. In some cases, when, for objective reasons, the user cannot provide sufficient evidence of the source of the funds received, as well as in the case of the sender's personal acquaintance with the alleged criminal who sent the funds to the User, as an exception, the User may be asked to undergo identity verification.

We also reported that we will be able to provide your data for communication only at the official request of law enforcement agencies for this transaction.

We do not share data with third parties, this is a violation of the Privacy policy. You can also find out how we store and processing data in the Privacy policy:
https://fixedfloat.com/en/privacy-policy

Verification takes place in two stages. First we need to get a scan or photo of your identity document.


Best regards,
FixedFloat team.


Step 2

Hello,

Please send a video recording where the order page is open on the screen in the background, we can see your face, and you with your identity document in your hand pronounce your full name, the order ID and confirm that you have sent the funds for this order.




Best regards,
FixedFloat team.


Both steps were done on 29th fully and they are still staling with release of funds customer send them reminder and i've contacted bestchange and orangefren who are willing to help but still waiting answer from both

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Which exchange do you use that charges you high transaction fees? I just calculated and 0.2 BTC to XMR via fixedfloat results in 51.529 XMR while on Binance that results in 51.652 XMR. XMR withdrawal fee is 0.0001 XMR either that equals 0.0167 USD. You would actually save $30 if you were about to use centralized exchanges. I haven't checked decentralized ones but it will be nice to hear which particular exchange you are talking about that you were going to use but had way too high fees.

Iam not sure what are you asking me here exactly but if its why i used fixedfloat it's simple i use it for long time as i said if someone pays in high fee coin i exchange it for low fee coin and they are fastest exchange generally others stale with confirmation required to exchange efor other tokens i am not sure but someone said that on my transaction i pay like 0.40 cent thats not true on my electrum it gives warning when transaction passes 30% and i am poisitive i calculated it would cost me so much instend i used fixedfloat to sawp it


It would at least take you some weeks to receive second payment, right? Because you were doing 8000+ Euro job, it would at least take one week, minimum. Didn't you really notice that your wallet wasn't filled the next day? Did you really that blindly decided that it would 100% be sent to your wallet? And only noticed it on 2nd transaction? C'mon man.

Exactly i recieved first payment and as you say it says Completed i didn't bother i worked 12h a day just on this website after finishing MVP(Minimal visible product) i've requested second payment keep in mind customer previously saw my work that my friend on discord shared him and i was vouched  full conversation you guys can freely reada once i share all evidences i shared with fixedfloat,and since fixedfloat nver gave me issues before i just trusted the statemant and went with my work and when making final order  when i opened monero wallet(please notice its my first time using it) i saaw 0 balance told my friend who is little more experienced in cryptos he responded that monero sometimes desyncs or something like that coin and that i should pick new remote node and rescan balance in meantime i gave wallet to new address customer paid and after waiting for some time it said completed and i rescaned wallet few times anad money was missing so i contacted fixedflot you have statemant that answers this in first email and in bestchange
unfortunately i blindly trusted fixedfloat

I think the distinction has been made between the fact the OP had his funds unfairly frozen under the most dubious of excuses by Fixedfloat against the fact he seems to have received a generous payment for the website from his client. At worst case scenario, if the OP did not make the website or if there was something else going on, it still did not make it right for Fixedfloat to steal the funds.

Fixedfloat has to take measures now to repair the damage otherwise their reputation will never recover.

Fwiw, 8k for a website he coded from scratch isn't unbelievable depending on the type of website he worked on. I know for a fact that websites can go for as much as a million dollars depending on the complexity of the project. We are missing the point here, I don't think it matters why he got the 8k and what it was for, what matters is that Fixedfloat froze the poor mans funds and isn't returning them back like they should do.

Which exchange do you use that charges you high transaction fees? I just calculated and 0.2 BTC to XMR via fixedfloat results in 51.529 XMR while on Binance that results in 51.652 XMR. XMR withdrawal fee is 0.0001 XMR either that equals 0.0167 USD. You would actually save $30 if you were about to use centralized exchanges. I haven't checked decentralized ones but it will be nice to hear which particular exchange you are talking about that you were going to use but had way too high fees.

It would at least take you some weeks to receive second payment, right? Because you were doing 8000+ Euro job, it would at least take one week, minimum. Didn't you really notice that your wallet wasn't filled the next day? Did you really that blindly decided that it would 100% be sent to your wallet? And only noticed it on 2nd transaction? C'mon man.


Which law enforcement agencies are in touch with you? Also, where is your office? In Seychelles? Is it an African startup? Can I visit you in the office? Since you want to know your customer, your customer has a right to know their service provider.

This is 100% right, it's ridiculous when users don't have to mark box checked and then company enforces their own policy on them.

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There are so many huuuuuuge quotes, it's very hard to read all of them and many will miss the important aspects of the story. To be frank, I got tired and bored reading them. OP please answer to my quotes.

This is exactly what makes your story so hard to believe. Earlier you wrote this:
It doesn't sounds like the regular payment for this is €8k. If "it's nothing", you wouldn't talk about killing yourself over losing payment for a week.

Don't quote long posts.

even after completing whole KYC and providing gruesom things fixedfloat asked my customer guess what they aren't replying now and just ignoring everything.

As predicted, this turns into a cluster of messy quote. Again, learn how to quote. You have sophisticated system [or so it seems] and --I believe-- a powerful tech team, one of them can look into this forum and teach you how quoting works. It's very simple, he won't need more than few seconds.

I am tabling other, simpler, things for now [point 1-4] and focus on point number 5. You're saying the analysis you use now came out with a result that 100% of the fund is dirty? Who provide the initial analysis, again? The one with mere 3.1% [at best]? Such an astronomical difference, don't you agree? You sure the analysis given by your partners are the valid one and not a false positive?

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This, I can help answering for them. They've been asked about this on an older thread where they're --similarly-- being questioned quite thoroughly, though their answer is not satisfactionary and, when pursued further, they went full Avatar Aang.

So you got partially paid up front but didn't check it before you did all the work? I find this hard to believe (and incredibly dumb). Trusting an anonymous website with a large amount of money at once was dumb too. You could have made several smaller exchanges, to reduce the risk of selective scamming freezing your money.

This makes your story about earning €8k in a week even more difficult to believe.

So far for your "reputation". If your customer paid to the Bitcoin address you gave him, he's done his part. You're now showing to be an unreliable business partner by changing the deal you made after you were paid. Your customer can't help that you used someone else's address.

That's another thing: this whole "signals" business is very shady. I've seen spam for it countless times, and I bet it's abused for pump and dump schemes too.
This story smells.

The more I read about this case, the more I think there's more to it.

Which "partners"? Be specific.

It's in his screenshots:
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Following the above transactions, it looks like you've "mixed" OPs funds with other funds and consolidated them into bc1qns9f7yfx3ry9lj6yz7c9er0vwa0ye2eklpzqfw. Aren't you concerned that those funds you deemed criminal are now in your own address, meaning anyone that receives Bitcoin from your exchange now receives some of those criminal funds? It shows once again that "taint" is only made-up BS.

You're omitting the fact that OP initiated the exchange on your website. Of course he has something to do with it.

That's a lie, as pointed out above.

OP gave his customer a Bitcoin address to pay to. They paid.

And there's the problem with "taint" again: what's legal in one place, may be illegal in another. You're not even sharing which jurisdiction applies. Depending on where you are gambling or prostitution can be perfectly legal or a crime. Now who's going to judge who's "honest"?

Say what? It sounds a lot like data mining from an anonymous guy who's hiding in a tax paradise.

@fixedfloat: can you confirm the above 2 statements (mother's birth certificate and law enforcement request) are true? I'm especially curious which law enforcement agency allows you to refund stolen funds in exchange for his mother's birth certificate.

You mean the companies that sell this "service" and turned the notion of "taint" into a business model? The companies who's sole existence depends on people buying into the "Bitcoin isn't fungible" attack?

What do you mean when you say you're "partners" with "analysis services"? I can imagine you buy their "service", but if you're "partners", does that mean you provide them with data too (maybe an overview of all exchanges ever carried out on your platform)?

Great! So let me ask again: have you contacted the "partner" or the victim to tell them the joyful news that you found back their stolen money?

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@fixedfloat: please use the quote button instead of bold font inside a quote, and read the forum rules (edit your post instead of posting 4 times in a row).

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I spend quite a lot of time digging through all posts and data for this case. TL;DR: OP's story sounds shady, and fixedfloat lied about freezing OP's funds.

@Fixedfloat, I didn't want to go too deep into this but I once had a good amount of money stuck with Changelly and I made them give it back, I know what feelings OP must be going through right now so for that reason, READ THIS CAREFULLY!

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HOLD OP'S FUNDS HOSTAGE, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO REFUSE YOUR SERVICES TO THEM AND RETURN THE FUNDS TO THE ORIGINATING ADDRESS!


You have frozen those funds because you want to, not because you are required by law or by a law enforcement agency. You say you are based in Seychelles, let's just assume for a second that you have a company registered there, Seychelles DOES NOT have a crypto operating license nor do they have a legal framework in place regarding cryptocurrencies, all you need is to create a company and without any extra licenses you can operate as a crypto exchange. THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED BY THEIR LAW TO FREEZE ANY FUNDS, whether your partner marks said funds as illicit or not!

It is very clear to me that you are holding OP's funds because YOU WANT TO, not because you are required to do so by any institution. In cases such as yours, where YOU DO NOT verify a users ID, YOU MUST return the funds.