Topic: Fixedfloat is scamming me for 8000+ EUR IMPORTANT PSA! - page 4. (Read 1547 times)

You have not received any request or notice from any law enforcement agency yet you have confiscated the funds because maybe someone 18 months from now will request it? Can you understand how ridiculous that sounds?

You are never going to be asked to pay any fine from  any law enforcement agency because you are not registered in any jurisdiction, you remain anonymous. Why are you conducting KYC on the customer of the OP if the funds are allegedly stolen and you will not return them regardless?

We receive information about thefts and fraud from our partners (other exchanges and cryptocurrency services) and victims who contact us. All evidence is carefully considered.

We receive dozens of requests a day from law enforcement agencies in a huge number of countries. All requests are sent from official email addresses (which, of course, are checked) by law enforcement agencies, contain signatures and seals.

Anyone has the opportunity to apply to law enforcement agencies with a statement on the retention of funds. We respond to all requests from law enforcement agencies and provide a detailed answer about the reasons for the freezing of funds.

In the practice of cryptocurrency services, there are cases when even projects with mandatory KYC were recognized as accomplices to crimes and were subjected to at least fines, and at most sanctions, which in principle means the complete closure of the project. We are not interested in this, so we are ready to protect our own interests, trying to continue to provide the same level of quality services to our customers.

Not just that i am delivering mail in full that my client recieved

Hello,

We need to get concrete direct evidence of receipt of funds. Due to circumstances, we can offer you verification.

Based on the Terms of Service:
7.9. In some cases, when, for objective reasons, the user cannot provide sufficient evidence of the source of the funds received, as well as in the case of the sender's personal acquaintance with the alleged criminal who sent the funds to the User, as an exception, the User may be asked to undergo identity verification.

We do not practice KYC verification, as we value the anonymity of our customers, but since in this case the risk of exchanging or returning these funds is high for our service, we can make an exception. At the official request of law enforcement agencies for this transaction, we will be able to provide your data for communication.

Are you ready to go through identity verification to unlock the order?


Now they are punishing me for posting this everyhwere by staling with an answer guys really FOCUS on this since my client and me have nothing to do with any crimes and we provide evidence and even  agreeing to KYC just to get money released for me becuse i have nothing at amoment and THEY ARE PUNISHING ME FOR LEAKING EVERYTHING TO COMMUNITY now they stale with replys cleints is waiting for 3hours now with me i am begging him to stay awake

They stated in an earlier post they do not operate a KYC policy. If your customer is undergoing KYC with them, they will still never release the funds unless they ask you for your ID too.

What I do not understand is why would you or your customer go through a KYC procedure with an anonymous exchange that you do not even know where it is based, where their head office is located and the name of any person you can serve legal papers on? Why give them private details such as ID documents when they could easily sell them on to criminals (or use them themselves for criminal activity)?

The other question that comes to mind is the obvious one: if they claim the funds originated from criminal activity, they will never release the funds regardless of what KYC is followed. I agree, they are putting you through this to punish you for bringing their shameful conduct to our attention.

After everything they are asking my customer to undergo KYC procedure which he AGREED ON now watch them ask him his mother birth certificate to be sure that he is born and it's not alien just to not release my money guys after sending so much evidences they are doing this just to let you know guys what they are doing watch this case extremely close they are doing revenge for us whistleblowing on their company

After blocking the customer's funds, such statement will not be of any benefit. You have repeatedly said that these are funds of criminal means, but so far you have not said anything clearly about how you have identified this fund and who has alleged that this fund is involved in crime. Keep this in mind you are dealing with bitcoins so don't block someone's funds with different tags, this will harm your business. I think the bitcointalk community should not use your exchange and never support you. Because this happened to the OP today, the next day something like this could happen to others.

Fixedfloat: who are the "partners" you mentioned? Who decides based on what criteria which Bitcoins are good or evil?
Bitcoin is fungible, attacking it's fungibility is attacking the fundamentals of Bitcoin.

LoyceV: read everything here.

In other words what Fixedfloat are stating is that they will keep the funds for themselves under the guise of receiving funds from criminal means. Fixedfloat is not trading as registered company. It operates (as stated in their own terms of service) without answering to any law enforcement agency and has no country/state as preference for litigation and will never allow any customer/client to take it to Court as they remain anonymous.

Yet after all that, they claim they cannot return the funds back to the customer they confiscated it from. Well, this exchange is never going to get any support in this forum.

Which law is providing this data and which law are you in general abiding EU or USA

Why have you not given an answer to me regarding your checkbox thingy update?

why you didnt answer to darkness?

Why is there no record of your company in seychelles available on official goverment website?

Who is company monitoring or governing your work financials?

Why is your company details and representive data not available on your website as required by EU law if judghing by your tos you are reffering to EU laws you are in clear violation of EU data and Privacy as law states FOLLOWING

your identity, such as your trading name
legal physical and e-mail address and telephone number; if different, the legal address of your establishment
your legal status, legal form and, if you are registered in a trade or similar public register, the name of the public register for your activity and your registration number (plus your professional title and Member State in which it was granted, if the activity is based on a regulated profession)
VAT identification number, if your activity charges VAT for the goods or services it provides
details of any supervisory authority, if your activity is subject to a professional authorisation scheme
link from your website to the Online Dispute Resolution platform, a service provided by the European Commission to easily solve issues with consumers
general terms and conditions, terms of sale and other applicable information related to the sales transaction that you must provide to the customer during the ordering process
privacy policy, cookie policy, and other policies applicable to personal data protection


Therefore you added after you saw topic going crazy after your ass yestrday you updated your website as i provided evidence upthere to include checkbox and you dont allow exchange to be made without contenst therefore all previous exchanges are illegal and this is provided by EU GDPR LAW

Posting following

If a website states that by browsing or using the site, users automatically agree to the terms, without providing a clear opportunity to refuse or actively consent, it may not meet the requirements set forth by the GDPR.

You can check 2 posts up there to see evidence of fixedfloat breaking EU laws and since they dont allow USA citizens that means they are primarly focused on EU and ASIA

EDIT: Adding my past  comment evidence


Current state you have to check in box becuse they know it wont pass if you dont agree (becuse they know there was loophole that they need to patch)

https://i.ibb.co/9HbX74B/fixedfloatscam.png
 (I DIDNT CONSEST TO ANYTHING)

When i made exchanges it was like this

https://i.ibb.co/Gsq0qfh/fixedfloatscam2.png

You can check archive.org on 1 january to confirm this

https://web.archive.org/web/20240101102027/https://fixedfloat.com/

We cannot exchange or refund funds obtained through criminal means, as this may be interpreted as complicity in a crime. In order to continue the exchange or return the coins, we must make sure that the funds were received in an honest way

I can see that this conversation will go into a big mess of quote pyramid. So, to prevent that, just ignore all of the text above and begin replying from below the line. And please learn the proper way to quote.

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1. And the details like username [which understandably some will prefer to be a private matter] are important on this investigation... how? I am once again bringing your older statement here for everyone's attention:


seems the exact opposite to me, you're violating the confidentiality of your customer by forcing him to reveal his contact info, and you're not only asking about the source of the fund.

2. Still not explaining about the counterproductive-ness of having OP to ask for his client to provide the info. As mentioned, if we suppose OP did involved in the crime, there's nothing stopping him to work with this client to fabricate that evidence you asked. So...?

3. Thus... innocent? Your words, and I quote, "Since the OP is not the sender of the funds, he has nothing to do with the funds sent to us."

4. Quite contradictive, is it not? "As we have already said, in this case, the OP has nothing to do with the funds sent to our addresses from a legal point of view. When accepting criminal funds to their own addresses, there are other legal consequences for users." So does he have nothing to do with the fund sent to your address or is he involved in it and thus have to face legal consequences?

5. Oh, wow! All of it? But I thought you send him a screenshot of analysis that shows the tainted money from darknet is just 2.2%? With 3.1% at best if we consider everything shady as "tainted"? Tsk... tsk... tsk... now now, which one of your employee published that analysis and which one of you is lying?


For reference, the image being mentioned is as below [re-uploaded to talkimg]

In this situation it appears that you are maintaining a win-win situation for yourself. You have withheld someone's hard earned money by showing your power, if you think there is a problem with this fund then why not refund it to the same address instead of keeping this fund. You keep the funds in your wallet and ask the OP for one document after another, I don't think there is any need for these. I would say those who run this kind of business and harass customers should be avoided, everyone should refrain from using Fixedfloat, they make such a scene with customer's funds which harass customers and keep their funds withheld on various pretexts.

The law enforcement agencies excuse is now being used the most, would you please confirm which law enforcement agencies are actually complaining to you that this fund is involved in any criminal means.

Important Reply


FIXED FLOAT CHANGING TOS AND IMPLENTING CHECKBOX THAT YOU AGREE THAT WAS NOT CASE IN MY EXCHANGE PERIOD

They thinked i won't notice but i am scavanging every interaction and law i can possibly do this community pointed obvious lies and they are doing everything in their power to fix it and make us all look like idiots but in this very community whole thing was started and you cant play with THIS COMMUNITY its VATICAN of cryptocurrencys each of this people are veterans in here and know their shit

Current state you have to check in box becuse they know it wont pass if you dont agree (becuse they know there was loophole that they need to patch)

https://i.ibb.co/9HbX74B/fixedfloatscam.png
 (I DIDNT CONSEST TO ANYTHING)

When i made exchanges it was like this

https://i.ibb.co/Gsq0qfh/fixedfloatscam2.png

You can check archive.org on 1 january to confirm this

https://web.archive.org/web/20240101102027/https://fixedfloat.com/

by this logic i can create website where all of your money and propertys belong to me by just visiting my website before 2 days this was not on their website and they noticed big mistake! so they quickly rushed to make us look like IDIOTS

Regarding my "ALL DIRTY ALL CONNECTED FUNDS" yes they can now make it dirty as they are one inputing data BUT ITS NOT CASE look first screenshot where i made its only 2.2% AND NOW LOOK 3RD PARTY checking
https://www.scribd.com/document/701965861/txid2

https://www.scribd.com/document/701965218/txid1


WE ARE ALL IN HERE KILLING THEM WITH ARGUMENTS AS COMMUNITY TRHATS WHY THEY DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO POINT ME OUT AS CRIMINAL BECUSE BY THEIR MINDS ITS GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT AND THEY ARE ADMITING IT IN CURRENT WORLD THIS SHIT IS ONLY VISIBLE IN NORTH KOREA EVEN GESTAPO AND STASI TOGETHER DIDNT DO THIS

This got to be broadcasted a ll over reddit and newspaper to see how they are using us and its not true IF LE OR ANY OTHER PARTY DOES NOT CLAIM CRYPTO WITHIN SOME TIME-FRAME THEY KEEP MONEY! BY THE LAW!


My customers reply on what they asked

https://i.ibb.co/y0v0r1P/Screenshot-66.png

Do not fall onto their lies they dont provide any evidence and they know they are wrong thats why they are

Have a look at the terms of service, it goes to the extremely impracticable extent to state in Section 19 Disputes Resolution (19.1): All disputes and disagreements that might arise from these Terms shall be resolved by means of negotiations.

There is zero recourse available for any customer/client to seek a legal dispute. They have not stated which country they will allow jurisdiction in the event there is litigation and for those very same reasons they cannot confiscate $8000 from the OP under dubious and deliberately worded terms and conditions of using their platform.

No government agency is going after them or will go after them if they return the funds to the OP but they are portraying themselves as a law abiding entity yet they themselves are not even registered as a company/LTD/LLC in any jurisdiction therefore they are claiming they are in the Seychelles is an attempt at a smokescreen.

Why don't you return the funds to the originating address as required by law?

OK, so based on this information I come to two conclusions:

1. Absolutely nobody should be using FixedFloat. The BTC taint analysis should be conducted before they send funds to the "main address." This way, the funds can simply be refunded to the sender if they are found to be unacceptable according to their standards. What FixedFloat is doing is a bad business practice.

2. OP's employers are still on the hook for paying him the owed amount.

There has to be a reason why that information is missing from their website. Their forum representative saying it here means nothing. If they are based in Seychelles where is the ultimate jurisdiction if a customer wants to take them to court? They should explain why they have a useless ToS that serves no purpose except to provide a wall of text to display legitimacy.

Judging by the manner in which the Fixedfloat team have made a mess of this situation and completely ruined destroyed their reputation in the process, they will live to regret their actions at least as far as this forum is concerned.

I have never heard of any exchange going to these absolutely unnecessary lengths just to keep/steal from a customer under the guise of alleged source of funds. No matter what they do from this point forth to try to rectify the situation, it is too late for them to salvage their reputation.

Okay, are OP's funds seized by a law enforcement agency?
Which law enforcement agency seizes funds frozen by you?
Where do you operate from?
Have you contacted a law enforcement agency regarding OP's funds? If yes, which one. If not, why haven't you?
What sort of information does OP have to send for you to be convinced to send them their money?

Update: before fwe minutes my customer has updated me he provided all evidence regarding his company/group whatever and after he sended every evidence he could guess what my previous post made it true e they  are now ASKING HIS CUSTOMERS DATA TO BE DELIVERED TO THEM WHO ARE NOT EVEN CONNECTED TO THE CASE WHAT THE FUCK DO THEY HAVE TO DO WITH ME i am not sure am i dreaming or not on top of that customer has forced me for all evidence he had to be forced to send to build him almost 3k worth automated BOT that i am forced to build everyday they kill me more and more and more and more just update to everyone what absurd thing this is this got to go on live television man