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November 12, 2018, 05:52:56 PM
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Already showed you quite clear videos of ships disappearing, BOTTOM FIRST. You don't seem to have good memory. Boats disappear into the distance, the problem is, why are they clearly disappearing bottom first? Even after all the possible ''effects'' or ''illusions''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ObTd7DLMw

You can clearly see there is no effect in this video whatsoever It's literally a boat that has it's bottom half hidden by the curvature.

Convergence, perspective and multiple atmospheric effects on a plane explain how ships disappear at the horizon; the water is flat and level.

I'll give an example of perspective and that's just one of at least three possible effects that cause "disappearing, BOTTOM FIRST":

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Has the man sunk into the field like your logic demands? No, it's a fucking playing field! The field is flat, the sea is flat, world is flat, we are on a plane and there are snakes on the plane!

Finally I think that's a fucking shipwreck in your video, that's fucking rust all over the side and it might be scuttled in shallow water.

You always say: WATER FINDS ITS LEVEL. Meaning that the water is perfectly flat (or close to it) Your example is probably just a bump on the ground.

DOES WATER FIND ITS LEVEL OR NOT NOTBATMAN??? WERE YOU LYING THE WHOLE TIME? That camera is also literally on the ground which amplifies it. In my video you can clearly see the how the bottom of the ship is gone though.
legendary
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November 12, 2018, 05:48:40 PM
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Already showed you quite clear videos of ships disappearing, BOTTOM FIRST. You don't seem to have good memory. Boats disappear into the distance, the problem is, why are they clearly disappearing bottom first? Even after all the possible ''effects'' or ''illusions''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ObTd7DLMw

You can clearly see there is no effect in this video whatsoever It's literally a boat that has it's bottom half hidden by the curvature.

Convergence, perspective and multiple atmospheric effects on a plane explain how ships disappear at the horizon; the water is flat and level.

I'll give an example of perspective and that's just one of at least three possible effects that cause "disappearing, BOTTOM FIRST":

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Has the man sunk into the field like your logic demands? No, it's a fucking playing field! The field is flat, the sea is flat, world is flat, we are on a plane and there are snakes on the plane!

Finally I think that's a fucking shipwreck in your video, that's fucking rust all over the side and it might be scuttled in shallow water.

Vod
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November 12, 2018, 04:28:03 PM
You are told that boats sailing away disappear by going up, over and behind curved water three miles away yet when binoculars are used, you can see the boat that just sailed down behind the water.

No you can't.   Cheesy

You are just repeating lies other people have told you.

Go to the beach, actually watch a ship disappear, and see if you can make it hover above the curvature of the earth.

TRY SOMETHING YOURSELF FOR A CHANGE, MR. LAZY.

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November 12, 2018, 04:00:23 PM
Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...

Why can some boats that are really far away be seen with binoculars but not with the naked eye?

You are told that boats sailing away disappear by going up, over and behind curved water three miles away yet when binoculars are used, you can see the boat that just sailed down behind the water. Are you a gullible idiot who believes bullshit or, are you a worthless sack of crap asking misleading questions to perpetrate a lie and a conspiracy?

Objects converge to a point with distance, this is the vanishing point i.e. boat gone bye-bye. The horizontal line that rises or lowers to eye level (the horizon) is an optical effect that occurs on a plane due to convergence. Perspective is the height or depth the viewer has on or below (submarine) the plane and it affects the distance to the horizon. There's atmosphere and its effects in addition to convergence and perspective, a narrow band mirage forms on top of the horizon line obscuring and mirroring objects, refraction changes the position of objects, compression squishes objects, magnification enlarges & crops objects, diffusion blurs objects.

The sextant measures angles on plane using the horizon and, distances can be calculated with trigonometry; one minute of arc is one mile. This is proof there is no curve that boats sail over, if the ocean curved the sextant would be useless for navigation and, we would all be forced to watch endless re-runs of Gilligan's Island after the Skipper plots his course. Neither the horizon or the water curves, ever!



Already showed you quite clear videos of ships disappearing, BOTTOM FIRST. You don't seem to have good memory. Boats disappear into the distance, the problem is, why are they clearly disappearing bottom first? Even after all the possible ''effects'' or ''illusions''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ObTd7DLMw

You can clearly see there is no effect in this video whatsoever It's literally a boat that has it's bottom half hidden by the curvature.
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November 12, 2018, 03:18:15 PM
^^^ No, I'm saying it's something that will happen when the sextant, a tool used for measuring angles on a plane is used for plotting a course on a spherical surface.



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November 12, 2018, 12:41:47 PM
Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...

Why can some boats that are really far away be seen with binoculars but not with the naked eye?
Some of them because there are things in the way, like trees, hills, mountains, other boats, the ocean, etc.



You are told that boats sailing away disappear by going up, over and behind curved water three miles away yet when binoculars are used, you can see the boat that just sailed down behind the water. Are you a gullible idiot who believes bullshit or, are you a worthless sack of crap asking misleading questions to perpetrate a lie and a conspiracy?
If you wait a little longer and look with the binoculars, you will find that the boats disappear past the point where they can can be seen even with a telescope. It's because they have passed the aberration point of the air above the water.

People are told by you, and they don't, generally, believe.



Objects converge to a point with distance, this is the vanishing point i.e. boat gone bye-bye. The horizontal line that rises or lowers to eye level (the horizon) is an optical effect that occurs on a plane due to convergence. Perspective is the height or depth the viewer has on or below (submarine) the plane and it affects the distance to the horizon. There's atmosphere and its effects in addition to convergence and perspective, a narrow band mirage forms on top of the horizon line obscuring and mirroring objects, refraction changes the position of objects, compression squishes objects, magnification enlarges & crops objects, diffusion blurs objects.
All of these things are limited, except the actual distance. Distance remains constant. Beyond a certain point, aberration and perspective don't play in, because of distance.

Get the biggest telescope in the world and point it at China. It isn't the aberration or smog that makes it so you can't see China. It's the ground in the way.



The sextant measures angles on plane using the horizon and, distances can be calculated with trigonometry; one minute of arc is one mile. This is proof there is no curve that boats sail over, if the ocean curved the sextant would be useless for navigation and, we would all be forced to watch endless re-runs of Gilligan's Island after the Skipper plots his course. Neither the horizon or the water curves, ever!
That's part of the reason why they have modern telescopes. The sextant isn't capable of handling great distances properly. Sure, it works fine to triangulate nearby locations. But for telling distances and sizes of faraway places, it just isn't accurate enough.





You still believe that Gilligan's Island was something that really happened, don't you?

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November 12, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...

Why can some boats that are really far away be seen with binoculars but not with the naked eye?

You are told that boats sailing away disappear by going up, over and behind curved water three miles away yet when binoculars are used, you can see the boat that just sailed down behind the water. Are you a gullible idiot who believes bullshit or, are you a worthless sack of crap asking misleading questions to perpetrate a lie and a conspiracy?

Objects converge to a point with distance, this is the vanishing point i.e. boat gone bye-bye. The horizontal line that rises or lowers to eye level (the horizon) is an optical effect that occurs on a plane due to convergence. Perspective is the height or depth the viewer has on or below (submarine) the plane and it affects the distance to the horizon. There's atmosphere and its effects in addition to convergence and perspective, a narrow band mirage forms on top of the horizon line obscuring and mirroring objects, refraction changes the position of objects, compression squishes objects, magnification enlarges & crops objects, diffusion blurs objects.

The sextant measures angles on plane using the horizon and, distances can be calculated with trigonometry; one minute of arc is one mile. This is proof there is no curve that boats sail over, if the ocean curved the sextant would be useless for navigation and, we would all be forced to watch endless re-runs of Gilligan's Island after the Skipper plots his course. Neither the horizon or the water curves, ever!

legendary
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November 12, 2018, 09:24:25 AM
Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...

Who is "us"?

People who are allowed to go beyond the walls of your mental institution.  

You know, the sane ones.  Or as you put it, brainwashed by the filthy Jews.
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November 12, 2018, 08:31:26 AM
Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...

Who is "us"?
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November 12, 2018, 04:46:58 AM
Go to the sea and observe boats that are far away and getting closer. You will probably need binoculars. ... let us know what you came up with...
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November 11, 2018, 08:17:21 PM
If you think rocket launches are fake, show it. It should be easy if you think they just land after a while, show the landing. Easy peasy.
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November 11, 2018, 06:41:07 PM

Bob Ballblaw after all this time still didn't learn anything... Roll Eyes




Meanwhile, I found footage of vod...




and the rest of the crowd...





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November 11, 2018, 03:52:57 PM
Don't kill yourself by sticking with all your faulty FE science as it dies.

Cool

Kind of an odd comment - are you planning on killing yourself as all your creationist science dies?

notbatman keeps on telling people to go kill themselves. So I thought I would essentially suggest to him to be careful to not commit suicide in his zeal.

I have the same wishes for you... that you would come out of your religion, into Bible religion, thereby keeping from killing yourself. At least notbatman might be a Christian, thereby saving himself amidst all his directives for others to kill themselves.

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November 11, 2018, 03:49:07 PM
Congrats on page 666.

The argument isn't about the distance to the Sun, that's calculated using trigonometry and another known distance such as that to a lighthouse. This is about the Sun's "angular size" relative to the horizon vanishing point (a visible object). It's directly measured at 32' with two readings, first you measure the angle between the bottom of the Sun and the horizon, then then the top and the difference is the angular size. One arc minute equals one nautical mile; the very definition of mile is one minute.

That's not how geometry works. Or is geometry also a giant conspiracy?

Of course geometry is a big FE conspiracy. It works so well that all these FE people are getting a free ride in their respective funny farms.

 Cheesy
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November 11, 2018, 03:47:25 PM
@Vod, how does it feel not being able to prove your claims and having to cry to authority and use intellectually dishonest argument tactics for every argument you make?

No idea.   You claim things.

I post what has been scientifically proven for a thousand years.

 Cool

Nobody expects the inquisition, that's the beauty of it.

So until you get your inquisition against thousand year old facts ( Roll Eyes), admit you are not smarter than everyone who walks around you.  Smiley

Notaman - all you do is post comic book  frames and demand everyone believe in them.

All we ask is that you try simple experiments to prove what you are saying - and you can't.

 Cool

Giordano Bruno wasn't burnt at the steak in 1600 because he went around telling the truth, he made provably false claims that the Earth was a globe and paid the price for his role in this massive conspiracy.

My proof the Earth is flat is empirical and it stands; the sextant measures angles on a plane and the Sun is 32 miles in diameter.

LOL! He wasn't burned at the steak because of telling the truth. He was burned at the steak because people didn't want the steak to get burnt. They were hungry for steak.

 Cheesy
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November 11, 2018, 12:24:43 PM
Congrats on page 666.

The argument isn't about the distance to the Sun, that's calculated using trigonometry and another known distance such as that to a lighthouse. This is about the Sun's "angular size" relative to the horizon vanishing point (a visible object). It's directly measured at 32' with two readings, first you measure the angle between the bottom of the Sun and the horizon, then then the top and the difference is the angular size. One arc minute equals one nautical mile; the very definition of mile is one minute.

That's not how geometry works. Or is geometry also a giant conspiracy?
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November 11, 2018, 12:01:04 PM
Flat earth debunked.

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November 11, 2018, 11:52:10 AM
Don't kill yourself by sticking with all your faulty FE science as it dies.

Cool

Kind of an odd comment - are you planning on killing yourself as all your creationist science dies?

The irony of the batty flat earther and a creationist in a pissing contest is amusing to say the least....
legendary
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November 11, 2018, 10:54:11 AM
@Vod, how does it feel not being able to prove your claims and having to cry to authority and use intellectually dishonest argument tactics for every argument you make?

No idea.   You claim things.

I post what has been scientifically proven for a thousand years.

 Cool

Nobody expects the inquisition, that's the beauty of it.

So until you get your inquisition against thousand year old facts ( Roll Eyes), admit you are not smarter than everyone who walks around you.  Smiley

Notaman - all you do is post comic book  frames and demand everyone believe in them.

All we ask is that you try simple experiments to prove what you are saying - and you can't.

 Cool

Giordano Bruno wasn't burnt at the steak in 1600 because he went around telling the truth, he made provably false claims that the Earth was a globe and paid the price for his role in this massive conspiracy.

My proof the Earth is flat is empirical and it stands; the sextant measures angles on a plane and the Sun is 32 miles in diameter.
Vod
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November 11, 2018, 10:48:01 AM
@Vod, how does it feel not being able to prove your claims and having to cry to authority and use intellectually dishonest argument tactics for every argument you make?

No idea.   You claim things.

I post what has been scientifically proven for a thousand years.

 Cool

Nobody expects the inquisition, that's the beauty of it.

So until you get your inquisition against thousand year old facts ( Roll Eyes), admit you are not smarter than everyone who walks around you.  Smiley

Notaman - all you do is post comic book  frames and demand everyone believe in them.

All we ask is that you try simple experiments to prove what you are saying - and you can't.

 Cool
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