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Amen!
^^^ I find your profane and vain babblings, disturbing.
There are multiple passages that state a motionless earth [and 67 passages that says the sun moves], you've cherry-picked and misinterpreted a single passage that says:
"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing." -- Job 26:7, KJV
Seems to me like the bible indicates there's a space under the north; SHEOL also known as HELL.
As for the dome/firmament it's a solid barrier:
"With Him, have you spread out the skies, Strong as a cast metal mirror?" -- Job 37:18, KJV
Finally there's science and pseudo-science in the bible:
"Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans." -- Daniel 1:4, KJV
"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:" -- 1 Timothy 6:20, KJV
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I've discussed Job 26:7 before, and I originally thought (like you and some translations indicate) that it was referring to the firmament and its was saying a dome was hanging on nothing.
No I was mistaken, after reading it (KJV) a few times over it's referring to the earth not the sky. The earth in the north is over a space, it's SHEOL.
There are multiple passages that state a motionless earth [and 67 passages that says the sun moves], you've cherry-picked and misinterpreted a single passage that says:
"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing." -- Job 26:7, KJV
Seems to me like the bible indicates there's a space under the north; SHEOL also known as HELL.
As for the dome/firmament it's a solid barrier:
"With Him, have you spread out the skies, Strong as a cast metal mirror?" -- Job 37:18, KJV
Finally there's science and pseudo-science in the bible:
"Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans." -- Daniel 1:4, KJV
"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:" -- 1 Timothy 6:20, KJV
edit:
I've discussed Job 26:7 before, and I originally thought (like you and some translations indicate) that it was referring to the firmament and its was saying a dome was hanging on nothing.
No I was mistaken, after reading it (KJV) a few times over it's referring to the earth not the sky. The earth in the north is over a space, it's SHEOL.
Just like all you brainwashed pious nutters. You never will never change.
It's why I don't bother debating you. Waste of time.
Mocking your superstitious bible delusions at least gives me a chuckle though.
Carry on dude ... your nutcase reputation on these boards is spotless.
It's why I don't bother debating you. Waste of time.
Mocking your superstitious bible delusions at least gives me a chuckle though.
Carry on dude ... your nutcase reputation on these boards is spotless.
You have been brainwashed into not accepting Bible truth. But there are loads of people like you these days.
notbatman
You have no right to speak of biblical truth, the bible states directly and in no uncertain terms that the earth does not move.
A few examples:
1 Chronicles 16:30,
Psalms 93:1,
Psalms 96:10.
This biblical truth is verifiable using the scientific method; a mechanical gyroscope proven to respond to a 15 deg/hr rotation shows the earth is motionless.
BADecker denies both the bible and the scientific method in favour of propaganda.
You have no right to speak of Biblical truth, because you do not believe in Jesus/Messiah salvation... the entire reason for the existence of the whole Bible.
The Bible states directly and in no uncertain terms that the earth hangs on empty space... Job 26:7:
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/job/26-7.htm
He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing.
In Genesis chapter 1, God made an expanse between the waters on the second day. He called the expanse "sky." God's focus was on the water below the expanse. He doesn't talk about the water above the expanse during the time of the second day.
Then on the fourth day God made the lights in the sky. So, what is included in the sky? Things in it and things above it. The sky is so vast that it has things in part of it and things above part of it. The part of the sky that is the atmosphere has the lights above it. But the part of the sky that is above the atmosphere has the lights in it.
The Bible writings are for people with almost no knowledge of the things that many others have found out, and that we have confirmed within the last 300 years. The earth is a globe that hangs over nothing - empty space.
So, how do we reconcile the things that seem to be differences in Scripture? We need to understand the times of the writers who wrote whatever they wrote. Then we need to take everything in context, first of the paragraph wherein they are written, then of the chapter, then of the book, and finally of the whole Bible. No verse of the Bible stands alone. The whole Bible stands together. To understand any one part, the rest of it has to be understood, as well.
The Bible wasn't written to clarify science in the minds of people. Rather, it was written so that all people recognize God, and hopefully come to Jesus-salvation and are saved. That's why the Bible can never be used to suggest flat earth or globe earth in a scientific way. It simply isn't written in science terms for scientific use. Comparing every part of the Bible with every other part of it shows this.
Hallelujah!
Just like all you brainwashed pious nutters. You never will never change.
It's why I don't bother debating you. Waste of time.
Mocking your superstitious bible delusions at least gives me a chuckle though.
Carry on dude ... your nutcase reputation on these boards is spotless.
It's why I don't bother debating you. Waste of time.
Mocking your superstitious bible delusions at least gives me a chuckle though.
Carry on dude ... your nutcase reputation on these boards is spotless.
You have been brainwashed into not accepting Bible truth. But there are loads of people like you these days.
notbatman
You have no right to speak of biblical truth, the bible states directly and in no uncertain terms that the earth does not move.
A few examples:
1 Chronicles 16:30,
Psalms 93:1,
Psalms 96:10.
This biblical truth is verifiable using the scientific method; a mechanical gyroscope proven to respond to a 15 deg/hr rotation shows the earth is motionless.
BADecker denies both the bible and the scientific method in favour of propaganda.
Just like all you brainwashed pious nutters. You never will never change.
It's why I don't bother debating you. Waste of time.
Mocking your superstitious bible delusions at least gives me a chuckle though.
Carry on dude ... your nutcase reputation on these boards is spotless.
It's why I don't bother debating you. Waste of time.
Mocking your superstitious bible delusions at least gives me a chuckle though.
Carry on dude ... your nutcase reputation on these boards is spotless.
You have been brainwashed into not accepting Bible truth. But there are loads of people like you these days.
notbatman has been brainwashed into believing that simple bible statements made for simple people, really indicate exactly what the universe is like.
You and notbatman are very similar.
Just like all you brainwashed pious nutters. You never will never change.
It's why I don't bother debating you. Waste of time.
Mocking your superstitious bible delusions at least gives me a chuckle though.
Carry on dude ... your nutcase reputation on these boards is spotless.
It's why I don't bother debating you. Waste of time.
Mocking your superstitious bible delusions at least gives me a chuckle though.
Carry on dude ... your nutcase reputation on these boards is spotless.
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blah blah blah... star trek stuff... blah blah
....You better step back and think this one over well. Because it means your life if you get it wrong.
blah blah blah... star trek stuff... blah blah
....You better step back and think this one over well. Because it means your life if you get it wrong.
zzzzzzz ...
Wake up and smell the coffee. You're gonna be left out of the most important thing that could ever exist in your whole life... life itself.
Matthew 25:1-13
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/25.htm
1“At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
6“At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’
7“Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’
9“ ‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’
10“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
11“Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’
12“But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’
13“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
6“At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’
7“Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’
9“ ‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’
10“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
11“Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’
12“But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’
13“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
What day or hour? The day or hour of your death, and subsequent judgment.
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blah blah blah... star trek stuff... blah blah
....You better step back and think this one over well. Because it means your life if you get it wrong.
blah blah blah... star trek stuff... blah blah
....You better step back and think this one over well. Because it means your life if you get it wrong.
zzzzzzz ...
Remember the beginning of the Star Trek movie, Star Trek: Into Darkness? Remember how Kirk and Bones are running through a jungle, running from a primitive race? When the Enterprise lifted out of the ocean, the primitive race saw it. The Enterprise was barely on its way into space, but the primitives were already drawing a picture of the Enterprise in the dirt with a stick.
Did the drawing fly? Did it have any of the powers of the real Enterprise? No. It was just a drawing. ...
Did the drawing fly? Did it have any of the powers of the real Enterprise? No. It was just a drawing. ...
That's an allegory saying how god myths are misinterpretations of unexplained phenomena.
Sorry for going off-topic.
@notbatman,
Stop shitting here please, Buy a telecope, get some vacation to the beach,
if the earth is flat, you'll be able to see the other continent and evrything there
Stop shitting here please, Buy a telecope, get some vacation to the beach,
if the earth is flat, you'll be able to see the other continent and evrything there
You're a pretty shitty child if you think you can see extreme distances through the atmosphere, you can barely even see mountain ranges in the distance through the blue haze. I haven't even touched on refraction and the angular resolution limit of the zoom lens and I've already dubunked your shit-for-brains claim.
It's you that needs to stop dropping deuces here, get a Nikon P900 and go to the beach! Simply watching a boat disappear past the horizon with the naked eye then pulling it back into full view with a P900 debunks the globe.
Look. The answer to this is simple.
Fly a passenger-carrying, hot air balloon to a height of a couple hundred feet. Fly it as far away as you can so that you can still barely see it through the natural, atmosphere haze... if it hasn't dropped out of sight over the horizon, that is. The people in the balloon see you just like you see them.
You have radio contact. The people in the balloon use a transit to measure the angle between you and a distant, visible object that is on the exact opposite side of the balloon as you are, and exactly as far away as you are from the balloon.
If the transit angle is only the size that an angle would be on flat land regarding the height of the balloon, then the earth is flat or flat-ish. If it is greater, the curvature of the earth can be determined from what the angle is, minus the balloon height angle. This whole project can be done much easier from the top of a small mountain rather than a balloon.
If anyone wants to prove flat earth or globe earth, let him do this project, or find where people have done it. Actually, this or similar has been done long ago - https://flatearthinsanity.blogspot.com/2016/09/how-al-biruni-calculated-circumference.html.
Find additional similar doings.
Jeezus dude,
If you spent half the time investigating your sky fairy nonsense as you do to replying to batty's flat earth drivel in here,
you'd have figured out years ago that your imaginary friend is just as imaginary as a flat earth.
Then again, after seeing all the nonsense you post in other threads...maybe not...
I lost 80.1% of my brain cells reading this topic. It was a fun afternoon. Thanks guys 
Well, only another 19.9% to go, and you can be a flat earther, just like batty....
If you sat down and thought about the stuff I tell you about what you call a sky fairy, youd see the thing that scientists are too proud to suggest.
Remember the beginning of the Star Trek movie, Star Trek: Into Darkness? Remember how Kirk and Bones are running through a jungle, running from a primitive race? When the Enterprise lifted out of the ocean, the primitive race saw it. The Enterprise was barely on its way into space, but the primitives were already drawing a picture of the Enterprise in the dirt with a stick.
Did the drawing fly? Did it have any of the powers of the real Enterprise? No. It was just a drawing.
Consider the complexity of the earth and life around us. Consider the ways we use it to make our complex things. Why is it that you can't even imagine that there is a God far above us, like the real enterprise was far above the primitive drawing. Why do you say that this doesn't make sense when the possibility of it is shown in comparing us with microbes?
You better step back and think this one over well. Because it means your life if you get it wrong.
@notbatman,
Stop shitting here please, Buy a telecope, get some vacation to the beach,
if the earth is flat, you'll be able to see the other continent and evrything there
Stop shitting here please, Buy a telecope, get some vacation to the beach,
if the earth is flat, you'll be able to see the other continent and evrything there
You're a pretty shitty child if you think you can see extreme distances through the atmosphere, you can barely even see mountain ranges in the distance through the blue haze. I haven't even touched on refraction and the angular resolution limit of the zoom lens and I've already dubunked your shit-for-brains claim.
It's you that needs to stop dropping deuces here, get a Nikon P900 and go to the beach! Simply watching a boat disappear past the horizon with the naked eye then pulling it back into full view with a P900 debunks the globe.
Look. The answer to this is simple.
Fly a passenger-carrying, hot air balloon to a height of a couple hundred feet. Fly it as far away as you can so that you can still barely see it through the natural, atmosphere haze... if it hasn't dropped out of sight over the horizon, that is. The people in the balloon see you just like you see them.
You have radio contact. The people in the balloon use a transit to measure the angle between you and a distant, visible object that is on the exact opposite side of the balloon as you are, and exactly as far away as you are from the balloon.
If the transit angle is only the size that an angle would be on flat land regarding the height of the balloon, then the earth is flat or flat-ish. If it is greater, the curvature of the earth can be determined from what the angle is, minus the balloon height angle. This whole project can be done much easier from the top of a small mountain rather than a balloon.
If anyone wants to prove flat earth or globe earth, let him do this project, or find where people have done it. Actually, this or similar has been done long ago - https://flatearthinsanity.blogspot.com/2016/09/how-al-biruni-calculated-circumference.html.
Find additional similar doings.
Jeezus dude,
If you spent half the time investigating your sky fairy nonsense as you do to replying to batty's flat earth drivel in here,
you'd have figured out years ago that your imaginary friend is just as imaginary as a flat earth.
Then again, after seeing all the nonsense you post in other threads...maybe not...
I lost 80.1% of my brain cells reading this topic. It was a fun afternoon. Thanks guys
Well, only another 19.9% to go, and you can be a flat earther, just like batty....
I lost 80.1% of my brain cells reading this topic. It was a fun afternoon. Thanks guys
^^^ Outer space is a hoax, it requires faith in cartoon images and paid actors.
The cosmological model presented in the bible i.e. a flat stationary earth is both observable and measurable, it's consistent with the scientific method.
The globe model is neither observable nor measurable, it requires faith, faith in a government agency called NASA named after the word for deception (to deceive) in Hebrew.
#faith
@TwitchySeal, BADecker is what's known as a gatekeeper.
The cosmological model presented in the bible i.e. a flat stationary earth is both observable and measurable, it's consistent with the scientific method.
The globe model is neither observable nor measurable, it requires faith, faith in a government agency called NASA named after the word for deception (to deceive) in Hebrew.
#faith
@TwitchySeal, BADecker is what's known as a gatekeeper.
Your ideas are the hoax.
^^^ Outer space is a hoax, it requires faith in cartoon images and paid actors.
The cosmological model presented in the bible i.e. a flat stationary earth is both observable and measurable, it's consistent with the scientific method.
The globe model is neither observable nor measurable, it requires faith, faith in a government agency called NASA named after the word for deception (to deceive) in Hebrew.
#faith
@TwitchySeal, BADecker is what's known as a gatekeeper.
The cosmological model presented in the bible i.e. a flat stationary earth is both observable and measurable, it's consistent with the scientific method.
The globe model is neither observable nor measurable, it requires faith, faith in a government agency called NASA named after the word for deception (to deceive) in Hebrew.
#faith
@TwitchySeal, BADecker is what's known as a gatekeeper.
Take a look around, the earth is flat for as far as the eye can see. The globe on the other hand is something that requires faith, it's not something you'll ever see with your own eyes.
Hashtag #faith
Hashtag #faith
Thank you for the nice pictures of yourself. Was it done by plastic surgery? Or do you have a friend who is a makeup artist? Standard CGI?
Take a look around. The earth appears to be flat for as far as the eye can see. The globe on the other hand is something that requires technical observation. It's not something you'll ever see with your own eyes unless you fly into space.
Take a look around, the earth is flat for as far as the eye can see. The globe on the other hand is something that requires faith, it's not something you'll ever see with your own eyes.
Hashtag #faith
Hashtag #faith
^^^ That post gave me cancer.
@BADecker, that link you posted is nonsense and lies. It completely disregards the optical compression that occurs at the angular resolution limit of the eye or camera then starts claiming it's the earth that's curving. The article then goes on to fake a horizon drop with a smartphone theodolite app zeroed off-centre.
The icing on this cake of shit is the illustration they provide:
LOL
@BADecker, that link you posted is nonsense and lies. It completely disregards the optical compression that occurs at the angular resolution limit of the eye or camera then starts claiming it's the earth that's curving. The article then goes on to fake a horizon drop with a smartphone theodolite app zeroed off-centre.
The icing on this cake of shit is the illustration they provide:
LOL
All that you are saying is that sighting with transit, and then calculating the measurements, doesn't work. If in your mind it doesn't work, why are you so intent on the idea that the earth is flat. Since sight and sight measurement doesn't work, are you smelling that the earth is flat?
You rely on Youtube videos that you say show the earth is flat. Yet you want to disregard cellphone stuff that's in an article that I mentioned. Yet the cellphone stuff isn't really the important part of the measuring in the article.
The thing that you are really doing is to negate anything that you say by negating the things that I say? How are you doing this? We are both using similar measurement methods. If you negate my using of them, you negate your using of them.
Mine work. Yours don't. In addition, your picture doesn't illustrate what I said.
Omg wow.
Batman, a Flat Earther
VS
BADECKER,
, Our resident Conspiracy Theorist/Anti-Vaxxer/Moon Landing was Fake/Bin Laden is Still Alive/Chem Trails/and on and on and on...Prepare yourself for some disinformation folks.
Winner gets the tin foil crown.
I'm pretty surprised BADecker isn't a Flat Earther. I guess he decided to pick one wacky conspiracy to not endorse to seem....not crazy?
^^^ That post gave me cancer.
Yeah, the truth hurts Batty.
I can't even imagine the stupidity required to make such a post.
But please, whatever the case, don't forget to donate your brain to humanity. Scientists need to find that flat gene.
Can you imagine 800 pages of something as silly as flat earth? You have it all wrong, clearly the world is on the back of a turtle moving thru space. Just be thankful its not a Thoroid, Homer would be pleased...
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