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May 18, 2019, 07:31:27 AM
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Dufour & Prunier conducted a replication of the Sagnac experiment that took rotating frames of reference into account thus, falsifying relativity and removing all objections to the static aether.

You're dismissed.


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"Georges Sagnac , born on October 14 , 1869 in Périgueux and died on February 26 , 1928 is a French physicist who left his name to the Sagnac effect , a phenomenon that is the basis of interferometers and gyrolasers developed from the late 1970s. He was also the discoverer of fluorescence. X" -- wiki

"Alexandre Dufour is a French physicist who succeeded Georges Sagnac as lecturer in physics for the PCN certificate ( 1st year of medical studies) at the Faculty of Sciences of the University of Paris in September 1920. He obtained the title of professor without a chair on April 1 , 1927 , then was appointed full professor on October 1 , 1931 .

He was the inventor of the cathode oscillograph , which he described the process from 1914 1 , before publishing the detail of the device in 1920 2 ."
-- wiki

"Fernand Maurice Daniel Prunier is a French anti-relativist engineer, born on October 21, 1897 and died on September 21, 1971 1 , 2 ." -- wiki


"Summary : In a first series of experiments, here accessories, but which nevertheless had to be realized, we used an entire optical circuit integral with the rotating platform as in the previous works of Sagnac. In these conditions we have found that the observed fringe displacements are the same to within 6%, that the light source and the photographic receiver are involved in the rotation of the platform, as in the Sagnac experiments, or that they remain fixed in the laboratory. The second series of experiments described here was intended to study the movement of the fringes due to rotation, under completely new conditions characterized by the fact that the optical circuit of the two superimposed interfering beams is formed of two parts in series, one of which remains fixed relative to the laboratory while the other is secured to the platform in rotation. The displacement of the fringes, obtained under these new conditions, has been that which can be foreseen by classical theory. In the case where the optical circuit is entirely integral with the rotating disk, as in the Sagnac experiments, the observer does not have the means to make a choice between the interpretations of the placement of the fringes obtained respectively given by the theory. classical and by relativistic theorists. But, in the case where there is a part of the circuit which remains fixed in relation to the laboratory, the relativistic theorist can not remain in agreement with the classical theorist, nor with the results observed, supposing, as he had done so far, here, that the center, where it is supposed to be placed to make the calculation of the experiment, can be chosen arbitrarily on the rotating platform. This center must be confused with the center of rotation of the platform." -- On a displacement of fringes recorded on a platform in uniform rotation, with Alexandre Dufour (1940)

So why should we believe that exactly? Because it's written there? If I write: the relativistic theorist can remain in agreement with the classical theorist, would you believe it? Have you done the experiment yourself or are you trained enough to even understand the experiment? No you aren't, you read a summary on the internet that said something and you believed it, 0 critical thinking.
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May 17, 2019, 04:57:06 PM
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Dufour & Prunier conducted a replication of the Sagnac experiment that took rotating frames of reference into account thus, falsifying relativity and removing all objections to the static aether.

You're dismissed.


ref:

"Georges Sagnac , born on October 14 , 1869 in Périgueux and died on February 26 , 1928 is a French physicist who left his name to the Sagnac effect , a phenomenon that is the basis of interferometers and gyrolasers developed from the late 1970s. He was also the discoverer of fluorescence. X" -- wiki

"Alexandre Dufour is a French physicist who succeeded Georges Sagnac as lecturer in physics for the PCN certificate ( 1st year of medical studies) at the Faculty of Sciences of the University of Paris in September 1920. He obtained the title of professor without a chair on April 1 , 1927 , then was appointed full professor on October 1 , 1931 .

He was the inventor of the cathode oscillograph , which he described the process from 1914 1 , before publishing the detail of the device in 1920 2 ."
-- wiki

"Fernand Maurice Daniel Prunier is a French anti-relativist engineer, born on October 21, 1897 and died on September 21, 1971 1 , 2 ." -- wiki


"Summary : In a first series of experiments, here accessories, but which nevertheless had to be realized, we used an entire optical circuit integral with the rotating platform as in the previous works of Sagnac. In these conditions we have found that the observed fringe displacements are the same to within 6%, that the light source and the photographic receiver are involved in the rotation of the platform, as in the Sagnac experiments, or that they remain fixed in the laboratory. The second series of experiments described here was intended to study the movement of the fringes due to rotation, under completely new conditions characterized by the fact that the optical circuit of the two superimposed interfering beams is formed of two parts in series, one of which remains fixed relative to the laboratory while the other is secured to the platform in rotation. The displacement of the fringes, obtained under these new conditions, has been that which can be foreseen by classical theory. In the case where the optical circuit is entirely integral with the rotating disk, as in the Sagnac experiments, the observer does not have the means to make a choice between the interpretations of the placement of the fringes obtained respectively given by the theory. classical and by relativistic theorists. But, in the case where there is a part of the circuit which remains fixed in relation to the laboratory, the relativistic theorist can not remain in agreement with the classical theorist, nor with the results observed, supposing, as he had done so far, here, that the center, where it is supposed to be placed to make the calculation of the experiment, can be chosen arbitrarily on the rotating platform. This center must be confused with the center of rotation of the platform." -- On a displacement of fringes recorded on a platform in uniform rotation, with Alexandre Dufour (1940)
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May 17, 2019, 03:59:53 PM
^^^ M&M was simply a failed experiment to detect the aether. It has nothing to do with suggesting that the Earth is flat or a globe. Whose density are you... "Back to the Future" 1984?

The premise of the M&M is that the speed of light would be different in perpendicular directions because the Earth is moving. Because the result showed no movement according to the premise, the M&M experiment is strong empirical evidence that the Earth is stationary. This was explained away by Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity, which claimed that the speed of light is the same in all inertial frames of reference. How convenient!

It turns out that one can't just dismiss Einstein's theory because there is plenty of other evidence that confirms that the speed of light is the same in all inertial frames of reference. As a result, the M&M experiment cannot be considered good evidence that the Earth is stationary because the premise (that the speed of light is not constant) is contradicted by strong evidence.
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May 17, 2019, 01:05:51 PM
M&M (1887) is the most famous failed experiment because it failed to measure any motion [of the earth] other than a drift caused by the wake of rotating stars above.



KYS stands.





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May 17, 2019, 12:34:25 PM
^^^ M&M was simply a failed experiment to detect the aether. It has nothing to do with suggesting that the Earth is flat or a globe. Whose density are you... "Back to the Future" 1984?

Cool

How can You know all this things: are You CIA-FBI-KGB??
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May 17, 2019, 12:13:37 PM
^^^ M&M was simply a failed experiment to detect the aether. It has nothing to do with suggesting that the Earth is flat or a globe. Whose density are you... "Back to the Future" 1984?

Cool
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May 17, 2019, 11:42:56 AM
^^^ KYS




Ammunition:
The 1887 Michelson & Morley experiment - empirical proof the earth is stationary.



@BADecker,

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May 17, 2019, 01:37:14 AM
I have no doubt in it that earth is flat, and you should see most of the videos are here in YouTube and they give us proof that our earth is flat. So see this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RywkkwO78m8.
Moon revolves around the earth and Sun is also revolves around the earth and our earth between them. 
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May 17, 2019, 12:06:37 AM
How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

you definitely confused me because before I read this topic I had the thoughts about the earth is really in sphere shaped but after that my mind also think we can be a flat round shape.

All of these models have been proven wrong many times over.


3D is flawed, its the same as saying there is only 10 numbers because you cant see the 11th finger.

Learn 4 D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGO12Z5Lw8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyuRLmCphHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4ruHJFsb4g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGguwYPC32I

4D Roller Coasters: Explained

And the sell-out Carl Sagan
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May 16, 2019, 09:41:44 PM
In the manual way you do not know it
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May 16, 2019, 07:19:55 PM
^^^ Your the one who wants to fuck an injured soldier's open wound and pump it full of salty liquid. Have you asked your psychologist about this morbidly homoerotic fantasy of yours? If he's a Jewish shrink he's going want all kinds of details...


Lucy, you got some splainin to do!

I Love luficer Transvestigation -- https://youtu.be/4G4l1VbLkzU

I don't really blame you, you know. What else can you do?, now that your FE ideas have come crashing down on you. It can be expected that you will fume around cussing for a while.

Why don't you skip all that childishness, now that you finally had your coffee. Instead, get to work on finding the places where your FE ideals failed you. All this warped verbalized pouting doesn't get you anywhere.

Cool
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May 16, 2019, 05:40:26 PM
How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?


you definitely confused me because before I read this topic I had the thoughts about the earth is really in sphere shaped but after that my mind also think we can be a flat round shape.
legendary
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May 16, 2019, 03:00:32 PM
^^^ Your the one who wants to fuck an injured soldier's open wound and pump it full of salty liquid. Have you asked your psychologist about this morbidly homoerotic fantasy of yours? If he's a Jewish shrink he's going want all kinds of details...


Lucy, you got some splainin to do!

I Love luficer Transvestigation -- https://youtu.be/4G4l1VbLkzU
legendary
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May 16, 2019, 11:04:32 AM
^^^ Oh, I get it. Victoria is your shrink, right?

Wake up and realize that there isn't anything flat in the universe, especially not the Earth.

Cool
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May 16, 2019, 10:17:59 AM
^^^ Can you guess what Victoria's secret is?

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May 16, 2019, 07:57:29 AM
^^^ Sit back, NBM, a little bit away from your computer, and look at what you are saying in that last post of yours. And I don't only mean the logic of your FE stuff. You are showing everybody that you are living in a fantasy world. Really, you should make an appointment with your psychological moderator before you go off the deep end ledge into the abyss.

Cool
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May 15, 2019, 05:49:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nUFLLUahSI

No mirage here and the boat still disappears bottom first as its shrinking.

There is a mirage. You can see it clearly at the very end of the video when the birds fly by. Though that doesn't explain why the view of the bottom of the boat is blocked by water.


It's not blocked by water, the atmosphere is causing light to refract and it creates an angled mirror that the ship passes through. The first part to enter and become engulfed by the mirage (a narrow mirroring band that covers the horizon line that reflects the sky) is the bottom of the ship. The area that becomes covered by the mirror zone reflects some of the ship (proportional to the covered area) from directly above it. The ship then gets smaller, the effects of being engulfed, mirrored and shrunk results in the ship eventually disappearing from view.

The water line you see is not the horizon line, the actual horizon line is covered by mirroring from the narrow band mirage. That edge you see is the start of the mirage and it starts just below the actual horizon line where the apparent angular size of objects becomes too shallow.

If you're wondering about objects being blocked by the ground, yes it happens but it depends on the situation. Because of your perspective, if your camera/eye is on the ground/water things like waves and sea swell can have a "ramp-up" effect that can physically obscure the bottoms of objects. A perspective so low to the ground creates such an extreme apparent compression of objects that, combined with the "ramp-up" effect of waves or grass in front of the object, distance to the horizon is greatly reduced such that it becomes a physical line of grass, bumps or waves etc.

The situation changes for more distant objects, they can be affected by atmospheric magnification (looming). A refractive lensing effect where water droplets form a compound magnifying lens and objects apparent sizes are enlarged. Magnified objects have part of the bottom obscured because there is no increase in elevation as their size increases, this is a masking effect on an optically enlarged object.


https://www.physics-astronomy.org/2019/03/selfie-from-top-of-everest-destroys.html
Selfie From Top Of Everest ‘Destroys Flat Earth Theory Once And For All’
The curvature in that image is clearly due to the lens -- even the closer objects are distorted.

You can't use a simple photograph to show curvature because you don't know how much of that curvature is due to distortion by the lens

That's not proof we're on a globe, it's a cry for help. Also, that's a lot of fucking garbage they've left on the peak.

Distance to the horizon is solid proof of a flat earth; we see too far with a good zoom lens.








...[clip]...
Well, thank you. So, you admit that they are tricking you into thinking that the Earth is flat, when all the science says that it is a globe.

Btw, Sandra is a girl's name. Did you know that?
...[clip]...

Let me use anime to explain this:



She looks cute right? No, it's a soldier who's been severely injured in battle and has a festering, gaping wound between his legs. Now you want to go and fuck his open wound like like some kind sick bastard and aggravate his injury?

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May 15, 2019, 03:14:57 PM
https://www.physics-astronomy.org/2019/03/selfie-from-top-of-everest-destroys.html
Selfie From Top Of Everest ‘Destroys Flat Earth Theory Once And For All’
The curvature in that image is clearly due to the lens -- even the closer objects are distorted.

You can't use a simple photograph to show curvature because you don't know how much of that curvature is due to distortion by the lens
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May 15, 2019, 02:14:48 PM
Open Google maps Grin
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May 15, 2019, 01:43:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nUFLLUahSI

No mirage here and the boat still disappears bottom first as its shrinking.

There is a mirage. You can see it clearly at the very end of the video when the birds fly by. Though that doesn't explain why the view of the bottom of the boat is blocked by water.
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