Topic: Food security in the world has been shaken by Russia's actions - page 11. (Read 2759 times)

Since Ukraine has not entered into any agreements with Russia, then what claims can you have against Russia? In this case, Russia is acting quite consistently, waiting for the next expiration of the grain deal and did not renew it, because its interests in this deal were ignored. After the withdrawal of security guarantees, traffic in the Black Sea ports of Ukraine dropped to zero and Russia began to launch missile attacks on port infrastructure without risking damaging any cargo ship flying the flag of a third country. Having destroyed the port infrastructure, Russia deprived Ukraine of a significant part of the foreign exchange earnings from the sale of grain, thereby bringing the successful completion of the entire special operation in Ukraine. For Russia, this is a matter of principle, it cannot afford to be defeated and acts according to the circumstances, approaching its goal. Russia just needs a neutral non-bloc status from Ukraine, and here you are playing out a whole tragedy with dramatic hand-wringing. It is Ukraine that wants to fight, not Russia.

We have already discussed the topic that Ukraine did not violate any terms of the grain deal with Russia, since Ukraine did not have any deals with Russia on this matter. Ukraine has concluded an agreement on the conditions for the export of its agricultural products from its ports in the Black Sea only with the UN and Turkey. But why is Russia now intensively bombing and firing rockets precisely at the ports of Ukraine and destroying the grain located there? The Putin regime is deliberately doing everything possible to keep Ukrainian grain out of the world market.

At the same time, will Russia distribute grain stolen in Ukraine to African countries for free? The Russian people (I emphasize - the people) are now trying to destroy the neighboring state of Ukraine and kill as many Ukrainians as possible. In my opinion, there is nothing to be proud of here.

We will see what the African countries will say about this. At the summit in St. Petersburg recently, they already made clear to Putin their attitude to what is happening.

You should understand that it will not be Putin's concern if the whole world suffer from food insecurity, inflation or not because that are under sanction and will want every other person to feel the negative impact. Blocking the grain deal is a sign for that. The effect of the Russian war has kept food prices high especially grain products. Grain is essential for the human feeding because large number of human consumption is from grain and they are all inflated now from bread, whiskey, beer, animal food, semolina, vodka, oats, flour.

If you think that any agreements with Russia are worthless and you can ignore the interests of Russia, which are also aimed at ensuring food security in the world - why are you surprised that Russia has suspended its participation in the grain deal? Take grain out of Ukraine without Russian security guarantees, if you can.

Russia has significantly increased grain exports in 2023 despite Western sanctions. The increase in grain exports fully compensates for the drop in grain exports from Ukraine as a result of the suspension of the grain deal.

Grain deal would still be active if Ukraine and it's allies would fulfill the conditions from their side. There's no sense in the deal if only one party is following the conditions. Btw, later Russia announced it's giving away a shitload of grain to African countries for free.

Tell me you are not confused by such a blatant attempt to confuse 2 different situations ?
1. The military and financial assistance of Western countries, started by the USA and Britain, is not charity. It is a partial fulfillment of obligations fixed in the Budapest Memorandum, which Russia violated.

2. Assistance to countries experiencing food shortages is an international program under the auspices of the United Nations, aimed at helping the population of the country and saving it from starvation. 

Ukraine is a victim of terrorist aggression by Russia. Russia is an aggressor and international terrorist. Russia initiated the sabotage of the grain deal.

The fact that Russia is now at a failed summit (2/3 of the invitees refused to go to the toxic Kremlin underfurrer), Putin is giving out grain and canceling debts is just an attempt to "buy the friendship" of some regimes. Although some participants of the summit understood perfectly well in what format Putin wants to use them and directly refused such "handouts": President Mnangagwa of Zimbabwe refused Russian free grain, he said so directly at the summit in Russia.

Everything has a cause but we don't know what the real cause is. If you want to know why, you can read the news by following the link that Marvell1 mentioned above or what pooya87 was talking about. You will have your answer, and if you believe it to be true, then Putin was not wrong in making that decision. Of course, this news may or may not be true, and like I said, we all don't know the truth behind it, so believe it or not it's up to you.

By the way, the war is still going on and there is no final outcome yet, so I will disagree when you say that Russia is failing with their special military operation.

Russia is really making a mistake with blocking this grain deal. Its very worth and important for whole world its not even related to anything military. I sometimes feel like Russia wants people to not focus on their unsuccessful operation in Ukraine. Food inflation is the evil mother of all evolution. Russia is directly causing food inflation for no reason whatsoever. It causes millions of people in the world to suffer. Someone should convince Putinists that this is far more important for whole world than their weird war.

As you said, free cheese is only in mousetrap. Ukraine should also be wary of countries that are supporting them unconditionally. And by your deduction, Ukraine is becoming a pawn of the US and NATO because they are also supplying weapons and many things that Ukraine needs for the war.

How funny, when someone wants to do charity is also suspected, rejected. While liars and dictators are always hailed as messengers of peace. Africa is a huge territory and they also have their own civilizations and developments. Do you think they are stupid enough to not know who they are playing with and what they are doing? Are you looking down on people from Africa?

You can’t think of anything more ridiculous than presenting as TRUTH a link to RUSSIAN, state PROPAGANDA!  
Remember - the Russian government lies as soon as it opens its mouth or writes a word, this is an axiom!

You also agreed on Putin, on his words that he would never attack fraternal Ukraine, and also respects and supports the integrity of its borders, as proof that nothing is happening in Ukraine, and this is all an "internal conflict", in terms of idiocy it will be on the same level
About the fact that Putin promised that there would be no mobilization - do not write, it will mentally hurt future conscripts-consumables in the Russian army, and leads to an understanding that life has passed and passed in vain

Although I have a different opinion from yours on many issues, I considered you a fairly adequate person, albeit with some features ...
But over and over again you are trying with all your might to convince me of the opposite, trying to throw out here just a fabulously inadequate alternative reality! What's wrong with your life, explain, I'm just at a loss to guess?! If you are being tortured and coerced - write an answer with more than one dot! 

Well, after a long laugh caused by reading "honest statements from Russia", let's get back to the topic:
As you know, an attempt to gather a new flock of tame dogs around us, in the form of a summit "Terrorists from Russia and Africa", has actually been carried out. more than 2/3 of African countries wiped their feet on Russia and showed that they do not want to touch this toxic heap.
Russia, of course, is now trying to make "big gestures", such as writing off debts to the next "friends for money", but in fact "" girl motorcades ".
And also promises to feed a little, in exchange for friendship, well, at least indicative. True, President of Zimbabwe Emmerson Mnangagwa, in response to the proposal of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin to supply free grain to the country, said that he definitely did not need grain from the Kremlin ghoul.
there is a second problem. If today Russia has really good grain harvests, in 2024 they most likely will not. The reason is quite real - the war will return to the land of the aggressor, and the western and, importantly, the southern regions, having assumed responsibility for previously committed crimes, will simply stop any activity due to the conduct of hostilities. It will be interesting to see what the next summit will look like, and what the leader of terrorist Russia will promise to those 1-2 guests

this is the way which should be accepted by every nation like if one nation is deprived of anything so they should worked for that to establish that thing in own country. Begging in front of other countries for little things will make you slaves so I think food and agriculture is that thing which we can grow in our own country.

If we focus to establish new ways to fulfil these needs then we should not be dependent on other countries. Dependency comes when we are not able to fulfil the requirements of citizens and are in hopes that other country will give these facilities to us so in this case we cannot become and independent nation ever.

I understand that you “know” from some specific resources what is happening in Ukraine ... I am a resident of Ukraine, I see it all with my own eyes ...
I will answer your proposal, but in a very uncultured way, sorry, but most likely you are simply VERY far from the reality of what is happening in Ukraine.
Try to apply your suggestion to yourself in the following situation: a gang in your area breaks into your house during the day, rapes and brutally kills your mother, maims your sister, kills your father and brother.
And you know that this is a gang that has been terrorizing your area for many years, and promises to continue to kill the inhabitants of your area, while they are armed and noticeably stronger than you. And you only have a kitchen knife...
And when you try to ask for help from the police or neighbors, they will tell you - “come on, everything is fine, that you made a fuss, because of some little things!? a gang of criminals because you want to destroy them, and pledge to love and respect them and live in peace with them.Don't you understand the complexity - the head of the gang is our district plumber, and in our area we will have to look for a new plumber and this is oh how important and really difficult, against the backdrop of some of your petty problems!".

Now tell me - do you agree?

PS. Now I am writing you an answer, and in Kyiv there is AGAIN an air raid, again a terrorist country will try to shell a peaceful city and destroy civilians, women, children, the elderly ... With whom to sign agreements?!


And most importantly - try to assess what really happened. Without Russian grain, the world will live in peace. But Russia has not only stopped shipments of its grain under the program, but is terrorizing everyone else to provoke a real crisis. This is terrorism. This is RASHISM.
This is revenge for the fact that sanctions were imposed on her for terrorism, and they are not allowed to launder money ...

Connecting Rosselkhozbank to SWIFT, unblocking foreign assets and accounts of Russian companies associated with the production and transportation of food and fertilizers, resuming supplies of agricultural machinery and spare parts, as well as restoring the operation of the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline.

Here is a link to the April statement of the Russian Foreign Ministry on this issue.

I am well aware that you have nothing to counter the TRUTH besides systemic lies and pathetic attempts to manipulate information

What terrorist attacks? The so-called "Crimean bridge" is an illegal facility built by the occupier on Ukrainian soil, and is used for the movement of enemy weapons and manpower. A terrorist attack is Moscow's shelling of peaceful Ukrainian cities. This is the destruction of towns and villages, this is the seizure of foreign territories, this is the violation of treaties and obligations.
And Ukraine is simply defending itself, and is legally destroying the aggressor. And this will continue until the complete destruction of Rashism, which is also engaged in economic terror against the whole world, such as attempts to stop the grain program for other countries.

And to summarize - Russia has no right to any demands of legality at all, as it is the world's biggest violator of treaties, agreements, and arrangements. There's a saying "you can't behave like a gentleman with a bastard". So this saying best describes what Russia deserves at the moment, with its total lies, cowardice, terrorism, murder, destruction....
By the way, all of this is supported, or tried to "justify", by you....


PS You still didn't indicate which ARRANGEMENTS were violated, which is generally expected by 150%

It was Russia's turn to stop exporting grain to Europe, asking for it to be withdrawn and asking for it to be reopened. It was Russia's turn to stop helping Ukraine, NATO and America were ignored, instead they continued to help by sending defense equipment. so it's only natural that it's balanced.

I think if they want to stop Russia from reopening exports, they have to stop helping arms to Ukraine and stop sanctions against Russia after that. Just have a truce and make peace. Of course Russia is willing (as long as Russia is not ordered to withdraw troops). Even if the reason is humanitarian hunger, if arms aid to Ukraine and sanctions against Russia are not stopped. Of course Russia doesn't want that. I as a layman also do not want.

All countries reacted, only scapegoating third countries who were starving, while Putin guaranteed the availability of food to African countries smoothly and for free and did not need to use any guarantees.

I see Putin has met with some African leaders for the second Russia-Africa summit, but the number of heads of states attending shrank from 43 then to 17. 

MOSCOW, July 27 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday told African leaders he would gift them tens of thousands of tons of grain despite Western sanctions.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-tells-african-leaders-ill-give-you-free-grain-despite-hypocritical-west-2023-07-27/

So, his strategy to garner support and to retain friends are to give out FREE grain.... in a time when nobody wants to buy grain from his country. 

This is a well written and informative write up, I appreciate that.  The sad thing is I know many, and I believe the majority of Russians want absolutely nothing to do with this war. Putin is an evil dictator, plain and simple.  It’s just too bad other nations like China and N Korea would back them up like they are.

Im not saying my country of the United States isn’t corrupt, because we are, but not in this type of fashion. Why can’t we just end war..imagine all the good that could come economically to nations when they spend money on the economy and not fighter jets and tanks. SMH

Always remember that free cheese is only in a mousetrap. Especially if Russia and Putin offer something free. True, at first, Putin may well interest African countries in free grain, which the Russian invaders are now stealing and massively exporting from the occupied territories of Ukraine through the Ukrainian port of Berdyansk, and by cars in the direction of Rostov.
In order to compromise Ukraine as a reliable supplier of grain and other agricultural products, Russia is now heavily bombarding Ukraine's Black Sea ports with cruise missiles, as well as Ukraine's grain supply route along the Danube. Therefore, the devil in Putin's guise cannot have good intentions. African countries need to be seriously wary of rapprochement with the Putin regime: they will give a dollar, take a thousand.

There doesn't need to be a monumental shift in global food exports for there to be panic. It causes a domino affect and countries begin hording their own supplies and limiting their exports. Also combine this with the fact that other massive food suppliers have limited exports.

India is banning half of rice exports: https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/india-prohibits-export-non-basmati-white-rice-notice-2023-07-20/

This isn't related to the war, it's because of weather issues that India's deciding to limit global exports. But consider what the total effect will be India's a large global supplier too. During the early days of the war, there was some food stockpiling out of panic. Doesn't take much to cause hysteria.