Topic: Food security in the world has been shaken by Russia's actions - page 5. (Read 2745 times)

Haha I had a good laugh. Out of all the vessels mentioned in the article only two (not 9) sank or were completely destroyed: missile cruiser Moskva  and 1964 built military transport Saratov. All other ships were damaged and will be repaired or were not even damaged at all (fake news spread by the UA intelligence).

Btw, most of these attacks on the Russian navy ships were performed or orchestrated by the US, using Western missiles, drones and intelligence. So you're making a bold statement by saying that Ukraine did it.   

So yeah, yet another lie. I kinda got used to it. 

Anyway, could you remind me why you're not fighting for your Motherland in the East? Just trolling here on this forum from the safety of your home while your heroic compatriots are dying?

After Russia withdrew from the “grain agreement,” about a hundred merchant ships loaded with agricultural products had already left the ports of Ukraine. This opportunity was ensured by the fact that Ukraine, practically without its own military fleet, is now very actively sinking the Russian Black Sea fleet, which was the only threat to commercial shipping in the Black Sea.During the full-scale war with Russia, that is, since February 2022, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have already destroyed at least nine and damaged at least 16 Russian warships.

Thus, on November 4, 2023, the Ukrainian Armed Forces attacked a shipyard in Russian-occupied Kerch with SCALP aircraft missiles. The target was the Russian corvette Askold, which was located there - the newest small missile ship of Project 22800 Karakurt, which was supposed to be commissioned by the Russian Black Sea Fleet in December 2023. It could carry up to 8 Caliber or Onyx missiles, and therefore its capabilities for delivering long-range strikes corresponded to the level of a frigate.

On November 10, 2023, near the village of Chernomorskoye on the Tarkhankut Peninsula in the occupied Crimea, seaborne drones of the Main Intelligence Directorate destroyed two Russian landing boats: the older Project 1176 Akula and the new Project 11770 Serna. At the time of the attacks, they were carrying a crew and loaded with armored vehicles, in particular, BTR-82. After the drone attack, the Shark sank immediately, the Chamois sank a little later.

https://nv.ua/ukraine/events/katera-serna-korvet-askold-korabli-minsk-i-saratov-i-submarina-kakie-korabli-rf-unichtozhila-ukraina-50366629.html

Of the several reasons that you say about war, the most dominant one is due to the struggle for territory or land and this is worthy of being called colonialism. Because war can cause many deaths of people who are innocent and do not have any interest in it, so the sense of humanity can also be lost from one of the countries involved in the war. Everyone, journalists and the press will look at history and the basic things that can trigger war in a country so they can see which country is guilty of this happening.

Although sometimes there are journalists who are paid specifically to create news that is not in accordance with the facts on the ground, only a small number of people are willing to do this because most people who still want to see peace and independence in a country will definitely tell the truth to heard by the public and the world or authorities in all countries.

Exactly. Love can speak, not hatred. War can't always bring peace and happiness. There are two countries involved in the war, but the countries behind them are shadow countries. War is happening for land, money, power, etc. Start a war through ammunition, political, economical, biological, chemical, etc. So if a war started, we needed to think about the history of the countries, identify the countries that poured gasoline into the fire, and take benefits from the war. They are the most pathetic countries.And most importantly, we need to abolish and restructure international organizations. It's just a joke; nothing more can be expected from those institutions.

On September 23, I listed Ukraine's impressive victories over the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Ukraine, which does not have its own fleet, is successfully sinking the Russian Black Sea Fleet both with missiles of its own production and with its own drones, a special place among which is given to a relatively new type of weapon - surface and underwater drones. Since that time, two more have been added to the list of damaged or sunk Russian ships.

Thus, on October 11, it became known that the Russian large patrol ship Pavel Derzhavin was blown up in the outer roadstead of Russian-occupied Ukrainian Sevastopol. Corvette Pavel Derzhavin (board number 363) was laid down in 2016 and launched in 2019. He has been in the Russian Black Sea Fleet since 2020. The 94 meter long ship can accommodate up to 80 people.
Residents of Sevastopol heard the sound of an explosion at about 10 am. Since June 2022, the armament of the Pavel Derzhavin has been reinforced with the Tor-M2KM anti-aircraft missile system installed on the stern. It is capable of carrying up to 8 Caliber cruise missiles. There are only four such ships in the Russian Black Sea Fleet. It was initially assumed that the ship could have been hit by a mine, so Russia deployed minesweepers, but to no avail. Since they did not understand what happened to their ship, the situation repeated itself on October 13. Russian Telegram channels confirm that the ship Derzhavin was attacked again around noon on October 13 while leaving Sevastopol Bay and suffered damage to the rudder group. The tug Nikolai Muru was sent to assist him, which was also attacked. The damaged "Nikolai Mura" was towed to the harbor.

In addition, on October 13, in a joint operation of the SBU and the Ukrainian Navy, the Buyan launch vehicle was also attacked. Both ships were hit by Ukrainian unmanned maritime drones "Sea Baby" with experimental weapons.

Sources:
https://myc.news/politika/poteri_chernomorskogo_flota_rf_v_vms_raskryli_podrobnosti

https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2023/10/13/7423968/

https://censor.net/ru/news/3449293/sbu_i_vms_porazili_rossiyiskiyi_raketonositel_buyan_i_korabl_pavel_derjavin_morskimi_dronami_istochnik

They are now trying to hide the remnants of the Russian Black Sea Fleet away from occupied Crimea in Russian ports. Thus, Ukraine successfully solves the problem of exporting its agricultural products from its ports to the world market, although Russia continues to attack its ports mainly with aerial drones.

Everything is very cool, but where is the indication that it was a “Ukrainian mine”? As I understand it, the main thing for you is not the essence, but to attribute something to Ukraine in order to try to remove the blame from the country of the international terrorist Russia?
As I understand it, even if you get diarrhea on the road, you will habitually yell “it was the Ukrainians who shit in my pants,” leaving traces behind you as you go?
Any consequences of the war are the responsibility of the country that started the war, both direct and indirect! so Russia will not be able to shift responsibility for its crimes onto others

Sea mines can be used not only to protect the sea coast from enemy landings, but also to intimidate any shipping in a certain area of the sea. Previously, Russia frightened Ukraine and the whole world with its Black Sea Fleet, and it was with the help of its military fleet in the Black Sea that it blocked the supply of agricultural products from Ukraine to the world market. However, after the Ukrainian Armed Forces launched a missile attack on a dry dock in Sevastopol on September 13 and destroyed the Russian large landing ship Minsk and the Rostov-on-Don submarine, Russia transferred at least 10 ships from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk away from the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Among them, the frigates Admiral Makarov and Admiral Essen, three diesel submarines, five landing ships and several small missile ships were withdrawn from Crimea.
https://tsn.ua/ru/ato/rossiya-vyvodit-svoi-korabli-iz-kryma-analitiki-obyasnili-chego-boyatsya-okkupanty-2423728.html

Since Russian missile and drone attacks on the Danube ports of Ukraine do not produce the desired effect, and Russia hides its Black Sea Fleet even further, sea mines are another factor in intimidating civilian shipping so that they do not export grain from Ukraine, and you correctly noted this. An aggressor country and a terrorist country, Russia continues to increase the number of its bloody crimes.

Here we go with the Iranian propaganda and lies, how did a sunken vessel in the 1988 manage to sail for two more decades and be decomissioned in 2015? In reality, the US Navy sank half of the Iranian navy in Operation Praying Mantis in a couple of hours, just as it would do right now.

And speaking of civilian aircrafts, no words for how your incompetent IRCG terrorists shot down a civilian airplane that was taking off from your own airport killing hundreds?  

If it were for Pooya and his terrorist propaganda Iran has already sunk more US carriers than all the countries in the world have built to date, and also inflicted damage of quadrilions of dollars. Again, in reality, the Iran forces fly USA-manufactured aircraft from the '60, the Iranian navy has ships built in the '70 and '60 in Europe and US and their GDP per capita rivals Zimbabwe.The only thing Iran can threaten and murder is innocent civilians not wearing a headscarf!

And here we still have someone who thinks Iran is some kind of regional power!

The similarities are pretty weak while the differences are so massive that you can't even begin to compare the two.

In the 80's Saddam as the invader was backed by both US and Russia and also NATO specially when it came to full scale invasion of Iran, it was more than 60 countries that helped invade Iran.
In comparison there are about 60 countries helping Ukraine defend against invasion!

Even the air and naval war was vastly different.
After the invasion had failed despite NATO's help for years, US decided to take the war to the sea specially because in comparison to US Navy, Iran didn't have much back in the 80's, just a couple of light warships and fast-boats.
The passenger plane United States shot down (Iran Air Flight 655) wasn't some militia making a mistake, it was an official order from Washington to shoot it down by the US Navy (specifically the USS Vincennes) in response to Iran sinking the USN destroyer (USS Samuel B. Roberts). They even awarded Vincennes captain with Legion of Merit medal for murdering civilians!!!

Well it's obvious that it's a Ukrainian mine just take a look at the map of the are where it happened. Landing or anti-landing mines are used to protect the coast from enemy landing. Can you see any Russia-controlled coastal areas around the place where the incident happened? 

Try to use your brain a bit, too much propaganda is bad for your brain. 

And finally, even if it really was a Russian mine, it's even worse news for the grain logistics in the area.

In this message, you clearly indicated that a Turkish cargo ship was blown up by a Ukrainian mine, and that: “Ukraine refused to comment, only mentioning “WW2 mines or mines left from last year's efforts to protect the ports from Russian assaults.” However, in the text of the article, on which you refer to, this is not the case. In this article, Reuters refers to information from the British maritime security company Ambrey, and regarding the commentary of the Ukrainian representative, it states: "A Ukrainian government source confirmed a vessel had struck a mine, adding it was "probably a World War II mine, or the landing mines that were left there last year", falling further comment". Moreover, the text of the article you are referring to indicates that this sea mine could have been installed by the Russian military: "Russia may use sea mines to target civilian shipping in the Black Sea, including by laying them on the approach to Ukrainian ports, the British government said on Wednesday citing intelligence. Ambrey said on Thursday the incident occurred on the same day that the company "informed its clients of a likely additional sea mine deployment by the Russian navy conducted to frustrate Ukraine's grain exports."
You claim that the mine on which the Turkish cargo ship was blown up is Ukrainian, which does not correspond to the text of this article.

You indicated, with reference to a representative of Ukraine, that the mine remained from last year’s efforts to protect ports from Russian attacks, which is also illogical. After the flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, the missile cruiser Moskva, was scuttled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on April 14, 2022, with two Ukrainian Neptune missiles, since then Russian warships have been afraid to come close to the shores of Ukraine, which means that since then it has made no sense to the Ukrainians lay mines to protect their ports. It turns out that for the last year and a half, no one has been blown up by Ukrainian mines, and as soon as Russia began to impede the export of Ukrainian grain along the Danube and attack this particular route off the Romanian coast with missiles and drones, suddenly Ukrainian mines that were installed a year and a half ago appeared, sailing all the way from the waters of the Black Sea ports Ukraine. It’s completely illogical, given that Russia is now interested in installing such mines.

Those are small events that have a great impact at a macroeconomic level. If the damage was minor and everybody was safe, if it has happened in a route that is frequently traveled so the probabilities to happen again are minimal, why should vessel insurance prices and, therefore, grain prices be impacted? my two cents: because there are important economic interest in that happening. In the end, the citizens will pay for it, for the enrichment of a few.

Putins war reminds me of Sadams invasion of Kuwait for a seemingly easy victory and also the Iran Iraq war which filled the sea with mines also making it dangerous for all.  Russian supplied weapons and supported militia have already shot down a neutral passenger plane and similar failures have occurred in the middle east because of the ongoing tensions and violence causing the deaths of those without link to that fight.  
  There is no gain for either side in each battle only an exchange of losses with the chaos of death for anyone nearby also.  Russia I believe will be careful with the African nations not to upset those possible allies and upset the whole world with an aimless war thats already lost Russia much on every front.
  EU markets are impacted by the lack of transport by water meaning grain is far in excess supply by land to any nearby nation.  As Ukraine is wanting to join EU Im sure they will try to avoid upsetting that market but its also a natural effect of an inability to supply their normal global markets.  Many other negative effects as well as that, trucks cannot replace the massive cargo ships anyhow.

Meanwhile, Turkish cargo ship gets hit by a Ukrainian mine:


Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/turkish-cargo-ship-hits-mine-black-sea-sustains-minor-damage-2023-10-05/

This will undoubtedly have an impact on vessel insurance prices and worsen the grain crisis. Ukraine refused to comment, only mentioning "WW2 mines or mines left from last year's efforts to protect the ports from Russian assaults".

After the unilateral withdrawal of the Russian Federation from the grain agreement and reaching an agreement on the continuation of the export of Ukrainian food by the remaining three parties - Ukraine, Turkey and the UN, 12 ships with grain left Ukrainian ports. This was announced on Twitter on Monday, October 31, by the Minister of Infrastructure of Ukraine Alexander Kubrakov.

According to him, the UN and Turkish delegations are providing 10 groups of inspectors to inspect 40 ships as part of the grain initiative. Kubrakov indicated that the inspection plan for dry cargo ships was accepted by the Ukrainian side, and the Russian delegation was informed. In particular, the ship Ikaria Angel, carrying 40 thousand tons of grain, left Ukraine. Among other things, the exported food is intended for the residents of Ethiopia, who are faced with a real threat of famine, Kubrakov further said.

Although Russia continues to bomb and shell Ukraine's port infrastructure in the Black Sea in an effort to destroy the grain there and destroy the ability to supply it through the ports, Ukrainian attacks, especially by naval drones on the Russian Black Sea Fleet, have forced Russia to hide its warships away from Ukraine and the lack of " "Russian pirates" allows Ukraine to export its agricultural products almost freely.

If a Ukrainian missile malfunctions for some reason and falls somewhere else instead of the target and kills Ukrainian citizens, the root cause of all these deaths is still Russia. The Russian army treacherously invaded the territory of Ukraine, causing destruction and death to military and civilians in Ukraine. If it were not for the Russian military attack, the Ukrainian missile would not have been fired and there would not have been the accidental deaths that periodically happen in all wars.

  Now let’s return to the grain deal terminated by Russia. It seems that the joy of Russians over Russia’s refusal to participate in the “grain deal” is premature. This is now noted even by collaborators and traitors of Ukraine, who admit that the refusal of the grain deal was a strategic mistake of the Kremlin, for which the Russian Black Sea Fleet is now paying. As Odessa collaborator and traitor to Ukraine Igor Dimitriev writes in his telegram, the Russian Black Sea Fleet is now “systematically being expelled from the annexed Crimea... The Russian Black Sea Fleet in Crimea is now paying for the Kremlin’s action, which is almost daily subjected to attacks from Ukrainian missiles and drones...Ukraine is seeking the withdrawal of the Black Sea Fleet to Novorossiysk, which will expose the Crimean coast and allow the landing of small sabotage groups... After this, Novorossiysk itself will come under attack. This will create serious economic problems - a significant part of Russian grain and oil exports goes through Novorossiysk. Replacing this route is very complicated. Following Ukrainian grain exports, Russian grain exports may collapse. The joy from the termination of the deal was premature," Dimitriev complained. Source: https://www.dialog.ua/war/281658_1695457429

Russia felt its first serious loss in the Black Sea on March 24, 2022. On this day, one of the largest landing ships of the Russian Navy, Saratov, was disabled by a Tochka-U missile in the port of Berdyansk. Several more landing ships - Novocherkassk, Orsk and Tsezar Kunikov - were damaged.

  On April 13, 2022, the Ukrainian army dealt a crushing blow to the flagship missile cruiser Moskva with a Ukrainian shore-based cruise missile Neptune. The cruiser caught fire and sank to the bottom. At least 37 sailors were killed and about 100 were injured.

On June 17, 2022, the Ukrainian army destroyed the Russian tug Vasily Bekh, which was carrying the Tor anti-aircraft missile system. And on October 29, the new Russian flagship frigate Admiral Makarov, the minesweeper Ivan Golubets and another ship were damaged in the Bay of Sevastopol.

In addition, the Ukrainian army has damaged five more Russian ships in the Black Sea in just the last few weeks—in fact, 10% of the entire fleet based there.

Thus, on the night of September 12-13, a missile strike was carried out on the invaders’ dry dock in Sevastopol. The targets were the large landing ship Minsk and the diesel-electric submarine Rostov-on-Don, one of four submarines of the Black Sea Fleet that carries Kalibr cruise missiles. As a result of the attack, the Minsk lost almost its entire superstructure, and the submarine received two large holes in its hull from a direct hit from missiles.

On September 14, information appeared about new attacks on Russian ships in the Black Sea. The Ukrainian Armed Forces reported that the Ukrainian Defense Forces damaged two Project 22160 patrol ships of the Vasily Bykov type. And on Friday, September 15, an experimental SBU drone shot down the Russian missile ship Samum near Sevastopol Bay. The impact hit the rear of the ship. The ship received significant damage and lost speed. As a result, the occupiers had to tow the Samum for repairs with a large trim to the stern and a list to starboard. Source: https://focus.ua/eksklyuzivy/593217-rossiyskie-korabli-v-lovushke-kogda-ukraina-smozhet-unichtozhit-chernomorskiy-flot

On the night of September 14, military counterintelligence of the Security Service of Ukraine and the Ukrainian Navy destroyed the Russian S-400 Triumph air defense system near Yevpatoria in annexed Crimea, worth $1.2 billion. First, drones hit the target, hitting the complex's radars and antennas, and then the Ukrainian military launched two Neptune cruise missiles at the launch complexes. This is already the loss of the second S-400 Triumph complex out of six deployed on the occupied Crimean peninsula, which Russia considered impregnable.

Regular strikes against Russian air defenses and airfields in Crimea now allow the Ukrainian Armed Forces to launch precise strikes against other Russian targets and control points.
Thus, on September 22, during a meeting at the headquarters of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in the center of occupied Sevastopol, several missile strikes were carried out, as a result of which the building was penetrated from the roof to the basement. After the strike, the commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, Admiral Sokolov, was listed as missing, and among the wounded were the commander of the group, Colonel General Romanchuk, and the chief of staff, Lieutenant General Tsekov.

https://www.svoboda.org/a/po-shtabu-chernomorskogo-flota-v-sevastopole-udarili-raketoy/32604638.html
https://news.online.ua/budanov-nazval-poteri-rossiyan-posle-udara-po-shtabu-chf-rf-sredi-ranenyh-generaly_n864521/

The situation is changing. It was necessary to put StormShadow in Ukraine, as the Black Sea fleet of the "second army of the world", staggered, and some even went to the bottom After that, the "terrible, invincible and unparalleled" remaining fleet of the terrorist country, cowardly moved to the Sea of Azov, and now has completely forgotten about its formidable promises to "consider any ships going to Ukrainian ports as those that carry weapons", and quietly sits in the docks and harbors
I have been saying for a long time - terrorists should be simply destroyed, and they become "quiet and calm".

PS About the Sea of Azov - and here a new surprise awaits the fleet of the terrorist country.... but about it a little later

Bad news for you, troll: it was a Ukrainian missile. It's actually AFU destroying their own citizens! 


Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/world/europe/ukraine-missile-kostiantynivka-market.html

There are also reports of other incidents involving air defence systems in Ukraine, when missiles miss aircraft or enemy rocket and hit residential buildings. But I guess Russia is to blame for poor skills of AFU personnel?   

Putin and his troops continue to bomb and shell Ukraine’s Black Sea port infrastructure, elevators and grain storage facilities. Thus, Putin is deliberately creating a shortage of grain that will not reach world markets, and this, in turn, will increase prices. Doesn't this bother you? Is this how Putin ensures uninterrupted food supplies to African countries? Or by taking stolen grain from the occupied territories of Ukraine and trying to sell it to third countries?

But I do not propose to argue, I am stating the facts of crimes committed by a terrorist country - Russia! And also the fact that many countries in the developed West are fulfilling their human duty in the fight against RASCHISM.
A significant part of the charges have already been recognized at the official international level, including a crime, a copy of the Nazi regime, the abduction and removal of children from occupied territories, for which a certain Putin V, V, is wanted by the International CRIMINAL Tribunal in The Hague.
What is there to argue about? The court ruled and the international community recognized the crimes.

And the most important thing is that Russia has shown the whole world that it is possible to violate international agreements and destabilize the security of not only the region but also the whole world, if some regime has the right not to bear responsibility and punishment! Plus, most likely, after the defeat of Russia, the world will reconsider the work and expediency of some international organizations that can only receive money but not fulfill their obligations, such as the UN, the Red Cross and many other “impotent” structures


Is this your post?



Here you don’t say a word about the fact that the initiator and aggressor is Russia, and Ukraine is defending itself, and it is being helped not only by the United States but by the whole world. Moreover, the United States and Britain are fulfilling their obligations under the Budapest Memorandum. But you blame the United States for this war and for supporting Ukraine’s weapons. This is really an absolutely controversial idea