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Quote from: cytpoway121 on July 02, 2023, 03:11:57 PM

I think the effects of the Saudi teams are not that bad as being portrayed by the media; this is something that happens in every transfer window. At some point it was PSG buying every best gems in Europe to France, at some point it was Real Madrid splashing the cash to get Galaticos, Even Manchester City had their fair share; splashing lots of money on players in the market transfer, and Barcelona is not left out too. Now it is time to the Saudi league to flex the wealth of their football team, get the necessary viewers and fame too.

Agree. The media makes it like something extraordinary, whereas it is a common thing. If Saudi clubs don't spend a lot of money, no top players will play there. So, it is normal if Saudi clubs use huge amount of money. We also must realize that most the top players who move to Saudi are the old players. So, it doesn't give a big impact on the competitions in Europe.

It is true that even Man City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, or other big teams in Europe also spend a lot of money for signing top players. Considering this matter, it is not fair if we judge Saudi clubs to do the wrong thing. It is the way they can do to improve their local league competition.

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Milan are after some of Chelsea players lately. Loftus-Cheek deal has already been completed by Milan for only a transfer fee of 16 million euros. Now they are negotiating the transfer fee for Christian Pulisic. He is already okay for a move to Milan right now but there is still no agreement on the fee. Because while Milan are trying to make them accept a fee below his market value which is €25m. But Chelsea don't want that.

I can't even understand how Pulisic's value has dropped this much since the time he joined Chelsea. Because he was signed for 64 million and his value at Chelsea in his first times was 60 million. Many players have been wasted at Chelsea lately as it seems. Sad

Rebuilding continues for Chelsea anyway and it looks like they will be even the most active team in Europe in the transfer window.

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The Declan rice deal is fast becoming one of the hardest deal to come to pass in recent years, arsenal has really giving it their all to see that this transfer pulls through and even after Manchester city had made their interest known and latter fell back admitting they can't match Arsenal's deal the mover of Declan rice to north London has still not happened yet.

I believe if Declan rice doesn't move now he may never move again and it may just be another Harry Kane situation where the player never leaves or leaves when his form is completely dropped.

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Quote from: cytpoway121 on July 02, 2023, 03:11:57 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 02, 2023, 02:54:38 PM

The effect of Saudi teams in the market was not something small, they spend huge amounts of money to hire the players they want, and since many other teams and players are not expecting to see this amount of money they ask for higher offers and this changed the market situation, which is hard for many other teams with a bad financial situation.

I think the effects of the Saudi teams are not that bad as being portrayed by the media; this is something that happens in every transfer window. At some point it was PSG buying every best gems in Europe to France, at some point it was Real Madrid splashing the cash to get Galaticos, Even Manchester City had their fair share; splashing lots of money on players in the market transfer, and Barcelona is not left out too. Now it is time to the Saudi league to flex the wealth of their football team, get the necessary viewers and fame too.

The problem in this case I think there really is no problem with anyone or any club who really wants to transfer players, but specifically for clubs in the Arab League right now they are making too much noise with salaries in this regard.
Look how much they spend in one season for one European player. That's annoying sometimes because in any case when money talks things are going to be a little different and this is what makes them unpopular.
As an illustration, Ronlado's salary is 200 million, Benzema is 100 million and Kante is 86 million per season. This is far from their income in European competition. slightly disliked.
In terms of player transfers, it is natural wherever they go and whichever club they go to, but when there is an Arab club that is ready to accommodate them with a large salary, of course that is sometimes an option for some players.

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Quote from: blackened515 on July 02, 2023, 03:24:13 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 02, 2023, 02:54:38 PM

The effect of Saudi teams in the market was not something small, they spend huge amounts of money to hire the players they want, and since many other teams and players are not expecting to see this amount of money they ask for higher offers and this changed the market situation, which is hard for many other teams with a bad financial situation.

Other transfer windows are very different from this one; we have substantial bids coming in from the Saudi league, which has fully dominated the market. In the transfer window, we have beneficial as well as detrimental bids. This season, Saudi Arabia clubs have favorably influenced the football market by giving massive bids for players, and these players are tempted to take the offer without hesitation. Saudi Arabia's pro league is attempting to make itself appear popular and more competitive, I understand the direction they're coming from.

I am having a great feeling that after this transfer season, UEFA will find a way to regulate Saudi Arabia pro league even if it's not in their jurisdiction. How sure are we that FIFA financial rule applies to SPL?
If nothing is done about this trend, any player older than 30 may be leaving the European clubs to retire in Arab. Who knows if the government is sponsoring these clubs?

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 02, 2023, 03:16:06 PM

According to the media Manchester United wants Hojlund from Atalanta and they did a bid for 35m €.
There is no way Atalanta will accept the offer, according to previous rumors they were asking 60m for him.
He only has 20 years, they will need someone crazy and with a lot of money if they really want that bid.

From what I've read, the price has gone up. "Man Utd prepared to sign Ramus Hojlund for £51.5m" news source
I think Atalanta could accept this offer. I think Manchester United should sign a much better striker. They saw that it wasn't with Weghorst. But not with young players. They should get someone who has proven themselves. If they take Hojlund, will they be able to play straight to the starting 11? How many goals can he score there? There is also the adaptation process. In my opinion, this is a risky transfer.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 02, 2023, 02:54:38 PM

The effect of Saudi teams in the market was not something small, they spend huge amounts of money to hire the players they want, and since many other teams and players are not expecting to see this amount of money they ask for higher offers and this changed the market situation, which is hard for many other teams with a bad financial situation.

Other transfer windows are very different from this one; we have substantial bids coming in from the Saudi league, which has fully dominated the market. In the transfer window, we have beneficial as well as detrimental bids. This season, Saudi Arabia clubs have favorably influenced the football market by giving massive bids for players, and these players are tempted to take the offer without hesitation. Saudi Arabia's pro league is attempting to make itself appear popular and more competitive, I understand the direction they're coming from.

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Quote from: W Jr. on July 02, 2023, 03:19:29 PM

In fact, the reason why people are angry with the Saudis is because of the high amount of money they pay. They are making contracts that any European club will never be able to pay, and players are now aiming to play for any team in the Saudi Arabian league. Of course, after so many star players, the Saudi Arabian league has turned into a magnificent arena. it will be fun to watch.

So far I haven't spent much time watching Arab Pro League matches, but when a lot of top European players migrate there, then maybe my interest will increase. It's the same when Ligue 1 brought in a lot of top European players, my interest in watching their games started to increase.

I heard that De Gea has the possibility to join one of the teams in the Arab Pro League. I'm not sure if the news is justified, but De Gea's situation with Manchester United is not good since Onana has been linked as Manchester United's priority signing as first-choice goalkeeper next season.

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Quote from: cytpoway121 on July 02, 2023, 03:11:57 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 02, 2023, 02:54:38 PM

The effect of Saudi teams in the market was not something small, they spend huge amounts of money to hire the players they want, and since many other teams and players are not expecting to see this amount of money they ask for higher offers and this changed the market situation, which is hard for many other teams with a bad financial situation.

I think the effects of the Saudi teams are not that bad as being portrayed by the media; this is something that happens in every transfer window. At some point it was PSG buying every best gems in Europe to France, at some point it was Real Madrid splashing the cash to get Galaticos, Even Manchester City had their fair share; splashing lots of money on players in the market transfer, and Barcelona is not left out too. Now it is time to the Saudi league to flex the wealth of their football team, get the necessary viewers and fame too.

In fact, the reason why people are angry with the Saudis is because of the high amount of money they pay. They are making contracts that any European club will never be able to pay, and players are now aiming to play for any team in the Saudi Arabian league. Of course, after so many star players, the Saudi Arabian league has turned into a magnificent arena. it will be fun to watch.

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According to the media Manchester United wants Hojlund from Atalanta and they did a bid for 35m €.

There is no way Atalanta will accept the offer, according to previous rumors they were asking 60m for him.

He only has 20 years, they will need someone crazy and with a lot of money if they really want that bid.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 02, 2023, 02:54:38 PM

The effect of Saudi teams in the market was not something small, they spend huge amounts of money to hire the players they want, and since many other teams and players are not expecting to see this amount of money they ask for higher offers and this changed the market situation, which is hard for many other teams with a bad financial situation.

I think the effects of the Saudi teams are not that bad as being portrayed by the media; this is something that happens in every transfer window. At some point it was PSG buying every best gems in Europe to France, at some point it was Real Madrid splashing the cash to get Galaticos, Even Manchester City had their fair share; splashing lots of money on players in the market transfer, and Barcelona is not left out too. Now it is time to the Saudi league to flex the wealth of their football team, get the necessary viewers and fame too.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on July 02, 2023, 10:48:02 AM

I don't really know if that bonus that Mbappe would receive is really that big of a problem for Paris Saint Germain. In the end they are owned by a sheikh and everything gets paid by him anyway so that bonus payment should not be that big of a problem. I also don't think that Mbappe's main reason why he wants to stay another year at PSG is that bonus. As far as i know he is earning 72 Million € per season at PSG at the moment which makes him the best paid footballer in Europe by far. So he does not really need that additional money i would guess.
I think that Mbappe will stay another year because his primary target, Real Madrid can not buy him in this summer because they have already bought Bellingham and Real has pretty high debts already. So they need to wait until the end of the coming season to sign Mbappe.

The problem is not on PSG, of course they are able to pay all salaries + bonuses what I mean is Mbappe does not want to lose the bonus, he will get a bonus of around 90 million if he completes his contract while he did not want to activate the contract extension for the next 12 months (2025) this means he really wants to move to another club. If you are PSG owner what will you do? let him go for free or release it to another club at a high price. Don't forget this related to business, they can make decisions if there is no other choice.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on July 02, 2023, 01:00:43 PM

Are things getting out of hands with the way the Saudi side are recruiting players from all parts of Europe, I feel with time we won't be getting enough super stars in the UCL, UEL even the conference league and to top it all, in all domestic leagues. Last time this kind of thing happened was China league now we're seeing Saudi league trying to improve their league by getting the likes of Ronaldo and some other footballers, you name them.
Won't be surprised if Fabrizio announce that Mbappe has decided to join on of the clubs @ Saudi and negotiations are on going. This is the busiest transfer window so far, players are coming and going out.

The effect of Saudi teams in the market was not something small, they spend huge amounts of money to hire the players they want, and since many other teams and players are not expecting to see this amount of money they ask for higher offers and this changed the market situation, which is hard for many other teams with a bad financial situation.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on July 02, 2023, 01:00:43 PM

Are things getting out of hands with the way the Saudi side are recruiting players from all parts of Europe, I feel with time we won't be getting enough super stars in the UCL, UEL even the conference league and to top it all, in all domestic leagues. Last time this kind of thing happened was China league now we're seeing Saudi league trying to improve their league by getting the likes of Ronaldo and some other footballers, you name them.
Won't be surprised if Fabrizio announce that Mbappe has decided to join on of the clubs @ Saudi and negotiations are on going. This is the busiest transfer window so far, players are coming and going out.

I think your worries are unwarranted and exaggerated quite a lot. It won't be like that with Mbappe for sure, everyone knows where he wants to play, he might even be able to move to Real this summer (small chance but it's there), other big name players maybe, but not all. If you get all the star players in this league, all the teams will be fully staffed with them, even so there will be a huge number of stars left in Europe. And not everyone wants to play in this league

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Quote from: Asiska02 on July 02, 2023, 05:36:58 AM

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Pulisic is already on the list of Olympique Lion as a potential transfer target and I guess nobody will be surprised when I tell you that Lyon is also owned by an investor from the US. Usually I think Pulisic wouldn't go to a club like Lyon as he probably has offers that are much better than that in terms of the quality of the team, but that US investor most likely pays a tempting salary and a vision for Olympique Lyon that might be convincing enough to get players like Pulisic.

Pulisic is a great player and Olympique Lyon having him on their side wil be a boost to the team. He’s a very good player but his career at Chelsea was not encouraging, many expectations from him to play or replace Hazard method of football but all to no avail. It’s better he joins a new team where he’ll get more playing time and at least show some improvement in his career now.

He couldn't get off the ground as much as he wanted to and as much as it was expected from him, but considering his talent I thought he is going to make it in Chelsea. I liked him as a player when he was still playing for Dortmund because he had this speed and also was brave enough to never shy away from 1 vs. 1 situations in the game. He took the dribblings and he was quick and agile. But when you look at Hazard when he peaked and then at Pulisic, there is still a significant gap between them. Hazard was brilliant when he had his best days.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 02, 2023, 01:59:01 PM

...but I was expecting to see more respect from Manchester United for this player.

When a player is not performing at his best the team has no option but to replace him, this is not a question of respect at this point.
De Gea's decline has been a thing for several years with bouts of stellar performances sandwiched between horrendous errors which has cost the team.

The saga with updated contracts after the players has agreed to them could have been avoided but he has gotten lots of respect from the team as it is.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 02, 2023, 01:59:01 PM

De Gea is an important player for Manchester United

Was an important player and he won basically nothing in the past 5 years.

Onana is such a good young goalkeeper and a plus of it is that Ten Hag already coached him back on Ajax.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 02, 2023, 01:59:01 PM

De Gea is an important player for Manchester United and he earned many achievements with this team, however, as De Gea is getting older his performance is decreasing over time but I was expecting to see more respect from Manchester United for this player.
Since Ten Hag is more interested in hiring Onana. I think in the next season we are going to see Onana playing for this team.

Rumor has it that Ten Hag got his eye on another Goalkeeper because Onana was too expensive. and United are no longer interested in negotiating if Inter doesn't want to lower their price.
due to De Gea's declining performance, Ten Hag is now anticipating replacing him early. Even though last season De Gea still got many opportunities to play, Ten Hag doesn't want to take risks for a more competitive next season. De Gea should have been replaced.

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Quote from: snipie on July 02, 2023, 07:50:32 AM

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There are rumors that De Gea has previously agreed to a contract extension with a salary cut, but Man United was reluctant to sign the contract and provided a revised contract extension with a more significant pay cut clause. I think it was the significant salary reduction (revised contract) that caused De Gea to choose to leave Man United.

Losing De Gea could be a big problem if Man United cannot find a suitable replacement for his position. Besides Onana, Man United also seems to be interested in Justin Bijlow, goalkeeper of Feyenoord.

De Gea performance dropped and he was responsible for the loss of many games in the previous season along with Harry Maguire. I wouldn't call it a big loss since they could find a better goalkeeper elsewhere.

De Gea is an important player for Manchester United and he earned many achievements with this team, however, as De Gea is getting older his performance is decreasing over time but I was expecting to see more respect from Manchester United for this player.
Since Ten Hag is more interested in hiring Onana. I think in the next season we are going to see Onana playing for this team.

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Quote from: mamesso on July 02, 2023, 12:50:51 PM

Of course Arsenal have high hopes for him, this time Arsenal are trying to make a big bet on Kai Havertz, they hope that his arrival can provide great benefits for the team. Arteta will certainly support Kai Havertz to become one of the important players in his squad, but if other players are not friendly with the salary Kai Havertz receives it will cause new problems in the Arsenal squad.

Before a player agrees to join a club, there is a negotiation process involved and if the player has a manager that can get him a good deal, they get a good deal. Other players should not concentrate on what other players in the team earn but should be more focused on improving their quality and their importance to the team, so that they can negotiate a better deal at their contract renewal or move to another club that will be able to pay them the amount they wish to earn.

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