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Ruben Neves' signing for Al-Hilal is one of the most interesting deals I have seen lately. Because he is still 26 years old and this is normally a quite early age for a European decent player to sign for an Arabian team. But Al-Hilal have newly signed him for €55m transfer fee. I haven't seen the contract details but it must be tempting for Neves for sure.

Still I guess this transferring players at early age thing would be seen for only average level of players. I wouldn't expect any top player at young age to say yes to such teams. Because it wouldn't be good for their career no matter how much money they are offered.

Playing competitive for the Champions League title is the dream for most of such players in the end.

Some players may value their playing time and the money that comes with signing and playing football for such teams more than others.

If every player who joins the Saudi Arabia league does so for the sake of money rather than for the love of the game, the league will be unable to raise its standing among other leagues in the long run. If they want to become a globally competitive league, they must pay attention to potential young players when scouting for good players to play in their league.

I don't see anything wrong with Ruben Neves joining Al-Hilal; perhaps he'll get more playing time and, as a result, improve his career there. People go where they are valued and where they can make sufficient income before retiring. Don't be surprised; there must be a tangible reason for his action.
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Through the Insta story, Barcelona officially announced its new player who was successfully brought in from Manchester City on a free agent status, namely Ilkay Gundogan. This is a good recruitment for Barcelona to strengthen its squad in various competitions starting next season and at this time there is still no clear information regarding what number Gundogan will wear. For Gundogan, the atmosphere at Camp Nou is certainly different from that at the Etihad stadium, it is clear that he will start a new challenge with Barcelona. After winning the treble winner with Manchester City, of course Gundogan wanted to try new things and he decided the right choice by joining Barcelona.
The transfer of Ilkay Gundogan to Barcelona certainly broadens their strategic options in midfield. However, I can't help but express some concerns about the terms of the contract. Fabrizio Romano disclosed that the agreement includes a duration up to 2025 and a staggering release clause of 400 million euros. Given that Gundogan is already 32 years old, I find the figures somewhat baffling. Barcelona's economic situation is not the most stable, and such an inflated clause for Gundogan appears impractical. Nevertheless, I hope he will deliver optimum performances for Barcelona in the coming seasons.
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Barcelona can't sign Neymar because of his salary/wages and the transfer fee that PSG are going to ask for. It is obvious that PSG are very willing to sell Neymar, but they are going to sell him for the right amount, they are not going to make it cheap so that he can leave easily, remember that when PSG signed him it was for a world record transfer fee, worth over £200m, so they have to sell him for a good amount. Neymar is also not going to take a pay cut, coupled with FFP issues regarding Barcelona, all of these makes it impossible for them to sign him. There's rumors that Manchester United might be interested, now they are the sort of club that can afford to buy Neymar from PSG.
Not only about the salary, Barcelona actually doesn't need new wingers because they already have 4 wingers. The existing wingers are also much younger than Neymar and have good quality as well. So, what for a new winger? It just wastes money, Barcelona isn't a typical club that want to spend money for unnecessary players. Moreover, they just have a financial problem, they will be more careful to spend money. If they have money, I assume they prefer signing a striker than signing a winger like Neymar.

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Mbappe's case become even more complicated as per some news that were coming from PSG. Even it's also involving mbappe's mother as reported by marca
https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2023/06/23/6495b025ca4741095b8b45ce.html



It seems like that's become the main reason why there are rumors if PSG wants 250m for him. I don't even think PSG wanna give him that big amount of money.
Mbappe is now threatening PSG. PSG is in a big lose if PSG was not selling mbappe right now caused by he will be leaving from the club with a free agent but at the same time PSG must have paid very big compensation for him.

That makes me feel curious about what's agreements between mbappe and PSG in the past.

For a player like Mbappe, there are many teams that want to hire him and Real Marid is one of them, they are waiting for a chance when he is a free player or when he can accept offers from other teams. PSG is making mistakes when they don't give Mbappe enough respect to keep him in the team, however, they can't also force any play to stay for another season.
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Chelsea are experiencing a massive exodus of players. Kalidou Koulibaly has officially become the property of Al-Ahly and Kante belongs to Al-Ittihad. And then the two Blues players will also follow in the footsteps of their compatriots, Ziyech and Mendy will most likely also anchor in Arab lands. The departure of a number of important players in the Chelsea squad will certainly cause a variety of new problems. But Todd Boehly must have thought carefully and he also wants to trim his squad because he made a big transfer in the last transfer market.

Chelsea under Pochettino will certainly start a new chapter, he will be inherited by a potential young squad and of course Boehly will have high hopes for them to be able to restore the glory of the Blues.

Since last season, Chelsea has received a lot of attention because of the behavior of its owner Todd Boehly.

Todd Boehly spent more than 600 million pounds to purchase players in the transfer market last winter. expenditure after expenditure made by Todd Boehly at Chelsea came under scrutiny from UEFA regarding potential violations of FFP or Financial Fairplay regulations. that is why, to prevent Chelsea from violating FFP regulations, management must carry out financial equalization by selling several players before the 30th of the 2023 betting.

The reason, Chelsea has to sell many players before 30th June 2023 is because it still uses the same financial recording system as most football clubs world. In essence, another factor that requires Chelsea to sell many players before June 30 2023 is the losses that have reached a fantastic amount. therefore, Chelsea is required to release many players in order to balance the club's balance sheet in the 2023/2024 season. so it's very natural, if Chelsea do it.
Now, several players have left. So Pochettino's next task is to develop plans and strategies for his new squad. setting up some of the most ideal systems, and achieving chemistry between coaches and players ahead of pre-season matches.
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If there is a way he can reduce his salary significantly and PSG request for a low fee for Neymar then he can be signed.
There are people in Barcelona that want him back and there are those who do not. Neymar himself likes the idea of returning to Barca but its a very difficult thing to happen.
Barcelona can't sign Neymar because of his salary/wages and the transfer fee that PSG are going to ask for. It is obvious that PSG are very willing to sell Neymar, but they are going to sell him for the right amount, they are not going to make it cheap so that he can leave easily, remember that when PSG signed him it was for a world record transfer fee, worth over £200m, so they have to sell him for a good amount. Neymar is also not going to take a pay cut, coupled with FFP issues regarding Barcelona, all of these makes it impossible for them to sign him. There's rumors that Manchester United might be interested, now they are the sort of club that can afford to buy Neymar from PSG.
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The fact that Modric decided to turn down an offer that size (assuming biggest ever means maybe like 200 million a year) was a stupid mistake. Think about it, Real already has a good young midfield right now, which means that Modric is less needed, and sure he is still good but he won't be getting that back again. So if he left, and played at SA league, Real would have still been fine, it is not like they need Modric to win otherwise they won't win situation. That is why if he accepted, both Real would have been fine, and he would have been rich.

I am not sure if he will get the same offer next season, there will probably some financial drop there. If it is a political reason, like cultural unfit situation, then I would understand, that's another thing than football reasons.
Modric will also have somehow a mentor role, isn't it? I know Madrid doesn't usually do that and they don't give contract to player who will not perform at the highest level. I admire and respect Modric very much. He is indeed a great player. But he has never been a xavi or iniesta if we are to speak realistically. The only thing he is better than xavi-iniesta is that he won the undeserved awards in the years when xavi retired and iniesta transferred to the japan league to relax, and on top of that, he became the ucl champion last year with a single season prime period. Modric was selected once, while xavi was named the best playmaker of the year four times, iniesta twice and even de bruyne twice. again, iniesta was selected for the 11 of the year nine times, modric was selected six times, while iniesta was selected for the uefa team of the year six times, modric was selected three times. Nevertheless, I wish he had a country cup in his career before he retires from football. He hasn't quit yet, but he's old enough to be 37 and not going to win probably. I don't know how many more years he will have active in football from now on. A football legend who lived the last years of his career and did not go to Saudi Arabia without selling his football for money.

I doubt that Real Madrid would have given him another year of contract if they did not assume he would play most of the time. I know you didn't say that, but when you bring up the mentor role I think yes, but not because he is sitting on the bench. Also who knows what Real Madrid plans are for Modric in the distant future. He is a down to earth person with a very solid character and an amazing career who actually got a world soccer player title to his name during the reign of Messi and Ronaldo. I can see how they are planning on keeping him close to the club or even involved in the operative business one day.
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I knew there would be a lot of interest in Gundongan but he never had his eye on his only goal to go to Barcelona and play there.
After they reached an agreement, Barcelona immediately released a very crazy clause of 400 million, of course with this Barcelona did not want other teams to snatch it in the middle of the season.
I understand that now Barcelona will always use this tactic with high and almost unrealistic payoffs for their players, because it is clear that even at its peak Gundogan will not be worth 400 million and now without the permission of the club he can not move anywhere until 2025.
It's the same with Gavi who has the highest clause at Barcelona because it's very natural that he is still 18 years old but his performance is very extraordinary so with clause 1B it is still very realistic in my opinion.
Gundongan is now 32 years old, a slightly old age with a contract until 2025, so it will end at 34, so his performance will not be good anymore, I don't know if he can defend well or not, what is clear is that the clause is too high.

On the one hand it is a very wise decision so that no one could poach the player, as in the situation with Mbappe, when a year before the end of his contract he no longer wants to play for PSG and now he will just work to keep his form.
But if all the clubs will do so, the transfer opportunities will be greatly narrowed, because now the player essentially signing a contract will be obliged to work it off or go wherever the club tells him to go. 
I know it's a wise decision but it would be more right on a younger player, I don't know about Mbappe's clause is it higher than Gundongan? Now there are more and more rumors that this season he will leave soon on the one hand PSG does not want him to be a free player next season so PSG must get money from selling Mbappe, there is still no clarity.
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The fact that Modric decided to turn down an offer that size (assuming biggest ever means maybe like 200 million a year) was a stupid mistake. Think about it, Real already has a good young midfield right now, which means that Modric is less needed, and sure he is still good but he won't be getting that back again. So if he left, and played at SA league, Real would have still been fine, it is not like they need Modric to win otherwise they won't win situation. That is why if he accepted, both Real would have been fine, and he would have been rich.

I am not sure if he will get the same offer next season, there will probably some financial drop there. If it is a political reason, like cultural unfit situation, then I would understand, that's another thing than football reasons.
Modric will also have somehow a mentor role, isn't it? I know Madrid doesn't usually do that and they don't give contract to player who will not perform at the highest level. I admire and respect Modric very much. He is indeed a great player. But he has never been a xavi or iniesta if we are to speak realistically. The only thing he is better than xavi-iniesta is that he won the undeserved awards in the years when xavi retired and iniesta transferred to the japan league to relax, and on top of that, he became the ucl champion last year with a single season prime period. Modric was selected once, while xavi was named the best playmaker of the year four times, iniesta twice and even de bruyne twice. again, iniesta was selected for the 11 of the year nine times, modric was selected six times, while iniesta was selected for the uefa team of the year six times, modric was selected three times. Nevertheless, I wish he had a country cup in his career before he retires from football. He hasn't quit yet, but he's old enough to be 37 and not going to win probably. I don't know how many more years he will have active in football from now on. A football legend who lived the last years of his career and did not go to Saudi Arabia without selling his football for money.
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According to transfermarkt there are two teams that want to hire Neymar for the next season and there is a high chance for him to leave PSG for Arabian teams because for players at this age and in this situation there won't be many offers from top-level teams. There is a chance for Neymar to return to Barcelona but I don't think Barcelona will accept hiring a player like Neymar to pay his high amount of salary.
That's why I'm waiting to see him playing for Arabian teams like Al Hilal

Barcelona signing Neymar wont be such a bad thing. He is still very good and still among the best in his position. The only problem Neymar has are his constant long term injuries. If he can stay fit for a whole season you'll see that very few players are better than him. He was among the best in form players before he got injured.
If there is a way he can reduce his salary significantly and PSG request for a low fee for Neymar then he can be signed.
There are people in Barcelona that want him back and there are those who do not. Neymar himself likes the idea of returning to Barca but its a very difficult thing to happen.
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The fact that Modric decided to turn down an offer that size (assuming biggest ever means maybe like 200 million a year) was a stupid mistake. Think about it, Real already has a good young midfield right now, which means that Modric is less needed, and sure he is still good but he won't be getting that back again. So if he left, and played at SA league, Real would have still been fine, it is not like they need Modric to win otherwise they won't win situation. That is why if he accepted, both Real would have been fine, and he would have been rich.

I am not sure if he will get the same offer next season, there will probably some financial drop there. If it is a political reason, like cultural unfit situation, then I would understand, that's another thing than football reasons.

No one knows for sure what is the reason Modric refused the offer all we know he wants to retire with Madrid and yeah there is nothing wrong with that
He knew that Madrid had prepared a replacement like Jude Bellingham but the fact is he still wants to stay for one more season so at least for now money is not a priority for him although some people say it's silly. Or maybe he has other plans to be part of Madrid even though he has retired like what Zidane did? who knows.
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The fact that Modric decided to turn down an offer that size (assuming biggest ever means maybe like 200 million a year) was a stupid mistake. Think about it, Real already has a good young midfield right now, which means that Modric is less needed, and sure he is still good but he won't be getting that back again. So if he left, and played at SA league, Real would have still been fine, it is not like they need Modric to win otherwise they won't win situation. That is why if he accepted, both Real would have been fine, and he would have been rich.

I am not sure if he will get the same offer next season, there will probably some financial drop there. If it is a political reason, like cultural unfit situation, then I would understand, that's another thing than football reasons.

I do not think it was a big mistake for Modric to reject the big offer from Saudi Arabia. Footballers are also humans, and my best bet is that Modric refused the offer for family. Another year in Europe, then a move to MLS would work fine for Modric i believe. In the other hand, Madrid gets a talisman to guide their youngpins in midfield. Recall that Kroos also extended for another year
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Ruben Neves' signing for Al-Hilal is one of the most interesting deals I have seen lately. Because he is still 26 years old and this is normally a quite early age for a European decent player to sign for an Arabian team. But Al-Hilal have newly signed him for €55m transfer fee. I haven't seen the contract details but it must be tempting for Neves for sure.

Still I guess this transferring players at early age thing would be seen for only average level of players. I wouldn't expect any top player at young age to say yes to such teams. Because it wouldn't be good for their career no matter how much money they are offered.

Playing competitive for the Champions League title is the dream for most of such players in the end.

My biggest problem with these types of transfers is that after such transfers, the player almost stops improving. At least he does not improve as well as he could have if he played in a big European club. I hope we don’t see something similar like that with Ruben Neves. I was really surprised to see him go to a Saudi club at only 26 years of age. That is really early. He could have gone to other European clubs.

I understand that they are professional footballers after all, and all they are doing is playing for Money. But with a big European club, he had a better chance to get better as a player and earn more money in the future.
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Ruben Neves' signing for Al-Hilal is one of the most interesting deals I have seen lately. Because he is still 26 years old and this is normally a quite early age for a European decent player to sign for an Arabian team. But Al-Hilal have newly signed him for €55m transfer fee. I haven't seen the contract details but it must be tempting for Neves for sure.

Still I guess this transferring players at early age thing would be seen for only average level of players. I wouldn't expect any top player at young age to say yes to such teams. Because it wouldn't be good for their career no matter how much money they are offered.

Playing competitive for the Champions League title is the dream for most of such players in the end.

This was really not what we expected. Young football players dream bigger, but when the money is big, it becomes interesting. How can your star shine in the teams here?
I think it can be done in the last years of your career, but it doesn't make sense to play in these teams at a young age Smiley
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It's strange that Manchester City couldn't keep such a player, especially since Guardiola himself said that Gundogan is important for the team.
Maybe it's really not about the money and Gundogan decided to take a chance and fulfill his dream to play for Barcelona.
Many big players have either Barcelona or Real Madrid as their dream team and will always value an opportunity to play in these clubs if an opportunity presents itself. For Gundogan, he has always loved Barcelona and since he has already been successful in Manchester City more than he could have imagined, this is a good time to play in Barcelona. Manchester City tried to keep him, and Arsenal were even interested in signing him, but amongst all these interest, he still moved to Barcelona on a free transfer. That can purely be out of love. He is a huge benefit to Barcelona next season even in the champions league and every other competition they play. Barcelona striker and top scorer in the La Liga last season Lewandoski will benefit a lot from Gundogan.
I knew there would be a lot of interest in Gundongan but he never had his eye on his only goal to go to Barcelona and play there.
After they reached an agreement, Barcelona immediately released a very crazy clause of 400 million, of course with this Barcelona did not want other teams to snatch it in the middle of the season.
I understand that now Barcelona will always use this tactic with high and almost unrealistic payoffs for their players, because it is clear that even at its peak Gundogan will not be worth 400 million and now without the permission of the club he can not move anywhere until 2025.

On the one hand it is a very wise decision so that no one could poach the player, as in the situation with Mbappe, when a year before the end of his contract he no longer wants to play for PSG and now he will just work to keep his form.
But if all the clubs will do so, the transfer opportunities will be greatly narrowed, because now the player essentially signing a contract will be obliged to work it off or go wherever the club tells him to go. 
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Through the Insta story, Barcelona officially announced its new player who was successfully brought in from Manchester City on a free agent status, namely Ilkay Gundogan. This is a good recruitment for Barcelona to strengthen its squad in various competitions starting next season and at this time there is still no clear information regarding what number Gundogan will wear. For Gundogan, the atmosphere at Camp Nou is certainly different from that at the Etihad stadium, it is clear that he will start a new challenge with Barcelona. After winning the treble winner with Manchester City, of course Gundogan wanted to try new things and he decided the right choice by joining Barcelona.
Ilkay Gundongan is really want to become a challenger than just join a strong club which is can secure many trophies, respect for him. Barcelona is one of strong club in La Liga, but sometime their performance are inconsistent, Real Madrid is more consistent and full of star players. Since Xavi always like to use his 4-3-3 strategy and Barcelona only have 3 great midfielders e.g. De Jong, Pedri and Gavi, signing Gundongan is really important to make sure Barcelona's midfielders aren't burn out and tired.

Star players do not determine a club's fate in tournaments, these star players still have to play well to prove their worth. Real have many examples of failed transfers of those star players, so their consistency depends directly on the level of play of those players, not their stardom.
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The fact that Modric decided to turn down an offer that size (assuming biggest ever means maybe like 200 million a year) was a stupid mistake. Think about it, Real already has a good young midfield right now, which means that Modric is less needed, and sure he is still good but he won't be getting that back again. So if he left, and played at SA league, Real would have still been fine, it is not like they need Modric to win otherwise they won't win situation. That is why if he accepted, both Real would have been fine, and he would have been rich.

I am not sure if he will get the same offer next season, there will probably some financial drop there. If it is a political reason, like cultural unfit situation, then I would understand, that's another thing than football reasons.
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Mbappe's case become even more complicated as per some news that were coming from PSG. Even it's also involving mbappe's mother as reported by marca
https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2023/06/23/6495b025ca4741095b8b45ce.html



It seems like that's become the main reason why there are rumors if PSG wants 250m for him. I don't even think PSG wanna give him that big amount of money.
Mbappe is now threatening PSG. PSG is in a big lose if PSG was not selling mbappe right now caused by he will be leaving from the club with a free agent but at the same time PSG must have paid very big compensation for him.

That makes me feel curious about what's agreements between mbappe and PSG in the past.
The worse mistake PSG will be making is letting Kylian Mbappe leave the club for free next year. I am sure they know the consequences of letting him out his contract, they will be losing so much rather than making any profit. It will be highly profitable if they could get Real Madrid to sign him this summer or in January but preferably this summer with them not facing pressure to sell for a lower price.

Consider it this way, it'll be the worst decision for Kylian Mbappe, to see him extend his contract for another four or five years, he already missed the golden opportunity to work for Real Madrid last season, this is another, I'm not sure he'll want to miss out on this one.
Great player who deserves playing for Real Madrid and La Liga.
As for Paris Saint Germans, they've had so many superstars in the past, Kylian Mbappe won't ne yhe last of them best thing to do right now is to let him go and work with the player's you have. It's difficult to tie a player down when you want to see him leave the club.
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According to a bbcsport report Chelsea Kalidou Koulibaly had signed for a Saudi Arabian club Al-Hilal at fee reportedly worth £20m, recall Kalidou Koulibaly was signed by the Blues from Napoli last July having established himself as one of the best defender in Europe with the hope of playing for the next five season for the club, unfortunately that hope was dashed by his club abysmal performance in the league and UCL, he is the second Chelsea player heading to Saudi Pro league following the departure of Kante to Al-Ittihad and some Chelsea players like Hakim Ziyech and Mendy are also linked with a move to the Saudi Pro league in a bid by Chelsea to trim their squad for Pochettino to rebuild the team.
It's just matter of time until ziyech and mendy will have been reaching agreements with arabian clubs. The progress from mendy and ziyech are really positive at this moment. These players will be agreed to sign contracts with new clubs to play in saudi pro league.
Massive transfer by chelsea to the arabian clubs has been truggering so many questions to come. Glad to see that arabian clubs have been making chelsea's work to be much easier.
Chelsea must have removed a lot of players from the club. I hope that official announcement for ziyech and mendy will come soon.
Right now, by looking at some of the news that has happened to these two players, it's actually just waiting for official news from the club, it seems because the current agreement has been made and is in the process of being finalized, so with this, they are definitely going to the Arab League following Kante and Koulibally. who went first.
I think in the next few days we will also see that they have officially become players from Al-Ahli and Al-Nassr.
Now there is no longer any reason for Chelsea to hold this player because they also seem to want to reduce players who are already quite inflated now due to previous unreasonable spending.
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When PSG offered Mbappe that contract, they obviously knew what salary they would pay him and considered it normal for his services. In principle, if he works for another year and then leaves (even if for free), PSG will not be in the red, as they will get what they expected and for which they signed the contract. I am sure that Mbappe is a professional and he will earn 100% of his salary, another thing is that everyone understands that there is a bargaining going on now, since Mbappe will still leave PSG this summer with a 99.99% probability.

Have a look at this . This is maximum greed at its best. I can't blame him for anything and I don't even want to because he is the best player in the world or one of them and he can dictate the conditions for a transfer, but now he wants the €150 m from PSG that he would have earned next season when he leaves club now. I am confused because I have no idea whether I comprehend what's going on, but the trick he wants to play here is that PSG would be slightly better off giving him the money and selling him this year than letting him go for free and paying him the €150 m.

Yes, I saw it. From Mbappe's side, the math is clear: he has a guaranteed 150m from PSG next year if he stays + a year later he becomes a free agent and can get a signing bonus of, say, 100m from any club. Thus, now he is ready to change his status (a player with an expiring contract) only if it will be no less profitable than 250 million (150 from PSG and 100 from Real - well, or with some kind of discount from this amount, since he saves a year). It's just logical.
Yes, from the outside it looks like greed and impudence, but from a business point of view, this is 100% correct.

It depends... From a business point of view, yes it is 100% correct regarding the legitimacy of his requirements. But is it the right choice or course of action for his future career? This is where it becomes interesting because in reality we know that he doesn't want to stay, but he wants to leave and kick off his way to become a Real Madrid legend. Both clubs know that as well. If PSG does not move an inch from their position, will Mbappe really stick to the contract, take the money and let two more years of his career go up in dust? I am even skeptical now that I thought this through whether this would make sense from a business point of view over the whole course of his career plus the time after the career. If Michael Jordan stayed with some meaningless basketball club only because of money, he wouldn't be a multi-billionaire today. Mbappe should take into account more than just the money he can make within the next two years. An Mbappe in Real Madrid could become a world soccer player multiple times and that could increase his income manyfold for a long time.
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