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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 08, 2024, 09:41:33 AM

There is no possible way that Neymar worths anything to anyone anymore. That time has gone and he is absolutely retired at this point and he is not a player you want on your team unless you are paying him for marketing. That is what Al Hilal did, these guys are winning every game without him anyways, so there is absolutely no reason to get him based on how they are doing, the only reason why they hired him for that much money was for marketing and nothing more.

I believe it was even a good thing that he didn't play, very sad that any player would be injured of course, I never want to see anyone injured because it's a health issue, but the reality is that without him they were even better and now they are a bit worse. After this, he will be either retired, or keep being unimportant.

With Neymar's current condition, not many European clubs are interested in working with him. I think the prolonged injury factor has ruined his career and I see that after achieving success in the world of football, he is unable to maintain his fitness because he cannot control his lifestyle. This situation at least makes Al Hilal lose even though he gets a plus point from the club's marketing. On the other hand, the salary that must be paid to the player is too high. Without him, Al Hilal still dominates the league. I heard rumors that in the second half of this season, Al Hilal did not register his name in the SFL. Most likely Neymar will leave in January or mid-2025 and the Santos club is interested in bringing the player home and he gave the green light. We know he started his professional career there.

source: Neymar gives 'green light' to make dream return to former club as Brazilian star opens talks with Al-Hilal over January exit

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Quote from: Lannakosa on November 08, 2024, 07:55:12 AM

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Juventus have wanted to sell Vlahovic for a long time, they wanted to do it last year and in the off-season, but apparently they are asking a high price and therefore cannot find a buyer. Vlahovic's problem is that he is unstable, at the beginning of the season he played very well and scored, but later there were matches without goals, Juventus needs a more scoring forward, apparently Motta will want to achieve this in the winter transfer window.

I don't follow Vlahovic's progress with Juventus, but he is often associated with big teams, especially PSG, Arsenal and even Manchester United in the past seasons. What we know from newspapers or famous journalists, this player is priced at a high price which in the end not many clubs are willing to bring him in. considering his current age, Dusan Vlahovic should start in development mode as a more established and mature player. but looking at his current statistics, he is not so brilliant with Juventus in his 11 matches. or, it could be that Vlahovic cannot develop if he continues with Juventus. actually I'm not sure about what I said, because I don't follow Serie A. but if Juventus will release him in the winter window, it seems like several big clubs will consider him as a striker option in their squad. seeing Arsenal still struggling without a pure striker, as well as PSG who also need a reliable front striker. plus, considering seeing him in several European matches, I'm sure this Serbian player can develop and be sharper if supported by qualified colleagues.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on November 08, 2024, 12:24:19 PM

Quote from: el kaka22 on November 08, 2024, 09:41:33 AM

I believe it was even a good thing that he didn't play, very sad that any player would be injured of course, I never want to see anyone injured because it's a health issue, but the reality is that without him they were even better and now they are a bit worse. After this, he will be either retired, or keep being unimportant.

Oh, god! what a waste of talent. Neymar is still 32 years, has not been playing for so long, after he made his comeback, then he suffers a new blow to throw him off the pitch for 4 - 6 weeks. I think he needs to realize his condition and take retirement as one of his option. But, wait!, he's gonna miss a very big salary he received from Al Hilal. I don't think he will take either of your options. He likes to fleecing his club. Cheesy

Al hilal's contract is too good to be wasted. There's no team would pay 390 million for a washed up player like him.

I am wondering when Al Hilal will realize that there is no point in them having Neymar because it is indeed a waste of talent, as well as an expense without any return. Maybe they are already aware of it but they don't care about it because they still have too much money to waste. Grin

I don't think Al Hilal gets much revenue from merchandise related to Neymar either because I think he already losing his sparkle and popularity.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 08, 2024, 09:41:33 AM

I believe it was even a good thing that he didn't play, very sad that any player would be injured of course, I never want to see anyone injured because it's a health issue, but the reality is that without him they were even better and now they are a bit worse. After this, he will be either retired, or keep being unimportant.

Oh, god! what a waste of talent. Neymar is still 32 years, has not been playing for so long, after he made his comeback, then he suffers a new blow to throw him off the pitch for 4 - 6 weeks. I think he needs to realize his condition and take retirement as one of his option. But, wait!, he's gonna miss a very big salary he received from Al Hilal. I don't think he will take either of your options. He likes to fleecing his club. Cheesy

Al hilal's contract is too good to be wasted. There's no team would pay 390 million for a washed up player like him.

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For many of us that knew Neymar Jr and his football talents and potentials from his days as a Santos footballer up till this very moment, we're very much aware of how great of a player he is but at the moment, it seems injuries won't allow him to enjoy professional football again. He's a super creative footballer but the constant injuries he's been sustaining recently have limited him from living up to his full potentials. The latest injury he suffered in his first game for Al Hilal for almost a year is another reason why I think he should consider retiring from professional football or maybe go to lower leagues like the Brazilian league where he'll be less expected to be at his best

It seems to me that the injuries were not the cause but the consequence. With his lack of discipline and desire to hang out in clubs, not to miss carnivals and "sister's birthday" injuries were, so to speak, inevitable. If you don't train well, it has consequences. Football was not Neymar's number 1 priority, so everything turned out this way, and I would say that he had quite a good career given his attitude towards football, it could have been much worse.
The Saudis' purchase of Neymar will probably remain the stupidest and most unprofitable waste of money in football for many decades to come Grin

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Quote from: legendbtc on November 08, 2024, 02:02:04 AM

Football is cruel. Just last season Ancelotti was being touted as a talented coach. But now, there are many rumors that Ancelotti's hot seat is shaky.
I think it's great if everyone (both coaches and players) takes responsibility because if we go down together, we go up together. Everyone has to accept criticism, everyone has to accept that the team didn't play well. The team must fix things and defend better because that's the key.
Ancelotti should continue to focus on his work without fear of being sacked. The authorities still have confidence in the coach and no one in the office at Valdebebas has spoken of a request or the possibility of dismissal. The fans should continue to bet on Ancelotti, not try to put pressure on Ancelotti. He is a legendary coach, not the second Erik ten Hag Grin

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No doubt things change suddenly, and we are currently having difficult time for Real Madrid and Ancelotti with in last season both were at the top with their success and performance but now suddenly we have disrespect which are all part of game even still Real Madrid have all weapons which can give them success, and they can overturn this bad performance quickly but as we have noise on media it's creating serious mess-up which can hurt them badly blame game is playing which is not good.

Kylian Mbappé vs Vinícius Jr started which can ended with the end of career for Vini here at the Real Madrid, but it's all too early because we all know things will be back to normal because their current poor run is surely going to end even now La Liga race is going to be not easy for them, but they are capable of fightback as they are one of the best in business.

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Quote from: Obari on November 08, 2024, 09:25:46 AM

Liverpool having close eyes on the Frenchman next summer? Aurelien Tchouameni is a solid midfielder, he knows his roles in the midfield because he's a very defensive played, always tactical and do perform dirty tackles on the pitch. He's exactly what Arne Slot needs at Anfield, screwing his opponents with full confidence. January transfer window is close and we know the club's involved in good transfer this season. We're definitely going to witness a whole lot of busy transfer coming in this summer because these clubs knows the best scouting for their perspective clubs. Football transfer news comes with more promising news than we could expects and it's the best interest of these players scouted to make good decisions for themselves and their football careers.

Real Madrid has problems with their defense and midfield and that is why they have been conceding goals easily this season. For that reason, it seems they won't let Aurelien Tchouameni go just like that unless it is part of their plans, where with the money from the sale they can bring in players who could be a solution to their problems. Real Madrid is reportedly interested with Florian Wirtz, and if for example, Leverkusen is willing to let him go, they would likely ask for a very high transfer fee. So maybe with that condition, Liverpool can get Tchouameni.

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There is no possible way that Neymar worths anything to anyone anymore. That time has gone and he is absolutely retired at this point and he is not a player you want on your team unless you are paying him for marketing. That is what Al Hilal did, these guys are winning every game without him anyways, so there is absolutely no reason to get him based on how they are doing, the only reason why they hired him for that much money was for marketing and nothing more.

I believe it was even a good thing that he didn't play, very sad that any player would be injured of course, I never want to see anyone injured because it's a health issue, but the reality is that without him they were even better and now they are a bit worse. After this, he will be either retired, or keep being unimportant.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 08, 2024, 09:11:00 AM

Liverpool is going for Tchouameni from Real Madrid with a 60m€ bid.
Juventus may go for Johanatn David from Lille but they have competition from Mancehster United Liverpool and Arsenal.

Lewandowski is ok to get a pay cut to be able to stay longer with Barcelona.

Ac Milan wants to keep Reijnders who is in the radar from Manchester City and Spurs, so they are increasing his salary with a new contract.

News reported from BBC.

Liverpool having close eyes on the Frenchman next summer? Aurelien Tchouameni is a solid midfielder, he knows his roles in the midfield because he's a very defensive played, always tactical and do perform dirty tackles on the pitch. He's exactly what Arne Slot needs at Anfield, screwing his opponents with full confidence. January transfer window is close and we know the club's involved in good transfer this season. We're definitely going to witness a whole lot of busy transfer coming in this summer because these clubs knows the best scouting for their perspective clubs. Football transfer news comes with more promising news than we could expects and it's the best interest of these players scouted to make good decisions for themselves and their football careers.

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Liverpool is going for Tchouameni from Real Madrid with a 60m€ bid.
Juventus may go for Johanatn David from Lille but they have competition from Mancehster United Liverpool and Arsenal.

Lewandowski is ok to get a pay cut to be able to stay longer with Barcelona.

Ac Milan wants to keep Reijnders who is in the radar from Manchester City and Spurs, so they are increasing his salary with a new contract.

News reported from BBC.

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Quote from: mamesso on November 08, 2024, 08:26:53 AM

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once again I will say that it will come back to the players themselves, whether they will choose a career or will prefer money and when looking at Vinicius' current age he should be able to prioritize his career over money. It would be a shame if he chose money when his career was good and he was also in one of the best teams in Europe at the moment.
I see something disappointing in the transfer market lately, because the market value has become very messy because of the ambition of a team. Is this good? or is this bad? what is clear is that the market price is now no longer what it used to be and in my opinion that has an impact on competition in the end.

The offer from Al Hilal is very difficult for any player to refuse, Vinicius also began to waver after the offer came. He has to make the right decision for his future, I think the disappointment of not winning the Ballon d'Or is not the only reason for him to leave Real Madrid and European football. He is young and has the ability to be the best, he must overcome the difficult situations he experiences to achieve success in his career, but if he chooses money, then his career will be over.

I don't think he should be disappointed that he wasn't selected to win the ballon d'or because after all it all depends on what he has achieved so far, I think that failure should be a motivation for him now to be even better in the future with madrid, currently there is no other team that has the potential to deliver him to win the ballon d'or besides madrid or other big teams, so indeed if he leaves and chooses Al Hillal as his next team it is the same as he closes the opportunity to get the ballon d'or in the future, Vinicius is still very young and fantastic offers certainly make him start to hesitate at this time, but as you say of course going to a league that is not competitive at a young age will only slow down the development and may also kill his career, so indeed if he wants to continue to develop and become the best of course he must prove it in a more competitive league in Europe today.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 08, 2024, 02:20:04 AM

Quote from: Palakka on November 07, 2024, 09:50:22 AM

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once again I will say that it will come back to the players themselves, whether they will choose a career or will prefer money and when looking at Vinicius' current age he should be able to prioritize his career over money. It would be a shame if he chose money when his career was good and he was also in one of the best teams in Europe at the moment.
I see something disappointing in the transfer market lately, because the market value has become very messy because of the ambition of a team. Is this good? or is this bad? what is clear is that the market price is now no longer what it used to be and in my opinion that has an impact on competition in the end.

The offer from Al Hilal is very difficult for any player to refuse, Vinicius also began to waver after the offer came. He has to make the right decision for his future, I think the disappointment of not winning the Ballon d'Or is not the only reason for him to leave Real Madrid and European football. He is young and has the ability to be the best, he must overcome the difficult situations he experiences to achieve success in his career, but if he chooses money, then his career will be over.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 07, 2024, 06:40:29 PM

The truth is I don't think that Vini would leave Madrid for anything, he had it in him not to allow him to go to the absurd ceremony for the Golden Ball that for me has no kind of credibility or anything, how is it possible that that ceremony is given to a Rodri who for me has never stood out, well, maybe the Barcelona fans do recognize it, in fact the same Spaniards like Casillas spoke and that if they want to give the award to a Spaniard they should do something more credible, the Golden Ball is simply an act of corruption for me at this moment and they don't have the slightest bit of respect, that's my way of thinking, consequently I think that Madrid protected the player in that way, so how is he going to leave?

Seems impossible for Vinicius Jr leaving Real Madrid near future after failure winning Ballon D'Or, he still young and motivate for upcoming year should be the winner by must working hard by winning all trophies not only for club but also he must perform well for Brazil national team. Looking his tweet after Ballon D'Or winning announcement, he will work hard more than x10 as his performance this season and likely around two until three years later will not move to Saudi Pro League team or leaving Real Madrid as most influence club for his career.

Madrid easily for extending Vinicius Jr contract although still longer time expiry but depend with Madrid performed recently have bad trend after losing in domestic league and UEFA Champion League match. This season competition still longer time and Vinicius Jr have opportunity proof his capacity for winning Ballon D'Or for next year.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 08, 2024, 05:34:24 AM

More and more rumors about a possible sell for Vlahovic.
According to the rumors his agent do not want to split the salary of the players in the future years with a renew of his contract.

According to rumors also Zirkzee may leave Manchester united in January.

Zirkzee was a top player with Motta the past year with Bologna.

And if we do 2+2, pure speculatio Vlahovic to Manchester for Zikzee to Juventus?

Juventus have wanted to sell Vlahovic for a long time, they wanted to do it last year and in the off-season, but apparently they are asking a high price and therefore cannot find a buyer. Vlahovic's problem is that he is unstable, at the beginning of the season he played very well and scored, but later there were matches without goals, Juventus needs a more scoring forward, apparently Motta will want to achieve this in the winter transfer window.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 08, 2024, 05:34:24 AM

More and more rumors about a possible sell for Vlahovic.
According to the rumors his agent do not want to split the salary of the players in the future years with a renew of his contract.

According to rumors also Zirkzee may leave Manchester united in January.

Zirkzee was a top player with Motta the past year with Bologna.

And if we do 2+2, pure speculatio Vlahovic to Manchester for Zikzee to Juventus?

Many good things were said of Joshua Zirkzee just before he arrived Manchester United but I actually haven't seen him deliver world class performances since he arrived Old Trafford while for Dusan Vlahovic, he's been Juventus' most prolific player over the last one year so if a swap that'll see both players move to opposite directions happens, then I think Manchester United will benefit more than Juventus.
There's every possibility that Joshua Zirkzee's struggles at Manchester United is caused by the club's playing style so if Juventus manager Thiago Motta thinks he can bring the best out of Dutch striker, then he should try get him by January

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More and more rumors about a possible sell for Vlahovic.
According to the rumors his agent do not want to split the salary of the players in the future years with a renew of his contract.

According to rumors also Zirkzee may leave Manchester united in January.

Zirkzee was a top player with Motta the past year with Bologna.

And if we do 2+2, pure speculatio Vlahovic to Manchester for Zikzee to Juventus?

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Quote from: Palakka on November 07, 2024, 09:50:22 AM

Quote from: hyudien on November 07, 2024, 08:17:20 AM

The offer from the Saudi Arabian club is already very unreasonable and even strange, just to bring in Vinicius they want to show that money there has no value. I mean 300 million Euros is crazy Al Hilal has indirectly destroyed the transfer market with their excessive ambition. But it's up to Vinicius if he gives up in Europe go ahead, whatever trophy he has won with Madrid, remember 300 million Euros has never been offered to any player.

€300 million offer from Al Hillal toVinicius is clearly very tempting and could significantly change his career in the future if he accepts the offer, so far Arab league clubs seem to be too ambitious to bring in star players, so I think the competition for a player recruit will obviously be very tight, So far we have seen that European teams often have to think twice about recruiting star players and this is due to the financial restrictions that bind every clubs in Europe, but what have been my question is, do Arab league clubs also have financial restrictions or not during this time recruiting players?
Because as we know if it seems like they never think about whether the price of the player is expensive or not so far.

once again I will say that it will come back to the players themselves, whether they will choose a career or will prefer money and when looking at Vinicius' current age he should be able to prioritize his career over money. It would be a shame if he chose money when his career was good and he was also in one of the best teams in Europe at the moment.
I see something disappointing in the transfer market lately, because the market value has become very messy because of the ambition of a team. Is this good? or is this bad? what is clear is that the market price is now no longer what it used to be and in my opinion that has an impact on competition in the end.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on November 07, 2024, 04:59:24 PM

Quote from: Helena Yu on November 07, 2024, 06:29:28 AM

What a joke he blame Mbappe for the losses, he should blame Vinicius instead.

The coach should be the one who has the responsibility whenever the team gets bad result. Why we blame players? Huh

If Ancelotti doesn't put Mbappe on the lineup, Mbappe won't make the mistakes. Ancelotti can rotate the players in the main lineup and Ancelotti can change the tactics, too. So, Ancelotti actually has some options to make a better game for Real Madrid team.

Football is cruel. Just last season Ancelotti was being touted as a talented coach. But now, there are many rumors that Ancelotti's hot seat is shaky.
I think it's great if everyone (both coaches and players) takes responsibility because if we go down together, we go up together. Everyone has to accept criticism, everyone has to accept that the team didn't play well. The team must fix things and defend better because that's the key.
Ancelotti should continue to focus on his work without fear of being sacked. The authorities still have confidence in the coach and no one in the office at Valdebebas has spoken of a request or the possibility of dismissal. The fans should continue to bet on Ancelotti, not try to put pressure on Ancelotti. He is a legendary coach, not the second Erik ten Hag Grin

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Quote from: joniboini on November 08, 2024, 01:10:33 AM

Quote from: JeffBrad12 on November 07, 2024, 11:33:12 PM

Mbappe deserved to be blamed. He played like he was not one of world class player, lazy to run, horrible positioning, and many more. He was the one who has very least run in the last week of UCL compared to the so many players from the different club.

I think the graph makes it feel like he does half compared to Salah, while the difference is about 1 KM or so. Not saying it's a good or a bad thing since I do think the strategy affects how much players need to run per 90. Who knows, maybe the coach asked him to do that. Based on historical data it seems like his run per 90 is quite similar[1]. He did output more G/A in the previous years though. It's too soon to say the transfer failed IMO.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/psg/comments/156gjxh/kilometres_ran_per_90_minutes_by_kylian_mbapp%C3%A9/

The graph was only decoration, but the numbers represent anything. 1 KM is a lot when it comes to football running. It's a disgrace when a healthy player under 30 gets out-cooked by Kane and Salah, who are over 30.

Also, look at Bellingham and Vinicius who had even more than 9.5 KM run far above compared to Mbappé. It means they have better work on and off the ball compared to Mbappé.

In conclusion, Mbappe lacks effort to press, build-up, and defence. It's a shame for someone who got 100 millions signing bonus. Not Madrid's mentality.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on November 07, 2024, 11:33:12 PM

Mbappe deserved to be blamed. He played like he was not one of world class player, lazy to run, horrible positioning, and many more. He was the one who has very least run in the last week of UCL compared to the so many players from the different club.

I think the graph makes it feel like he does half compared to Salah, while the difference is about 1 KM or so. Not saying it's a good or a bad thing since I do think the strategy affects how much players need to run per 90. Who knows, maybe the coach asked him to do that. Based on historical data it seems like his run per 90 is quite similar[1]. He did output more G/A in the previous years though. It's too soon to say the transfer failed IMO.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/psg/comments/156gjxh/kilometres_ran_per_90_minutes_by_kylian_mbapp%C3%A9/

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