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Quote from: Helena Yu on November 07, 2024, 06:29:28 AM

What a joke he blame Mbappe for the losses, he should blame Vinicius instead.

The coach should be the one who has the responsibility whenever the team gets bad result. Why we blame players? Huh

If Ancelotti doesn't put Mbappe on the lineup, Mbappe won't make the mistakes. Ancelotti can rotate the players in the main lineup and Ancelotti can change the tactics, too. So, Ancelotti actually has some options to make a better game for Real Madrid team.

Quote from: Helena Yu on November 07, 2024, 06:29:28 AM

It's better to recruit Pep or Klopp, they have many strategy.

No, there is no way that Real Madrid will hire Pep Guardiola. I'm sure Pep also will never consider the offer to manage Real Madrid.
Klopp seems not interested to manage a club in Spanish league. If he wants to manage a team again, he seems to manage a team in Bundesliga.
IMO, if Real Madrid wants to hire a new coach, he seems to choose Zidane or Xabi Alonso. These are the only best options for Real Madrid team, but it won't be easy to persuade them.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 07, 2024, 04:44:37 AM

Quote from: gabbie2010 on November 06, 2024, 04:08:34 PM

I wouldn't blame Vinicius Jr if he decides to move to a Saudi Arabian club, I think one of the reasons is losing the recently concluded Ballon d'Or award which many soccer analyst believe he deserves to be awarded the trophy instead of Rodri, it's obvious Vinicius Jr is very disappointed by that event possibly might have prompted his purported move to Saudi Arabian league, personally I believe he deserve the award based on his record at the club both in the league and UCL, he might not get the opportunity of achieving that target again instead he would rather choose to move away from Europe to sign lucrative contract in Saudi.

Ballon d'Or is not a plausible reason and all I can gather is that when Vini went to the SPL it was obviously for money and nothing more so we don't need to think of any possibilities or scapegoat Ballon d'Or as a reason in this case.

Actually for Vini although in the end it is a bit unfortunate with the rumors now where he refused the extension of the Madrid contract and many rumors about leaving but I don't consider this excessive because I think we all have to accept the decision taken only at least if indeed he wants to leave Madrid then he should look for a club that is more than Madrid not a downgrade by moving to a club that is lower in terms of level because it is indeed a shame if his potential is still very good to go to a place that makes him lose popularity in Europe.

Even though he didn’t win the Ballon d’Or, that doesn’t mean he should risk moving to the Saudi league. Real Madrid supported and backed him during this time. If he moves to Saudi, he may very well be giving up his dream of ever winning the Ballon d’Or. Playing in the Saudi league, while lucrative, lacks the competitive exposure and high-profile matches offered by European leagues. It is basically career suicide. Staying in a top European league ensures he competes at the highest level, which is crucial for award recognition. Moving to Saudi Arabia would drastically reduce Vini’s chances of being regarded among the very best in football history.

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Quote from: imamusma on November 07, 2024, 04:02:00 PM

Logic says the chances of Vinicius moving to the Saudi Pro League are slim, despite the lucrative deal that might will temp the Brazilian star. Vinicius can earn a high salary while staying in Europe, Real Madrid are ready to make him the highest paid player besides Mbappe. Besides, there are a number of other elite European clubs also ready to offer Vinicius a luxury package, this is not the right time to leave Europe. Of course, there are a number of individual awards that will be obtained if Vinicius continues to play in Europe, let alone stay with Real Madrid.

Vinicius staying back at Madrid or moving to other top European clubs will be preferable than moving to the Saudi league. Perhaps, Real Madrid already know his worth in the team so they wouldn't allow him to go to Saudi league instead they might offer to increase his salary. Vinicius is a world class player who stands a better chance of winning the ballon D'Or in the future and he can't achieve that should he move to Saudi league so he will definitely want to remain in Europe and make greater achievements for himself than decide to move to Saudi Arabia simply because of the huge amount they may offer him. What Vinicius needs now is more visibility in football and not by going to a league where his talents will be hidden and forgotten.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on November 07, 2024, 02:16:08 PM

Quote from: gabbie2010 on November 06, 2024, 04:08:34 PM

I wouldn't blame Vinicius Jr if he decides to move to a Saudi Arabian club, I think one of the reasons is losing the recently concluded Ballon d'Or award which many soccer analyst believe he deserves to be awarded the trophy instead of Rodri, it's obvious Vinicius Jr is very disappointed by that event possibly might have prompted his purported move to Saudi Arabian league, personally I believe he deserve the award based on his record at the club both in the league and UCL, he might not get the opportunity of achieving that target again instead he would rather choose to move away from Europe to sign lucrative contract in Saudi.

Vinicius Junior moving to Saudi Arabian club will be a dumb idea from the fact that top teams in Europe are willingly to get him and even give him a wage that's highly reasonable and fair. He is just still young and can do way more especially in his National team in order to win the Ballon d'Or in a way that no one will have no other option, than to say he truly and only deserve this.

Logic says the chances of Vinicius moving to the Saudi Pro League are slim, despite the lucrative deal that might will temp the Brazilian star. Vinicius can earn a high salary while staying in Europe, Real Madrid are ready to make him the highest paid player besides Mbappe. Besides, there are a number of other elite European clubs also ready to offer Vinicius a luxury package, this is not the right time to leave Europe. Of course, there are a number of individual awards that will be obtained if Vinicius continues to play in Europe, let alone stay with Real Madrid.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 07, 2024, 02:27:41 PM

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Neymar has been known as a great player from Brazil with an extraordinary talent for dribbling and performing stunning tricks, his frequent injuries are indeed unfortunate and may have hindered his potential to be truly recognised as one of the Goats of today, the tendency to focus more on statistics and efficiency that is often the basis of the coach so often sacrifices the creativity and flair of individual players over the years, but what happened to Neymar, I think it has nothing to do with the manager or the strategy he applies because so far we know that Neymar is a player who has a long list of injuries in his career, even a few days after he recovered from a long injury last season, he had to re-enter the treatment room due to a torn hamstring muscle, so I think, Al Hillal should release him at this time because he is no longer able to contribute for team, besides that with the history of injuries that Neymar currently has, of course, retirement is the right step he should take.

For many of us that knew Neymar Jr and his football talents and potentials from his days as a Santos footballer up till this very moment, we're very much aware of how great of a player he is but at the moment, it seems injuries won't allow him to enjoy professional football again. He's a super creative footballer but the constant injuries he's been sustaining recently have limited him from living up to his full potentials. The latest injury he suffered in his first game for Al Hilal for almost a year is another reason why I think he should consider retiring from professional football or maybe go to lower leagues like the Brazilian league where he'll be less expected to be at his best

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 07, 2024, 02:27:41 PM

It's sad that Neymar is 32 years old, and you could say he's been retired for a couple of years already. Unfortunately, he was very far from fully realizing his talent. I am 99.9% sure that Al-Hilal will get rid of him, they simply don't need him - without him they are breaking all records and winning everything they can. There is no point in them losing 200 million a year on him without getting anything in return.
According to rumors, he may go to Inter Miami to join his friends from Barcelona or to Santos.

Bringing Neymar in the first place was a big mistake for Al Hilal because from the start he was confirmed to have suffered a series of injuries. There was no positive contribution made by Neymar to the club during his arrival, his purchase was considered a loss. It is unfortunate that his injury became a nightmare at the end of a career that should have been brilliant. Neymar was one of the great players in his prime but now he has lost everything. I think wherever he goes the result will be the same it's better for him to decide to hang up his boots soon.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on November 07, 2024, 03:44:28 AM

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I also really want to see him perform magic tricks on the field. But right now, for Neymar, I think he should retire.

If only Neymar had not been absent for so many games due to his injury, he would have been remembered as one of the GOATs. I don’t see players doing tricks on the pitch anymore. It’s almost as if dribbling and skills is a taboo in modern football, players care about increasing their goal stats and also I think most modern managers do not appreciate their players dribbling because of the risk of injuries and the fact that they do not want the players to mess up the team’s game plan. Dribbling is an art, without it, the players look like robots executing a program that has been designed by the manager.

Dribbling or no dribbling, what coach and fans are after is the 3 points. If a player succeeds in dribbling other opponent players without scoring or their team winning the match, what's the gain of the dribbling because winning is what every team is after, not about a player having good football skills without giving their team victory? That's why a team victory in a match is not an individual thing but a teamwork thing. That's to say, dribbling doesn't matter in today's modern football; it is the pattern of play and good results that the team has. That's all that counts especially.

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Quote from: mammusu on November 07, 2024, 05:22:13 AM

Neymar has been known as a great player from Brazil with an extraordinary talent for dribbling and performing stunning tricks, his frequent injuries are indeed unfortunate and may have hindered his potential to be truly recognised as one of the Goats of today, the tendency to focus more on statistics and efficiency that is often the basis of the coach so often sacrifices the creativity and flair of individual players over the years, but what happened to Neymar, I think it has nothing to do with the manager or the strategy he applies because so far we know that Neymar is a player who has a long list of injuries in his career, even a few days after he recovered from a long injury last season, he had to re-enter the treatment room due to a torn hamstring muscle, so I think, Al Hillal should release him at this time because he is no longer able to contribute for team, besides that with the history of injuries that Neymar currently has, of course, retirement is the right step he should take.

It's sad that Neymar is 32 years old, and you could say he's been retired for a couple of years already. Unfortunately, he was very far from fully realizing his talent. I am 99.9% sure that Al-Hilal will get rid of him, they simply don't need him - without him they are breaking all records and winning everything they can. There is no point in them losing 200 million a year on him without getting anything in return.
According to rumors, he may go to Inter Miami to join his friends from Barcelona or to Santos.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on November 06, 2024, 04:08:34 PM

I wouldn't blame Vinicius Jr if he decides to move to a Saudi Arabian club, I think one of the reasons is losing the recently concluded Ballon d'Or award which many soccer analyst believe he deserves to be awarded the trophy instead of Rodri, it's obvious Vinicius Jr is very disappointed by that event possibly might have prompted his purported move to Saudi Arabian league, personally I believe he deserve the award based on his record at the club both in the league and UCL, he might not get the opportunity of achieving that target again instead he would rather choose to move away from Europe to sign lucrative contract in Saudi.

Vinicius Junior moving to Saudi Arabian club will be a dumb idea from the fact that top teams in Europe are willingly to get him and even give him a wage that's highly reasonable and fair. He is just still young and can do way more especially in his National team in order to win the Ballon d'Or in a way that no one will have no other option, than to say he truly and only deserve this.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on November 07, 2024, 06:29:28 AM

What a joke he blame Mbappe for the losses, he should blame Vinicius instead.

Ancelotti should try a strategy without Mbappe, then a strategy without Vinicius, so he will know who's the problem in Real Madrid. Zidane can't change the team, if Ancelotti not able to fix that, so do Zidane.

It's better to recruit Pep or Klopp, they have many strategy.

Pep to Real Madrid? How? That is the last club you should least expect Pep would go to become he was the main man in Barcelona, it's even feasible for him to go to Barcelona than go to Real Madrid. Also, I'm not sure if Klopp will even go there when he willingly left Liverpool when he wasn't force to leave the club. The problem of Real Madrid isn't the manager but the players, just as you said playing without Mbape or Vinicious might be his best shot in knowing the solution.

I think Anceloti is only trying to avoid problems and media attention, he would have reserve him couple of times but this is what the club want and he is doing it otherwise I'm not sure he is gong to be included or start when he is not adding any value to the team. I remember Perez swear on the national television that if Mbape comes begging, they will not accept him but he was happy when Mbape later changed his mind. All I can say is that this is karma for Mbape, nature has a way it get back at your stupidity.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 06, 2024, 03:36:21 PM

Actually, if you look at the reasons a few years ago Zidane was also not fired even though at that time there was news that he would be fired if Madrid did not qualify for the Champions League but indeed that did not happen, it's just that in several other rumors it was said that Zidane was not happy with the statement he would be fired so he resigned at that time when the season ended.

For achievements I don't want to compare these two coaches because in the end looking at the conditions of coaching they are in their respective eras and achievements and both are very good so we don't need to compare the achievements of these two coaches. But if there is a hope that Madrid try to make a breakthrough by bringing back Zidane to replace Ancelotti then this could still be a good option for now even though this might have a transition but until now I think Madrid can still do with Zidane because he already knows the typical coaching of Madrid and has been in his heyday at Madrid as a player and coach.

Zidane wasn't sacked, in fact he quit twice in total as far as I can remember. First he quit while he was still winning, but they started to do badly without him so he came back. And after three years in a row UCL titles, he quit once more. Zidane wasn't fired by anyone, that dude did better than any other coach in that short span of time, so there was no possible way that he would be fired.

I am not expecting him to come back neither, there is no way that he is ready for that. He talked about how hard it was and he just wants to spend time with his family instead and that's why he quit. We need to remember, these players travel a lot and spend time at training grounds a lot, so that means they are seeing their family very rarely, that's not ok by some of them.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 07, 2024, 08:17:20 AM

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Actually for Vini although in the end it is a bit unfortunate with the rumors now where he refused the extension of the Madrid contract and many rumors about leaving but I don't consider this excessive because I think we all have to accept the decision taken only at least if indeed he wants to leave Madrid then he should look for a club that is more than Madrid not a downgrade by moving to a club that is lower in terms of level because it is indeed a shame if his potential is still very good to go to a place that makes him lose popularity in Europe.

The offer from the Saudi Arabian club is already very unreasonable and even strange, just to bring in Vinicius they want to show that money there has no value. I mean 300 million Euros is crazy Al Hilal has indirectly destroyed the transfer market with their excessive ambition. But it's up to Vinicius if he gives up in Europe go ahead, whatever trophy he has won with Madrid, remember 300 million Euros has never been offered to any player.

Al Hilal is already a team that dominates the Saudi Arabian league with its current squad. I don't understand what more they could want. I don't think Vinicius or Mbappé should join this team, they are already in a very good position. You see, after Mbappé joined Real Madrid, the balance of the team was disrupted. I attribute this to Mbappé's selfish play. The same thing could have happened to the Saudi Arabian team.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on November 07, 2024, 11:19:03 AM

I think it has been a while since Neymar left top-level football. Now that he has overcome his injuries, he has fallen below expectations and I think he will continue to do so. We can say that Neymar no longer has any connection with football. His body is not as durable as it used to be. In case the injuries reoccur, I think he should not risk himself by entering the game in the second half if he is going to play football. We can say that his career is over now.

Santos do not see his career as over, they are closely monitoring his situation at his present club and immediately his contract gets terminated there will be interested in having him back. I was wondering why his former club will still be interested in him but then I realized that even when Neymar doesn't play he still gets the attention of the media and he could be good for marketing and business of his former club Santos. They know that if they bring him back to the club they will be able to sell jerseys and then attract supporters who will be interested in seeing Magic Neymar play again.

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 07, 2024, 10:01:00 AM

Quote from: Palakka on November 07, 2024, 09:50:22 AM

but what have been my question is, do Arab league clubs also have financial restrictions or not during this time recruiting players?
Because as we know if it seems like they never think about whether the price of the player is expensive or not so far.

To answer your question, I don't think their is any restrictions on money spent on acquiring of players, the only restriction I know about in the Saudi Arabia league is that their is a certain number of foreign based players that should not be exceeded, but when it comes to finance and how money are being spent, I don't think their is any restrictions.

It seems that I have a different understanding from what Op meant. Because I understand it is whether the Saudi Pro League club has a limit on spending money, or in other words whether they will not have financial problems later.
Well, maybe I will give an answer according to what I understand. What I know is that the Saudi Pro League club is owned by very rich princes, it seems that we also see a lot of how clubs in Europe when they buy also become very good financially. For example, Newcastle United which is the latest club to be bought by a Saudi prince. And there are many similar examples.

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Who has a detailed information about Neymar's injury

I read a headline from Fabrio alleging that Neymar was sub off because of injury as he reappeared after a long term absence. I also see on facebook when Neymar said his doctor warned him. Seems the second alleged injury is not pronounced, maybe he was subbed for safety purposes.

I have really missed that epitome of sweet football. I am hungry of seeing him play again. I miss King Ney.

I love Neymar, he’s a world class player and should have won a Ballon d’Or in his career at Barcelona. It’s unfortunate that Neymar is injury prone and this has caused him to be sidelined for extended periods of time.
Neymar’s style of play is entertaining to watch, his creativity and skill bring something special to the game, and his return would be a huge boost for both his club and fans. It’s important that Neymar and his medical team prioritize long-term fitness so he can continue to perform at the highest level and showcase his unique talent. I’m eager to see him back on the pitch.

Is Neymar injured again? Football is cruel. Injuries have tormented and devastated his career. He is very talented but his body is prone to injuries. Continuing to have Neymar in the team is a financial burden for Al-Hilal. And the club must find a way to get rid of him, even if it means paying the full penalty clause. Al Hilal should consider parting ways with Neymar, they could be interested in Liverpool star Mohamed Salah.
I also really want to see him perform magic tricks on the field. But right now, for Neymar, I think he should retire.

Some people are considers Neymar is the last Jogo Bonito which Brazil has and why people says that because Neymar is the player with skilfull but unfortunately the injured has been ruin his career and now Neymar performance is decline compared to when he still playing at Barcelona however about Neymar condition actually he was return to play with Al Hilal several days ago but bad luck for him because he got the injured again and it is confirmed Neymar have to absense for next 4 or 6 weeks and after this incident i think i have to agree with you that Neymar should be retired because his body condition makes him cannot playing at high level of competition again

I think it has been a while since Neymar left top-level football. Now that he has overcome his injuries, he has fallen below expectations and I think he will continue to do so. We can say that Neymar no longer has any connection with football. His body is not as durable as it used to be. In case the injuries reoccur, I think he should not risk himself by entering the game in the second half if he is going to play football. We can say that his career is over now.

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Quote from: mamesso on November 06, 2024, 11:06:19 PM

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So if the reason for the departure to Saudi league is actually because of the failure to win the award I will say he definitely shouldn’t but rather stay for sometime and out in performance that they can put in same position to win again

If he feels his statistical low performance is the fault of Madrid's management, he's on a right side. The point is whether he'd find a manager in Saudi that'll bring out the best in him. He's in his prime, it doesn't matter where he goes, his results would speak for him. If he scores more goals in Saudi, fans in Europe would celebrate.

Moving to the Saudi Pro League was not the best choice for him, indirectly he has destroyed his career just to get a higher salary. He must learn from the mistakes that Oscar made, at that time he was at the peak of his performance, but after moving to the Chinese League his career began to fade and he lost his place in the Brazilian national team. If he feels pressured with Real Madrid due to failing to win the Ballon D'or and the negative effects of boycotting the event, a move to another European club would be better for him.

His going to Saudi doesn't mean he's going out of market. What adds value to a player is good performance, if Madrid is no longer favorable, his worth would reduce, still. Definitely, Saudi is off, and most players who go there are always forgotten. His fan base are not there. Still it wouldn't stop his shine. When Osimhen was heading to Galatasaray on loan many people discouraged him and thought it'll affect his career negatively, but he made the list of 50 most marketable athletes in the world.

Wherever you play football scouts are there, and they'll go for what they need, now clubs like Ac Milan, and Chelsea eye Osimhen. If Vini's performances will be remarkable in Saudi, it's not bad

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Quote from: Palakka on November 07, 2024, 09:50:22 AM

but what have been my question is, do Arab league clubs also have financial restrictions or not during this time recruiting players?
Because as we know if it seems like they never think about whether the price of the player is expensive or not so far.

To answer your question, I don't think their is any restrictions on money spent on acquiring of players, the only restriction I know about in the Saudi Arabia league is that their is a certain number of foreign based players that should not be exceeded, but when it comes to finance and how money are being spent, I don't think their is any restrictions.

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Ancelotti could be looking for another job soon, I am not sure who they are going to hire, there are talks about Xabi alonso being the leading candidate right now, and considering how he played there for a while too, that could make some sense. I am guessing that it will be a hard job for him too, not going to be that easy but we can see that work out eventually.

One thing I am not sure about at the moment is that if they could even fix what they have, most probably they will end up with nothing at all, and Xabi will not be a huge improvement. I get that they are not happy with what Ancelotti is showing right now, and to be fair he had a season where he lost the league and UCL as well, so having two good seasons and two bad seasons isn't acceptable at Real Madrid, and he might be fired at the end of the season if he fails this year too and looks like he will. But that doesn't mean Xabi will eb great, we still have no idea what kind of manager he will be.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 07, 2024, 08:17:20 AM

Quote from: Raflesia on November 07, 2024, 04:44:37 AM

Actually for Vini although in the end it is a bit unfortunate with the rumors now where he refused the extension of the Madrid contract and many rumors about leaving but I don't consider this excessive because I think we all have to accept the decision taken only at least if indeed he wants to leave Madrid then he should look for a club that is more than Madrid not a downgrade by moving to a club that is lower in terms of level because it is indeed a shame if his potential is still very good to go to a place that makes him lose popularity in Europe.

The offer from the Saudi Arabian club is already very unreasonable and even strange, just to bring in Vinicius they want to show that money there has no value. I mean 300 million Euros is crazy Al Hilal has indirectly destroyed the transfer market with their excessive ambition. But it's up to Vinicius if he gives up in Europe go ahead, whatever trophy he has won with Madrid, remember 300 million Euros has never been offered to any player.

€300 million offer from Al Hillal toVinicius is clearly very tempting and could significantly change his career in the future if he accepts the offer, so far Arab league clubs seem to be too ambitious to bring in star players, so I think the competition for a player recruit will obviously be very tight, So far we have seen that European teams often have to think twice about recruiting star players and this is due to the financial restrictions that bind every clubs in Europe, but what have been my question is, do Arab league clubs also have financial restrictions or not during this time recruiting players?
Because as we know if it seems like they never think about whether the price of the player is expensive or not so far.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on November 07, 2024, 06:29:28 AM

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Zidane is a better choice, Ancelotti didn't behave as a nice coach the moment he blamed Mbappe to be the cause of real Madrid problem. That doesn't speak professional of him, he's there to train these players to become great and outperform their opponents. He's not been doing a good job, Zidane would bring forth a better experience that'll motivate Players including Mbappe. Coupled with the fact that he's worked in Madrid in the past, his aura will improve the strength of star players in the team.

What a joke he blame Mbappe for the losses, he should blame Vinicius instead.

Ancelotti should try a strategy without Mbappe, then a strategy without Vinicius, so he will know who's the problem in Real Madrid. Zidane can't change the team, if Ancelotti not able to fix that, so do Zidane.

It's better to recruit Pep or Klopp, they have many strategy.

I have said many times that the Real Madrid coach has started to have too many feelings for Vinicius to the point of not seeing the mistakes he makes and does not like to replace Vinicius. On the field, Vinicius focuses more on drawing attention and not on playing as a team. It is true that there were times when Vinicius' methods gave Real Madrid the advantage. But that would not always work. We only need to see that since Vinicius did not win the title of Real Madrid's best player, the Real Madrid board behaved sentimentally and did not attend the ceremony. This is something that demonstrates what I am saying: that they are acting sentimentally when it comes to Vinicius. In my opinion, if Mbappe played in Vinicius' position, he would score many goals. And to make Mbappe's situation worse, I read this news:

Quote from: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1854513723328627186

Deschamps on Mbappé not part of France squad for next games: “I had discussions with Kylian and made my decision. It’s better this way…”.

“Mbappé wanted to come with us, it’s not because of any other problem”.

source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1854513723328627186

Mbappe's career is falling apart

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