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Quote from: harapan on January 14, 2023, 04:46:31 AM

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Ronaldo and Messi have different conditions, if when the contract with Man United ends and a big European club immediately makes an offer to Ronaldo I'm sure he will choose the club over his current club while Messi does not have to hurry to accept an offer from the Arab club especially if there is another big European club that will make an offer to him when his contract with PSG ends, then the European club he will choose, and in my opinion Messi looks calmer in his career so maybe he will end his career in the next 2-3 years and PSG is the club where he ended his career.

The difference between Messi and Ronaldo at this point in their career is that Ronaldo still plays football like he has a lot to prove. He has nothing to prove and he needs to know that. Messi plays football just for the fun of it at this point.
A 37 year old player that has achieved every possible thing in football should be okay to be on the bench and help out his team. It should always be about the team. He needs people around him that tells him the truth that he's not what he used to be 10 years ago. His first mistake was leaving Juventus in that manner. He should have never have gone to Man United when he left Juventus. Same thing I pray for Messi not to do (go back to Barcelona). Ronaldo should have just found a way to go to Manchester City instead but its too late now.

What Ronaldo has achieved may be difficult for other players to achieve, Messi is slightly above Ronaldo when judged in terms of winning titles with clubs and individuals. Messi has managed to prove himself above Ronaldo, the world cup trophy is the only title Ronaldo has not won. Now that Ronaldo has moved to Asia to play for Al Nassr in the Arab League, the rivalry between Ronaldo and Messi has ended. Messi, who is still playing with PSG, is still able to contribute at the highest level, while the Arab League Level is much lower than the European Competition Level.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 13, 2023, 09:39:44 AM

So frustrating for Porter. He needed defenders, he has gotten, and he needed attackers he has gotten, and now the club is not doing well. Many are saying that midfield is the major challenge. Even if Chelsea's significant midfielders are on injury it doesn't mean that the second Choices aren't good enough to cover the pace at least till the rest players return. They are not the cause of the poor results the club is Facing. Zacharia and Kovacic made a good duo in the EPL match against man city, but they underperformed ag against Fulham. Midfield is not the cause, the moment is just bad, I believe it will be fine in subsequent times.

I think the current situation with the club now is very much similar to early parts of the season with Tuchel, same injury troubles and Tuchel wasn't so lucky to get the amount of new signings Potter had got since he joined. This are really trying times for the club and I just hope the management will learn from the mistake they made by sacking Tuchel without giving him enough time to settle in and find a solution to the problems at the time.

Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on January 13, 2023, 12:28:43 PM

Some rumors about Depay now seem to be starting to interest several clubs.
Since there have been rumors that several Barcelona players will be sold in order to save on current salary expenses, Depay has started to be looked at by several clubs.
Previously, there was the name Rome, now Depay was lyrics by Atletico.
This is a little fair in my opinion. Joao's position is still vacant now and inevitably Atletico must find an alternative.
Depay's condition is also a bit favorable because at least at Atletico if this is indeed an agreement then he will get several opportunities to play bigger.

Memphis Depay is still talented and experienced player, a very important characteristic that will be needed in every team. Before the world cup I would have doubted this news but after putting up a good performance at the world cup with Netherlands what would you expect. Atletico Madrid seem to be very interested in the player judging by the number of times and places I see this headlines. Depay will fill in for Joao Felix if he joins.

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Quote from: Joca97 on January 14, 2023, 12:38:48 AM

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Al Hilal team are thinking of a move for Lionel Messi to counter their rival Al-Nassr after they signed Ronaldo on a record deal. However I don't think Messi would think of leaving Europe now.

Because the situation is not the same for Messi. He is already a PSG player and his performance level is very high. He is fighting for the Champions League title with his team for now. He is expected to extend his contract with PSG one more season also. Al Hilal are also ready to spend insane amount of money on Messi transfer. They are speculated to offer $300m a year to Messi. This is definitely huge but just as I said I don't think this is the time Messi is leaving PSG.

I dont think Messi will leave europe to go to Al hilal. I think this is just a rumour that will never happen. Ronaldo maybe moves to al nassr but messi probobly wont move here. He will either stay in europe or go back to argentina.

And if he do so at the end it feels like competition between them both
I don't see him leaving Europe too soon
A move to Barcelona and then back to Argentina will be such a great move

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Quote from: Strongkored on January 14, 2023, 12:25:50 AM

Ronaldo and Messi have different conditions, if when the contract with Man United ends and a big European club immediately makes an offer to Ronaldo I'm sure he will choose the club over his current club while Messi does not have to hurry to accept an offer from the Arab club especially if there is another big European club that will make an offer to him when his contract with PSG ends, then the European club he will choose, and in my opinion Messi looks calmer in his career so maybe he will end his career in the next 2-3 years and PSG is the club where he ended his career.

The difference between Messi and Ronaldo at this point in their career is that Ronaldo still plays football like he has a lot to prove. He has nothing to prove and he needs to know that. Messi plays football just for the fun of it at this point.
A 37 year old player that has achieved every possible thing in football should be okay to be on the bench and help out his team. It should always be about the team. He needs people around him that tells him the truth that he's not what he used to be 10 years ago. His first mistake was leaving Juventus in that manner. He should have never have gone to Man United when he left Juventus. Same thing I pray for Messi not to do (go back to Barcelona). Ronaldo should have just found a way to go to Manchester City instead but its too late now.

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Quote from: makishart on January 13, 2023, 11:27:42 PM

Chelsea already bought some strikers instead of making its midfielder and defensive like become stronger but chelsea was only focusing to the attacking line which is very disappointed. I think that chelsea needs to do so many things to recover its performance. Felix is having horrible performance during his debut. That doesn't even make sense to call him as a good player while his debut proves that if he was not even capable enough to be a good striker.
The red card has been proving how bad he is. Chelsea was making another failure transfer.

But before leaving the field, Felix actually played impressively. The 23-year-old striker fired the most shots (6 times) with 4 of them on target and dribbles were successful 2 times. He also made Chelsea get 4 free kicks. Because he got a direct red card, Felix will be absent for three matchweeks, I also think Felix on his first debut might be too excited so yeah I think it's only natural even if it hurts Chelsea

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Quote from: Despairo on January 13, 2023, 11:24:45 PM

There's a news where Chelsea is interested with Noni Madueke aka PSV Eindhoven player in left winger position. Where are people who always say Hakim Ziyech is a good player and Chelsea mistreat him? after 4 matches he doesn't contribute anything. In left winger position, only Sterling and ZIyech are fit in this position, but since Sterling is currently injured and Ziyech doesn't show anything, Chelsea is prefer to sign Madueke.

PSV Eindhoven is currently experiencing financial problems, although previously they also sold Cody Gakpo to Liverpool, reportedly PSV Eindhoven is willing to let Noni Madueke go if Chelsea dares to buy at the price they set. Currently Chelsea are in a bad condition, the arrival of Noni Madueke is believed to be able to help the problems they are facing, although it is not certain that he will be able to have a big effect in the near future.

If you look at the readiness of the funds owned by the new Chelsea club owner, it is very likely that Noni Madueke will become a Chelsea player, but there are still many rumors that might occur about this player.

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The verbal proposal is around 30 Million Euro, I don't expect there's would be so much change since Madueke's market value is only 10 Million Euro. This what looks on Chelsea internal financial since they've spend a lot money lol.

As for the matter of price, it could change or the selling price of players will increase, because Chelsea is in need of players to refresh Graham Potter's squad, so his arrival will help the team a little going forward. If PSV Eindhoven takes advantage of the bad conditions that are currently being experienced by Chelsea, then it is very likely that player prices can go up more expensive.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 13, 2023, 03:45:34 PM

Al Hilal team are thinking of a move for Lionel Messi to counter their rival Al-Nassr after they signed Ronaldo on a record deal. However I don't think Messi would think of leaving Europe now.

Because the situation is not the same for Messi. He is already a PSG player and his performance level is very high. He is fighting for the Champions League title with his team for now. He is expected to extend his contract with PSG one more season also. Al Hilal are also ready to spend insane amount of money on Messi transfer. They are speculated to offer $300m a year to Messi. This is definitely huge but just as I said I don't think this is the time Messi is leaving PSG.

This news was not convincing to me. Messi is still very good. He is the star of Paris Saint-Germain FC. I think this news is like the viral of Al-Hilal football team. Of course they have the money to transfer Messi. But Messi will not go to the Saudi Arabian Pro League. We all know this very well. Because he still has credits in the European leagues. He is not like Ronaldo. Maybe two years later he will go to the Saudi Arabian Pro League to earn money. But there is no reason for him to go there today.

I think Messi will return to Barcelona at the end of the season and leave football there. He will not go to Asia or America.

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Quote from: Joca97 on January 14, 2023, 12:38:48 AM

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I dont think Messi will leave europe to go to Al hilal. I think this is just a rumour that will never happen. Ronaldo maybe moves to al nassr but messi probobly wont move here. He will either stay in europe or go back to argentina.

This is just a cheap rumor made by the media crew to increase their income. Ronaldo departure for Al Nassr has been a given for weeks. Now that Ronaldo has officially become part of Al Nassr players, the media is making rumors that don't make sense in my opinion.
It is impossible for Messi to leave PSG to follow Ronaldo to the Arab League, especially since he has just won the world cup trophy.
Ronaldo departure to Al Nassr was because none of Europe's elite clubs were willing to sign him, while Messi was still being fought over by Europe's elite clubs. This rumor will never happen until whenever, because Messi is one of the strongest candidates to win the Ballon d'Or for the eighth time after successfully bringing Argentina to the World Cup Trophy.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 13, 2023, 03:45:34 PM

Al Hilal team are thinking of a move for Lionel Messi to counter their rival Al-Nassr after they signed Ronaldo on a record deal. However I don't think Messi would think of leaving Europe now.

Because the situation is not the same for Messi. He is already a PSG player and his performance level is very high. He is fighting for the Champions League title with his team for now. He is expected to extend his contract with PSG one more season also. Al Hilal are also ready to spend insane amount of money on Messi transfer. They are speculated to offer $300m a year to Messi. This is definitely huge but just as I said I don't think this is the time Messi is leaving PSG.

I dont think Messi will leave europe to go to Al hilal. I think this is just a rumour that will never happen. Ronaldo maybe moves to al nassr but messi probobly wont move here. He will either stay in europe or go back to argentina.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 13, 2023, 03:45:34 PM

Al Hilal team are thinking of a move for Lionel Messi to counter their rival Al-Nassr after they signed Ronaldo on a record deal. However I don't think Messi would think of leaving Europe now.

Because the situation is not the same for Messi. He is already a PSG player and his performance level is very high. He is fighting for the Champions League title with his team for now. He is expected to extend his contract with PSG one more season also. Al Hilal are also ready to spend insane amount of money on Messi transfer. They are speculated to offer $300m a year to Messi. This is definitely huge but just as I said I don't think this is the time Messi is leaving PSG.

Ronaldo and Messi have different conditions, if when the contract with Man United ends and a big European club immediately makes an offer to Ronaldo I'm sure he will choose the club over his current club while Messi does not have to hurry to accept an offer from the Arab club especially if there is another big European club that will make an offer to him when his contract with PSG ends, then the European club he will choose, and in my opinion Messi looks calmer in his career so maybe he will end his career in the next 2-3 years and PSG is the club where he ended his career.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on January 13, 2023, 04:34:00 PM

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I wonder, what problem actually happened between these two people, so that it is detrimental to his own team. If it's true Simeone has a bad relationship with Joao Felix but I think while he can play a good game he has to give him a chance to play and stop being selfish over trivial things.
Joao Felix is a good young player overall, so I think he deserves more minutes to get the most out of him.

João Félix did made an excellent debut in his first game for Chelsea, although the red card issued to him was totally devastating for the new player and the team. However, there's more chances for the Portuguese international to explore in blues games, definitely he will missed three games but he will come back stronger.

Felix is a good player and a plus for Chelsea for signing him to play for them. The team is lacking in the attacking and he’s there to feel that void now. His debut might have been bad for him but I still see great potential in him and I believe he’ll comeback stronger to help Chelsea take on their role and relief them of their worst moments now.

Chelsea already bought some strikers instead of making its midfielder and defensive like become stronger but chelsea was only focusing to the attacking line which is very disappointed. I think that chelsea needs to do so many things to recover its performance. Felix is having horrible performance during his debut. That doesn't even make sense to call him as a good player while his debut proves that if he was not even capable enough to be a good striker.
The red card has been proving how bad he is. Chelsea was making another failure transfer.

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There's a news where Chelsea is interested with Noni Madueke aka PSV Eindhoven player in left winger position. Where are people who always say Hakim Ziyech is a good player and Chelsea mistreat him? after 4 matches he doesn't contribute anything. In left winger position, only Sterling and ZIyech are fit in this position, but since Sterling is currently injured and Ziyech doesn't show anything, Chelsea is prefer to sign Madueke.

The verbal proposal is around 30 Million Euro, I don't expect there's would be so much change since Madueke's market value is only 10 Million Euro. This what looks on Chelsea internal financial since they've spend a lot money lol.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1614016311599718401

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Quote from: makishart on January 13, 2023, 06:47:40 PM

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Quote from: Alanaz on January 13, 2023, 01:04:32 PM

I wonder, what problem actually happened between these two people, so that it is detrimental to his own team. If it's true Simeone has a bad relationship with Joao Felix but I think while he can play a good game he has to give him a chance to play and stop being selfish over trivial things.
Joao Felix is a good young player overall, so I think he deserves more minutes to get the most out of him.

João Félix did made an excellent debut in his first game for Chelsea, although the red card issued to him was totally devastating for the new player and the team. However, there's more chances for the Portuguese international to explore in blues games, definitely he will missed three games but he will come back stronger.

I don't think that felix made a great debut with chelsea. His debut was the worst by getting a red card against fulham. he was doing unnecessary thing for the club. He was wasting his chance to play until the end of game and he was also making the club become victim from his aggressive foul. that means if his debut was so bad. I wonder which thing that makes you feel his debut was excellent before? i don't even see any things that makes me amaze with his debut.
Im feeling very disappointed with him. he was making chelsea lose against fulham. He was a failed transfer for chelsea.

Joao Felix is expected to give hope to Chelsea but he had a nightmare debut due to getting a red card for carelessness. A defeat should not be blamed on a player because it's a team game, but a sloppy lunge that Felix had done shall be deemed to be the cause of the defeat because Fulham's winning goal was scored after Felix was sent off. Indeed, there are still many opportunities for Felix to prove his prowess but for sure he will have to wait until 3 more matches, and hopefully, that bad debut doesn't affect him mentally.

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Quote from: Josefjix on January 13, 2023, 03:36:23 PM

Quote from: Alanaz on January 13, 2023, 01:04:32 PM

I wonder, what problem actually happened between these two people, so that it is detrimental to his own team. If it's true Simeone has a bad relationship with Joao Felix but I think while he can play a good game he has to give him a chance to play and stop being selfish over trivial things.
Joao Felix is a good young player overall, so I think he deserves more minutes to get the most out of him.

João Félix did made an excellent debut in his first game for Chelsea, although the red card issued to him was totally devastating for the new player and the team. However, there's more chances for the Portuguese international to explore in blues games, definitely he will missed three games but he will come back stronger.

I don't think that felix made a great debut with chelsea. His debut was the worst by getting a red card against fulham. he was doing unnecessary thing for the club. He was wasting his chance to play until the end of game and he was also making the club become victim from his aggressive foul. that means if his debut was so bad. I wonder which thing that makes you feel his debut was excellent before? i don't even see any things that makes me amaze with his debut.
Im feeling very disappointed with him. he was making chelsea lose against fulham. He was a failed transfer for chelsea.

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on January 13, 2023, 12:28:43 PM

Some rumors about Depay now seem to be starting to interest several clubs.
Since there have been rumors that several Barcelona players will be sold in order to save on current salary expenses, Depay has started to be looked at by several clubs.
Previously, there was the name Rome, now Depay was lyrics by Atletico.
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I compare the fates of Depay and Aubameyang to each other. Both are very talented football players, but both could not show their talents fully. Maybe they didn't play in teams that could use the right strategies for them, maybe something else, I don't know, but they're both moving away from their prime now, and we haven't watched enough of them. Aubameyang probably won't be able to play for major teams again after the end of the season. Depay is a little younger than him, but it looks like his career will end in ways similar to Aubameyang's if he doesn't make good use of the opportunity at Atletico or at his next stop.

Aubameyang and Memphis plays separate roles no need to compare them
I don't think that Barcelona will let Memphis leave this window
And accepting Aubameyang is something that still won't occur

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 13, 2023, 04:38:46 PM

In my opinion, hiring Mbape for a gigantic salary plus 300 million bonuses is an unhealthy hire. Signing Ronaldo or Messi (if he really repeats this path) does not carry anything terrible and in fact it is money for the brand.
It will be scary if the clubs from the oil countries start buying up the current top players not to the European clubs they own, but to the clubs of their countries. This is going to be really scary.

I believe that it is not so easy to convince most high level players to play in the Saudi league. The country is very different from the West and the league is not as desirable if the player is thinking about his national team and world cup.
I can understand the salary of Mbappé (but I don't agree) because it's a young player, can really help PSG win titles, sell merchandise all over the world, he's the face of PSG etc.

I was just reading about the Messi and Al Hilal in more sources. Government of Saudi Arabia want to attract more sponsors and want the championship games to be broadcast to more countries, that would be the real intention, and at the current moment almost nothing would be bigger than a Messi vs Ronaldo.

My bet is Messi will stay at PSG at least this season to try UCL.

And just a correction, some sources said that the salary could be as high as $350 million.
mundodeportivo.com/us/en/soccer/20230112/31161/messi-the-biggest-wish-for-hilal.html

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Quote from: alpamar99 on January 13, 2023, 12:38:43 PM

At least there are several players, one of which is Depay, who is expected to be included in the sales list.
This could be a good thing because Atletico need a striker now that Joao has left but on the other hand there are still a few possibilities.
Lewandowski's replacement if he can't play is only Depay now so I still feel this can be reconsidered by Xavi.

Barcelona are tying to sell Depay and get Aubameyang back to be Lewandoski' s replacement. Depay to Atletico is a good deal for all concerned. If Depay is used as a winger in Atletico he'll play well but as a top 9 he will struggle. He doesn't see much playing time in Barcelona so he has to leave.

As for Aubameyang, he will be welcomed back to Barca but I really don't see the need. He will be brought in to be Lewandoski's replacement and Lewandoski hardly gets injured or hardly not fit. He will only miss the two remaining league matches and before Aubameyag will join the team those matches must have been played.

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on January 13, 2023, 12:28:43 PM

Some rumors about Depay now seem to be starting to interest several clubs.
Since there have been rumors that several Barcelona players will be sold in order to save on current salary expenses, Depay has started to be looked at by several clubs.
Previously, there was the name Rome, now Depay was lyrics by Atletico.
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I compare the fates of Depay and Aubameyang to each other. Both are very talented football players, but both could not show their talents fully. Maybe they didn't play in teams that could use the right strategies for them, maybe something else, I don't know, but they're both moving away from their prime now, and we haven't watched enough of them. Aubameyang probably won't be able to play for major teams again after the end of the season. Depay is a little younger than him, but it looks like his career will end in ways similar to Aubameyang's if he doesn't make good use of the opportunity at Atletico or at his next stop.

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Quote from: rdluffy on January 13, 2023, 04:18:03 PM

I really hope Messi stays at PSG for 1 or 2 years before retirement of move to another country to gain money.
I was suspecting that, after Cristiano Ronaldo, the next would be Messi for sure.

I don't know about the ambitions of Messi, he already won everything, maybe he wants to gain UCL with PSG, but $300m a year is A LOT OF MONEY, it's a life changer money even for Messi, can you imagine 2 years, $ 600m Shocked

This looks like a competition to see who has more money than actually promoting soccer in the country.
This kind of hiring is generally not healthy and will be like soccer in China, UAE among others where they spent a lot of money on exorbitant hirings, but did not invest in the base that would be more important in the long run.

Here's a source to see about Al Hilal and Messi: https://www.marca.com/en/football/2023/01/12/63c06329268e3e724f8b45e8.html

In my opinion, hiring Mbape for a gigantic salary plus 300 million bonuses is an unhealthy hire. Signing Ronaldo or Messi (if he really repeats this path) does not carry anything terrible and in fact it is money for the brand.
It will be scary if the clubs from the oil countries start buying up the current top players not to the European clubs they own, but to the clubs of their countries. This is going to be really scary.

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If Messi signs for a club in the same league as Ronaldo for 50% more money, I think Ronaldo's head will explode Grin

I never thought we'd see players of such quality ending their careers there, but that kind of money on the table would tempt anyone.
I still think Messi won't end up there - but with these numbers flying around it's only a matter of time before some top EU players in their prime start going there.

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