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De Jong is playing very well right now. I think the reason why he didn't leave Barca was because of his love. This could be an expression of his love for Barcelona. Also, if he goes to Manchester United at this point, it will take him a long time to adapt and there are doubts whether he can play in the first XI. These are my personal opinions.

I agree that De Jong has love for the club and that will be the fundamental reason why he decided not to leave in the summer, he wants to play for the club but wants his wages owed to be paid, in my opinion it was a wise opinion to stay back at the club where he already build a fan base and good relationship with the players and coaching staff already. THere he feels at home and will play better.

De Jong didn't go to Manchester United because of any love for Barcelona. There is nothing like love, at that De Jong did was for himself and his interest. He felt that he needs to play champions league football to be more recognised in football and another thing is Barcelona technically held him back with buying off stories that Manchester United will pay. He is a good player and he is having

In the transfer process, the players themselves play an important role. As happened to Frenkie de Jong where Barcelona and Man United had reached
an agreement on a price, but because De Jong is still happy playing for Barcelona, finally De Jong refused to move to Man United. Therefore,
until the transfer market closed, De Jong still remained in Barcelona, because both Barcelona and Man United failed to persuade De Jong to move.
After all, De Jong's contribution to Barcelona is quite good, so it's a distinct advantage that Barcelona actually has a player like Frenkie de Jong.
And also Man United have got Casemiro, so De Jong doesn't need to leave Barcelona. I am very happy if De Jong can finish his contract at Barcelona,
I am sure De Jong will help Barcelona win trophies this season.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 18, 2022, 04:27:35 PM

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De Jong is playing very well right now. I think the reason why he didn't leave Barca was because of his love. This could be an expression of his love for Barcelona. Also, if he goes to Manchester United at this point, it will take him a long time to adapt and there are doubts whether he can play in the first XI. These are my personal opinions.

I agree that De Jong has love for the club and that will be the fundamental reason why he decided not to leave in the summer, he wants to play for the club but wants his wages owed to be paid, in my opinion it was a wise opinion to stay back at the club where he already build a fan base and good relationship with the players and coaching staff already. THere he feels at home and will play better.

He seems really know that going to manchester united is a big bet that his career could really in risk.

I mean if you look at the current manchester united situations where they are struggling to achieve something , their last trophy is a europa league back in 2017 which means it's been 5 years and counting! Where at barcelona he could growing still both in career and achievements.
Pretty reasonable one though.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on September 17, 2022, 08:07:26 PM

In my opinion, Real Madrid is the perfect place for Jude Bellingham. We can already see that Real Madrid are trying to rebuild their midfield as Luka Modric and Toni Kroos have become older and Casimiro has left the club. Over the last few transfer windows, they have already bought a number of young players, for example, Edoardo Camavinga and Tchouameni, and they already have Fede Valverde, so Bellingham will be an excellent fit for them as well.

However, since Real Madrid already has Tchouameni, Camavinga, and Valverde, Jude Bellingham's chance to be the main player won't be so high. He must compete with those quality midfielders to be the main player of Real Madrid. It can be different if he moves to another team that has fewer quality midfielders. So, it can be good if Bellingham is looking for a competitive team. But it seems not a really good place if he wants to play regularly as a main player.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on September 17, 2022, 10:58:29 PM

so I'm not sure Dortmund can keep Jude Bellingham, my prediction is Bellingham will move to another club next year.

It is what it is, and let us also not forget that football is also a business that has to be run properly, i'd not blame Dortmund for selling their biggest players, they aren't the only club that does that, it happens quite a lot in football, when a big club starts calling, with a good enough fee, and most importantly if the player wants to go, the right thing is to cash in on them; you could hold the player against their will, and thus they lose form and also refuse to sign a new contract with your club, in the end you don't get great performances from them, and might sell them for way cheaper than you should have, or they just walk away from the club for free when their contract runs out. I'd only blame a club if they repeatedly sell their players to their closest rival, and in the process strengthening them, if Bellingham wants to leave Dortmund, then the club should make enough money from him and move on, like i said, it is what it is.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 18, 2022, 04:27:35 PM

Quote from: kotwica666 on September 18, 2022, 12:18:39 PM

De Jong is playing very well right now. I think the reason why he didn't leave Barca was because of his love. This could be an expression of his love for Barcelona. Also, if he goes to Manchester United at this point, it will take him a long time to adapt and there are doubts whether he can play in the first XI. These are my personal opinions.

I agree that De Jong has love for the club and that will be the fundamental reason why he decided not to leave in the summer, he wants to play for the club but wants his wages owed to be paid, in my opinion it was a wise opinion to stay back at the club where he already build a fan base and good relationship with the players and coaching staff already. THere he feels at home and will play better.

De Jong didn't go to Manchester United because of any love for Barcelona. There is nothing like love, at that De Jong did was for himself and his interest. He felt that he needs to play champions league football to be more recognised in football and another thing is Barcelona technically held him back with buying off stories that Manchester United will pay. He is a good player and he is having a good season in Barcelona for now. Let us hope that Barcelona will pay all his outstanding entitlements that is due him and I don't know if he is one of the players that are taking pay cut in the club. The Barcelona team is very lucky to have a good set of players even when they are in financial crisis they were still able to buy good players that are able to contests in both Laliga and champions league.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on September 18, 2022, 12:18:39 PM

De Jong is playing very well right now. I think the reason why he didn't leave Barca was because of his love. This could be an expression of his love for Barcelona. Also, if he goes to Manchester United at this point, it will take him a long time to adapt and there are doubts whether he can play in the first XI. These are my personal opinions.

I agree that De Jong has love for the club and that will be the fundamental reason why he decided not to leave in the summer, he wants to play for the club but wants his wages owed to be paid, in my opinion it was a wise opinion to stay back at the club where he already build a fan base and good relationship with the players and coaching staff already. THere he feels at home and will play better.

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Quote from: Avirunes on September 18, 2022, 12:20:15 PM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 18, 2022, 08:05:50 AM

Well, I agree with this. His desire to leave Old Trafford, made the relationship between Manchester United and Ronaldo worse. and in the end ronaldo did not get the trust of erik, in the end he had to be willing to become a second tier player.

I don't think that is what is making Ronaldo fall out from first team preference of ten Haag. I would say it's more about performance rather than relation. Ten Haag knows how great player is but right now he has better option in that position who he thinks is giving more on the pitch than Ronaldo at the moment. I am sure once Ronaldo pushes himself and try more and give ten Haag a glimpse of what he can do then I think he definitely can make it back into first team selection for sure.

when cristiano managed to score 1 goal in the match against the sheriff (europa league), I saw the look on ten hag's face was very happy. Actually, Ten Hag really respects Cristiano and really wants Cristiano to be able to show his sharpness again on the field. I'm sure if cristiano continues to play well then ten hag will entrust him to continue as a starter and his contract next year will be extended by MU management.

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Quote from: beerlover on September 18, 2022, 12:48:01 AM

Ronaldo doesn't really have a "price", because it changes from club to club at this stage of his career. He is not the type of player who would be fine about going to Qatar or some Saudi team or whatever middle east rich persons team, or MLS, like Zlatan and Beckham did and earned a ton of money. If that was the case, I am sure you could find a team that is willing to pay 50 million for him and 50 million to him for 5 years, just look at Iniesta and how insane he is getting paid.

So long story short, that 20 million could very well become zero for the right team or fifty million for another, it all based on which team, he is not young anymore so his value is not known.

At this stage in illustrious Ronaldo's career his market value is very small shouldn't be more than £20m, but that aside I also that see Ronaldo as a player who will be open to move outside Europe. Ronaldo is a very ambitious player, someone who loves to be under the spot light, he wants to be noticed so going to Saudi Arabia will be like hiding away from the spotlight. Ronaldo can still be signed by a team for a bigger value like we see in some transfers where players are bought for value bigger than their initial valuation.

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Ronaldo's market value has decreased by 10 million to become 20 million euros in three months.

As others have already said in this thread, the market value that transfermarket is defining is not really a hard number that is valid for everyone that is involved in football. It is just a value that this site is setting following their own rules and parameters. Other sites are doing the same and may have different values for each player.
That being said, it is pretty obvious that the market value of Cristiano Ronaldo will slowly but surely become lower and lower because he is already 37 years old. I would say 20 M€ for a player of his age is still an excellent value. Many good players never had such a high value even in their prime.

however, this value has decreased. that's what's happening right now with Ronaldo. apart from his old age as a football athlete. His performance at Man United is currently also declining.
somehow it is very difficult for Ronaldo to get a club that plays in the Champions League. that's what he's looking for right now. even willing to pay less of course it should be an attraction for the club.
before wanting to leave, I think Ronaldo has to show his ability is still there. and playing at his best for Man United is a great way to attract interest from other big clubs.

In my opinion, there are two factors that are working against Ronaldo right now.

One of them is his age as the guy’s 37 right now and his body can only do so much for himself at this top level of football. As a matter of fact, the Premier League is an extremely physical football league right now, so playing there at the age of 37 and expecting the best out of him is a no-go.

Another factor could be the fact that he would like to play in the Champions League but is unable to do so. As a result of the fact that he wanted to leave United because he wanted to play in the Champions League and now he is not getting the opportunity to play, his morale has dipped and is affecting his performance.

I cannot totally write Ronaldo off despite his current age because Ronaldo is a kind of player who can put up a surprising displace on a good day, that kind of display that will shock the entire world so I think Ronaldo still has something to offer at Manchester United and Portugal national team. Despite his age he is still capable of scoring many goals and contributing to the teams success.

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Quote from: D-law on September 18, 2022, 01:51:19 PM

The coach has to do what's right for the club in terms of fitness and appropriate selection. When he starts scoring then it'll all be on the winger's to sit tight, benching Ronaldo is way useless

Manager has to do the right thing for the team and ten Haag is doing that for the team. He is measuring players equally based on what kind of performance a player puts on the team. That requires guts which earlier managers didn't had. I don't think they will bench Ronaldo completely as they are out of attacking options and I think ten Haag plans is to use him as a striker in attacks at later stage maybe a bit with change in attacking strategy so I think somewhere there is a role for Ronaldo still. The thing is how Ronaldo is handling this situation as he obviously want to start and complete the game but manager always wants the best for the team and so at the moment he is not in starting picture right now.

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Quote from: D-law on September 18, 2022, 01:51:19 PM

The media has a lot to say always getting good information is always nice
I'm sure they both have a good relationship among themselves. Both the Coach and Ronaldo are in a good mood
The coach has to do what's right for the club in terms of fitness and appropriate selection. When he starts scoring then it'll all be on the winger's to sit tight, benching Ronaldo is way useless

The problem is that when we talk about Ronaldo, it is certain that the media will exaggerate this to make it look more attractive because news about big-name players always rises to the surface very quickly.
They now look fine as for Ten Hag's decision that's for sure because he realized that this was the right choice and actually in this case being a substitute was better for Ronaldo than being substituted in the middle of the game as this would trigger his emotions again and again.

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Quote from: Avirunes on September 18, 2022, 12:20:15 PM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 18, 2022, 08:05:50 AM

Well, I agree with this. His desire to leave Old Trafford, made the relationship between Manchester United and Ronaldo worse. and in the end ronaldo did not get the trust of erik, in the end he had to be willing to become a second tier player.

I don't think that is what is making Ronaldo fall out from first team preference of ten Haag. I would say it's more about performance rather than relation. Ten Haag knows how great player is but right now he has better option in that position who he thinks is giving more on the pitch than Ronaldo at the moment. I am sure once Ronaldo pushes himself and try more and give ten Haag a glimpse of what he can do then I think he definitely can make it back into first team selection for sure.

The media has a lot to say always getting good information is always nice
I'm sure they both have a good relationship among themselves. Both the Coach and Ronaldo are in a good mood
The coach has to do what's right for the club in terms of fitness and appropriate selection. When he starts scoring then it'll all be on the winger's to sit tight, benching Ronaldo is way useless

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 18, 2022, 08:05:50 AM

Well, I agree with this. His desire to leave Old Trafford, made the relationship between Manchester United and Ronaldo worse. and in the end ronaldo did not get the trust of erik, in the end he had to be willing to become a second tier player.

I don't think that is what is making Ronaldo fall out from first team preference of ten Haag. I would say it's more about performance rather than relation. Ten Haag knows how great player is but right now he has better option in that position who he thinks is giving more on the pitch than Ronaldo at the moment. I am sure once Ronaldo pushes himself and try more and give ten Haag a glimpse of what he can do then I think he definitely can make it back into first team selection for sure.

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Apparently you did not follow this story well, since in the end the transition did not take place only because of De Jong's decision to stay in Barcelona. Barcelona would have been happy to sell him (and be free of a huge salary obligation) and United to buy him, but De Jong himself didn't want to go to a club that didn't play in the Champions League plus his girlfriend was against leaving Barcelona for England.

The speculation that occurred on De Jong transfers was full of controversy and also took a lot of time, Barcelona had actually agreed on De Jong move to Manchester United but reportedly De Jong actually rejected the move for unknown reasons, but Barcelona reportedly has a debt to De Jong made it possible for De Jong to intervene in Barcelona decision so that the agreement with Manchester united was canceled at this time, reportedly also De Jong did not want a move and also did not want to cut his salary so this caused confusion for Barcelona.

How can one speak of "unknown reasons" when on the surface there are several reasons why this transition was unprofitable for De Jong? Debts that Barcelona owe him + demotion in class (I'm a United fan, but now moving from Barcelona to United that doesn't even play in the Champions League is a demotion in class) + his girlfriend who prefers Spain.

De Jong is playing very well right now. I think the reason why he didn't leave Barca was because of his love. This could be an expression of his love for Barcelona. Also, if he goes to Manchester United at this point, it will take him a long time to adapt and there are doubts whether he can play in the first XI. These are my personal opinions.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 17, 2022, 08:52:05 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 17, 2022, 08:24:36 AM

Apparently you did not follow this story well, since in the end the transition did not take place only because of De Jong's decision to stay in Barcelona. Barcelona would have been happy to sell him (and be free of a huge salary obligation) and United to buy him, but De Jong himself didn't want to go to a club that didn't play in the Champions League plus his girlfriend was against leaving Barcelona for England.

The speculation that occurred on De Jong transfers was full of controversy and also took a lot of time, Barcelona had actually agreed on De Jong move to Manchester United but reportedly De Jong actually rejected the move for unknown reasons, but Barcelona reportedly has a debt to De Jong made it possible for De Jong to intervene in Barcelona decision so that the agreement with Manchester united was canceled at this time, reportedly also De Jong did not want a move and also did not want to cut his salary so this caused confusion for Barcelona.

How can one speak of "unknown reasons" when on the surface there are several reasons why this transition was unprofitable for De Jong? Debts that Barcelona owe him + demotion in class (I'm a United fan, but now moving from Barcelona to United that doesn't even play in the Champions League is a demotion in class) + his girlfriend who prefers Spain.

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Dortmund would do their best to keep Bellingham in the team. After losing Haaland they can't afford losing another huge talent as well. At least they would like to keep him until finding a replacement for him. But it wouldn't be an easy task to do as Bellingham is a very talented player. I wonder what he thinks about his future now. Dortmund are having a good run in the Bundesliga now actually. If they somehow manage to become the champions they might have a bigger chance to convince Bellingham to stay.

I'm not sure Dortmund will try to keep Bellingham if a big offer comes along. We have often seen Dortmund just bluffing will not sell its star players,
but in fact we see in the end Dortmund always sell the star players it has. In fact, if Dortmund could maintain the star players they have, they should
have been able to end Bayern's dominance long ago. Jadon Sancho and Erling Haaland are the latest examples of being sold by Dortmund to make money,
so I'm not sure Dortmund can keep Jude Bellingham, my prediction is Bellingham will move to another club next year.

Moreover, Bellingham's performance has been extraordinary this season with Dortmund. So for sure some teams who are interested in Bellingham will
try to buy Bellingham from Dortmund. I also doubt that Bellingham will stay if Dortmund can even win the Bundesliga trophy, because a big club that
wants Bellingham will offer Bellingham a higher salary than he received at Dortmund.

In general, Dortmund is not a club that will retain players if they get a good offer, regardless of how important the player is to the team. Therefore, I do not believe that Jude Bellingham will be kept on the team if the offer is good enough to sell him.

Furthermore, if we look at things from the perspective of the player, we will also see that, it is better for him if he actually decides to leave Dortmund. There does not seem to be a bright future for any potential youngsters. It is easy just to look at Marco Reus and say that he has made a bad decision. Thus, I really do not believe the player will also be able to stay at Dortmund in the future. There is no doubt in my mind that Dortmund will not be able to keep the player if a good offer is made to them.

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Quote from: Masplanc on September 18, 2022, 09:01:50 AM

Barcelona can compete very well with Real Madrid, Barcelona have been consistent from day one of laliga. The title is for Barcelona this season. Barcelona has really wotk hard I think this season is for them and I can see in their performance. Barcelona have more goals than real madrid.

Being champions at the end of the season is not a matter of how many goals are scored but how consistent they are.
The competition is still going on even though you seem confident right now but don't forget the current table. They are still not safe because Madrid still have one game left and if they win against Atletico, Barcelona's temporary position will be taken back.

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What do you guys think about La Liga, Is it possible for Barcelona to keep up with Real Madrid in the title race?

Yeah and why not? In la liga it's about the consistenly to win any match. In la liga it's not about which team that can win against each other but consistent to get full points will become a key to win in this league. I meant if you must also understand the main thing from any team in the champion league is different compared with la liga. Even small club that can become consistent to win any match can also become a winner. Barcelona will be able to compete with real madrid for la liga

Barcelona can compete very well with Real Madrid, Barcelona have been consistent from day one of laliga. The title is for Barcelona this season. Barcelona has really wotk hard I think this season is for them and I can see in their performance. Barcelona have more goals than real madrid.

Lol are you barcelona's fan? We are still very far from the end of season. Real madrid is far superios. This team rarely lose unlike barcelona which was losing against bayern munich. In my opinion if the winner can be determine once we will be very close to the end of season. The competition between both are very strict at this moment. There's no reason to take a conclusion even when we have not yet face the end of season. You are taking an early decision. Any team has the same chance to win. The competition was not only real madrid and barcelona. barcelona can't even win against bayern and you are actualy joking if it can win la liga

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Quote from: X-ray on September 17, 2022, 11:59:53 PM

Quote from: Qasmullaz on September 17, 2022, 03:24:30 PM

What do you guys think about La Liga, Is it possible for Barcelona to keep up with Real Madrid in the title race?

Yeah and why not? In la liga it's about the consistenly to win any match. In la liga it's not about which team that can win against each other but consistent to get full points will become a key to win in this league. I meant if you must also understand the main thing from any team in the champion league is different compared with la liga. Even small club that can become consistent to win any match can also become a winner. Barcelona will be able to compete with real madrid for la liga

Barcelona can compete very well with Real Madrid, Barcelona have been consistent from day one of laliga. The title is for Barcelona this season. Barcelona has really wotk hard I think this season is for them and I can see in their performance. Barcelona have more goals than real madrid.

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Quote from: Sterbens on September 18, 2022, 03:52:14 AM

Quote from: X-ray on September 17, 2022, 11:59:53 PM

Quote from: Qasmullaz on September 17, 2022, 03:24:30 PM

What do you guys think about La Liga, Is it possible for Barcelona to keep up with Real Madrid in the title race?

Yeah and why not? In la liga it's about the consistenly to win any match. In la liga it's not about which team that can win against each other but consistent to get full points will become a key to win in this league. I meant if you must also understand the main thing from any team in the champion league is different compared with la liga. Even small club that can become consistent to win any match can also become a winner. Barcelona will be able to compete with real madrid for la liga

Talking about that, let's look at the statistical data and also the standings table. Now Barcelona are top of the table with a point adrift of Real Madrid who still have one game left this week against Atletico Madrid. I think we can see how strong Barcelona is now. So if the question is can Barcelona compete with Real Madrid? The answer is yes.

Barcelona massive transfer made the strength in the squad re-formed, Lewandowski, Raphinha and Kounde have managed to bring Barcelona back to compete with Real Madrid. Since his arrival to Barcelona, Lewandowski has scored 11 goals in all competitions played. The return of Barcelona with a solid new force on all fronts will give Real Madrid competition for the La Liga title. The big changes made by Barcelona in their squad must be watched out for by Real Madrid because they could be defeated by Barcelona in the El Clasico match.

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