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Quote from: snipie on August 09, 2022, 02:48:21 PM

The problem of Werner is the amount of missed chances in front of the goalie that is quite big and one of the worst in EPL if I am not mistaken. It is like 0.3 rate?
Since Chelsea found that unacceptable, then he was pushed out of the club. Obviously that doesn't mean that he doesn't help the club but he needs to move forward, or backward exactly, to his ancient club. Leipzig isn't in its best shape, he might help them this season.

I agree with you on this but certain things affected Werner which I believe made him miss a lot of goal-scoring chances in most of the games he played for Chelsea. Warner was on fire when he was playing in the German league for his then club Leipzig coming to England and playing for Chelsea in the English premier league he is new to affect his performance because he was new to the team's pattern of play and he was under pressure too because everyone in the club was depending on him as the Savior of the team based on his goalscoring record in Germany. The way he was abandoned by the club says a lot about how he has been seen as a player with little or no contribution to the team but I believe if he finally goes back to his former club, he will have more playing time and his self-confidence will be back again.

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It seems like Manchester United have ended their attempt to sign Marko Arnautovic. I believe there have been some internal discussions and threats from their fans about this particular deal. I think the voice of their fans ware heard, Good thing though but they must now back Ten Hag. After what happened against Brighton, they’re in desperate need of good quality options.

Manchester United's performance against Brighton was a complete mess. The defense was weak, the striker's connection with the midfielders was not good. Ten Hag must first resolve the internal problems of the party. Ronaldo is with Manchester United against his will. Ten Hag should find an alternative to Ronaldo. However, I would be happy if Manchester United qualified for the Champions League. But this is also very difficult for them.

If the internal problems will not be solved very soon. This may become another disaster for the manchester united. I see that how internal problem was affecting the team so much. The worst case is if MU may face another lose again after against brighton. In another case, so many team in EPL have been starting to build their own dream team and try to be on fire. The club like Mcity, arsenal, and chelsea. finding alternative for ronaldo will not solve the problem.
There must be a lot of rotation and some bad players must not be used

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 09, 2022, 06:35:53 PM

Werner is officially leaving Chelsea and rejoining his former club, RB Leipzig. It is clear that he has no future in Chelsea after Tuchel isn't happy with his performance. So, rejoining RB Leipzig is a wise decision, he will play regularly again and he will have full support/trust from RB Leipzig coach. Yep, he needs to play regularly to secure his position as the striker of German national team.

By the way, I don't think he failed to give a good contribution to Chelsea squad. Scoring 23 goals & delivering 21 assists are good contributions, but it still can't achieve the expectation of Tuchel or Chelsea management. Actually, he still has a chance to improve his performance if Tuchel gives him more chance and wants to motivate him as well.

Not too big an opportunity was given to Timo Werner by Tuchel at Chelsea. Prior to joining Chelsea, I was very attracted to him because of the speed and skill he had during his time at RB Leipzig.
Werner stats at Chelsea are also quite good even though his playing minutes are not as expected.
Chelsea's decision to sell Timo Werner to RB Leipzig after joining in 2020 in my opinion is a wrong thing. They should reconsider.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 09, 2022, 06:35:53 PM

Werner is officially leaving Chelsea and rejoining his former club, RB Leipzig. It is clear that he has no future in Chelsea after Tuchel isn't happy with his performance. So, rejoining RB Leipzig is a wise decision, he will play regularly again and he will have full support/trust from RB Leipzig coach. Yep, he needs to play regularly to secure his position as the striker of German national team.

By the way, I don't think he failed to give a good contribution to Chelsea squad. Scoring 23 goals & delivering 21 assists are good contributions, but it still can't achieve the expectation of Tuchel or Chelsea management. Actually, he still has a chance to improve his performance if Tuchel gives him more chance and wants to motivate him as well.

Unfortunately not many coaches are very patient to tell and support their players to continue to develop and give him enough playing time. The average coach wants players who are instant and have a direct impact on the goals the team wants to achieve, so if one of their flagship players fails then I'm sure the coach and team will find a replacement. It happened to Werner at Chelsea, he was a victim but it was good to keep possible good minutes at Leipzig.

I agree Werner didn't fail miserably at Chelsea, but he didn't get more chances. He is not able to compete with other strikers who have better goal statistics. Werner has made 56 appearances in the last 2 seasons in the Premier League and he only scored 6 goals and 8 assists in the 2020/2021 season in 35 appearances and 4 goals and 1 assist in the 2021/2022 season in 21 appearances. That's why Tuchel has no patience for him, he's decreasing instead of increasing.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 09, 2022, 05:04:30 PM

I heard Manchester United are about to bring Adrian Rabiot to England, is good news that United are entering the market after this weekend embarrassing result, but my fear is that is Rabiot what Manchester United needs, because he is coming to play the holding midfield role that Fred and mactominay plays and I don't think he is better than Fred and I believe rabiot can't give you 4 good performance consecutively so what's the essence for this panic buy.

I think that it's too early to say that if he was not even better than fred. New player can be a good player for the team or club. I can't deny that MU was panic buying this player. Im a bit surprised to see that if ten hat was also try to interfere rabiot's transer directly.
It's kinda different with all of transfer that already done before. It seems like the bad result against brighton has been forcing him to take his responsibility with the club.
Does someone agree if MU was panic buying?

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Quote from: borovichok on August 09, 2022, 05:04:30 PM

I heard Manchester United are about to bring Adrian Rabiot to England, is good news that United are entering the market after this weekend embarrassing result, but my fear is that is Rabiot what Manchester United needs, because he is coming to play the holding midfield role that Fred and mactominay plays and I don't think he is better than Fred and I believe rabiot can't give you 4 good performance consecutively so what's the essence for this panic buy.

If I were Ten Hag I will choose Rodriguez over Rabiot because he is a real defensive midfielder. Rabiot is a type like Matic which is often too forward and leaves the defense to be weak. but, if weren't want to gamble, better to recruit them both. Rodriguez is also not too expensive because of his contract over the next 2 years. He is also good on the national team which I think is suitable also for Martinez.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 09, 2022, 05:04:30 PM

I heard Manchester United are about to bring Adrian Rabiot to England, is good news that United are entering the market after this weekend embarrassing result, but my fear is that is Rabiot what Manchester United needs, because he is coming to play the holding midfield role that Fred and mactominay plays and I don't think he is better than Fred and I believe rabiot can't give you 4 good performance consecutively so what's the essence for this panic buy.

I don't think the plan to buy Rabiot is a panic plan. It's true that there are more players with more potential than Rabiot that Manchester United can get, but I'm sure their management has done due diligence on this plan.

FYI, apart from Adrien Rabiot, Manchester United are reportedly also interested in signing Guido Rodriguez from Real Betis.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 09, 2022, 05:04:30 PM

I heard Manchester United are about to bring Adrian Rabiot to England, is good news that United are entering the market after this weekend embarrassing result, but my fear is that is Rabiot what Manchester United needs, because he is coming to play the holding midfield role that Fred and mactominay plays and I don't think he is better than Fred and I believe rabiot can't give you 4 good performance consecutively so what's the essence for this panic buy.

This is my second time of hearing that the Juventus guy of a man isn't an upgrade on Fred and Mc Tommy. I have been wondering why I don't actually know the play method of the Rabiot though. It shows that he is not a class. The club called Manchester United should not be under pressure to sign a defensive midfielder and sign another average player to pill up the bench. I thought they said that Martinez can play 4, he should play 4 then and give Varane or Baily chance to join the defence. This might work till the club finds a better player to sign. My Tommy and Fred are not helping the club in any way.

To be the main 11 players, both Fred and Mc Tommy, I think they really don't deserve it and if you look at the first game it's really bad,
although currently Man United are working on signing a player for which there are many rumors that Rabiot will come but I don't see it as the right solution,
if that's true we'll see if Rabiot will fit into the Ten Hag scheme or not

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Quote from: bering on August 09, 2022, 02:29:29 AM

Rumour is Juventus already get Eintracht Frankfurt player Filip Kostic and reported both of teams has been deal and will finished the final detail about this transfer and Juventus have to spend 15 millions euro as a fee but i don't know Kostic is good recruitment or not because as forward player his goals records is not too impressive even last season he only score 4 goals from 31 matches in Bundesliga and i fear this could be panic buying from Juventus because Allegri want this player arrived to Juventus before Serie A matches started

The Kostic deal is already done now as the coach of Eintracht Frankfurt has confirmed this evening during the press conference of the european supercup final that Kostic will leave his club. To be honest i did not expect that Kostic would really leave Eintracht Frankfurt this season. I mean Frankfurt has one of the most loyal and euphoric fans of the planet and Kostic was one of their favorites.
I think this was a good deal by for Juve. Kostic had some impressive performances in the last few seasons and last year he even was awarded the player of the season award in the Europa League, which is not to bad in my opinion. Also he has way more assists than goals.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on August 09, 2022, 01:04:26 AM

Werner will return to Germany to undergo a medical and sign a contract to rejoin RB Leipzig, Werner return to RB Leipzig is a potential destination, Leipzig agreed to take Werner back on a permanent basis after two years of his move to Chelsea. Warner is considered to have failed to make a good contribution to Chelsea after a disappointing performance by scoring 23 goals and 21 assists in 89 appearances in all competitions.
Werner has agreed to a substantial pay cut in order to get playing time for another team, he must develop his potential by guaranteeing regular appearances with a new club in preparation for the World Cup later this year.

Werner is officially leaving Chelsea and rejoining his former club, RB Leipzig. It is clear that he has no future in Chelsea after Tuchel isn't happy with his performance. So, rejoining RB Leipzig is a wise decision, he will play regularly again and he will have full support/trust from RB Leipzig coach. Yep, he needs to play regularly to secure his position as the striker of German national team.

By the way, I don't think he failed to give a good contribution to Chelsea squad. Scoring 23 goals & delivering 21 assists are good contributions, but it still can't achieve the expectation of Tuchel or Chelsea management. Actually, he still has a chance to improve his performance if Tuchel gives him more chance and wants to motivate him as well.

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According to a news report Timo Werner has completed a permanent move and return to his former club RB Leipzig after spending two seasons with Chelsea he had 89 appearances and scored 23 goals for the club, Timo Werner is a sharp attacker who runs in between their opponents defenders with pace thus always play very well for the club, though he usually miss a lot of scoring chances, however he helped the club to win UCL as well reaching semifinals last season, he had paid his dues for the club, his return to his former club will guarantee him a regular playing time so as to get a call up to their national team for the upcoming World Cup.
Link: https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfers/story/4716364/timo-werner-returns-to-rb-leipzig-from-chelsea-in-deal-worth-up-to-30m?platform=amp

The problem of Werner is the amount of missed chances in front of the goalie that is quite big and one of the worst in EPL if I am not mistaken. It is like 0.3 rate?
Since Chelsea found that unacceptable, then he was pushed out of the club. Obviously that doesn't mean that he doesn't help the club but he needs to move forward, or backward exactly, to his ancient club. Leipzig isn't in its best shape, he might help them this season..

I can only emphasize what you said. His scoring ability was only good when he played for Leipzig. Even in the national team it was sometimes outrageous to see miss him 10000% chances. When I watched games from the German national team I sometimes couldn't trust my eyes how insanely bad he was at scoring when he was alone in front of the goalkeeper. It is as if he was missing concentration and also instinct.

He might find the right conditions now to thrive once more in Leipzig. It is not as if he doesn't have the quality, but in the EPL it was also again his ability to score that ultimately put him on the bench pretty frequently. Given how much he earned there and what was expected from him, one can say that he failed in England.

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They’re rumors linking Arsenal and Sandro Tonali. It does look like Arsenal want Sandro Tonali. And AC Milan and Arsenal have met to discuss the player. He’s absolutely a crucial player to Milan. He’s pure class, shows maturity beyond the years, is an absolute midfield metronome. In fact he's the heart of everything at Milan. I don’t really see Arsenal getting Tonali. An incredible midfielder, very dynamic, good energy, strong defensive awareness and would be perfect at the base of their midfield. With the way the transfers have been unpredictable this summer, anything can happen.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/19458474/arsenal-sandro-tonali-ac-milan-transfer

I also think that £46.4 million is bound to be too much for them to turn down. I certainly don’t think this player is worth that much, to be honest. But when Arsenal need Sandro Tonali and they also can afford the money, why wouldn’t they opt for that transfer? The problem is, he is also an important player for Milan right now. So it will be difficult for Milan to find a way to let this player go. AC Milan already has a squad that is not that effective, especially when they will be defending the title. So I find it really unlikely that they will let Sandro Tonali go. And if they are actually thinking about it, I suppose they might as well get a huge price for him."

Although Arsenal performed satisfactorily when playing in the Premier League's opening 2022/2023 season, it seems Arteta is still not satisfied with
the existing squad. Even though Arsenal have brought in many new players, Arteta still needs a midfielder to be paired with Thomas Partey.
Then Sandro Tonali emerged as the most ideal choice, especially since Tonali's performance continues to improve with AC Milan. Tonali is AC Milan's
key player, so it won't be easy for Arsenal to get Tonali, especially since AC Milan has lost Franck Kessie. After all, AC Milan will want a very high price
if Arsenal really want to buy Tonali, so I doubt Arsenal can get Tonali. If Arsenal really need a midfielder, when in fact the best choice is Youri Tielemans,
I'm sure Leicester won't charge too much, because Tielemans only has one year left on his contract.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 09, 2022, 05:04:30 PM

I heard Manchester United are about to bring Adrian Rabiot to England, is good news that United are entering the market after this weekend embarrassing result, but my fear is that is Rabiot what Manchester United needs, because he is coming to play the holding midfield role that Fred and mactominay plays and I don't think he is better than Fred and I believe rabiot can't give you 4 good performance consecutively so what's the essence for this panic buy.

This is my second time of hearing that the Juventus guy of a man isn't an upgrade on Fred and Mc Tommy. I have been wondering why I don't actually know the play method of the Rabiot though. It shows that he is not a class. The club called Manchester United should not be under pressure to sign a defensive midfielder and sign another average player to pill up the bench. I thought they said that Martinez can play 4, he should play 4 then and give Varane or Baily chance to join the defence. This might work till the club finds a better player to sign. My Tommy and Fred are not helping the club in any way.

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I heard Manchester United are about to bring Adrian Rabiot to England, is good news that United are entering the market after this weekend embarrassing result, but my fear is that is Rabiot what Manchester United needs, because he is coming to play the holding midfield role that Fred and mactominay plays and I don't think he is better than Fred and I believe rabiot can't give you 4 good performance consecutively so what's the essence for this panic buy.

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Quote from: Igebotz on August 09, 2022, 03:35:30 PM

Broja is not coming from the Academy; he was on loan at Southampton last season and has been playing first team football for some time now.

You're not wrong either, Broja was on loan at Southampton last season and after his loan was over he returned to Chelsea U21/23. He was promoted to the Chelsea first team this season from Chelsea U21/23 and that was not from Southampton. If what I'm saying is wrong, then the information on Transfermarkt must be wrong too.

Chelsea are also rumored to want to get new players again before the transfer market this summer closes. But somehow they're going to do it considering there's a lot of players they've got so far. They had to end the hunt, Tuchel had to settle for a while.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on August 09, 2022, 02:35:43 PM

According to a news report Timo Werner has completed a permanent move and return to his former club RB Leipzig after spending two seasons with Chelsea he had 89 appearances and scored 23 goals for the club, Timo Werner is a sharp attacker who runs in between their opponents defenders with pace thus always play very well for the club, though he usually miss a lot of scoring chances, however he helped the club to win UCL as well reaching semifinals last season, he had paid his dues for the club, his return to his former club will guarantee him a regular playing time so as to get a call up to their national team for the upcoming World Cup.
Link: https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfers/story/4716364/timo-werner-returns-to-rb-leipzig-from-chelsea-in-deal-worth-up-to-30m?platform=amp

Armando Broja and Michy Batshuayi will replace Werner this season. Broja is a young player from Chelsea's U21 team, he's been promoted this season and maybe Tuchel will try him on some occasions. In addition, Tuchel may be able to play a formation without a center forward or better known as a false nine because of the wingers who have performed well so far.

Broja is not coming from the Academy; he was on loan at Southampton last season and has been playing first team football for some time now. Batshauayi is not a member of the Chelsea team; he was not registered, and his move to Everton is expected to happen soon.

Timo was a great guy who faced some challenges but never complained and played an important role in our last UCL victory..

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on August 09, 2022, 02:35:43 PM

According to a news report Timo Werner has completed a permanent move and return to his former club RB Leipzig after spending two seasons with Chelsea he had 89 appearances and scored 23 goals for the club, Timo Werner is a sharp attacker who runs in between their opponents defenders with pace thus always play very well for the club, though he usually miss a lot of scoring chances, however he helped the club to win UCL as well reaching semifinals last season, he had paid his dues for the club, his return to his former club will guarantee him a regular playing time so as to get a call up to their national team for the upcoming World Cup.
Link: https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfers/story/4716364/timo-werner-returns-to-rb-leipzig-from-chelsea-in-deal-worth-up-to-30m?platform=amp

After initially wanting to go on loan it seems that the deal to bring this player has worked for Leipzig.
Werner was a pretty good player when he was at Leipzig and he is now back there, I hope his performance will improve here again because when he was at Chelsea he couldn't improve and sometimes he always spent his time on the bench which made him frustrated and only made him worse.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on August 09, 2022, 02:35:43 PM

According to a news report Timo Werner has completed a permanent move and return to his former club RB Leipzig after spending two seasons with Chelsea he had 89 appearances and scored 23 goals for the club, Timo Werner is a sharp attacker who runs in between their opponents defenders with pace thus always play very well for the club, though he usually miss a lot of scoring chances, however he helped the club to win UCL as well reaching semifinals last season, he had paid his dues for the club, his return to his former club will guarantee him a regular playing time so as to get a call up to their national team for the upcoming World Cup.
Link: https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfers/story/4716364/timo-werner-returns-to-rb-leipzig-from-chelsea-in-deal-worth-up-to-30m?platform=amp

Chelsea are starting to balance their balance, which is to be expected because actually they already have some new players and I think Chelsea need to give them playing time. Werner does not have great stats as a striker at Chelsea, he only scored 10 goals and 13 assists in his 53 Premier League games. Chelsea need a goal machine, not Werner who misses a lot of chances in front of goal.

Armando Broja and Michy Batshuayi will replace Werner this season. Broja is a young player from Chelsea's U21 team, he's been promoted this season and maybe Tuchel will try him on some occasions. In addition, Tuchel may be able to play a formation without a center forward or better known as a false nine because of the wingers who have performed well so far.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on August 09, 2022, 02:35:43 PM

According to a news report Timo Werner has completed a permanent move and return to his former club RB Leipzig after spending two seasons with Chelsea he had 89 appearances and scored 23 goals for the club, Timo Werner is a sharp attacker who runs in between their opponents defenders with pace thus always play very well for the club, though he usually miss a lot of scoring chances, however he helped the club to win UCL as well reaching semifinals last season, he had paid his dues for the club, his return to his former club will guarantee him a regular playing time so as to get a call up to their national team for the upcoming World Cup.
Link: https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfers/story/4716364/timo-werner-returns-to-rb-leipzig-from-chelsea-in-deal-worth-up-to-30m?platform=amp

The problem of Werner is the amount of missed chances in front of the goalie that is quite big and one of the worst in EPL if I am not mistaken. It is like 0.3 rate?
Since Chelsea found that unacceptable, then he was pushed out of the club. Obviously that doesn't mean that he doesn't help the club but he needs to move forward, or backward exactly, to his ancient club. Leipzig isn't in its best shape, he might help them this season..

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According to a news report Timo Werner has completed a permanent move and return to his former club RB Leipzig after spending two seasons with Chelsea he had 89 appearances and scored 23 goals for the club, Timo Werner is a sharp attacker who runs in between their opponents defenders with pace thus always play very well for the club, though he usually miss a lot of scoring chances, however he helped the club to win UCL as well reaching semifinals last season, he had paid his dues for the club, his return to his former club will guarantee him a regular playing time so as to get a call up to their national team for the upcoming World Cup.
Link: https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfers/story/4716364/timo-werner-returns-to-rb-leipzig-from-chelsea-in-deal-worth-up-to-30m?platform=amp

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