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Quote from: cygan on December 11, 2020, 10:22:47 AM

now that would be a surprise if leipzig would make the race for DS Shocked

- besides, the transfer of Josko Gvardiol to red-bull leipzig this winter is also imminent

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Deal almost done?
Szoboszlai to join RB Leipzig? - Beat out Bayern, Real and Arsenal

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/news/view?id=375521

Seems so, also Sky. de is talking about it.
Last year he got a clause of 24 million... they tried to brought him but he said he wanted to stay 1 more year so there is no way to get him out.

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Mesut Özil is on the move but where? It looks like Italian side Juventus is rumored but his salary is a big problem. He hasn't played for months, he's 33 now. This might be his last big contract.
Fenerbahçe was also interested but I don't think they can pay that salary to him. Besides that, wage difference would be huge, that would destroy team chemistry.

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What a signing for Leipzig they have managed to sign future defender Josko Gvardiol aged 18 from Ukrainian club Dinamo Zagreb. But Josko Gvardiol will still play with Dinamo Zagreb until the end of the season and will strengthen Leipzig in the 2021/2022 season, after Dortmund has now transformed into a club that has disrupted Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga and they have begun to actively build a squad with a composition of young players. Maybe there will be some potential young players who will be recruited by Leipzig this season considering they are very consistent at this time sticking to Bayern's position and have a big chance in the Champions League this season, will Leipzig become a team that the Bundesliga club fans really hate this season with achievements that are very high. extraordinary?

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now that would be a surprise if leipzig would make the race for DS Shocked

- besides, the transfer of Josko Gvardiol to red-bull leipzig this winter is also imminent

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Deal almost done?
Szoboszlai to join RB Leipzig? - Beat out Bayern, Real and Arsenal

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/news/view?id=375521

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 08, 2020, 01:42:15 AM

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omg, IT'S HAPPENING!! let's gooo Shocked

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9026991/Paul-Pogbas-agent-Mino-Raiola-says-time-Manchester-United-OVER.html

Frabrizio Romano's tweet in case you don't want to give the infamous Dailymail more clicks and views lol https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1335970068002430979

Well, speculation time: where is he going to go next? odds in the bookies went live. Skybet have Real Madrid @5 odds, Juve @9 odds and then PSG at 11.00. We'll get better odds as we get closer to the transfer window

Told you long time ago he was not a player of Manchester anymore.

To me is only a race between Juve and Real, Juventus cold offer an exchange with Dybala.

@coinlocket$ If I were the coach then I would make Pogba sit on the bench or make him play with the reserves, but since Ole is the coach I’m pretty sure that he’ll play Pogba like nothing has happened. Furthermore I feel that Ole is too soft on Pogba and that’s why his agent can speak against the club, anytime he wants too, but I’m sincerely hoping that Ole will finally decide that he needs to ruthless and drop Pogba from the squad.

I think Pogba not get good position under Ole as coach for Manchester United and he always in front of defender exactly Pogba become most superior when behind from forward, so this why make Pogba do not happy with Manchester United and exactly is not good proffessional for player and become bad reputation for club. I think he will spend time with Manchester United on the bench because he made bad thing for Manchester United during Manchester always get bad result after not pass to knock out group from champion league.

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Quote from: DIA7 on December 10, 2020, 05:45:55 PM

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Pogba if he came at a reasonable price Maybe an excellent deepen Madrid squad if Real provided guarantees for him and His salary was reasonable they might get him and Zidane will be able to unlock Pogba tge version of Juventus so everything is possible.

income reduced since the pandemic situation. I believe Bale was on loan due to balancing the cash flow of players' salaries.
most likely Pogba won't be signed in this situation.

Quote from: arallmuus on December 10, 2020, 05:53:59 PM

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The fact is, he cant adapt well in Premier League and most people including Manchester United misjudged his performances.
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He is good individually, but not so good on the field and off the field.
He played better when Ibra still in United. because no one is a star in front of God. Grin

United paid excessively just because he can do the DAB pose. Grin

Pogba and Lingard are celebrities. Glad that Rashford not really infected by them despite their closeness.

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Quote from: DIA7 on December 10, 2020, 05:45:55 PM

Pogba Juve presented the best version of him.
Maybe in Manchester with the conditions being presented in the club and long leisure period could not make Pogba to submit something and expose him to media pressure.

Real could give him a chance But Perez will not forget that Pogba grown up up on Madrid when he asked for them Now the deal may be concluded with the Real in on it with Zidane's support Who may succeed in persuading Perez.
Pogba if he came at a reasonable price Maybe an excellent deepen Madrid squad if Real provided guarantees for him and His salary was reasonable they might get him and Zidane will be able to unlock Pogba tge version of Juventus so everything is possible.

Don't Real Madrid already have Toni Kross in "Pogba's Position" ?

If Pogba will end to Real Madrid what will be the midfield of Real Madrid?

Kross Pogba
Casemiro

Seems not well sorted IMHO.

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Quote from: DIA7 on December 10, 2020, 05:45:55 PM

Pogba Juve presented the best version of him.
Maybe in Manchester with the conditions being presented in the club and long leisure period could not make Pogba to submit something and expose him to media pressure.

Its a silly assumption. Pogba is nothing more than a great player in Juventus but because of the huge transfer from Juventus, he now think that he is a superstar and that kind of attitude from him prevented him to give his best effort. He may think that he is one of the best player in Serie A but in Premier League, everything would be different

The fact is, he cant adapt well in Premier League and most people including Manchester United misjudged his performances. You cant just give your 80% in Premier League and call it your best performances. If he cant is not passionate enough to play then he wont have his spot any longer in Manchester United ( and that is probably the reason why Bruno Fernandez made the highlights most of the time despite everyone knows that Bruno individual skill is probably well below Pogba )

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Pogba Juve presented the best version of him.
Maybe in Manchester with the conditions being presented in the club and long leisure period could not make Pogba to submit something and expose him to media pressure.

Real could give him a chance But Perez will not forget that Pogba grown up up on Madrid when he asked for them Now the deal may be concluded with the Real in on it with Zidane's support Who may succeed in persuading Perez.
Pogba if he came at a reasonable price Maybe an excellent deepen Madrid squad if Real provided guarantees for him and His salary was reasonable they might get him and Zidane will be able to unlock Pogba tge version of Juventus so everything is possible.

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Some rumors about Pogba. Romeo Agresti is one of the most trusted if not the most trusted about Juventus transfers TIER A++++++

Source: https://twitter.com/ForzaJuveEN/status/1337083311282417671

Source: https://twitter.com/ForzaJuveEN/status/1337083572105129987

The path is traked lets see if it evovles, the rumor Dybala-Pogba was around mid November according the insiders.

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Quote from: ampere on December 10, 2020, 06:47:27 AM

Quote from: DeathAngel on December 09, 2020, 12:46:02 PM

I’m sure Pogba would be very happy to join Juventus but if Dybala joining Man Utd is a condition of the deal going through then there might be a problem. Why would Dybala want to join Man Utd at this time? They don’t compete for the PL or CL at this point. I think Dybala can do better.

The truth is Dybala is not good enough to start for any team; be it Juventus or Manchester united; due to his lackluster performances and also multiple injuries. The most important thing though is that Manchester United will not entertain any meagre offers for Paul Pogba; its either you pay the funds for pogba; or wait for his contract to expire. Dybala should focus on his football at the moment.

There is news of a player bartering between Manchester United and Juventus, Paul Pogba feels uncomfortable at Manchester United and Pogba's agent Mino Raiola has reported how Pogba's condition is in Manchester, there is a desire for Juventus to bring Pogba back and sell Dybala to Manchester United, especially the season. Up front Pogba will be united as a free transfer player and it is profitable for Mnachester United to sell the current Pogba.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on December 09, 2020, 12:46:02 PM

I’m sure Pogba would be very happy to join Juventus but if Dybala joining Man Utd is a condition of the deal going through then there might be a problem. Why would Dybala want to join Man Utd at this time? They don’t compete for the PL or CL at this point. I think Dybala can do better.

The truth is Dybala is not good enough to start for any team; be it Juventus or Manchester united; due to his lackluster performances and also multiple injuries. The most important thing though is that Manchester United will not entertain any meagre offers for Paul Pogba; its either you pay the funds for pogba; or wait for his contract to expire. Dybala should focus on his football at the moment.

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Quote from: AndySt on December 09, 2020, 05:56:06 PM

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If Dybala decided to join Man Utd is certainly for a reason which we may not understand but there chance that Pogba may not join either Juventus or Real Madrid due to something happening privately in the club which was exposed by Pogba manager and the club fans are advising the management to loan Pogba to Barton.

I'm not sure that Manchester United, in their current state of disrepair, can be a good option for a player like Dybala. I think David de Gea has already cursed the evil fate that prevented a move to Real Madrid a million times. After the great Ferguson stopped coaching, there is not even a glimpse of the great Manchester United who wrote the history of English football. Pogba feels this very well and wants to leave the club by all means.

I agreed with you but if Dybala decides to move to Manchester there's nothing we can do about it and for Pogba if he willing to leave the club, by all means, i think he ought to do it properly for the sake of old times, not the way his manager is causing negative affection from the Manchester United fans.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on December 09, 2020, 12:46:02 PM

I’m sure Pogba would be very happy to join Juventus but if Dybala joining Man Utd is a condition of the deal going through then there might be a problem. Why would Dybala want to join Man Utd at this time? They don’t compete for the PL or CL at this point. I think Dybala can do better.

I agree with you that Pogba would be happier if he could return to Juventus, because the Premier League is not for Pogba.
Pogba's typical play takes too long to control the ball, which slows down the distribution of the ball. Meanwhile, Manchester
United play with direct passing, so it is not suitable for Pogba's playing style. Therefore, Pogba's move could be the best solution
for both parties. Regarding Dybala, who might join Manchester United, there is a higher salary offer. That's the most logical
reason why Dybala wants to join Manchester United.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 09, 2020, 04:32:09 PM

If Dybala decided to join Man Utd is certainly for a reason which we may not understand but there chance that Pogba may not join either Juventus or Real Madrid due to something happening privately in the club which was exposed by Pogba manager and the club fans are advising the management to loan Pogba to Barton.

I'm not sure that Manchester United, in their current state of disrepair, can be a good option for a player like Dybala. I think David de Gea has already cursed the evil fate that prevented a move to Real Madrid a million times. After the great Ferguson stopped coaching, there is not even a glimpse of the great Manchester United who wrote the history of English football. Pogba feels this very well and wants to leave the club by all means.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on December 09, 2020, 12:46:02 PM

I’m sure Pogba would be very happy to join Juventus but if Dybala joining Man Utd is a condition of the deal going through then there might be a problem. Why would Dybala want to join Man Utd at this time? They don’t compete for the PL or CL at this point. I think Dybala can do better.

If Dybala decided to join Man Utd is certainly for a reason which we may not understand but there chance that Pogba may not join either Juventus or Real Madrid due to something happening privately in the club which was exposed by Pogba manager and the club fans are advising the management to loan Pogba to Barton.

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I’m sure Pogba would be very happy to join Juventus but if Dybala joining Man Utd is a condition of the deal going through then there might be a problem. Why would Dybala want to join Man Utd at this time? They don’t compete for the PL or CL at this point. I think Dybala can do better.

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Dybala worths a lot more than Pogba to me honestly, depends on what Juventus thinks obviously but if I were to make a trade between these two players, I would have asked for a lot more than just Pogba, probably asked for another decent level player if I can, if not I would at least ask for a big money kick as well.

Pogba wants out as well, I am sure dybala and pirlo may not be greatest of friends but there are no talks about dybala leaving any time soon at all, which means Juventus has the upper hand here, while Pogba wants out means lower price tag for him, dybala not leaving anytime soon makes him even more worthy.

I would say pogba + 20 million would be the deal for dybala if you ask me, that would make sense for Juventus because they could cover salary of pogba for few years with it.

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hmph..

Quote from: Juggy777 on December 09, 2020, 05:18:08 AM

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hence let’s hope that this swap deal goes ahead.

If it is true that Juventus brought in Pogba, Dybala could be included in this transfer package. We know, Dybala has been targeted by MU in 2019, but at that time Juventus still needed Dybala and he also wants to stay in Juventus, now Pirlo and Dybala relationship is not good, maybe this is the right time for Juventus to release Dybala and bring Pogba back.

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Quote from: Pmalek on December 09, 2020, 05:13:11 AM

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They can exchange him with Pogba, and it will a 0 cost operation.

He was a different player from us and a lot in the head of a player is influenced by the ambient.

Just look at Morata, mediocre player with Chelsea if I remember correctly and with Atletico, and now with us is a Top player, the best number 9 in series A after Lukaku.

I think it would be a mistake to let Dybala go based on the bad performances he is showing in this season alone. Players like Berna have been showing nothing but bad performances ever since they arrived, and they are still here undeservedly. Dybala has been instrumental in the past few years and that shouldn't be forgotten. He did have COVID, so maybe that left a bigger mark on him both physically and mentally, than what we know.

I am not sure how interested Pogba is to bust his ass, sweet, and bleed on the pitch. That's what the team needs. Not another mediocre player waiting for the day the salaries are paid. Juve performances like the one last night against Barcelona have become a rarity, but they should be a must.

@Pmalek the biggest factor you’re ignoring is Pirlo who’s Juventus head coach, and who’s also played alongside Pogba, and therefore he knows Pogba very well and will be able to extract the best out of him. Furthermore Dybala is looking frustrated at Juventus, and a change of scenery will help him revitalise his career, hence let’s hope that this swap deal goes ahead.

Sources:

https://www.juvefc.com/andrea-pirlo-dreams-of-paul-pogba-returning-to-juventus/

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/juventus-manager-andrea-pirlo-reveals-conversations-angry-bianconeri-superstar-paulo-dybala-amidst-growing-unrest

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