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Quote from: examplens on August 22, 2019, 04:15:58 AM

Bale + Navas + James + 100mil? is Neymar really worth that much?
nevertheless, I do not believe that they want to move to PSG and Ligue 1. I do not want to offend anyone, but I think this is not the league for top players. Probably because of that Neymar wants to leave them.

Yes if you don't need these players and no one want to take them from you.

If real gives players that PSG wants the price will go down.

Nobody wants Bale and James for a reason.

Agree here, if I were Thomas Tuchel or any other PSG-representative I would be happy with Navas + 1x0.000.000 € but getting James and Bale into the squad...? Not even Bayern decided to go the "easy way" (activating the buy-clause for James, even though it was "laughable low in 40Mio-area), instead they did try signing several others for that position.

Getting James+Bale into a squad will be quite a though task (not to speak about their salaries...) so I feel that this deal, even though it sounds kind of interesting, isn´t interesting to PSG at all.

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Quote from: examplens on August 22, 2019, 04:15:58 AM

Bale + Navas + James + 100mil? is Neymar really worth that much?
nevertheless, I do not believe that they want to move to PSG and Ligue 1. I do not want to offend anyone, but I think this is not the league for top players. Probably because of that Neymar wants to leave them.

Yes if you don't need these players and no one want to take them from you.

If real gives players that PSG wants the price will go down.

Nobody wants Bale and James for a reason.

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Quote from: Trofo on August 22, 2019, 12:26:52 PM

Mandzukic is a rare breed of player. He is a fighter in every possible meaning of that word. He relishes a battle for first team positions while most other players start to be unhappy and wait for the position to open up for them. He has been in second or third attacking option at the beginning of every season in Juve and Bayern and somehow manage to battle his position to the top of pecking order while getting most of the supporters on his side as well.

He is not getting any younger so easier league and guaranteed starting spot would probably be safer option but I somehow doubt he will choose the easy way.

Compare the record of Mandzukic to Higuan for the past 4 seasons, you will understand that Mandzulic is just over rated and age is not on his side. He shouldn't be top striker for any competitive top club at his stage in his career.

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Quote from: rachman mahesa on August 22, 2019, 09:41:49 AM

Quote from: Naida_BR on August 22, 2019, 06:29:56 AM

I think they do want to sell him

From the beginning the transfer window opened, PSG had intended to sell Neymar.

Quote from: Naida_BR on August 22, 2019, 06:29:56 AM

Probably they reject the offers because they want to get more from transferring him.

In fact PSG does not want to suffer losses when selling neymar, because they buy from Barcelona is very expensive, of course PSG will sell at the same price or even more than that. Unfortunately, many clubs don't want to spend even more on neymar.

Yes, PSG doesn't want to keep Neymar, but only if there is tangible deal offered for him. However, I'm beginning to think PSG are probably just stalling in order to keep Neymar for at least a year more, That's if the Real Madrid offer offer James, Bale and Nava + 100 Million was to be true, I mean why in the world would they reject such offer just to keep player they no longer want.

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I believe Mandzukic is smart enough to know his line of play does not fit in with Barca strategy or else we'll see a replication of Barcelona been a bed of career-ending as some people you to say.
The player is still young though.

Did you say young? Mario mandzukic is 33 years old, that's in no way young if you ask me, he is way past his peak/prime.
Mandzukic to Barcelona would be an unwise move for the player as he'll see limited playing time, and I know he'll be briefed about that should the deal be on the verge of pulling through.

Mandzukic is definitely coming to be a backup and he better think twice if that's what he needs at this stage of his career, he'll eventually become surplus to requirement at some point and be moved on, just as Barca did you Boateng last season, a club with a lesser pedegree would fit Mario more.

Mandzukic is a rare breed of player. He is a fighter in every possible meaning of that word. He relishes a battle for first team positions while most other players start to be unhappy and wait for the position to open up for them. He has been in second or third attacking option at the beginning of every season in Juve and Bayern and somehow manage to battle his position to the top of pecking order while getting most of the supporters on his side as well.

He is not getting any younger so easier league and guaranteed starting spot would probably be safer option but I somehow doubt he will choose the easy way.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on August 21, 2019, 10:15:06 PM

Neymar transfer saga should end now as he wants to join only Barcelona, and PSG should respect his wishes and allow him to leave and then buy Dybala as his replacement. If he joins Barcelona then Suarez shall move to Juventus, but the question remains will Higuain go out on a loan again or he’ll just warm the bench for Juventus.

Sarri is a very rigid coach that may not want to try new players in the forward position, I wont be disappointing if Higuain starts ahead of Ronaldo, cause he held the record of 36 season goal under his supervision in previous years. Suarez wont be at Juventus after the transfer market, am very sure of that.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on August 22, 2019, 06:29:56 AM

I think they do want to sell him

From the beginning the transfer window opened, PSG had intended to sell Neymar.

Quote from: Naida_BR on August 22, 2019, 06:29:56 AM

Probably they reject the offers because they want to get more from transferring him.

In fact PSG does not want to suffer losses when selling neymar, because they buy from Barcelona is very expensive, of course PSG will sell at the same price or even more than that. Unfortunately, many clubs don't want to spend even more on neymar.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on August 22, 2019, 03:08:23 AM

I believe Mandzukic is smart enough to know his line of play does not fit in with Barca strategy or else we'll see a replication of Barcelona been a bed of career-ending as some people you to say.
The player is still young though.

Did you say young? Mario mandzukic is 33 years old, that's in no way young if you ask me, he is way past his peak/prime.
Mandzukic to Barcelona would be an unwise move for the player as he'll see limited playing time, and I know he'll be briefed about that should the deal be on the verge of pulling through.

Mandzukic is definitely coming to be a backup and he better think twice if that's what he needs at this stage of his career, he'll eventually become surplus to requirement at some point and be moved on, just as Barca did you Boateng last season, a club with a lesser pedegree would fit Mario more.

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Quote from: narcopop on August 22, 2019, 07:20:39 AM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on August 22, 2019, 07:09:43 AM

Do you think that Real Madrid won't make an offer for Neymar after all? I'm not saying that they actually made an offer but I wouldn't rule out that scenario in the future.

Real Madrid is Real Madrid. Florentino Perez is Florentino Perez. They will always fight for the right, possibility and pure pleasure of making a mess for Barcelona. That's just what they do. And vice versa.

If I had to bet a house on Neymar's future, I'd bet on Barcelona, though Real Madrid is - oh, the irony - absolutely a real option.

I didn't rule out the possibility of us making an offer (even several offers) for Neymar since Florentino is obsessed with him, I was talking about this particular offer that L'equipe mentioned (100M + 3 players). This bid is just plain absurd and almost comical, we're weakening our squad by letting 3 world-class players go in exchange for 1 (why would we do that?) while at the same time we're going to strenghten a potential Champions League rival (why would PSG reject this offer?). I just don't believe it.

This just in: Pedrerol (tier 1 for RM news) just said that no one from Real Madrid is in Paris to negotiate for Neymar^[1]. I think this is in response to the recent article from Marca that says that Real Madrid sent someone to talk to PSG about a possible deal^[2].

1. https://twitter.com/elchiringuitotv/status/1164526240675618818
2. https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2019/08/22/5d5e902ce2704eb8908b47c2.html

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on August 22, 2019, 07:09:43 AM

I think that's what it says on the cover of today's L'equipe newspaper:

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IMO that's the dumbest news I've heard in this transfer window. Does anyone actually believe that Real Madrid made that offer and, not just that, but that PSG rejected it? Really dissapointed on L'equipe for releasing such garbage article.

Do you think that Real Madrid won't make an offer for Neymar after all? I'm not saying that they actually made an offer but I wouldn't rule out that scenario in the future.

Real Madrid is Real Madrid. Florentino Perez is Florentino Perez. They will always fight for the right, possibility and pure pleasure of making a mess for Barcelona. That's just what they do. And vice versa.

If I had to bet a house on Neymar's future, I'd bet on Barcelona, though Real Madrid is - oh, the irony - absolutely a real option.

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Quote from: Harkorede on August 21, 2019, 09:22:21 PM

It's been reported that PSG had just reject Real Madrid's offer of €100M + 3 players.

I think that's what it says on the cover of today's L'equipe newspaper:

(source)

IMO that's the dumbest news I've heard in this transfer window. Does anyone actually believe that Real Madrid made that offer and, not just that, but that PSG rejected it? Really dissapointed on L'equipe for releasing such garbage article.

Some updates

• NKoudou (Tottenham) to Besiktas done deal. (source)

• Bayern 04 Leverkusen keen on Lovren (Liverpool).

• Inter and Napoli agreed terms for the transfer of Icardi, now it's up to the player (and his Master, Wanda Nara) whether to accept the move to Napoli or not. (source)

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Quote from: stigmacryptonight on August 22, 2019, 12:02:57 AM

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which makes me wonder whether they intend to sell Neymar or not?

This is the big question for neymar transfers.
Many clubs already want to get neymar on a transfer this summer, but PSG always reject the offer. So, I did think about it "is PSG serious about neymar transfers?" The basic reason PSG refused is usually related to the low prices offered by other clubs for neymar.
I continue to wait for the certainty of neymar transfer and where will I play for this season.

I think they do want to sell him
Probably they reject the offers because they want to get more from transferring him.
If they don't sell him in this transfer window, then his price is going to drop (as I think that it would be difficullt to let him play in the first line-up).

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Quote from: examplens on August 22, 2019, 04:15:58 AM

Bale + Navas + James + 100mil? is Neymar really worth that much?
nevertheless, I do not believe that they want to move to PSG and Ligue 1. I do not want to offend anyone, but I think this is not the league for top players. Probably because of that Neymar wants to leave them.

There are several reasons why PSG wants to sell Neymar, one of which is because of Neymar behavior.
Because neymar is a great player who makes him so valuable right now, by being offered 3 Real Madrid players + 100mil only rejected by PSG. That means Neyrmar is still very valuable, but on the other hand PSG wants neymar to move immediately.

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Quote from: stigmacryptonight on August 22, 2019, 12:02:57 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on August 21, 2019, 10:15:06 PM

which makes me wonder whether they intend to sell Neymar or not?

This is the big question for neymar transfers.
Many clubs already want to get neymar on a transfer this summer, but PSG always reject the offer. So, I did think about it "is PSG serious about neymar transfers?" The basic reason PSG refused is usually related to the low prices offered by other clubs for neymar.
I continue to wait for the certainty of neymar transfer and where will I play for this season.

PSG are very much interested in making Neymar leave since they know that's what his heart desires but from the looks of things, they want to recoup the entire money they spent on his buy-out clause when they purchased his services from Barcelona, they don't want any cash + player transaction which the likes of Barcelona and Real Madrid are currently offering.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on August 21, 2019, 10:15:06 PM

Neymar transfer saga should end now as he wants to join only Barcelona, and PSG should respect his wishes and allow him to leave and then buy Dybala as his replacement. If he joins Barcelona then Suarez shall move to Juventus, but the question remains will Higuain go out on a loan again or he’ll just warm the bench for Juventus. The new offer from Real Madrid was surreal as they offered Bale, Navas, and James plus 100 millions in cash but PSG has rejected this offer too which makes me wonder whether they intend to sell Neymar or not?

Bale + Navas + James + 100mil? is Neymar really worth that much?
nevertheless, I do not believe that they want to move to PSG and Ligue 1. I do not want to offend anyone, but I think this is not the league for top players. Probably because of that Neymar wants to leave them.

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I don't think Barca is a good fit for Mandzukic, he is very strong in the air but not the best technically and I don't see Barca changing their game and starting to cross the ball from flanks. But maybe they should consider changing game plan in the games where opposition parks the bus and standard tika taka football isn't enough to break them.

I believe Mandzukic is smart enough to know his line of play does not fit in with Barca strategy or else we'll see a replication of Barcelona been a bed of career-ending as some people you to say.
The player is still young though.

Only reason why Barcelona thinking about Mandjukic now is fact that they don't have enough offensive players right now or at least ready to play.
Mandjukic can be great "backup" plan or plan B but obviously he don't have chance to play much in Barcelona now or later.
Much better option for him is Bayern or Dortmund, in my opinion
He is not young any more so he should make wise decision now, where to go.

Bayern or Borussia would certainly be safer bet for him, he would play more there. He has a lot of experience in Bundesliga so there would be no need for adjustment, and his stats there are quiet good.In 110 games he played in Bundesliga he scored 53 goals and had 21 assist.
Another thing that would make his transfer to Bayern easier is fact that Kovac knows his qualities well , and how to use him the best.I got the impression that Borussia D. is really interested in him, but he is still considering his options.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on August 22, 2019, 03:08:23 AM

Quote from: Trofo on August 21, 2019, 09:33:58 AM

I don't think Barca is a good fit for Mandzukic, he is very strong in the air but not the best technically and I don't see Barca changing their game and starting to cross the ball from flanks. But maybe they should consider changing game plan in the games where opposition parks the bus and standard tika taka football isn't enough to break them.

I believe Mandzukic is smart enough to know his line of play does not fit in with Barca strategy or else we'll see a replication of Barcelona been a bed of career-ending as some people you to say.
The player is still young though.

Only reason why Barcelona thinking about Mandjukic now is fact that they don't have enough offensive players right now or at least ready to play.
Mandjukic can be great "backup" plan or plan B but obviously he don't have chance to play much in Barcelona now or later.
Much better option for him is Bayern or Dortmund, in my opinion
He is not young any more so he should make wise decision now, where to go.

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Quote from: Trofo on August 21, 2019, 09:33:58 AM

I don't think Barca is a good fit for Mandzukic, he is very strong in the air but not the best technically and I don't see Barca changing their game and starting to cross the ball from flanks. But maybe they should consider changing game plan in the games where opposition parks the bus and standard tika taka football isn't enough to break them.

I believe Mandzukic is smart enough to know his line of play does not fit in with Barca strategy or else we'll see a replication of Barcelona been a bed of career-ending as some people you to say.
The player is still young though.

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Quote from: stigmacryptonight on August 22, 2019, 12:02:57 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on August 21, 2019, 10:15:06 PM

which makes me wonder whether they intend to sell Neymar or not?

This is the big question for neymar transfers.
Many clubs already want to get neymar on a transfer this summer, but PSG always reject the offer. So, I did think about it "is PSG serious about neymar transfers?" The basic reason PSG refused is usually related to the low prices offered by other clubs for neymar.

I think Psg are guilty in the delay of this transfer, I wouldn't relate it to low prices at all, crazy offers have been put for Neymar already, even those involving two to three players as part of the deal, which I see no reason why the owners of Psg should reject such offers.

If Neymar doesn't eventually leave PSG, it'll be the fault of the PSG board, and Neymar would be a dejected figure in the dressing room, which would hamper his career progress. Even if he doesn't leave now, he must during the January transfer window.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on August 21, 2019, 10:15:06 PM

which makes me wonder whether they intend to sell Neymar or not?

This is the big question for neymar transfers.
Many clubs already want to get neymar on a transfer this summer, but PSG always reject the offer. So, I did think about it "is PSG serious about neymar transfers?" The basic reason PSG refused is usually related to the low prices offered by other clubs for neymar.
I continue to wait for the certainty of neymar transfer and where will I play for this season.

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