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After Barcelona reached an agreement with Xavi to continue working together next season, I began to doubt Xavi ability to bring Barcelona to compete in several different competitions. My doubts arose after seeing how Barcelona was destroyed by Girona for the second time this season. Apart from that, losing in two meetings with Real Madrid also indicated that Barcelona was not ready to compete with other strong teams. Barcelona direction of play will not change much as long as Xavi is still the coach, Barcelona playing pattern is very boring because they often play the ball for too long in the defensive area.

Barcelona must learn from the expertise of Inter Milan management in building the club to a level that is able to compete for the title. Inter is more focused on improving economic conditions first rather than forcing them to buy quality players. Inter Milan's success in winning the Scudetto this season and making it to the Champions League final last season must be taken into consideration by Barcelona if they want to win the La Liga and Champions League trophies again.

Currently, Barcelona is having deep trouble with finances which are surely need serious intention, but things are not favorable for them with this as they have no money for bringing new players which are now important with new players they can't compete for the top spots as Girona and Real Madrid destroy them in this season now its clear they have to settle things for the next season otherwise they have to face consequences.
No doubt Inter Milan is doing impressive work, and now they are at the top of the Serie A which is good strategy from the management other big clubs needs to follow them because things like these can bring better results for them in long run this is also helpful for the soccer which is facing too many challenges.
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Chelsea are ready to add to the ranks of wonderkids by launching a €55 million offer
for Palmeiras forward Estevao, who is regarded as one of the most promising players in world football.

https://www.footballtransfers.com/en/transfer-news/uk-premier-league/2024/05/chelsea-transfer-news-estevao-bid

Here you go again. another player who is being compared to the best player in the world before he is even 18. I think this actually causes the player to be under a lot of pressure from the start of his career. The way Chelsea is performing right now it is already not good. They are probably performing their worst at this time which at least I have not seen them doing in the last five or six years.

So even if he is a really good player, how he is going to perform when he goes to Chelsea is a big question for almost everyone. I think it is better if they do not put such a burden on any young player like that from such an early stage of his career. Let him actually show some good potential against big opponents and then I think we could say something like that. But we are definitely expecting good future for this kid


I watched some videos of Estevao on X yesterday. His videos were shared because he was in the spotlight. He has good technical capacity and good acceleration. I don't follow the Brazilian league closely, I haven't watched his matches. But he is a talented footballer. The Premier League is a very high-level league. I don't know if a 17-year-old who plays in the Brazilian League can suddenly play in the Premier League. I think it would be better for him if he is transferred on loan to facilitate his adaptation process. In the past, the French League and the Belgian League were good leagues for these things.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxsvKONJX0s

I understand why he is getting trolled and I understand why a lot of people are actually saying he is selfish or he is trash and even saying that he is not good enough for Liverpool. But at the end of the day, they forget to understand that he is still a very important player for Liverpool. without him, Liverpool is probably not going to be able to have the same level of success that they have in attacking. I think it is already almost certain that Liverpool will not be winning the English Premier League title this season. They are finishing probably on the third position at best. I think everyone expected a better performance from them. But it is what it is. What I want to say is that, at the end of the day the failure of a team is not because of only one player playing badly in a few matches. Mohamed Salah is still important in my opinion. But of course, other people may have a different opinion.


Your right about this mate, it socks that most people blame one person for the failure of an entire team, I know that Mohamed salah is quite a selfish player and loves to take all the glory to himself, and he even portrayed this attitude against mane when he was at Liverpool, there was this rumor that he played a role in the selling of mane but irrespective of that I still recognise that he is a good player and has lead the team to so many victories before, we can't expect expect to do everything cause he is the best player on the pitch, his teammates also need to support him too. But at the end of the day his character is his undoing and he must fix that.
If the allegations are true, Mo Salah is a more selfish player than I expected. After experiencing this problem with Mane, Mane was perhaps sent from the team. Salah is still playing at a high level in Liverpool, but if his selfishness continues, it will cause unrest within the team and the players may not be able to perform as required. I hope these allegations are not true or Salah has corrected himself on this issue.
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Your right about this mate, it socks that most people blame one person for the failure of an entire team, I know that Mohamed salah is quite a selfish player and loves to take all the glory to himself, and he even portrayed this attitude against mane when he was at Liverpool, there was this rumor that he played a role in the selling of mane but irrespective of that I still recognise that he is a good player and has lead the team to so many victories before, we can't expect expect to do everything cause he is the best player on the pitch, his teammates also need to support him too. But at the end of the day his character is his undoing and he must fix that.
Liverpool have the best squad to compete for the EPL title race but why are they not in the race this season? This is one of the worry question because it's getting clearer with our eyes. Mohammed Salah is not in form this season and we totally understands the fact about his incompetent performance and Jurgen Klopp failing the club in his last days ad headcoach for Liverpool. The Reds have recorded poor form this season and looks like they're only settling for just a title instead of craving for more.
Jurgen Klopp has been in charge of Liverpool for a long time, under this manager Liverpool have achieved many good results and won many tournaments but last season and this season this manager has become the most unsuccessful manager. Due to the team's poor performance last season, the team failed to qualify for the Champions League.

It was a huge setback for Jurgen Klopp as it was the first time Liverpool had failed to qualify for the Champions League and qualified for the Europa League. Liverpool fans may have accepted this result but at least they didn't want to accept it when Liverpool were knocked out in the quarter-finals of the Europa League by weaker opposition. At the time they were eliminated from the Europa League title race, the team still had a chance to win the Premier League title, but due to a series of poor performances, winning the Premier League title has now become a very difficult issue for Liverpool. 

Liverpool's performance is much weaker than Manchester City's and Arsenal's performance, so Manchester City and Arsenal have more priority to win the title this season.
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After Barcelona reached an agreement with Xavi to continue working together next season, I began to doubt Xavi ability to bring Barcelona to compete in several different competitions. My doubts arose after seeing how Barcelona was destroyed by Girona for the second time this season. Apart from that, losing in two meetings with Real Madrid also indicated that Barcelona was not ready to compete with other strong teams. Barcelona direction of play will not change much as long as Xavi is still the coach, Barcelona playing pattern is very boring because they often play the ball for too long in the defensive area.

Barcelona must learn from the expertise of Inter Milan management in building the club to a level that is able to compete for the title. Inter is more focused on improving economic conditions first rather than forcing them to buy quality players. Inter Milan's success in winning the Scudetto this season and making it to the Champions League final last season must be taken into consideration by Barcelona if they want to win the La Liga and Champions League trophies again.

It is true that they are not as good as in the past, where they were very difficult to beat, but don't forget that now they are still in a transition process where previously they performed even worse before Xavi came to become Barcelona coach. We also cannot ignore things related to management, such as club finances. Because we know that it is very difficult for them to maneuver when the transfer market is not there, in fact they often rely on free players to bring in. Not to mention that not everything Xavi needs can be fulfilled by management, so I can't blame Xavi completely.

Even if Barcelona throws out Xavi, is there a guarantee that the next coach will make them even better? There is no guarantee about that, it is even possible that the coach who comes in the future will not be as good as what Xavi has shown. Xavi is also not that bad in my opinion, last season they succeeded in becoming La Liga champions, and this season they are still in the top 3.
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Yeah and Thiago Silva actually played for Fluminense for a few years in the first times of his career. Brazil is where everything started for him and now he is going to be back in the squad of his old team. Maybe it would be emotional for him to return there after so many years. I think he would play for another season there as well and then retire.  Smiley



Now people started to link Erik ten Hag with Bayern Munich. If he really leaves then it would be possible of course. Bayern Munich continues to be rejected by the managers they are making an offer to. We really can't be confident about who their next manager will be. Erik ten Hag might also not be the one. Because Manchester United doesn't seem keen on parting ways with him yet.
Fluminense is Thiago Silva first club before he ventured in Europe so far, yes reportedly Silva has reached a verbal agreement with Fluminense to work together until 2026, leave as a talented player and return as one of the football stars Of course it was quite impressive for Silva when he returned to his boyhood club, I think although Silva will return to play for Fluminense next season it is of course difficult to say he will retire After 1 season with Fluminense later, because I think he will probably continue to extend his contract with Fluminense as a form of devotion to Fluminense so far.

Removing Tuchel and signing Ten Hag is not the right solution for Munich at the moment, indeed so far Munich has been rejected by some coaches to want to coach them next season, but I think there are many other coaches who may be more worthy of Munich than ten Hag, ten Hag performance at Manchester United so far is not better than Tuchel in Munich,  So when Munich bring Ten Hag to the Allianz Arena, it's like they bring back other rubbish after the rubbish is thrown away.
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Yeah and Thiago Silva actually played for Fluminense for a few years in the first times of his career. Brazil is where everything started for him and now he is going to be back in the squad of his old team. Maybe it would be emotional for him to return there after so many years. I think he would play for another season there as well and then retire.  Smiley
Thiago Silva return back to his country and joining Fuminense after his contract expiring with Chelsea, indeed get regular position in this season but both of Chelsea management not reach agreement deal for extending his contract one or two years later. Its more emotional return back to his old team have giving much contribution with his career, usually all players after leaving top European teams will join Saudi Pro League team or MLS League teams but Thiago Silva prefer for joining with his old team not interested yet actually has many offer from from Saudi Arabia clubs and MLS League clubs.

Now people started to link Erik ten Hag with Bayern Munich. If he really leaves then it would be possible of course. Bayern Munich continues to be rejected by the managers they are making an offer to. We really can't be confident about who their next manager will be. Erik ten Hag might also not be the one. Because Manchester United doesn't seem keen on parting ways with him yet.
Bayern Munich seems difficult reach agreement deal after rejecting by several manager, from Xabi Alonso, Nagelmass and Ralf Rangnick, few weeks left before competition ended, Bayern Munich not find or reach agreement become their manager for next season. Right now have been over with new manager candidate for Bayern Munich and interested to see who will replace Thomas Tuchel position?
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Your right about this mate, it socks that most people blame one person for the failure of an entire team, I know that Mohamed salah is quite a selfish player and loves to take all the glory to himself, and he even portrayed this attitude against mane when he was at Liverpool, there was this rumor that he played a role in the selling of mane but irrespective of that I still recognise that he is a good player and has lead the team to so many victories before, we can't expect expect to do everything cause he is the best player on the pitch, his teammates also need to support him too. But at the end of the day his character is his undoing and he must fix that.

Normally every player have their pattern of play as some will choose to create chance for teammates to get the glory of scoring while some others choose to be selfish and earn all the glory to themselves, Mohammed Salah may look like a greedy and selfish player in the eyes of some people due to the fact that most of their matches he always want to be in the score sheet instead of another but since he has been contributive to his team is not enough reason to criticize his play nature, moreover players like Cristiano Ronaldo also plays same pattern of always wanting to be the talk of every match that is why even in taking penalties he always want to be the penalty kick taker but since he is a big player no one will criticize him for being self centered and greedy in most cases but i just want to set the fact straight, every player have their various pattern of play but so far as they are helpful to the team it's okay.
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Chelsea are ready to add to the ranks of wonderkids by launching a €55 million offer
for Palmeiras forward Estevao, who is regarded as one of the most promising players in world football.

https://www.footballtransfers.com/en/transfer-news/uk-premier-league/2024/05/chelsea-transfer-news-estevao-bid

Here you go again. another player who is being compared to the best player in the world before he is even 18. I think this actually causes the player to be under a lot of pressure from the start of his career. The way Chelsea is performing right now it is already not good. They are probably performing their worst at this time which at least I have not seen them doing in the last five or six years.

So even if he is a really good player, how he is going to perform when he goes to Chelsea is a big question for almost everyone. I think it is better if they do not put such a burden on any young player like that from such an early stage of his career. Let him actually show some good potential against big opponents and then I think we could say something like that. But we are definitely expecting good future for this kid
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Godspeed to him anyways, in his new path he has decided to follow. Could that club be his boyhood club? It feels good to go back finally, I see he wants to finally settle down with the family.

Yeah and Thiago Silva actually played for Fluminense for a few years in the first times of his career. Brazil is where everything started for him and now he is going to be back in the squad of his old team. Maybe it would be emotional for him to return there after so many years. I think he would play for another season there as well and then retire.  Smiley



Now people started to link Erik ten Hag with Bayern Munich. If he really leaves then it would be possible of course. Bayern Munich continues to be rejected by the managers they are making an offer to. We really can't be confident about who their next manager will be. Erik ten Hag might also not be the one. Because Manchester United doesn't seem keen on parting ways with him yet.
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Liverpool have the best squad to compete for the EPL title race but why are they not in the race this season? This is one of the worry question because it's getting clearer with our eyes. Mohammed Salah is not in form this season and we totally understands the fact about his incompetent performance and Jurgen Klopp failing the club in his last days ad headcoach for Liverpool. The Reds have recorded poor form this season and looks like they're only settling for just a title instead of craving for more.
Liverpool initially participated in the race for the Premier League title at first but as the end of the season approached Liverpool increasingly lost their chances and are currently no longer competing in the race for the Premier League title with other strong rivals Manchester City and Arsenal, but despite Liverpool's failure in the title race In fact Liverpool has good players but their mentality is starting to be disturbed due to their defeat in the Europa League and in the Premier League Liverpool also made mistakes which further weakened the players' mentality, Jurgen Kloop also seems to have lost in managing the club in his last season maybe he is tired and wants to perform as it is even though it didn't win the Premier League and Europa League titles.

Mohammed Salah is experiencing a decline, perhaps due to the fact that he is getting older and affecting his stamina, he has performed well at Liverpool for many years and perhaps he is also tired of staying in the Premier League with increasingly tough competition, maybe if Jurgen Kloop leaves Liverpool it seems Mohammed Salah will also be sold by club management so it is possible that Liverpool will lose two great figures who have built the club's success, this is not the end of Salah's struggle. He can continue his career in another league that is not as competitive as the Premier League.
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According to The Sun, Nunez is on the radar at Camp Nou if Lewandowski becomes the victim of a squad clear out. By saving money on the veteran Poland international, Barcelona could have the resources to test Liverpool's resolve to keep Nunez. A big money sale could even boost the transfer budget available at Anfield as they look to shape a new-look side for incoming manager Arne Slot.
https://www.goal.com/en/lists/darwin-nunez-barcelona-shock-move-liverpool-replace-robert-lewandowski/blt09848606472ce6d3#csb74b1b7f24aed5c1

Another update is coming from Barcelona and the club is now being linked to recruit darwin nunez from liverpool as a replacement for lewandowski in the club. The blaugrana has identified Nunez as a potential replacement for Lewandowski but it's not yet clear waht's plan has prepared by barcelona for lewandowski. We know that Lewandowski's contract is still relatively long, but Barcelona appears willing to replace him with a new striker who is still capable of scoring as many goals as Lewandowski and yeah, nunez is not that bad but he can run so fast. Barcelona may need to prepare more than 100 millions to buy him out from liverpool.

It will be so damn good if nunez goes to the barcelona, but there may be an issue to occur. many people have expressed concerns about Barcelona's current financial situation caused by the club is still being banned from registering the new player due to the financial issue and this ban has not yet lifted from the club. I assumed that if Barcelona didn't have the money to buy him for Liverpool and it makes me curious where the heck barcelona get money to buy him from liverpool. Let's see what's gonna be barcelona's plan.

It's still unclear from Liverpool's perspective. I don't even see any rumors about Liverpool looking to sign a new striker to replace Nunez in their squad but lewandowski is still feeling so confidence if barcelona will not let him go. I strongly believe Nunez will agree to join Barcelona if he is able to do so.
Knowing that Klopp is about to leave the club and that now is the best time for Nunez to join Barcelona will be extremely beneficial to his career and barcleona can become a very good destination to continue his career as he is gonna able to participate in the el classico too.
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I just think that they are just making mo Salah the escape goat here, now thing's aren't going the way of Liverpool,  let's not forget that this particular player have been in Liverpool for a very long time and he has proven himself over and over again on how good and consistent he is, so all this him been a selfish player was never talk about them, so why now?

People that are trying to pin the blame on him are just funny too me, because if you remove the goals of mo Salah in this team, it's going to be very clear the higher importance of mo Salah in this team, and lastly, I think that the attacking play of Liverpool has declined a little bit because their firepower now is not as good as when they have the perfect three men in attack, which was Salah, mane and firmino, so in essence of all this is that, they should just let the guy to breath, because a tree cannot make a forest.
Too naive to blame one person because the failure in football should be the whole responsibility of the team because they are unable to work together not just relying on one person. Liverpool are also not in a big failure this season compared to last season because they managed to qualify for the Champions League. Mo Salah experienced a decline in performance this season and that happened because of many things and now other Liverpool strikers are also unable to achieve what Mo Salah has done even though they are still quite young and productive.

It is time for Mo to move wrong to another league because maybe the change of coach next season does not guarantee minutes of playing. Especially now that he is no longer so productive and in the English League many young players will develop rapidly every season. But blaming Mo Salah because failing to become a champion is the wrong thing because he himself was unable to give something better.
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After Barcelona reached an agreement with Xavi to continue working together next season, I began to doubt Xavi ability to bring Barcelona to compete in several different competitions. My doubts arose after seeing how Barcelona was destroyed by Girona for the second time this season. Apart from that, losing in two meetings with Real Madrid also indicated that Barcelona was not ready to compete with other strong teams. Barcelona direction of play will not change much as long as Xavi is still the coach, Barcelona playing pattern is very boring because they often play the ball for too long in the defensive area.

Barcelona must learn from the expertise of Inter Milan management in building the club to a level that is able to compete for the title. Inter is more focused on improving economic conditions first rather than forcing them to buy quality players. Inter Milan's success in winning the Scudetto this season and making it to the Champions League final last season must be taken into consideration by Barcelona if they want to win the La Liga and Champions League trophies again.
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Your right about this mate, it socks that most people blame one person for the failure of an entire team, I know that Mohamed salah is quite a selfish player and loves to take all the glory to himself, and he even portrayed this attitude against mane when he was at Liverpool, there was this rumor that he played a role in the selling of mane but irrespective of that I still recognise that he is a good player and has lead the team to so many victories before, we can't expect expect to do everything cause he is the best player on the pitch, his teammates also need to support him too. But at the end of the day his character is his undoing and he must fix that.
Liverpool have the best squad to compete for the EPL title race but why are they not in the race this season? This is one of the worry question because it's getting clearer with our eyes. Mohammed Salah is not in form this season and we totally understands the fact about his incompetent performance and Jurgen Klopp failing the club in his last days ad headcoach for Liverpool. The Reds have recorded poor form this season and looks like they're only settling for just a title instead of craving for more.

It means that even if they are not the best squad this time, but they are still a good squad. I still believe Manchester City has the best squad at the moment compared to the liverpool or even arsenal, as it has performed consistently in any season and owned so many premier league trophies consistently. No doubt that if city is best compared to the liverpool.  just because Liverpool is in the title race this season does not mean they have the best squad at this moment and is trongly disagree with it.
How could the best squad lose both the Europa League and the English Premier League at the same time? It demonstrates that while Liverpool has a good squad instead of best squad, it has not yet reached the best squad level for the season. Liveprool is still often doing bottle jobs in many games.

The good news is that Liverpool has decided to recruit Arne, who will be another Tenhag version of Liverpool and many people have been also paying their attention to him. I'm very pleased because Liverpool will suffer another setback next season and this is what we will see in the upcoming season. The decision to appoint Arne Slot as the next coach is incorrect but since it was liverpool's final decision and nothing can be done here.
I doubt he will be able to deliver like Klopp did for the club. Arne was an amateur coach who had poor results.

I'd rather sign conte or something else instead of him. Liverpool is not solving the problem; instead, it is adding to the club's problems.
This means that Liverpool will experience a significant decline next season. The Reds were only good in the early and mid-season. They forgot that the key was in the late season.
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Erik Tan Hag to Bayern Munich would be another season of disappointment for Bayern without a doubt, I am not saying that they are going to end up with a second place, or worse, because they are Bayern and they could build a squad that could potentially win the title even with ETH at the helm, even he may not be able to stop them from winning, but he would be a terrible manager candidate without a doubt, he has shown himself to be a terrible manager at United so far, even the substitute he does are usually wrong players that the game doesn't need at that moment or they are at the wrong time.

I believe that they should look for some other managers, it would not be smart decision to get him, it would definitely result badly for them.
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Clearly, Mo Salah would make a transfer to Saudi Arabia as an sure after the touchline spat he had with Klopp. Well,  Salah's future will be addressed and a conclusion gotten to, once sporting director Richard Hughes officially resumes in his new role at Anfield and after Jurgen Klopp's successor, which is expected to be Feyenoord boss Arne Slot - is appointed as the next coach of Liverpool.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxsvKONJX0s

I understand why he is getting trolled and I understand why a lot of people are actually saying he is selfish or he is trash and even saying that he is not good enough for Liverpool. But at the end of the day, they forget to understand that he is still a very important player for Liverpool. without him, Liverpool is probably not going to be able to have the same level of success that they have in attacking. I think it is already almost certain that Liverpool will not be winning the English Premier League title this season. They are finishing probably on the third position at best. I think everyone expected a better performance from them. But it is what it is. What I want to say is that, at the end of the day the failure of a team is not because of only one player playing badly in a few matches. Mohamed Salah is still important in my opinion. But of course, other people may have a different opinion.


Your right about this mate, it socks that most people blame one person for the failure of an entire team, I know that Mohamed salah is quite a selfish player and loves to take all the glory to himself, and he even portrayed this attitude against mane when he was at Liverpool, there was this rumor that he played a role in the selling of mane but irrespective of that I still recognise that he is a good player and has lead the team to so many victories before, we can't expect expect to do everything cause he is the best player on the pitch, his teammates also need to support him too. But at the end of the day his character is his undoing and he must fix that.

I just think that they are just making mo Salah the escape goat here, now thing's aren't going the way of Liverpool,  let's not forget that this particular player have been in Liverpool for a very long time and he has proven himself over and over again on how good and consistent he is, so all this him been a selfish player was never talk about them, so why now?

People that are trying to pin the blame on him are just funny too me, because if you remove the goals of mo Salah in this team, it's going to be very clear the higher importance of mo Salah in this team, and lastly, I think that the attacking play of Liverpool has declined a little bit because their firepower now is not as good as when they have the perfect three men in attack, which was Salah, mane and firmino, so in essence of all this is that, they should just let the guy to breath, because a tree cannot make a forest.
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Tuchel can be very good in Manchester United, ETH has failed.

Thomas Tuchel cannot be good for Manchester United. Manchester United fans should know what they ask for, they're just too desperate for success and they forget success doesn't come easily, quickly ( Even if it does, it won't last long ). Most of the things that last, has the slowest start.

And is this your own definition of failure? I don't know why y'all do this, can you bring up stats to say Erik Ten Hag has failed, are you also amongst those using a season to judge the bald headed Dutchman?

Can you bring up stats about your head coach Mikel Arteta and how many times he failed your club? You can't just come on here to say Erik Ten Hag has failed when your own manager failed all round the last three years as coach for Arsenal and is yet to win a major trophy with Arsenal.

That aside, can you go back, could you check your positions on the Premier League Table since Mikel Arteta was handed the job? No you won't, but you can just conclude and make conclusions that are not hundred percent sure.
Mikel Arteta's first season saw him as occupants of 8th position ,( With the help of Coronavirus your team got to win Fa Cup Competition and also gained a ticket for the European Europa League Competition ), Second season as occupants of  5th position on the Premier League Table, Third season as second runners and this season in God's hands.

So can you now tell me how Erik Ten Hag has failed when compared to your manager? Who's a much better failure since joining gunner's.
As that's lacking is understanding fanbase and management, maybe dump. You can go see how much time they gave Arteta because he was trying to rebuild ( While rebuilding, players like Per Emerick Aubameyang and Co's had to also fight the manager but they had to leave because they don't support the long-term plans of the club and coach )

But when you see Erik Ten Hag tryna go strict on a player, y'all come on here to say shii with making proper checks. So many things I want to school you but, I'll pass.
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Conte will join Napoli or Juventus, he prefer to train Italian teams than moving abroad.

Has Conte made a statement about that? If he has then it is understandable considering his career. Otherwise we never know. Because Conte managed two English teams as well other than Italian teams in his career so far.  Smiley
Antonio Conte is quite an experienced coach and he has had various great achievements during his career as coach in several European team, according to rumors circulating, he is being linked with Juventus and also Napoli but I not sure about this.
But from other reports, Antonio Conte seems much more interested in leading Chelsea and this news has been circulating lot in recent days.
It just that who knows who will get his services, whether Antonio Conte will go to Serie A or the Premier League and what is clear is that he has previously participated in these two competitions.

But this will be interesting because if Antonio Conte can be with Chelsea and other rumors Tuchel with Manchester United, there will be an opportunity for the two English giants to rise and develop well.
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